@naruball "R.I.P., reading comprehension. My argument wasn't about bugs, but a game not working on your platform and you needing to figure out why. It's one thing to encounter a bug, another to get a black screen and not be able to play a game at all."
I read it perfectly fine. What's ironic is if you actually ready my comment I addressed this already. RIP reading comprehension and hell RIP logic since bugs and a game not working are one in the same.
"You do understand the concept of an example, right?"
You do understand the concept of a lot of people finding problems regardless of what platform you are on yes?
"Again. Bugs =/= black screen"
Again skyrim is an old game and to make matters worse a bethesda game.
"Yes, many if not most work right out of the gate. But when you launch a game on PC, you don't know if it will work on your setup. It may or may not."
I've had zero issues with games not launching. Same with my friends, and same with the people who report issues, all report bugs that happen are after the game has started.
Even if lets say a game doesn't start. You have 2 weeks and 2 hours of playtime limit to issue a refund. That is something sony doesn't offer. There's no buyer safety on console. You always have to wrestle with them to prove a game doesn't work. And that's assuming you bought it digitally. Steam is no questions asked. So if those games you claim exist in this day and age. There's no worry when you could just simply refund it. PC is easy now.
@PCGamerInDisguise Dudes here are somehow convinced that a low profile game like sackboy is such a huge reason for sony to turn away from pc gaming lol
@naruball When millions of people play a game on pc there's going to be a lot of bigger chances of finiding bugs and issues. You think the same isn't apparent on console?
What's funny is that video you sent has only 5k views and 16 likes compared to how many people actually play the game.
Skyrim is old. There's 3 versions on pc and has had issues since the ps3/360 days just like ANY bethesda game lol. You can even swap back to older versions if you're having problems.
I'll dismiss any game you want. There are games that come out with problems on pc. But what people are pointing out is a great deal of them launch and work right out the gate. Especially modern games.
I do value my opinion. What people don't value is someone who lacks any valid opinion on anything, using tired old arguments, and not wanting people to play "their precious exclusives" on pc. Hence why someone told you to grow up.
@naruball I've had like one game that has had no sound and it was fixed with a free upgrade to a remaster. The sound card part which I'm not letting go is hilarious and an insta fail for you.
PC gaming has become A LOT easier to work with. I have friends with almost zero knowledge doing just fine.
Nah this is false. If it wasn't for yakuza 0 and word of mouth from that from youtubers and reviewers being introduced to the series. It would not have gotten so big.
This game does not look good in the slightest. I actually prefer gotham knights story attempt than more suicide garbage. Too bad that game is a single player game with no clear vision.
@MrXinaThong Yeah and demon souls, re1 remake, and crash bandicoot say hello to you too. It is hard to mess up still. The fact that those companies did should say something to you.
Well they're not off to a great start. Instead of the trilogy for people on pc who never played uncharted, they stuck them on the last one with zero context of the originals.
Also it would be great if they started releasing their games day one for ps5/pc.
I was worried since goober team is doing it. But it's really hard to mess up something that has been laid out for you. The over the shoulder camera is a really cool idea. I just hope after this, mgs can come back with some remakes as well
@KidBoruto I don't fully agree with re1 re-remake not that I'm against it. But re0 could def use one. Really the main issue with that game is no box. And they should make billy and rebeccas stories seperate more like re2 where they still meet up but are never together at all times.
@PepperMintRex It is when the only thing you play is 60-120 fps. 60 should be the standard end of story. 40 gets a pass because just those 10 frames alone is better than 30. But not many people have those types of tv's in their homes.
I have a 120hz tv but I'll still be passing on this. Sometimes I prefer the 60 fps mode. and I also will be not buying ANY game that ships without it. Lots of lazy or incomptent devs showing this month.
Hopefully code veronica is next. It's the worst of the re games in terms of mainline entries. Definitley needs a remake. But I'm super excited for re4 and how they'll incorporate features from everything they learned from re8/re2.
@ShogunRok The old games play fine. It's just turn based gameply. We're not talking about some old action game that has major issues. One of the main issues with the older titles is how incredibly slow they are with their turn based gameplay. This has been addressed with the turbo mode. Which makes turn based gameplay way more smoother experience.
