@BusyOlf @Balaam_ both your points are true. Never liked the design of it. A console that needs a stand or legs to sit flat seems odd. But i have gotten blasted on here many times for saying this. But my only gripe with the PS5 is the size and layout choices of the controller. Sure the Dual sense is good with features and i know controller size is subjective. But man Dual sense really hurts my left thumb. Some of that i think is the tighter tenison Sony uses on their sticks compared to Xbox and others. But i really like the PS5 and wish i could play it for more than a hour at a time. But the controller just has me back to Xbox within 60 mins. I hope PS6 makes a basic design consoles and they get the Dual Sense 2 a little smaller. 10-15% and loosen up those sticks a little bit and i would game on it a lot more.
I will give them a listen. I am an audio fanatic so if i like the sound i will get them even tho i don’t really need them. Nice addition to the PS family tho. I like that they work on PC and Mac as well.
This is just a Returnal reskin. So i am not getting it. But i hope it finds a little better audience than Returnal did. Pass for me. But i am sure this kept the game in budget. Which is good.
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare i mean i for sure agree with you. Not sure who or how many will use this low power mode. But i suppose we will see what they do with it once it get’s rolled out and more people have it. I am excited to see more plans in the future about the PS6 and handheld. As for the PS5 Pro, man that thing needs a few wins here soon before i call it a bust and i wanted to love that machine when it was announced. I was all for it. But it just get’s hard to see so much wasted potential.
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare whats their other option? Send it to dev’s that likely won’t have a ton of time to do much with it? Tho i am sure they will do that and internally Sony will test it. But i am sure they will look for ways yet to be announced maybe to get some player results from it. Series S is already got 1000’s of games ready to port to handheld. Sony will need titles optimized and running for a launched handheld. All data is needed cause it almost feels like Sony is backing into this plan for next gen more than on top of it and ahead of the curve. I could be wrong. But selling a “pro” console that runs not a few games but multiple games worse than the base model tells me they are shifting into a area they are a little behind in and want to improve quicker rather than later. The PS5 Pro is a botched or successful GTA 6 away from being a console that is on the fence of make or bust.so i welcome all the attempts of research where and how they can get it. But at these price points it seems rough. I can’t with a straight face recommend anyone to use a Pro or this low power mode. But i think Sony will attempt a way to get the info. Again this isn’t to save you $2.39 on your monthly electric bill.
Then it’s been now said they are using this for first party titles. Well DUH!! Those are the titles they want to test internally for the handheld. Again that they have no optimization for unlike MS with the Series S.
Reading the comments tell’s me some haven’t learned anything from the PS5 Pro. Sony is BETA testing it’s next gen plans at the tail end of this gen.
PS5 Pro is full on testing for PS6 AI upscaling (PSSR) Hence the console has such erratic behaviors on games. Cause it’s not fully baked. PSSR is already onto its next update.
PS5 power mode is to get games running for the handheld next gen cause Sony don’t have a Series S, yes the Series S that get’s made fun of. MS has a ton of work already done to put them games on a handheld. Sony is bringing this out to test for their handheld next gen. All of it is smart to a degree even tho it’s over priced. But it will help them going forward. But this isn’t to cut your system into a savings on your electric bill.
@OldGamer999 On pure they show the BL4 running on Series X it’s 60fps on Performance mode and 30fps on Quality mode. This is way the next gen consoles will be day 1 buys for me. The CPU in the consoles is already aged out on a lot of games. Sure some of it is optimization. But even with that the limits on that CPU are showing. I want to play BL4 but i am more excited for next months Battlefield 6 so i might just hold off. I am still playing Gears of War Reloaded online. I will be watching the PS5 Pro review for BL4 tho. Like to see if it runs good or not. That console is so up and down it’s hard to know.
@get2sammyb i agree, i think the add on disc drive is the smartest way forward. Sony has done a great job with this concept. I am 100% digital. But it’s nice to know if i wanted a disc drive i could still get one and just attach it in 3 mins or less. I think this is the way forward. Most gamers are digital. But there is still enjoy of a physical games market to warrant the add on.
The only take away i get from this is when the PC has a bad optimized game lots of people blame the platform. But when consoles have a game running poorly it’s the devs. PC has 1000’s upon 1000’s of games that run great but when a bad one does hit the platform takes the hit and not the devs. I don’t even have a PC. This is just a general thing i see in the gamer circles. As for PS5 Pro it was clearly a testing ground for PS6 and to me it’s not a good console nor bad. It’s just a very inconsistent console and one that i will not be supporting. I’ll just wait for PS6 and the next Xbox.
Steam and Xbox for sure have way better stores than PS. Plus a better Digital return policy on a game. So i am happy to see Sony at least say they are working on improving it. Even if that means for PS6 and not PS5. Time will tell on that. But Digital is where 8 out of 10 people buy games and outside of a server cost, that is the most profitable way to sell games. So take some of that and make a big slash on the store, only seems right.
@mvhess to your point and it’s a good one. That is why i started to second guess building a PC. I work from home and i sit at my desk all day, do i really want to sit there again to game? I don’t know and i don’t have another space i could use for just the gaming PC. So i too like to play Xbox and PS on my couch. I did get the Switch 2 and i play that 60% of the time on the Tv and the other in handheld. I don’t see Sony not making great content for PS. No reason not too, player still enjoy those games. I do, i buy a PS just for God of War and a few others. I play a lot of 3rd party on Xbox cause i like the controller layout more. Nothing else. Just the controller layout. I am faster and more accurate with off set sticks vs in line sticks. Otherwise i like the consoles the same. I also have been using Apple products for the last 14 years. I only use windows for work. So i am not sure how PC savvy i am to do certain tasks necessary on a gaming PC. Would i like that experience? Just not sure. But you make a great point about not wanting to sit at that desk any longer after 8 hours HAHA
@mvhess i don’t completely disagree with what you are saying. Surely games on GP aren’t going to sell. When they have 30 plus million subs. But GTA 6 on Xbox will sell well, RDR 2 and others still put up enough numbers to be worth it. Switch not so much and PS is the heavy lifter for sure. But 500K x let’s say $50 a title is some nice porting money. I mean that’s nearly free money. Hence most of their games are on it. But if exclusives are all you buy into consoles, it’s looking like you either need to go switch or just go PC. Unless you are good with timed exclusives, Sony has those now. Whatever makes you happy, i have all 3 consoles. I like them all for different reasons. But PC has been on my mind for a year i just haven’t pulled that trigger yet.
@mvhess seems like you have a bone to pick with Sony not me buddy! But it’s not the console wars no more it’s platform wars. Sony wants in on that MAU money. They already have their games on PC and make good money, port them to Xbox and even if it sells 1-2 million copies out of the 35 million Xbox owners. That is a nice free of mostly profit for Sony. Nothing seems dumb about that to me.
