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GTA 6 will sell some Pro’s but again that price point at what you get is debatable. Not for me as this hobby i have enough income to cover. But for mainstream players on a tighter budget assassin’s Creed won’t push many units of Pro. If GTA 6 knocks it out of the park, that could. I held back on the Pro even tho i did want one. However i am looking to build a high end PC rig as that will be my PS device going forward. Throw a Xbox downstairs on the larger tv and get a Swtich 2 for playing in bed and that will set me up for the future. Sony could bleed my money dry if they had off set sticks on their controller. But those thumb sticks placements are TRASH!

@Ken_Kaniff it’s all about engagement numbers for the investors meetings at MS. Look at GP on Xbox, they have a 3 month span of some really good titles. So add that alongside GTA 6 coming out sometime in the back half of the year and you better give these titles a chance at being played as GTA 6 will shut down the industry for a few months or more. For causal players GTA 6 will shut down other games for over a year.

@Rich33 i want to see more games really use the Pro to show it off, which i think some will. The main game that will get people excited for Pro will be GTA 6. Cause if that can do this much a difference with the graphics that will be insane. Granted the game will run 30fps this generation. These CPU’s in PS5 and Series X can’t run a CPU heavy game like GTA 6 at 60. But likely PS6 and the next Xbox will. It pains me to say i have no faith i will ever get my 60 fps patch for RDR2. I kind of gave up on it haha

@Rich33 yeah i agree with you and the great points you made. 60 fps and high quality graphics are just so hard on console due to the CPU being so underpowered. Now i expect Sony and MS are working on getting better CPU’s in their next gen hardware due to how loudly console players have been about 60fps being the minimum fps they want. AI tech will help some with that as well.

Assassin’s Creed isn’t my game, i mean it’s ok and if they were smaller titles in their next gen 30 hour range i would give them a play but i do not like it enough to do 80-100 hours. I seen where cut scenes and hub area were 30. I had a feeling that might throw some people off. You could wait for a patch and let’s be honest in less than a year this game will be $45 bucks on sale. They always are.

Well thats one reason to buy your game physical i suppose. When they hard flop they are worth 10X what you paid.

Love the name, not so much the logo. But that don’t matter much. Let’s hope they put out a great first game to build some momentum. Sony needs some games to hit and start making some money. To many cancelled games in the last year. Am i just being nervous or should we be concerned for Wolverine. It’s been 3-3.5 years since that reveal trailer and we have seen nothing. No i am not including the insomniac leak.

@OldGamer999 yeah even on YouTube it looked amazing so i can only imagine what it really looks like. Pro could really start cooking here if Devs put in this much work. Plus when PSSR goes away for FSR 4 things should get even better. While i do wish Sony could have gotten the Pro out for $600 it’s still a nice upgrade over base model.

@OldGamer999 yeah for sure. Lots of ray tracing effects would be my guess. That seems to be the edge the Pro has on the base. I am guessing Sony will show Ghost off a lot more come June.

For all those that said ray tracing is just a resource hog and doesn’t add much visual improvement. This should show you that indeed ray tracing is a big leap forward in visuals and atmosphere. Lighting is making a big difference here and i am happy to see it. That is an area PS6 can greatly expand on and bring life like worlds to games. Color me impressed and that isn’t easily done this generation, now just wait for GTA 6 on Pro. That is going to be the one that makes players pay more attention to Pro.

@StylesT laptop CPU’s and GPU’s are a little different experience on PC vs the full desktop GPU’s. So you are right in saying you might not notice a huge difference. But if you had a 5080 in a desktop it would destroy the Pro in every way possible. I think i am going to PC desktop at some point. Steam is just to good to miss out on for me.

@DennisReynolds Dennis i am a man of my word when i say i keep receipts. I see what everyone say’s and often times upset them when i call upon those receipts. With that said, it’s time for me to eat some crow. I said a $700 dollar upgrade isn’t something we should have to zoom in at 200-400X. I said that it looked like Dev’s were being lazy with the Pro cause dollars and time is limited and they might not support it in big ways due to it being the lower install sku. Well if this is what we will be seeing going forward. I am buying a Pro, that is NIGHT and DAY different. No need to zoom in on that. I am impressed and again proven wrong in the ways i wanted to be wrong about. I knew the power in the Pro was more than what we were seeing. Likely before the end of summer i will get a Pro. I just need to see more games for it and some that of course i want to play as Assassin’s Creed isn’t my thing.