I disagree again. It's like skipping the first few one piece episodes and going to watch the current wanno arc. Without much context you won't understand many things and yes you do have to put in the time just like with anything else. Estelle and joshua appearing in future games won't have the same impact nor will you know their hardships. Reading or watching it isn't going to help either because you won't see how the characters delevelop.
This part bugs me "The simple reality is that not everyone has the time or the patience to go all the way back to the start and play everything in order." But those same people will put 100+ hours into other games anyways so what's the difference? I think the real reason is not a matter of time, but people want to play the shiny new thing, or what's currently relevant/popular. I garuntee you if the sky evo games came out tomorrow for ps4/switch/pc we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I started with cold steel. I'm one of those people that did what you just said and ended up regretting it. The moment I got to cold steel 3 and it started spoiling other games I immediately stopped. Then I found out could steel 1 and 2 spoil the crossbell games. So moments from azure were ruined for me already. I went back to the sky games and then crossbell games and vowed to not go back to cold steel until I finished them. And ended up loving the sky games more actually. I would never recommend skipping games for that reason.
@ShogunRok I strongly disagree. The sky series is meant to build the world. And the 3rd has MANY important plot points for future games. Not to mention cold steel 4 is their mcu endgame where everything comes together, and the further you go the more you'll spoil the last game. Cold steel spoils the crossbell games and even the sky games. It won't have the same impact if you skip games.
I'd like to also point out demon slayer came out at 30 fps across the board. But the developer promised 60 fps down the line and they gave it to us. Her with all this nonsense when they made a game that runs on pc with a variety of different hardware that will fluctuate different framerate just shows you how full of crap she is. To me this screams red flags as I remember cyberpunk having similar issues. They don't even say "Hey 60 fps will come later" Just straight up 30fps mode. Take it or leave it.
I'm confused. PS4 versions are known to be used for japanese games like this because many more people own ps4's over ps5's over in japan. Also the series x/s sell pretty well in japan so there's that. And these are psp/vita games not modern game, it's fair to assume all of these will work the same as p4g on pc. I don't see the issue here. Unless this is like what falcom did to screw over people on zero that's a different story.
Still waiting on sony to allow people to buy the deluxe costumes trapped in the expensive ass deluxe edition as a deluxe upgrade. Players shouldn't be punished for buying standard versions physical or digital.
@NeThZOR Sony trying to be slick. Even remasted shouldn't cost that much. When miles was 50-60 bucks it came with remastered so the price made sense. But miles is more of a 20-30 dollar game.
@Sqush-Pare Well for me this type of stuff leads my ps5 in becoming a paper weight. So some of them could have just invested on PC if this was going to be a thing but they wasted their money on a ps5.
@MacRider Yeah you may be right. The ones that still censsor things are mostly the "ethics department" at square that localize games. But sony has been chill with that as far as I know.
@CWill97 We don't even have an avatar or demo section on the ps5 store. A demo section was on the switch day one and steam advertises demos all the time. Ps4 store may have had it's laggy issues but it was way more feature complete. Sometimes I turn on my ps4 just to look at my themes.
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Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Has Proven Very Unpopular on PC
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Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Has Proven Very Unpopular on PC
@naruball
"R.I.P., reading comprehension. My argument wasn't about bugs, but a game not working on your platform and you needing to figure out why. It's one thing to encounter a bug, another to get a black screen and not be able to play a game at all."
I read it perfectly fine. What's ironic is if you actually ready my comment I addressed this already. RIP reading comprehension and hell RIP logic since bugs and a game not working are one in the same.
"You do understand the concept of an example, right?"
You do understand the concept of a lot of people finding problems regardless of what platform you are on yes?
"Again. Bugs =/= black screen"
Again skyrim is an old game and to make matters worse a bethesda game.
"Yes, many if not most work right out of the gate. But when you launch a game on PC, you don't know if it will work on your setup. It may or may not."
I've had zero issues with games not launching. Same with my friends, and same with the people who report issues, all report bugs that happen are after the game has started.
Even if lets say a game doesn't start. You have 2 weeks and 2 hours of playtime limit to issue a refund. That is something sony doesn't offer. There's no buyer safety on console. You always have to wrestle with them to prove a game doesn't work. And that's assuming you bought it digitally. Steam is no questions asked. So if those games you claim exist in this day and age. There's no worry when you could just simply refund it. PC is easy now.