@Vaako007 pc isn’t a direct competitor to consoles. Families and young boys still want PlayStations. Families can get a console for a good price which provides a lot of value for the family. Contrast this to an entry level PC for gaming which most families wouldn’t consider.
Just food for thought, Capcom came out and said PC sales out grossed all consoles sales combined. So while I’ll let you decide if that is competition or not, it’s clearly money not going in to the consoles hands, which is a lot of money.
Secondly i am dating a girl right now that has a 9 year old boy. He has a Xbox and is a HUGE Fortnite players. He makes me and his mom watch him play, it’s cute and he’s actually really good. All he talks to me about is he wants a gaming PC for Christmas so he can play at 240fps and he has friends in school with a PC. So while i agree consoles are still great value and sell well. PC is growing on all age levels and it’s growing at an insanely fast rate. Just someting to think about. Not trying to say what you said is wrong, just sharing some stuff i see in my day to day life. 😀
@get2sammyb further more i would just like to add that i think Sony is making smart business decisions, investing into Unreal and Bandi and others. Being on PC and now likely Nintendo, Xbox and Mobile. Thinking outside the closed box ecosystem. Sure it upsets some of the closed minded console players. But i think long term Sony will be able to invest in bigger games and budgets. Maintain prices on hardware cost to the player, and please shareholders. So i am all for it. Phil Spencer said the industry was going to look different, and correct me if i am wrong, but i seen people on here mock him and say shut up Phil, run your own company, you don’t know nothing blah blah blah, I’d like to say we are starting to see more of that change Phil spoke too. Slowly but surely the console business is changing and i am proud to see Sony adopt new models of money and games being on PC and other platforms.
@get2sammyb People think that the 90’s and 2000’s business model is the only way to be successful and the only way Sony should do business. Puff the chest of console sales and while console sales matter and can make decent money, it’s not the type of money it once was. However if i asked this player base 6 months ago if they thought PS 1st party games would come to Xbox and Nintendo, the answer would have been 94% no. If i asked the same player base if micro transactions that everyone hates so much would be the highest profit maker for Sony they would be around 50% no. But we are seeing Sony step slowly away from this older closed box business model and if you haven’t been paying attention on here and YouTube, it’s got a lot of PS players in distress. The Sooner Sony rips the band-aid off like MS did and goes full 3rd party and continues to invest outside of just console sales the better for the player base so i don’t have to filter past 74 excuse and goal post moving comments. It will be out in the open and we can all get back to enjoying games and let the suit and ties make their profit margins in any way they seem fit. I am just here to remind people it won’t be solely based on the fact that Sony sells good hardware numbers. That model is largely dead in today’s gaming unless your name is NINTENDO.
Some people really have to learn the hard way. At this point Sony needs to rip the band aid off so the cat is out of the bag and everyone can get back to their normal arguing points!
They look awful. I will keep the ones i use now. I don’t want the PS Plus logo. It’s not a good logo to begin with. Dang it and i was excited for these too. 3/10
Gears, Metal Gear and Borderlands 4 for me. Likely I’ll get BL4 and Gears of War on Series X and Metal Gear on PS5. It’s a stack 3-4 months for some high quality games. Looking forward to it.
I’m excited for this game. Thinking i will buy it for Switch 2. Be fun to have on the go. Hope it does well as Sega has a big list of other titles coming. Hope they all turn out really good.
@Frmknst How can people be excited about deathmatch multiplayer Literally every round "spawn, dead, spawn, kill, dead, spawn"
Sharping your skills and tactics so it looks like Spawn, Kill, kill, kill, dead, Spawn Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill dead Spawn. These are my most played games as battle royal is to slow, i want the fast pace skill based twitch shooters. Everyone is different tho and so i am excited to see more modes added for those that want to play them.
@Banjo- you know i keep the receipts on here Pure. That’s why so many take shots at me and call me names and this and that. I don’t see many on here saying you know what, you were right, Phil did say the industry was going to change and thats ok cause they know they are wrong and they also know exclusives as we once knew them are now just a Nintendo thing. I’ll give it some more time but you and i know when i pull out older receipts all they do is name call and move the goal post. They ain’t going to say i was right and so was Phil or anyone else. They sure as H E double hockey sticks aren’t going to say they were wrong. HAHA
@LogicStrikesAgain they are just looking for profit and they will make some with this move. But yes the 30% cut and micro transactions is the real money. I got my popcorn already made. This will be a lot of goal post moving over the next few days, weeks and months. YouTube is about to be SPICY.
@get2sammyb remember when Phil Spencer said the market will change and look different for many companies, while we at MS are just ahead of the curve. This site and the post read stay out of Sony’s Business Phil, you don’t know what you are talking about etc etc. i bet no one remembers that. I do. There is to much money needed to be made on expensive games not to have games on as many platforms as soon as possible. When i said do we really think we will see MS rake in cash and Sony sit back and please a few million hardcore fans? Thats not how business’s grow. They don’t care what we think, cause we will still buy a PS or Xbox and for all the people saying they will go to PC. That still make money for MS and Sony. Time will tell but i think this will be a huge boost to software sales if they do it. Xbox players buy more games than the average person on a website hating their fan base thinks. You really think the Last of us or God of War wouldn’t sell 3 million copies to the 35 million Xbox fan base?
I am excited for this. Watched a lot of the gameplay and think the series is back on track for me to enjoy. Looking forward to it. Glad it didn’t have any setbacks.
Correct highly underutilized would be the correct term. I have never loved the feel of a PS controller in hand. I use them cause i like to play on PS consoles. But if they made the Dual Sense 2 a tad smaller, I think i could actually like that one. Time will tell, PS6 should have a slightly changed design as that has always been a theme for new PS consoles.
@Oram77 Astro Bot used the whole controller really well. But 99% of the games on the market don’t use the touch pad. It’s just a giant button. I am simply not sold it’s important enough for the size it takes up. If they made it smaller i would be good with that.
@PushButtons The TouchPad is the most useless feature in gaming history, it takes up a ¼ of the controller and is not utilized for anything worth mentioning
I’ve been saying this for a long time. It makes the controller bigger for no good reason. My left thumb takes a beating with this design. I’d like to see the Dual Sense 2 get a touch smaller.
@Rich33 for PS6 and PS6 Pro: yes i agree give us the expensive pro at launch and to your point feels better on the wallet knowing i get the extra juice all generation long. I expect PS6 to be a nice upgrade over PS5 as it has been rumored to feature a Ryzen 6 vs the 2 in the PS5. Also it will have FSR 4 right off the bat. So AI will be doing some heavy lifting. Overall the PS6 will be what we expect and i don’t see anything wrong with that. I just hope the controller is more comfortable for me than the Dual Sense and it could end up being my main platform, something a PS hasn’t been since PS2.