@themightyant wow whatever it is it is really eye opening to what the pro can do. I am very impressed. It makes the base PS5 look like a PS4. I mean no one can look at the side by side and say thats not a HUGE upgrade. Now if thats worth $700 dollars or not thats subjective. Money is different to all people. But they keep this up and i am buying a Pro.

@DennisReynolds for that one i will have to just see it in video as i am no Death stranding fan. But i would think it will get some love as Kojima is a master class designer and i don’t think he would waste that much under the hood power.

I will say this to all the people myself included that said for $700 dollars we have to zoom in at 400x to see a difference isn’t a pro model upgrade. Well Assassin’s Creed on PS5 pro looks next gen and the base model looks PS4. It’s that night and day difference from the video that is showing it. Now that is the power you expect from that type of price increase. The Pro just might be starting to cook. I am interested again. Do that to Gears of War and i will happily buy a pro.

@Stevemalkpus it’s everyone don’t buy games but PS gamers. Then they make excuses for why Astro Bot was sitting at 1.5 million and Hell divers sold more on PC. The truth is PC with Steam is starting to flex on console sales. I’m an accountant and as we say even tho it’s cheesy and cliche, numbers don’t lie, people do.

@Haruki_NLI Steam is growing their numbers really fast right now. PC gaming is on a rise like we haven’t seen in a long time if ever. PC is beating console on most game sales the last year or so. If Steam were to launch a nice Steam Deck 2 upgrade and a Steam console i would switch to that and sell my PS and Xbox. It’s a way more gamer focused experience and they hold dev’s accountable in ways consoles would never dare.

@OldGamer999 DF quote.
“Assassin's Creed Shadows delivers one of the most substantial PS5 Pro upgrades we've seen
Ray-traced lighting at 60fps”

And thats with PSSR which isn’t as good as the incoming FSR 4, so pro should really be able to shine in the future. I want to see what a Sony 1st party title will be able to achieve with Pro. Should be amazing.

I like the name, be nice to see in time what they have planned. Maybe this game won’t get cancelled. One can hope.

@Flaming_Kaiser when i did that clearly that gets you in trouble more than it’s worth. I have my stance and going forward i am keeping it to myself.

I played a lot of this on Series X and the achievements take a while to get. Most of them are fun with the few that are just a little annoying. I do wish we could delete games on Xbox and PS that we played and didn’t like that we got 1 trophy or 5G on. I would happily give back the points and bronze to have it off my list so it’s easier to scroll. I know it will likely never happen. But that is a dream feature to achievements and trophies for me.

Resistance would be the one that would excite me the most. Killzone is eh, and Socom is so old i forgot if i really liked it all that much. But it would be a title that has a solid name and would fit the live service model best i think. Exciting news. Hope to learn more about it in the near future.

And to think that movie is old enough to be on version 1 of 3 of the Last of Us.

@RoomWithaMoose Japanese dev’s as of late has done well with older IP for sure. Really excited for some of the Sega titles they have planned. I love me some streets of rage and golden axe. Nintendo is just light years ahead of the industry at this point.

I am not saying it’s a done deal that Ubisoft will sell and if the price is right for either side. That’s for the suites and ties to determine. Often times one side wins that deal over the other. However i stand on it’s smart business to at least call and start to plant that seed if and only if you have a plan to do something with said title.

Assassins Creed isn’t really a mainstream audience game these days. So sure mainstream gamers aren’t following the hate looming the game but they aren’t going to be the ones footing the bill. The ones that are are the ones doing the complaining. So i am just not sold on it doing enough to really help Ubisoft’s pockets all that well. Again time will tell and I’d like to see it do well for them as i don’t wish for games to fail. But i think the game has a slight uphill battle going against it with the core players.

@RoomWithaMoose i agree with most of that. But in MS’s case they have to pick up the phone and ask. If sold for peanuts and they have a creative idea behind it then why not. EA sort of the same. Ubisoft IP’s at large don’t interest me at all and the ones that do like you said are a little more boxed in than mainstream giants. I still think it’s worth a phone for both EA and MS. That’s just smart business.

Capcom has been really great at leveraging their older IP. I want Konami to get there as i love some of their older stuff. But at large most companies have ran from its past or tried to put a live service spin to them. Only to fall on their face as gamers haven’t taken the bait with the once popular IP name behind a much different game or method of pay and play. I will say Ubisoft needs this upcoming AC game to do well. At the very least not lose money and i just don’t see it doing much better than breaking even. To much drama around the title.