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Has Proven Very Unpopular on PC
@PCGamerInDisguise Dudes here are somehow convinced that a low profile game like sackboy is such a huge reason for sony to turn away from pc gaming lol
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Has Proven Very Unpopular on PC
@naruball When millions of people play a game on pc there's going to be a lot of bigger chances of finiding bugs and issues. You think the same isn't apparent on console?
What's funny is that video you sent has only 5k views and 16 likes compared to how many people actually play the game.
Skyrim is old. There's 3 versions on pc and has had issues since the ps3/360 days just like ANY bethesda game lol. You can even swap back to older versions if you're having problems.
I'll dismiss any game you want. There are games that come out with problems on pc. But what people are pointing out is a great deal of them launch and work right out the gate. Especially modern games.
I do value my opinion. What people don't value is someone who lacks any valid opinion on anything, using tired old arguments, and not wanting people to play "their precious exclusives" on pc. Hence why someone told you to grow up.
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Has Proven Very Unpopular on PC
@naruball Going based off this whole stream of comments. You couldn't win any even if you tried lol
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Has Proven Very Unpopular on PC
@Tecinthebrain Xbox is a direct competitor to sony. Steam/valve is not. That's the difference.
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Has Proven Very Unpopular on PC
@naruball I've had like one game that has had no sound and it was fixed with a free upgrade to a remaster. The sound card part which I'm not letting go is hilarious and an insta fail for you.
PC gaming has become A LOT easier to work with. I have friends with almost zero knowledge doing just fine.
Re: Ryu Ga Gotoku Director Credits Subscription Services for Yakuza's Popularity in the West
@ChrisDeku Everything you've said is correct. Ignore the normy.
Re: Ryu Ga Gotoku Director Credits Subscription Services for Yakuza's Popularity in the West
Nah this is false. If it wasn't for yakuza 0 and word of mouth from that from youtubers and reviewers being introduced to the series. It would not have gotten so big.
Re: The Witcher Remake Announced, Rebuilt in Unreal Engine 5
A deserving game getting a remake. I've wanted this since i played witcher 1 a long time ago. Game has a really good story.
Re: Rocksteady Co-Founders Depart, But Suicide Squad 'Nearly Finished'
This game does not look good in the slightest. I actually prefer gotham knights story attempt than more suicide garbage. Too bad that game is a single player game with no clear vision.
Re: Poll: Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
60 fps all the way. Any game without it is not being purchased. That's just how it is.
Re: Death Stranding 2 Hype at Fever Pitch as PlayStation Boss Jim Ryan Poses with Hideo Kojima
Would be down for a sequel with more creepy monsters. But personally I'd prefer if it never gets a sequel. Really loved the ending.
Re: Death Stranding 2 Hype at Fever Pitch as PlayStation Boss Jim Ryan Poses with Hideo Kojima
@Kingleo31 Absolutley the worst possible thing that can happen. Stop pushing this already.
Re: Highly Promising PS5, PS4 Horror The Callisto Protocol Is Ready for Release
Top 3 games this year hands down for me are Elden ring, Ragnarok, and pressumably Callisto. Can't wait for not dead space 4.
Re: New Tales From The Borderlands (PS5) - No Tale, Too Much Borderlands
So it's pretty much borderlands 3. Gearbox writting seems to be getting worse and worse.
Re: Persona 5 Royal Guide: Everything You Need to Know, Plus Tips and Tricks
@CWill97 I'm that guy with always one save file and never mess up. It's too easy not to.
Re: Hands On: Resident Evil 4 PS5 Makes a Masterpiece Even Better
Looking like my GOTY next year. Replaying all the mainline re games before this. Looks really good.
Re: Deadpool Is Demanding to Be in Marvel's Midnight Suns, in Typically Meta Fashion
That's actually pretty funny. I'm not conviced about this game after the card system was shown, but I'm keeping my eye on it.
Re: Gotham Knights (PS5) - It's Actually Pretty Good
@dskatter It is to me. Just because you don't have a problem with it doesn't mean other won't.
Re: Gotham Knights (PS5) - It's Actually Pretty Good
@Mitsui Even on more powerful pc hardware it drops frames. This game is not optimized well at all.