Xbox: this is again the wild card console. It will be different than generations past. I read where devs like the idea of it being a certain power spec as it gives them a baseline to code for on PC. However it will still be a console in the sense of the operating system and Ui and i think that should help some with optimization. Windows light is the big wild card. If done poorly then the whole thing could suffer out the gate. If done well or even great, this will be huge as MS will not miss any games as they are all being made for those specs for a pc anyway. I expect the next Xbox to be expensive, as MS is done taking a loss on hardware and really so is Sony. However MS has delayed its handheld but said it is still coming and chips are in production talks for it. I believe this will be their Nintendo switch, dockable/ portable and sold for a more mass market price. The big tower will be the expensive enthusiast model. With MS selling their games everywhere, they don’t need 100 million units sold to make money. We are selling how much they are making now with the ABK deal and they trail far behind in console sales. I like a lot about the idea of it, or at least the little we do know about it. But again it comes down to crossing T’s and dotting I’s on it and thats something MS is 50/50 on as a company. When they go wrong they go way wrong and when they get some thing right it is normally very solid.
I am just excited to learn more and believe in 2026 the leaks will be pouring out for both consoles. The rumor is Asus will have a Xbox console coming in 2026 and the MS first party console in 2027. So we may get a big look at this sooner than we think if leaks are on point. 😀
@Rich33 agreed, I’ve been wishing for Xbox or PS to do this. Build a Pro that is way powerful and launches day and date with the more affordable base. Seeing as the PC rig i would build would be $5k easily without the monitor. I would gladly buy both the Xbox and PS6 at $1000 with power. Now go for a little ride with me on this. We know Xbox is going PC with a console Ui for its next gen. We also know that OEM’s are going to be building some Xbox’s with their specs and using the Xbox Os. So what if say Razer or Corsair or Alienware built a $1500 dollar monster Xbox? I would buy that. It would be my perfect machine, PC power with a console Ui and controller. Now the other thing i like about that is when you buy games there they aren’t locked to just that machine. Maybe in 5 years i change my mind and i want to build a PC, all those games i bought on Xbox or Steam or Epic come with me. As to where my PS titles are locked to a PS device. This is why i think they need to go this way with Xbox. All their fumbles has lead to this chance of being the open platform PC/Console in a box under your tv. This doesn’t mean i ain’t excited for PS6 as i am. But i know what it will be and that works. But this next Xbox will be interesting, but they have to make sure it all works well. Has to be a PC without the nonsense. Time will tell. But overall after being really happy with my Switch 2, i can’t stop playing it, i am excited for next gen. I think it’s going to be awesome. All 3 doing something different for sure means they all get my money again. 😊
@Rich33 Yeah i ain’t a windows fan and no the Xbox nor the PS6 will have the CPU/GPU combo we would want. So i guess we are stuck with console. Haha but i love console and am fine with it. Sure i would like to pay for more power and performance but not at the expense of fiddling with windows and drivers. I already got my Switch 2 and i will for sure get the next Xbox and PS6.
@Rich33 i never understood the people that defend broken games at launch. That game was not ready for launch. Period end of topic for me. Sure games can add things over time, thats fine. But not to launch at full price and it don’t work until a year later. To your point on the different in house engine Sony teams have. I agree, why don’t they do more with those? I assume it comes down to experience and training on those engines. But most of them if not all of them are really good. Very stable now as well. I still don’t see them bringing Spider-man to Xbox. Could they? Yes of course they could, but they have so much invested into their own IP’s , that i just don’t see it, but i would welcome it. To your point tho, it would hurt the brand in some cases. Take me for an example. l like PS, i always have. I’ve been playing them and buying them since the start, PS1. But i never loved their controllers. They were small, then i didn’t like their thumb sticks nor the placement of them. I prefer offset. So for me, i play more on Xbox and Switch cause i like the controller layout more. No other reason, if Sony had the controller i liked more i might not even buy an Xbox. So if I could play all the Sony games i wanted to play on Xbox or PC. I really wouldn’t need to get a PS6. I probably still would cause i am a console fanatic. But to your point. It wouldn’t be a must have. I buy them for their games only. I buy very little to no 3rd party titles there since the launch of 360. So it’s been a while. To your other point, i too like higher FPS. So PC would be a perfect fit for me, but i am a 17 year Mac user and don’t love windows nor do i know how to build and troubleshoot on that platform, so i have stayed away. Even tho you and i should both be on PC hahaha But you do have very very valid points.
@cburg Hey there my buddy. Man i missed hearing from you lately. I hope you have been well and having a great summer also. Mine has been going ok so far. Maybe a little too much work to fun ratio but sometimes you’ll have that. I am enjoying the new Switch 2 and looking forward to some bigger titles in the fall. I have my set of people on here that give me a hard time. But you and a few others have always been awesome and i always wish ya’ll the best!! 😊
@Rich33 to your point of do people buy a console for exclusives the answer is yes sometimes. But it’s a lower percentage of people than we make it out to be as the sales for those games are just good, not consistent chart toppers. But yes exclusives have a place and i do not think Sony will just stop that business approach all together. That is a big piece of their strategy. But in fairness we have seen PC releases get shorter and shorter over this generation. Will that continue, i am not sure. But Sony has made it clear they want MAU’s now. MS has more MAU’s with owning such big IP’s that have player bases that are huge. Hence Sony went all in on live service. Even tho so far that has looked to be a train wreck. They are still committed to that strategy. Plus if Cloud becomes the future tech and people aren’t buying console. Sony would be wise to grow their IP’s audience base. Cause the younger gamer don’t care about exclusives much, they care more about can i play my game on a console, then on a handheld or mobile device when i am away and pick up on a PC at a friends house. Being locked to one box for them isn’t as important or even convenient as it was for say kids growing up on the SNES like me. However Sony is wildly successful right now with the PS5 and the traditional console model. I don’t see them changing it to much to quickly but slowly and over time. MS has shifted it’s console business to be more like PC and be more open. I think both strategies are smart for where they are in the market. After all it’s Nintendo that is the one that can keep say Animal crossing to it’s own platform and sell 60 million copies at near full price. So we know they aren’t changing plans anytime soon. PlayStation is a powerful brand worldwide. I don’t see them losing massive player base over some older titles coming to PC and Xbox. My last point and i want your honest opinion. Take Bend Studios for an example. Day’s Gone wasn’t a massive success on PS4 and PS5, then Sony cancelled Days Gone 2, then they cancel other projects Bend studios were working on and laid off workers. It’s rumored Bend might return to being a naughty Dog support studio for a while. My question is would you be happy if Days Gone came to Xbox and sold maybe say 1-2 million copies and keep the studio afloat longer or would you rather Days Gone stay exclusive and the studio possibly shut down to the size of a support studio for good? Cause this extra money that other platforms bring in can be more sufficient than you might think depending on the studio. I know what my answer would be. Thanks so much for the friendly chat. I enjoy industry talks as long as they stay civil and educational and not bashing and name calling. So again i have appreciated your time and respect on the topic. 😊
@IOI Sorry but these articles are pathetic and show the hypocrisy of the author, if this is port begging then you have done the very same thing when Microsoft started to shift into being multiplatform…
You know when MS and Sony cross the street that the internet says MS was jay walking and Sony was just trying to get to where it was going. The internet is like wrestling there has to be a face and a heel for the storyline. But yes to your point, it’s 1000% correct. This site has drank to much of the PS is perfect cause they sell a lot of units kool-Aid. It used to be more non bias than lately in my opinion.