@EfYI by the looks for Forza Horizon 5 pre orders i think Push Square has given you your answer already. But don’t take my word for it. Just turn on your PS5 and go to the Pre order section. Bait taken it appears.

@RoomWithaMoose “Microsoft and EA just like to sit on IP until they lose all value”

Who isn’t doing that in the industry right now? Ubisoft did it and thats why they have so many duds. Instead of giving us some of those classic IP’s we got skull and Bones. Sony is sitting on a treasure trove of IP’s we all ask for on this site and we get more Horizon and Spider-man and Last of us and Day’s Gone remasters. The list goes on and on, it’s not a EA or MS problem. It’s an industry problem. As no one wants to sell “smaller” ip’s they all want to try for the heavy hitters over and over.

@EfYI i never did the stack thing. I know many in the beginning did. Such ways has been disable. But at the end of the day the service is wonderful. I pay my $20 and got to play Indiana Jones and Avowed and i am really enjoying them but certainly wouldn’t have bought them day and date. Only to find out i would have missed out cause i really had a great time with them.

@RoomWithaMoose not sure what will happen if anything. I just read the report today. I mean COD is COD and not going anywhere. But I’d love to see MS grab splinter cell and do someting with it. Would be a solid pick up. As for EA who know’s what they would be after. I am sure as time unfolds we will hear more about what’s for sale and what isn’t.

@breakneck for sure, i agree. Just read the story today that MS and EA are actively asking. But i am sure some of their IP will be off loaded. I would assume they will try and keep most of the heavy hitters. But it’s hard to say. Money talks.

Shareholders might be happy to know Microsoft and EA are asking Ubisoft for the sale of certain IP’s. No one will buy the whole company. That would be pointless. But i could see MS paying big for Tom Clancy and EA going after a few others if Ubisoft is willing to accept. The story i think broke today on that.

@KundaliniRising333 the one thing it don’t have written all over it is a remake no one asked for that is hard to tell the difference in graphics. So that will be a nice change eh?

@EfYI so millions of people paying $20 a month on GP is peanuts but you want to pay like what $40 for it or get it on a service and that’s different how? Sorry not trying to be rude, cause it’s your money and i respect that. But Xbox players shouldn’t get it for this but you want it for that. I played it on GP and it was great. MS get’s my $20 every month. It’s beyond a great service and more to come. Just wasn’t sure how you didn’t see the irony in that comment i suppose.

@graymamba i for sure hope it’s great. What a year this would be if that too is a must play. Time will tell. MS did say to watch GP closely for more shadow drops. Could this be the big one? That would be nuts. Tho i think they would prefer to give the game more time to be marketed and known. 😀

@Ilovecoffee there’s only one problem with that. We console players are second class citizens due to the weak CPU in the PS5, PS5 Pro and Series consoles. Graphically the consoles can push fairly decent graphics but the CPU can’t keep up.

This was my first big RPG game i ever played. Got it on Xbox 360 and really enjoyed it. Tho i love FPS games. Playing Avowed now and really enjoying it. This would be really cool to see it get revealed and quickly launched. Will be picking it up as long as they did good work on it.

I hope this is a big game for PS5. As there hasn’t been much outside of Ratchet and Clank and Astro Bot that i have really enjoyed from 1st party, which is all i play on PS consoles. So i want this one to be really great. Time will tell, but i am interested. Now bring on that God of War remaster.

The device will be a Xbox using the windows kernel for it’s Xbox os like we have now. But it will be able to boot up full windows 11 and run Word, Excel and yes even Steam and Epic games store. Most gamers will use the Xbox store cause it will be the console like experience, the normal plug and play we are used too. This device has massive potential. It would be great for some students to have in a dorm. Hook it up to your TV and play COD. Then take it to your room and plug it into your monitor and do your homework. Hence it’s a console/PC hybrid in name and use.

@ChrisDeku i just thought it was funny a game like sea of thieves that was made fun of by PS fans for a few years then comes to PS5 and sell a million copies out the gate. But a game that i seen nothing but hype and excitement for in Astro bot sells 1.5 million out the gate. It’s just so hard to gauge what will and won’t do well these days was my point. I am happy Astro Bot will get to expand to more players being packed into the console now. More players playing that game is a good thing. It’s truly a well made game that is fun.

