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Sequel should be day and date on PC minimum. The original would have sold probably double-triple on all platforms.

Day and date on PC with the sequel after this.

PlayStation has gotten stale

pc day 1 for max sales.

ps is boring now

People agreeing are delusional. I can get great games on steam for $10 and less

This is too expensive. No casual is going to spend $60 on this.

@GirlVersusGame Astro Bot and Returnal would have sold 2-3x more if that was actually true. This is just idealism.

@Neither_scene FF16 had mediocre sales though. What kept you engaged isn’t what’s keeping the masses engaged

The majority of PlayStation players play live service,shooters and sports games.

Consoles sales only go so far.

@thefourfoldroot1 making “great games” means nothing if 90% of the base is skipping said games.

The wait for these games to go on pc feels like nothing unless you're super hardcore into a game.

don't know anyone with it

Japanese only buy specific game, and even then most of them actually sell more on the west.

@AdamNovice Less people are buying PS5's also. Casuals aren't dying to paying $500 for a 5 year old console at this point, the hype is basically over, and most of the hardcore audience already have it.

This game needs to be killed off and a sequel made at this point

@GamingFan4Lyf Millions of people in their 40's will buy this game

Cod sells more consoles than any of the recent PlayStation exclusives

there's no major competition to get to the top of the charts.

@LogicStrikesAgain that doesn't mean anything for long term sales and there's nothing else to pre order besides madden and doom(another w for gamepass) lol

@Max_the_German nobody is even talking about PlayStation exclusives anymore. All I see being discussed is multiplats and indie games nowadays.

Yotei will sell significantly less than the original ghosts too

Only the first game is mid. I wanted gears 2 and 3,this does nothing for Xbox or PC players

PlayStation players can subsidize gamepass players. Works fine with me,already got my money’s worth of gamepass with ninja gaiden 2 black and these bangers this month

"great games sell"

if gamepass keeps getting games like this past few months, I'm 100% fine with this arrangement.

This DLC was mediocre

console gamers are just paypigs at this point.

This was rushed out by Bandai just like Sparking Zero.

@Mikey856 Well PS5 is almost 5 years old so that's moot. Its 5 years of PS3 vs 5 years of PS5 now, the launch doesn't matter at this point.

Also PS3 didn't have the benefit of cross gen games like PS5 got, sony was still releasing actual PS2 exclusives like god of war 2

@Mikey856 PS3 already picked up in the same timeframe...games like infamous uncharted 2 killzone littlebigplanet MGS4 were out and God of war 3 was about to release.

PS3 gave you more as an actual console than a PS5 because of the blu ray player and PSN being free also

Most Japanese games don't put up big numbers. Most of those "creative games" people talk about sold like a couple million tops.

@UltimateOtaku91 it's really just former Xbox players buying it. Ever since the PS4/XB1 generation that's basically what has happened, Sony slowing gaining what they lost to the 360 from the PS2 userbase. Not actually expanding beyond that.

I guarantee the majority of these people had at least 1 PlayStation before, probably a PS1 or PS2. The console space hasn't actually really grown for PlayStation. PS5 has to sell 160 million to say that.

Plenty of good single player games failed. We just saw that with Prince of Persia. Delusional statement.

3.5 million in a year and a half for an AAA game would've been good in the 360/PS3 era. That's actually below average nowadays.

Square wanted a phenomenon like what happened to God of War.

@Darude84 I don’t mean an actual ad,more like a blurb from Sony to tell us why it’s worth $199

“It has removable joysticks!”

@Darude84 "most others" lol If it's as small as you claim, why was the replacement sticks on the dualsense edge one of the most advertised features of the controller?

Almost like Sony know it happens and wants us to keep buying new controllers..

@Darude84 PS5 controllers with drift isn't even remotely rare. Every enthusiast circle has tons of people with it, Ebay is filled with tons of used controllers with it being sold. There are whole services dedicated to repairing them on Ebay also.

My PS1 and PS2 controllers never developed drift after 2 decades handled about 5x worse.

$84.99 and still a high chance to get stick drift.

@Northern_munkey I like how you say that as if many PlayStation fans don't cope trying to justify their purchase/platform themselves lol

That Rise of the Ronin PC comments was exactly that. Game didn't even run well on PS5, but because the PC version had issues that's somehow a victory. Even though the game is sub 1080p and cant hold 60fps on PS5.

@Legacy2K Metaphor couldn’t even maintain 60fps on PS5. People are under an illusion thinking a lot of these games are running well on PS5 when they aren’t

It’s their way of coping I guess. PS5 has multiple games that drop to 720p resolution.

@Waa-Laa except gears was never a pure single player game and multiplayer existed since day 1 in the franchise

@Jacko11 that makes zero sense considering mcc had multiplayer. Why would we not expect it?

@breakneck The multiplayer literally was the longevity for these games. The campaign wasn’t the reason it was one of the most played games on live.

There’s no demand anymore. all the hardcore bought it and casuals don’t care and can’t afford it anyway most likely.

Guess PC helped sales after all. Also PS5 pro sales will fall off a cliff, all the hardcore already bought it pretty much and casuals don’t even know it exists.

@RoomWithaMoose People have been waiting for a good overwatch alternative for years. Same for all these other games big live service games like Destiny Fortnite etc. Concord was mid and not up to quality which is why it failed. Just remembered Zenless which was also successful last year.

Also I don’t buy Sony quitting live service, when the most successful game they’ve released this entire generation was a live service game. They look on the charts and see that is what everyone is playing. They might scale back and not over invest but I think they’ll definitely keep making some.

People on this very site say Sony should make more AA regularly…They want Sony to make the games THEY like specifically and not what’s actually successful.

which is fine, but people cherry pick things to justify their opinion and sweep other things under the rug.

@RoomWithaMoose what about helldivers,first descendant,palworld,etc?

Also it’s funny how when a single player game doesn’t sell well it’s brushed under the rug and nobody sales they should stop making them

@oc1d marvel avengers failed.

Push square audience doesn’t represent the masses. most PlayStation players only play AAA sports games and free to play

And most of them are just playing free to play games, sports games and CoD.

How many copies will it sell