@Rich33 there is no legal way Sony can pick and choose which windows device runs a PC game. They can not go to PC, but if you listen to their investor meetings talks or even just read this article it states Sony is looking at ways to sell more games off its platform. They even Said PC prints money, so i do not see them doing that, it would sink their projects financially. As for the small install base. 35 million and growing is not small, it’s smaller than PS yes, but it’s not small. If Spider-Man sold 3 million copies at $50-$70 a piece you do the math on what that would put in their pockets. It’s a lot. Forza Horizon 5 just sold 3 million more copies on PS5 and that is great money for a game already made and easy to port seeing as both machines run AMD hardware. Easy money and while i don’t see Sony doing it yet they will for some titles, mostly live service as it only makes sense for those titles. PS5 and Xbox are a PC in a box now, they are just closed off PC’s. All Xbox next gen will be doing is taking off the closed portions and making a lite version of Windows being the driver of freedom. Which is what i want seeing as i don’t want to build a PC right now due to inflated GPU prices. So that box gives me the best of both worlds. Sony’s brand was largely built off 3rd party. Then they grew their first party and now fan’s think only exclusives sell the brand when the truth is those games don’t last on the top 10 sold for long. It’s all 3rd party tiles that sell PS’s and Xbox’s. Nintendo sells exclusives in high high numbers and those games sell for the whole life of the console. Not so much for PS and Xbox. The sales charts show that. So SM coming to other places won’t hurt the brand nearly like some will have it to be believed. However PC is growing and growing fast so console sales will remain flat or even decline in the future if this trend continues. They will have to go to PC and maybe even NIntendo and MS at some point. Now it don’t matter for me, i buy all 3 consoles. But for their bottom line they will find and follow the money. Many 3rd party companies have already said and shown they make more money on PC than they do all 3 consoles combined. Thats the trend that should scare us console players, not if games are on both Xbox and PS.
@Rich33 don’t listen to them, the PS fans said most of Xbox games were boring and rubbish and at one point MS games were 50% of the best selling top 10 on PS5. If Spider-Man comes to Xbox many players will get it. Not to mention it would line the studios pockets for Wolverine and other titles that will be exclusive for the PS platforms. It’s a win win really in my eyes.
@Northern_munkey Glad you are liking FH5. It’s a great game. I wish PS would have gotten FH4 also. It is right there with 5, some even like it more cause it’s in Europe. Exactly who cares if spider-man or any game goes to a platform as long as people buy it and enjoy it, thats the whole point. But then they wouldn’t be able to make fun of other players and companies as easily. They would have to have something else to come on here and talk mess about. That’s their real position they don’t want to lose. You know me and Gears of War. Gears, Red Dead and Diablo are my top 3 heavy hitters in the whole industry. I have around 2000 hours in Gears 5 PVP. So yeah that coming to PS5 is awesome. I can’t wait for others to play and hopfully come online and play as well. I am getting it for free on Series X, so i pre ordered Gears on PS5 to have it on both consoles. Yeah i am that hardcore or careless with my money, however you want to phrase it haha
@Oram77 as for you point of something selling well doesn’t mean it’s the best. Welcome to my world, I’ve been telling that to PS fans bragging of the console sales for decades and it normally falls on deaf ears, i am glad you agree. Something selling more isn’t a factor to me. Never was. The GameCube gave me more fun than most consoles i ever bought and it was really low in sales.
@Oram77 it’s not even worth my time to explain the quality of a Forza Horizon game, you either know or you don’t. It’s AAA greatness and the sales showed how much another fan base wanted it.
@Oram77 “Sure, but give us something that is equal in quality then you have a deal.”
Seeing as Forza Horizon 5 outsold Astro bot the 2024 game of year, I’d like to say that has already been done by the looks of it. The fact is extra money is needed more than ever and it’s not like Spider-man coming to Xbox is going to make anyone sell their PS5 and get another platform. PS5 will remain healthy even with a few big budget games being on multi platforms.
I don’t use any for my consoles for TV. I use an Apple TV on a LG Oled. It works perfect with all my other Apple devices. Tho i am sure there is nothing wrong with the PS5 as a media device for those that need or like it.
@Deljo i completely agree. I was so into the Xbox 360 and the PS3 games. Now i found myself struggling to get interested in the concept of the game, or the story, or gameplay. I couldn’t be payed to play soul’s like games nor battle royal shooters. So right there is a huge chunk of modern titles i don’t even give a dime too. I find myself still loving Nintendo games, cause of the gameplay loop they have. But i hope to see a nice bounce back of games i want to play soon.
@Deljo i agree with you, i own all 3 consoles and enjoy having them. But we are already at point of lots of gamers switching to PC. Which is a box that plays everything. The next XBox is going to be a box under the tv that plays everything. But going forward that might be the best way for games to make back development cost which is to be on all platforms. Sony themselves said they are chasing MAU’s now. As Microsoft has more of those than Sony at the moment. Another thing to consider is Sony is making more money from micro transactions than anything else. Paints a very different picture of where the industry is vs where it used to be.
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Re: Revised PS5 Pro Model Reportedly Coming Soon in Europe, But Don't Expect Much
@BusyOlf @Balaam_ both your points are true. Never liked the design of it. A console that needs a stand or legs to sit flat seems odd. But i have gotten blasted on here many times for saying this. But my only gripe with the PS5 is the size and layout choices of the controller. Sure the Dual sense is good with features and i know controller size is subjective. But man Dual sense really hurts my left thumb. Some of that i think is the tighter tenison Sony uses on their sticks compared to Xbox and others. But i really like the PS5 and wish i could play it for more than a hour at a time. But the controller just has me back to Xbox within 60 mins. I hope PS6 makes a basic design consoles and they get the Dual Sense 2 a little smaller. 10-15% and loosen up those sticks a little bit and i would game on it a lot more.
Re: Sony Adds Official Desktop Speakers to Its Increasingly Enormous Product Family
I will give them a listen. I am an audio fanatic so if i like the sound i will get them even tho i don’t really need them. Nice addition to the PS family tho. I like that they work on PC and Mac as well.
Re: Saros Launches Exclusively on PS5 in March 2026, and It Looks Fantastic in First Gameplay
This is just a Returnal reskin. So i am not getting it. But i hope it finds a little better audience than Returnal did. Pass for me. But i am sure this kept the game in budget. Which is good.
Re: PS5's New Power Saver Feature Confirms Its First Supported Games
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare i mean i for sure agree with you. Not sure who or how many will use this low power mode. But i suppose we will see what they do with it once it get’s rolled out and more people have it. I am excited to see more plans in the future about the PS6 and handheld. As for the PS5 Pro, man that thing needs a few wins here soon before i call it a bust and i wanted to love that machine when it was announced. I was all for it. But it just get’s hard to see so much wasted potential.