@mountain_spider the game is pure fun. I only buy PS consoles for their 1st party. Everything else is on Xbox and soon to be PC. This game and ratchet and clank alone made me happy i have a PS5. But neither are tops of the charts and it’s a concern going forward. Even those these games aren’t HUGE budgets they are still time and money. I ain’t saying we won’t see more but it be nice to see them drive a little more sales to ensure their time and risk for dev’s.

@ChrisDeku i don’t need to adjust anything. The game was at 1.5 million in 2 months. Now i am not saying thats awful. But it’s not lighting up the sales charts. Mario sure as hell sells more than that in a few hours of release. But Mario is different. I get it. All i was saying is this game should have came out swinging and it kinda of just threw a jab. Not a failure and to me one of the most fun games I’ve played in a long while. But not huge numbers which is concerning for games like these going forward. Sea of thrives a live service game that was a joke on this site before coming to PS5 sold a million in a short time for your exceptions and food for thought.

This is one way to get the sales numbers up for Astro Bot. I loved the game. Had so much fun with it. But the fact is it didn’t light the sales chart up. That disappointed me cause it was such a great game. More people getting to play Astro bot is a good thing.

@dskatter i mean you certainly have that right. Not to mention you wouldn’t run out of games to play anytime soon 😃

i have been digital only since the start of PS4 and Xbox One. Switch as well. so for me i already made the switch to digital only and i won’t lie there are times i miss the box art and what not of physical media. But not all that much. but i get it for those that still like it. sucks for them as it is dying off. but thats where the money is. same for movies and music. hope they continue to make it a little longer for yall!

@get2sammyb there’s a small market for all games in physical media. The keyword is small. Physical media in games still sell a little but this site often times shows the spilt from physical vs digital and it shows the numbers aren’t on the side of physical for much longer.

@Flaming_Kaiser i am not engaging in politics on here no more. Sorry man. My beliefs are staying to myself on that topic going forward. I will only talk games on here.

@dskatter not sure what choice a physical media collector in today’s world has. It’s shrinking in sales yearly. I ain’t saying it’s a good thing or a bad thing. But it’s the market and so it’s better to enjoy games no matter if they are digital only. No need to miss the fun just cause the data isn’t on a piece of plastic.

All the players saying no physical release. Sorry to say physical sales are down to the lowest numbers ever in the history of gaming and they aren’t going to suddenly claw back up the charts. We will see less and less physical and time goes on. Not saying it don’t suck for those that enjoy it, but get used to it now. It’s not coming back.

theory @Bez87 AMD is killing it right now. I just wish they would compete in the higher end market more to keep the Nvida pricing in line. Let this be an example for all the hardcore PS fanboys that i see on here constantly saying they wish the Xbox would go away. To them i say careful what you wish for. Sony will do what Nvida does and thats name their price. This isn’t a conspiracy theory it’s happen right now in our industry. When everything goes to cloud and PC then it won’t matter as much. But for now we need balance.

As for PSSR, it’s been a up and down thing depending on the game. But the PS5 Pro is a good starting point for it and they can continue to update it going forward. I expect PS6 and the next Xbox to lean into AI a lot. For console it really makes sense. For PC i would like to see more card power and less AI software doing the lifting. I am a console player since Super NES, and a diehard Apple computer user of almost 18 years now and i am thinking about going PC. But the build i want right now is around $5k thats a good amount of money to have AI doing the heavy lifting in my opinion. On console for sure it makes sense cause they have to build them within a budget.

Wait Sony is not doing a remake or remaster? Now that’s a first and of course it’s one that we actually want. Not until dawn and others that don’t need one. Seems to be the days we live in.

@Lindy01 never can tell in today’s tech and video game world. That’s why i check the news 3-4 times a day lol. Just never know what you’ll see. 😀

@mountain_spider Yeah i seen a few people saying Sony would likely be moving on to PSSR 2.0 by the PS6 and that is still likely the case. We don’t know yet. But no one seen FSR 4.0 actually being a DLSS competitor. So that might change some internal thoughts after testing. AMD has to be interested in AI upscaling cause their cards are weak to begin with. They can’t not have it in the PC space with how good Nvidia is. Time will tell. I get excited about next gen hardware, so i like to see the news coming. 😀

@Bez87 PSSR and FSR is different tech. But yes Sony and AMD are working together on chipset’s and AI for PS6.