Re: Gotham Knights (PS5) - It's Actually Pretty Good
This review seems incredibly generous.
Re: Gallery: Silent Hill 2 Remake Shines in Official PS5 Screenshots
@MrXinaThong Yeah and demon souls, re1 remake, and crash bandicoot say hello to you too. It is hard to mess up still. The fact that those companies did should say something to you.
Re: PC Versions of Future Naughty Dog Games Always a Possibility
Well they're not off to a great start. Instead of the trilogy for people on pc who never played uncharted, they stuck them on the last one with zero context of the originals.
Also it would be great if they started releasing their games day one for ps5/pc.
Re: Gallery: Silent Hill 2 Remake Shines in Official PS5 Screenshots
I was worried since goober team is doing it. But it's really hard to mess up something that has been laid out for you. The over the shoulder camera is a really cool idea. I just hope after this, mgs can come back with some remakes as well
Re: Resident Evil 4's PS5, PS4 Remake Headlines RE Showcase Just One Day After Silent Hill Stream
@KidBoruto I don't fully agree with re1 re-remake not that I'm against it. But re0 could def use one. Really the main issue with that game is no box. And they should make billy and rebeccas stories seperate more like re2 where they still meet up but are never together at all times.
Re: Resident Evil 4's PS5, PS4 Remake Headlines RE Showcase Just One Day After Silent Hill Stream
@Uncharted2007 That's fine. I don't care if you like it or if you're buying it or not. My point was it has more purpose than the last of us remake.
Re: A Plague Tale: Requiem Caps Out at Just 30fps on PS5, 40fps on 120hz TVs
@PepperMintRex It is when the only thing you play is 60-120 fps. 60 should be the standard end of story. 40 gets a pass because just those 10 frames alone is better than 30. But not many people have those types of tv's in their homes.
Re: A Plague Tale: Requiem Caps Out at Just 30fps on PS5, 40fps on 120hz TVs
I have a 120hz tv but I'll still be passing on this. Sometimes I prefer the 60 fps mode. and I also will be not buying ANY game that ships without it. Lots of lazy or incomptent devs showing this month.
Re: Resident Evil 4's PS5, PS4 Remake Headlines RE Showcase Just One Day After Silent Hill Stream
Hopefully code veronica is next. It's the worst of the re games in terms of mainline entries. Definitley needs a remake. But I'm super excited for re4 and how they'll incorporate features from everything they learned from re8/re2.
Re: Resident Evil 4's PS5, PS4 Remake Headlines RE Showcase Just One Day After Silent Hill Stream
@Uncharted2007 Uh no? Re4 is MUCH older than last of us and they are changing things. It'ss not 1:1 like last of us. Need to do some research.
Re: Mini Review: Persona 5 Royal (PS5) - Still One of the Best JRPGs Ever Made, Despite PS4 Disrespect
I'll be picking this up on pc instead. No point in buying the literal same game on a platform I already own it on with zero differences.
Re: Trails to Azure Arrests March 2023 Release Date on PS4
@ShogunRok The old games play fine. It's just turn based gameply. We're not talking about some old action game that has major issues. One of the main issues with the older titles is how incredibly slow they are with their turn based gameplay. This has been addressed with the turbo mode. Which makes turn based gameplay way more smoother experience.
I disagree again. It's like skipping the first few one piece episodes and going to watch the current wanno arc. Without much context you won't understand many things and yes you do have to put in the time just like with anything else. Estelle and joshua appearing in future games won't have the same impact nor will you know their hardships. Reading or watching it isn't going to help either because you won't see how the characters delevelop.
This part bugs me "The simple reality is that not everyone has the time or the patience to go all the way back to the start and play everything in order." But those same people will put 100+ hours into other games anyways so what's the difference? I think the real reason is not a matter of time, but people want to play the shiny new thing, or what's currently relevant/popular. I garuntee you if the sky evo games came out tomorrow for ps4/switch/pc we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I started with cold steel. I'm one of those people that did what you just said and ended up regretting it. The moment I got to cold steel 3 and it started spoiling other games I immediately stopped. Then I found out could steel 1 and 2 spoil the crossbell games. So moments from azure were ruined for me already. I went back to the sky games and then crossbell games and vowed to not go back to cold steel until I finished them. And ended up loving the sky games more actually. I would never recommend skipping games for that reason.