Re: PS5's New Power Saver Feature Confirms Its First Supported Games
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare whats their other option? Send it to dev’s that likely won’t have a ton of time to do much with it? Tho i am sure they will do that and internally Sony will test it. But i am sure they will look for ways yet to be announced maybe to get some player results from it. Series S is already got 1000’s of games ready to port to handheld. Sony will need titles optimized and running for a launched handheld. All data is needed cause it almost feels like Sony is backing into this plan for next gen more than on top of it and ahead of the curve. I could be wrong. But selling a “pro” console that runs not a few games but multiple games worse than the base model tells me they are shifting into a area they are a little behind in and want to improve quicker rather than later. The PS5 Pro is a botched or successful GTA 6 away from being a console that is on the fence of make or bust.so i welcome all the attempts of research where and how they can get it. But at these price points it seems rough. I can’t with a straight face recommend anyone to use a Pro or this low power mode. But i think Sony will attempt a way to get the info. Again this isn’t to save you $2.39 on your monthly electric bill.
Then it’s been now said they are using this for first party titles. Well DUH!! Those are the titles they want to test internally for the handheld. Again that they have no optimization for unlike MS with the Series S.
Re: PS5's New Power Saver Feature Confirms Its First Supported Games
Reading the comments tell’s me some haven’t learned anything from the PS5 Pro. Sony is BETA testing it’s next gen plans at the tail end of this gen.
PS5 Pro is full on testing for PS6 AI upscaling (PSSR)
Hence the console has such erratic behaviors on games. Cause it’s not fully baked. PSSR is already onto its next update.
PS5 power mode is to get games running for the handheld next gen cause Sony don’t have a Series S, yes the Series S that get’s made fun of. MS has a ton of work already done to put them games on a handheld. Sony is bringing this out to test for their handheld next gen. All of it is smart to a degree even tho it’s over priced. But it will help them going forward. But this isn’t to cut your system into a savings on your electric bill.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Borderlands 4?
@Northern_munkey He could have at least brought you some Golf balls my brother. Haha
Re: Round Up: Borderlands 4 Reviews All on PC, No PS5 Verdicts Anywhere
@OldGamer999 On pure they show the BL4 running on Series X it’s 60fps on Performance mode and 30fps on Quality mode. This is way the next gen consoles will be day 1 buys for me. The CPU in the consoles is already aged out on a lot of games. Sure some of it is optimization. But even with that the limits on that CPU are showing. I want to play BL4 but i am more excited for next months Battlefield 6 so i might just hold off. I am still playing Gears of War Reloaded online. I will be watching the PS5 Pro review for BL4 tho. Like to see if it runs good or not. That console is so up and down it’s hard to know.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Will Have a Detachable Disc Drive, Much Simpler Design
@get2sammyb i agree, i think the add on disc drive is the smartest way forward. Sony has done a great job with this concept. I am 100% digital. But it’s nice to know if i wanted a disc drive i could still get one and just attach it in 3 mins or less. I think this is the way forward. Most gamers are digital. But there is still enjoy of a physical games market to warrant the add on.
Re: Metal Gear Solid Delta's Dismal PS5 Pro Support Could Use a Rethink
The only take away i get from this is when the PC has a bad optimized game lots of people blame the platform. But when consoles have a game running poorly it’s the devs. PC has 1000’s upon 1000’s of games that run great but when a bad one does hit the platform takes the hit and not the devs. I don’t even have a PC. This is just a general thing i see in the gamer circles. As for PS5 Pro it was clearly a testing ground for PS6 and to me it’s not a good console nor bad. It’s just a very inconsistent console and one that i will not be supporting. I’ll just wait for PS6 and the next Xbox.
Re: 'We'll Continue to Evolve the PS Store': Sony on Making PS5, PS4 Shopping Better
Steam and Xbox for sure have way better stores than PS. Plus a better Digital return policy on a game. So i am happy to see Sony at least say they are working on improving it. Even if that means for PS6 and not PS5. Time will tell on that. But Digital is where 8 out of 10 people buy games and outside of a server cost, that is the most profitable way to sell games. So take some of that and make a big slash on the store, only seems right.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@mvhess to your point and it’s a good one. That is why i started to second guess building a PC. I work from home and i sit at my desk all day, do i really want to sit there again to game? I don’t know and i don’t have another space i could use for just the gaming PC. So i too like to play Xbox and PS on my couch. I did get the Switch 2 and i play that 60% of the time on the Tv and the other in handheld. I don’t see Sony not making great content for PS. No reason not too, player still enjoy those games. I do, i buy a PS just for God of War and a few others. I play a lot of 3rd party on Xbox cause i like the controller layout more. Nothing else. Just the controller layout. I am faster and more accurate with off set sticks vs in line sticks. Otherwise i like the consoles the same. I also have been using Apple products for the last 14 years. I only use windows for work. So i am not sure how PC savvy i am to do certain tasks necessary on a gaming PC. Would i like that experience? Just not sure. But you make a great point about not wanting to sit at that desk any longer after 8 hours HAHA
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@mvhess i don’t completely disagree with what you are saying. Surely games on GP aren’t going to sell. When they have 30 plus million subs. But GTA 6 on Xbox will sell well, RDR 2 and others still put up enough numbers to be worth it. Switch not so much and PS is the heavy lifter for sure. But 500K x let’s say $50 a title is some nice porting money. I mean that’s nearly free money. Hence most of their games are on it. But if exclusives are all you buy into consoles, it’s looking like you either need to go switch or just go PC. Unless you are good with timed exclusives, Sony has those now. Whatever makes you happy, i have all 3 consoles. I like them all for different reasons. But PC has been on my mind for a year i just haven’t pulled that trigger yet.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@mvhess seems like you have a bone to pick with Sony not me buddy! But it’s not the console wars no more it’s platform wars. Sony wants in on that MAU money. They already have their games on PC and make good money, port them to Xbox and even if it sells 1-2 million copies out of the 35 million Xbox owners. That is a nice free of mostly profit for Sony. Nothing seems dumb about that to me.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@Vaako007 pc isn’t a direct competitor to consoles. Families and young boys still want PlayStations. Families can get a console for a good price which provides a lot of value for the family. Contrast this to an entry level PC for gaming which most families wouldn’t consider.
Just food for thought, Capcom came out and said PC sales out grossed all consoles sales combined. So while I’ll let you decide if that is competition or not, it’s clearly money not going in to the consoles hands, which is a lot of money.
Secondly i am dating a girl right now that has a 9 year old boy. He has a Xbox and is a HUGE Fortnite players. He makes me and his mom watch him play, it’s cute and he’s actually really good. All he talks to me about is he wants a gaming PC for Christmas so he can play at 240fps and he has friends in school with a PC. So while i agree consoles are still great value and sell well. PC is growing on all age levels and it’s growing at an insanely fast rate. Just someting to think about. Not trying to say what you said is wrong, just sharing some stuff i see in my day to day life. 😀
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@get2sammyb further more i would just like to add that i think Sony is making smart business decisions, investing into Unreal and Bandi and others. Being on PC and now likely Nintendo, Xbox and Mobile. Thinking outside the closed box ecosystem. Sure it upsets some of the closed minded console players. But i think long term Sony will be able to invest in bigger games and budgets. Maintain prices on hardware cost to the player, and please shareholders. So i am all for it. Phil Spencer said the industry was going to look different, and correct me if i am wrong, but i seen people on here mock him and say shut up Phil, run your own company, you don’t know nothing blah blah blah, I’d like to say we are starting to see more of that change Phil spoke too. Slowly but surely the console business is changing and i am proud to see Sony adopt new models of money and games being on PC and other platforms.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@Oram77 read above to be reminded that is a fraction of the bigger business model in play here. But a part of it none then less.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
@get2sammyb People think that the 90’s and 2000’s business model is the only way to be successful and the only way Sony should do business. Puff the chest of console sales and while console sales matter and can make decent money, it’s not the type of money it once was. However if i asked this player base 6 months ago if they thought PS 1st party games would come to Xbox and Nintendo, the answer would have been 94% no. If i asked the same player base if micro transactions that everyone hates so much would be the highest profit maker for Sony they would be around 50% no. But we are seeing Sony step slowly away from this older closed box business model and if you haven’t been paying attention on here and YouTube, it’s got a lot of PS players in distress. The Sooner Sony rips the band-aid off like MS did and goes full 3rd party and continues to invest outside of just console sales the better for the player base so i don’t have to filter past 74 excuse and goal post moving comments. It will be out in the open and we can all get back to enjoying games and let the suit and ties make their profit margins in any way they seem fit. I am just here to remind people it won’t be solely based on the fact that Sony sells good hardware numbers. That model is largely dead in today’s gaming unless your name is NINTENDO.
Re: A Quote from a Sony Exec Is Causing a Hubbub Among PS5 Fans Again
Some people really have to learn the hard way. At this point Sony needs to rip the band aid off so the cat is out of the bag and everyone can get back to their normal arguing points!
Re: Claim a Bunch of Free PS Plus Avatars with These PSN Codes
They look awful. I will keep the ones i use now. I don’t want the PS Plus logo. It’s not a good logo to begin with. Dang it and i was excited for these too. 3/10
Re: New PS5 Games for August and September 2025
Gears, Metal Gear and Borderlands 4 for me. Likely I’ll get BL4 and Gears of War on Series X and Metal Gear on PS5. It’s a stack 3-4 months for some high quality games. Looking forward to it.
I still need to get Donkey Kong for Switch 2.
Re: Shinobi: Art of Vengeance Has a Free Playable Demo Available Right Now on PS5, PS4
I’m excited for this game. Thinking i will buy it for Switch 2. Be fun to have on the go. Hope it does well as Sega has a big list of other titles coming. Hope they all turn out really good.
Re: Battlefield 6 Out on PS5 This October, Tons of Gameplay Revealed in Grand Presentation
@Frmknst How can people be excited about deathmatch multiplayer Literally every round "spawn, dead, spawn, kill, dead, spawn"
Sharping your skills and tactics so it looks like Spawn, Kill, kill, kill, dead, Spawn Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill dead Spawn. These are my most played games as battle royal is to slow, i want the fast pace skill based twitch shooters. Everyone is different tho and so i am excited to see more modes added for those that want to play them.
Re: PS5 Fans Getting 'Really Carried Away' with Job Listing Which Implied More Exclusives Could Be Ported to Xbox, Switch
@Banjo- you know i keep the receipts on here Pure. That’s why so many take shots at me and call me names and this and that. I don’t see many on here saying you know what, you were right, Phil did say the industry was going to change and thats ok cause they know they are wrong and they also know exclusives as we once knew them are now just a Nintendo thing. I’ll give it some more time but you and i know when i pull out older receipts all they do is name call and move the goal post. They ain’t going to say i was right and so was Phil or anyone else. They sure as H E double hockey sticks aren’t going to say they were wrong. HAHA
Re: Sony Job Listing Implies More PS5 Exclusives Will Be Ported to Xbox, Nintendo
@LogicStrikesAgain they are just looking for profit and they will make some with this move. But yes the 30% cut and micro transactions is the real money. I got my popcorn already made. This will be a lot of goal post moving over the next few days, weeks and months. YouTube is about to be SPICY.
Re: Sony Job Listing Implies More PS5 Exclusives Will Be Ported to Xbox, Nintendo
@get2sammyb remember when Phil Spencer said the market will change and look different for many companies, while we at MS are just ahead of the curve. This site and the post read stay out of Sony’s Business Phil, you don’t know what you are talking about etc etc. i bet no one remembers that. I do. There is to much money needed to be made on expensive games not to have games on as many platforms as soon as possible. When i said do we really think we will see MS rake in cash and Sony sit back and please a few million hardcore fans? Thats not how business’s grow. They don’t care what we think, cause we will still buy a PS or Xbox and for all the people saying they will go to PC. That still make money for MS and Sony. Time will tell but i think this will be a huge boost to software sales if they do it. Xbox players buy more games than the average person on a website hating their fan base thinks. You really think the Last of us or God of War wouldn’t sell 3 million copies to the 35 million Xbox fan base?
Re: Borderlands 4 Ready for PS5 Launch as Promising FPS Goes Gold
I am excited for this. Watched a lot of the gameplay and think the series is back on track for me to enjoy. Looking forward to it. Glad it didn’t have any setbacks.
Re: New PS5 Beta Firmware Update Out 24th July, Includes Teased Controller Feature
Correct highly underutilized would be the correct term. I have never loved the feel of a PS controller in hand. I use them cause i like to play on PS consoles. But if they made the Dual Sense 2 a tad smaller, I think i could actually like that one. Time will tell, PS6 should have a slightly changed design as that has always been a theme for new PS consoles.
Re: New PS5 Beta Firmware Update Out 24th July, Includes Teased Controller Feature
@Oram77 Astro Bot used the whole controller really well. But 99% of the games on the market don’t use the touch pad. It’s just a giant button. I am simply not sold it’s important enough for the size it takes up. If they made it smaller i would be good with that.
Re: Sony Veterans Notice Their Purchased PS3 Avatars Have Gone Missing
PS needs some new avatars. The one’s from the PS3 look dated. Sucks that ones that people paid for are the ones not available. That don’t seem right.