Re: Trails to Azure Arrests March 2023 Release Date on PS4
@ShogunRok I strongly disagree. The sky series is meant to build the world. And the 3rd has MANY important plot points for future games. Not to mention cold steel 4 is their mcu endgame where everything comes together, and the further you go the more you'll spoil the last game. Cold steel spoils the crossbell games and even the sky games. It won't have the same impact if you skip games.
Re: Trails to Azure Arrests March 2023 Release Date on PS4
After neglecting the ps4 version because falcom and their backwards ways this'll be a hard pass on ps. Excited for the switch/pc version.
Re: Random: Forget Need for Speed Unbound, This GT7 Livery Goes Full Auto Modellista
Might be doable in nfs unbound if they allow livery downloads like in 2016.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 20
@NoCode23 There were a lot of trick questions on this one.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for October 2022?
Premium has become what I expected. Something sony used for a brief hype only to completley neglect it worse than nintendo does their old games.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for October 2022?
@Sqush-Pare I did and I mostly main my ps. So nice try.
Re: Despite Scrapping PS4, Gotham Knights Is Just 30fps on PS5
I'd like to also point out demon slayer came out at 30 fps across the board. But the developer promised 60 fps down the line and they gave it to us. Her with all this nonsense when they made a game that runs on pc with a variety of different hardware that will fluctuate different framerate just shows you how full of crap she is. To me this screams red flags as I remember cyberpunk having similar issues. They don't even say "Hey 60 fps will come later" Just straight up 30fps mode. Take it or leave it.
Re: Despite Scrapping PS4, Gotham Knights Is Just 30fps on PS5
That lady is full of *****. There's no challenge here. Just plain lazyness or incomptence. I'm going with the latter.
Re: Despite Scrapping PS4, Gotham Knights Is Just 30fps on PS5
@Kairu Maybe because 60 fps helps games like this play better and people being used to 60 on current gen systems makes this into a big deal.
Re: Persona Fans on PlayStation Get Sold Short Again as Xbox Deal Reveals Native Ports
I'm confused. PS4 versions are known to be used for japanese games like this because many more people own ps4's over ps5's over in japan. Also the series x/s sell pretty well in japan so there's that. And these are psp/vita games not modern game, it's fair to assume all of these will work the same as p4g on pc. I don't see the issue here. Unless this is like what falcom did to screw over people on zero that's a different story.
The real issue to me is no physical release.
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure Puts Nathan Drake, Chloe Frazer in Uncharted Territory
Still waiting on sony to allow people to buy the deluxe costumes trapped in the expensive ass deluxe edition as a deluxe upgrade. Players shouldn't be punished for buying standard versions physical or digital.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales Crawls onto PC in November
@NeThZOR Sony trying to be slick. Even remasted shouldn't cost that much. When miles was 50-60 bucks it came with remastered so the price made sense. But miles is more of a 20-30 dollar game.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales Crawls onto PC in November
@Sqush-Pare Well for me this type of stuff leads my ps5 in becoming a paper weight. So some of them could have just invested on PC if this was going to be a thing but they wasted their money on a ps5.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales Crawls onto PC in November
Eh, I really want returnal, bloodborne, tsushima, last of us, demon souls, or gravirty rush over this. This ones kinda mediocre.
Re: Elden Ring Update 1.07 Buffs Magic and Abilities, Rebalances PvP Damage, More
"Time for a sorcery build" More like Time for for super easy mode, since spell casting broke the balance of this game.
Re: Action RPG Samurai Maiden Goes Full Anime, Busting Out the Body Pillows on PS5, PS4
@MacRider Yeah you may be right. The ones that still censsor things are mostly the "ethics department" at square that localize games. But sony has been chill with that as far as I know.
Re: Random: Iconic PS1 Startup Sequence Is Even More Glorious on a 35-Foot TV
@CWill97 We don't even have an avatar or demo section on the ps5 store. A demo section was on the switch day one and steam advertises demos all the time. Ps4 store may have had it's laggy issues but it was way more feature complete. Sometimes I turn on my ps4 just to look at my themes.