Re: New PS5 Beta Firmware Update Out 24th July, Includes Teased Controller Feature
@PushButtons The TouchPad is the most useless feature in gaming history, it takes up a ¼ of the controller and is not utilized for anything worth mentioning
I’ve been saying this for a long time. It makes the controller bigger for no good reason. My left thumb takes a beating with this design. I’d like to see the Dual Sense 2 get a touch smaller.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Rich33 yeah i agree. Wishing you a great weekend and hope you find a game to play and enjoy. Thanks for the good conversation.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Rich33 for PS6 and PS6 Pro: yes i agree give us the expensive pro at launch and to your point feels better on the wallet knowing i get the extra juice all generation long. I expect PS6 to be a nice upgrade over PS5 as it has been rumored to feature a Ryzen 6 vs the 2 in the PS5. Also it will have FSR 4 right off the bat. So AI will be doing some heavy lifting. Overall the PS6 will be what we expect and i don’t see anything wrong with that. I just hope the controller is more comfortable for me than the Dual Sense and it could end up being my main platform, something a PS hasn’t been since PS2.
Xbox: this is again the wild card console. It will be different than generations past. I read where devs like the idea of it being a certain power spec as it gives them a baseline to code for on PC. However it will still be a console in the sense of the operating system and Ui and i think that should help some with optimization. Windows light is the big wild card. If done poorly then the whole thing could suffer out the gate. If done well or even great, this will be huge as MS will not miss any games as they are all being made for those specs for a pc anyway. I expect the next Xbox to be expensive, as MS is done taking a loss on hardware and really so is Sony. However MS has delayed its handheld but said it is still coming and chips are in production talks for it. I believe this will be their Nintendo switch, dockable/ portable and sold for a more mass market price. The big tower will be the expensive enthusiast model. With MS selling their games everywhere, they don’t need 100 million units sold to make money. We are selling how much they are making now with the ABK deal and they trail far behind in console sales. I like a lot about the idea of it, or at least the little we do know about it. But again it comes down to crossing T’s and dotting I’s on it and thats something MS is 50/50 on as a company. When they go wrong they go way wrong and when they get some thing right it is normally very solid.
I am just excited to learn more and believe in 2026 the leaks will be pouring out for both consoles. The rumor is Asus will have a Xbox console coming in 2026 and the MS first party console in 2027. So we may get a big look at this sooner than we think if leaks are on point. 😀
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Rich33 agreed, I’ve been wishing for Xbox or PS to do this. Build a Pro that is way powerful and launches day and date with the more affordable base. Seeing as the PC rig i would build would be $5k easily without the monitor. I would gladly buy both the Xbox and PS6 at $1000 with power. Now go for a little ride with me on this. We know Xbox is going PC with a console Ui for its next gen. We also know that OEM’s are going to be building some Xbox’s with their specs and using the Xbox Os. So what if say Razer or Corsair or Alienware built a $1500 dollar monster Xbox? I would buy that. It would be my perfect machine, PC power with a console Ui and controller. Now the other thing i like about that is when you buy games there they aren’t locked to just that machine. Maybe in 5 years i change my mind and i want to build a PC, all those games i bought on Xbox or Steam or Epic come with me. As to where my PS titles are locked to a PS device. This is why i think they need to go this way with Xbox. All their fumbles has lead to this chance of being the open platform PC/Console in a box under your tv. This doesn’t mean i ain’t excited for PS6 as i am. But i know what it will be and that works. But this next Xbox will be interesting, but they have to make sure it all works well. Has to be a PC without the nonsense. Time will tell. But overall after being really happy with my Switch 2, i can’t stop playing it, i am excited for next gen. I think it’s going to be awesome. All 3 doing something different for sure means they all get my money again. 😊
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Rich33 Yeah i ain’t a windows fan and no the Xbox nor the PS6 will have the CPU/GPU combo we would want. So i guess we are stuck with console. Haha but i love console and am fine with it. Sure i would like to pay for more power and performance but not at the expense of fiddling with windows and drivers. I already got my Switch 2 and i will for sure get the next Xbox and PS6.
Re: PS Stars Program Marks Its Eventual Shut Down with One Last Collectible
Sad to see it go for everyone. Just crazy how much money Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo make and we get robbed of a few rewards here and there.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Rich33 i never understood the people that defend broken games at launch. That game was not ready for launch. Period end of topic for me. Sure games can add things over time, thats fine. But not to launch at full price and it don’t work until a year later. To your point on the different in house engine Sony teams have. I agree, why don’t they do more with those? I assume it comes down to experience and training on those engines. But most of them if not all of them are really good. Very stable now as well. I still don’t see them bringing Spider-man to Xbox. Could they? Yes of course they could, but they have so much invested into their own IP’s , that i just don’t see it, but i would welcome it. To your point tho, it would hurt the brand in some cases. Take me for an example. l like PS, i always have. I’ve been playing them and buying them since the start, PS1. But i never loved their controllers. They were small, then i didn’t like their thumb sticks nor the placement of them. I prefer offset. So for me, i play more on Xbox and Switch cause i like the controller layout more. No other reason, if Sony had the controller i liked more i might not even buy an Xbox. So if I could play all the Sony games i wanted to play on Xbox or PC. I really wouldn’t need to get a PS6. I probably still would cause i am a console fanatic. But to your point. It wouldn’t be a must have. I buy them for their games only. I buy very little to no 3rd party titles there since the launch of 360. So it’s been a while. To your other point, i too like higher FPS. So PC would be a perfect fit for me, but i am a 17 year Mac user and don’t love windows nor do i know how to build and troubleshoot on that platform, so i have stayed away. Even tho you and i should both be on PC hahaha But you do have very very valid points.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@cburg Hey there my buddy. Man i missed hearing from you lately. I hope you have been well and having a great summer also. Mine has been going ok so far. Maybe a little too much work to fun ratio but sometimes you’ll have that. I am enjoying the new Switch 2 and looking forward to some bigger titles in the fall. I have my set of people on here that give me a hard time. But you and a few others have always been awesome and i always wish ya’ll the best!! 😊
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Rich33 to your point of do people buy a console for exclusives the answer is yes sometimes. But it’s a lower percentage of people than we make it out to be as the sales for those games are just good, not consistent chart toppers. But yes exclusives have a place and i do not think Sony will just stop that business approach all together. That is a big piece of their strategy. But in fairness we have seen PC releases get shorter and shorter over this generation. Will that continue, i am not sure. But Sony has made it clear they want MAU’s now. MS has more MAU’s with owning such big IP’s that have player bases that are huge. Hence Sony went all in on live service. Even tho so far that has looked to be a train wreck. They are still committed to that strategy. Plus if Cloud becomes the future tech and people aren’t buying console. Sony would be wise to grow their IP’s audience base. Cause the younger gamer don’t care about exclusives much, they care more about can i play my game on a console, then on a handheld or mobile device when i am away and pick up on a PC at a friends house. Being locked to one box for them isn’t as important or even convenient as it was for say kids growing up on the SNES like me. However Sony is wildly successful right now with the PS5 and the traditional console model. I don’t see them changing it to much to quickly but slowly and over time. MS has shifted it’s console business to be more like PC and be more open. I think both strategies are smart for where they are in the market. After all it’s Nintendo that is the one that can keep say Animal crossing to it’s own platform and sell 60 million copies at near full price. So we know they aren’t changing plans anytime soon. PlayStation is a powerful brand worldwide. I don’t see them losing massive player base over some older titles coming to PC and Xbox. My last point and i want your honest opinion. Take Bend Studios for an example. Day’s Gone wasn’t a massive success on PS4 and PS5, then Sony cancelled Days Gone 2, then they cancel other projects Bend studios were working on and laid off workers. It’s rumored Bend might return to being a naughty Dog support studio for a while. My question is would you be happy if Days Gone came to Xbox and sold maybe say 1-2 million copies and keep the studio afloat longer or would you rather Days Gone stay exclusive and the studio possibly shut down to the size of a support studio for good? Cause this extra money that other platforms bring in can be more sufficient than you might think depending on the studio. I know what my answer would be. Thanks so much for the friendly chat. I enjoy industry talks as long as they stay civil and educational and not bashing and name calling. So again i have appreciated your time and respect on the topic. 😊
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@IOI Sorry but these articles are pathetic and show the hypocrisy of the author, if this is port begging then you have done the very same thing when Microsoft started to shift into being multiplatform…
You know when MS and Sony cross the street that the internet says MS was jay walking and Sony was just trying to get to where it was going. The internet is like wrestling there has to be a face and a heel for the storyline. But yes to your point, it’s 1000% correct. This site has drank to much of the PS is perfect cause they sell a lot of units kool-Aid. It used to be more non bias than lately in my opinion.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Rich33 there is no legal way Sony can pick and choose which windows device runs a PC game. They can not go to PC, but if you listen to their investor meetings talks or even just read this article it states Sony is looking at ways to sell more games off its platform. They even Said PC prints money, so i do not see them doing that, it would sink their projects financially. As for the small install base. 35 million and growing is not small, it’s smaller than PS yes, but it’s not small. If Spider-Man sold 3 million copies at $50-$70 a piece you do the math on what that would put in their pockets. It’s a lot. Forza Horizon 5 just sold 3 million more copies on PS5 and that is great money for a game already made and easy to port seeing as both machines run AMD hardware. Easy money and while i don’t see Sony doing it yet they will for some titles, mostly live service as it only makes sense for those titles. PS5 and Xbox are a PC in a box now, they are just closed off PC’s. All Xbox next gen will be doing is taking off the closed portions and making a lite version of Windows being the driver of freedom. Which is what i want seeing as i don’t want to build a PC right now due to inflated GPU prices. So that box gives me the best of both worlds. Sony’s brand was largely built off 3rd party. Then they grew their first party and now fan’s think only exclusives sell the brand when the truth is those games don’t last on the top 10 sold for long. It’s all 3rd party tiles that sell PS’s and Xbox’s. Nintendo sells exclusives in high high numbers and those games sell for the whole life of the console. Not so much for PS and Xbox. The sales charts show that. So SM coming to other places won’t hurt the brand nearly like some will have it to be believed. However PC is growing and growing fast so console sales will remain flat or even decline in the future if this trend continues. They will have to go to PC and maybe even NIntendo and MS at some point. Now it don’t matter for me, i buy all 3 consoles. But for their bottom line they will find and follow the money. Many 3rd party companies have already said and shown they make more money on PC than they do all 3 consoles combined. Thats the trend that should scare us console players, not if games are on both Xbox and PS.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Oram77 i never thought you did buddy, i was just talking in general. You didn’t come off as being rude or anything like that to me. 😀
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Rich33 don’t listen to them, the PS fans said most of Xbox games were boring and rubbish and at one point MS games were 50% of the best selling top 10 on PS5. If Spider-Man comes to Xbox many players will get it. Not to mention it would line the studios pockets for Wolverine and other titles that will be exclusive for the PS platforms. It’s a win win really in my eyes.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Northern_munkey Glad you are liking FH5. It’s a great game. I wish PS would have gotten FH4 also. It is right there with 5, some even like it more cause it’s in Europe. Exactly who cares if spider-man or any game goes to a platform as long as people buy it and enjoy it, thats the whole point. But then they wouldn’t be able to make fun of other players and companies as easily. They would have to have something else to come on here and talk mess about. That’s their real position they don’t want to lose. You know me and Gears of War. Gears, Red Dead and Diablo are my top 3 heavy hitters in the whole industry. I have around 2000 hours in Gears 5 PVP. So yeah that coming to PS5 is awesome. I can’t wait for others to play and hopfully come online and play as well. I am getting it for free on Series X, so i pre ordered Gears on PS5 to have it on both consoles. Yeah i am that hardcore or careless with my money, however you want to phrase it haha
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Oram77 as for you point of something selling well doesn’t mean it’s the best. Welcome to my world, I’ve been telling that to PS fans bragging of the console sales for decades and it normally falls on deaf ears, i am glad you agree. Something selling more isn’t a factor to me. Never was. The GameCube gave me more fun than most consoles i ever bought and it was really low in sales.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Oram77 it’s not even worth my time to explain the quality of a Forza Horizon game, you either know or you don’t. It’s AAA greatness and the sales showed how much another fan base wanted it.
Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
@Oram77 “Sure, but give us something that is equal in quality then you have a deal.”
Seeing as Forza Horizon 5 outsold Astro bot the 2024 game of year, I’d like to say that has already been done by the looks of it. The fact is extra money is needed more than ever and it’s not like Spider-man coming to Xbox is going to make anyone sell their PS5 and get another platform. PS5 will remain healthy even with a few big budget games being on multi platforms.
Re: Sony Says PS5 Is the Best Place to Watch in TV Centric Ad
I don’t use any for my consoles for TV. I use an Apple TV on a LG Oled. It works perfect with all my other Apple devices. Tho i am sure there is nothing wrong with the PS5 as a media device for those that need or like it.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Sold an Outrageous 2 Million Copies on PS5 in a Month
@Deljo i completely agree. I was so into the Xbox 360 and the PS3 games. Now i found myself struggling to get interested in the concept of the game, or the story, or gameplay. I couldn’t be payed to play soul’s like games nor battle royal shooters. So right there is a huge chunk of modern titles i don’t even give a dime too. I find myself still loving Nintendo games, cause of the gameplay loop they have. But i hope to see a nice bounce back of games i want to play soon.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Sold an Outrageous 2 Million Copies on PS5 in a Month
@Deljo i agree with you, i own all 3 consoles and enjoy having them. But we are already at point of lots of gamers switching to PC. Which is a box that plays everything. The next XBox is going to be a box under the tv that plays everything. But going forward that might be the best way for games to make back development cost which is to be on all platforms. Sony themselves said they are chasing MAU’s now. As Microsoft has more of those than Sony at the moment. Another thing to consider is Sony is making more money from micro transactions than anything else. Paints a very different picture of where the industry is vs where it used to be.