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@Nepp67 well thats your take on Xbox cause clearly exclusivity means a lot to you. In my cause for what i like better on Xbox than other platforms and why i game so much on it would include the following .

1. I like the controller layout best
2. GamePass
3. Timed Exclusives, still a lot not on PS day and date.
4 returns on digital purchases, try it on PS and find out
5 Ui

I could go on and on with free cloud saves all the way back to the 360 games i played. But it’s more than just exclusives games for me that make me buy a console. Cause as i said earlier there are still a lot of games on Xbox that still isn’t on PS, YET. They will likely come but i could say the same for PC over PS5. Most of the PS5 titles from Sony are on PC and the ones that aren’t are coming. So there’s many reason to pick a place to play. But exclusives for me just isn’t as big of a thing for me as i know PS and Xbox are both putting there games another places.

In closing let me ask you if some day all the PS games are on Steam and some come to NIntendo Switch and Xbox console/PC can play steam. Does that make the PS less fun and exciting to you? Or are there other things about the PS platform you like enough to stay playing there?

Wow hate to say it but maybe when they admitted to being creatively bankrupt at the moment for new stories and games he wasn’t kidding. I mean Sony is as boring right now 1st party wise as ever before. All they know to make is a 3rd person action adventure game since PS3 with uncharted and PS4 was mostly that same game and PS5 is likely going to be a lot of the same since all the live service games were canned. This isn’t a good look, i thought the Day’s Gone remaster was stupid but this is really pushing it.

I own all 3 consoles so this don’t effect me as i have played every Halo game. But if this is true i don’t like it all that much for PS only players. I love the idea of less exclusives in the industry. It’s good for the players and really good financially for the dev teams. I want all players regardless of what box or PC they want to play on to have full access. This seems a little half baked if i am understanding it correctly. There was a rumor that Gears 1 ultimate edition would be coming to PS5, i thought that to be odd cause if the collection of all 3 is coming then why not just bring that out to PC, Xbox and PS5. Well maybe this is why, PS gamers get the first game only? I don’t know, i am more in favor of the Xbox and PC approach of games on all devices, but this isn’t what i would want to see for PS only gamers and those great franchises. Again it don’t effect me directly as i love Xbox and have all those games already. But i am always trying to think of the gamer and not the silly flame wars over what box people prefer to use. We all have our reasons for what we like to play on.

I’ll be trying it out on GP before I decide if I want to buy it or not. I am sure it will be good. But i don’t like games that have flying in them. Not sure why. Not like it’s a bad thing, it just don’t suite my play style. Every thing else looks amazing. I almost got a 5080 GPU this weekend. I am sure this game on a high end PC would look stunning. I.D always scales their games near perfectly for the hardware it’s running on.

@Boxmonkey i am in the process of switching to PC, well i will keep my Xbox hooked up to the TV. But all i use my PS console for is a few exclusive’s and those all come to PC in the end anyways. PC gaming before Steam was a hard no for me but after learning how pro gamer Steam is, it is on my radar, i almost had a 5080 GPU this afternoon but it sold before i could add it to cart.

@1UP-HUSKY Last of US had a remaster on PS4 and that didn’t stop a PS5 version. I was being silly as i don’t think it’s really that. But with the way we have gotten remasters of games that don’t really need remastered I’d say never say never.

I dated this girl for a short amount of time just last year after i got single from a long relationship and her son was 9 and all he talked about was building a PC to play Fortnite and Minecraft so he could get better fps. I was like man when i was 9 all i cared about mainly was Mario on Nintendo consoles. I mentioned my long relationship here cause she had a girl around 10 at the time and of course i have a PS5, Series X and Switch Oled hooked up to a LG Oled with $3,000 dollar worth of Sonos surround sound and she would play all her games on iPad and iPhone. She asked for a switch so i got her a Lite and she played it maybe 10 times or less and went right back to mobile. So there is something to be said about the younger crowd. MS claims it’s everything is a Xbox and your saves carry from Console, PC Mobile and cloud will be popular in time with newer players and I think Sony will go that way in time if it catches on with the upcoming gamers. The only people i see really passionate about consoles that they fight to their last breathe over is older “adults”:. You tell a younger kid what platform you play on and they are like cool. They don’t try and shame you for liking a brand. This article surely doesn't;t tickle the fancy for those in denial gaming is changing again with newer players coming in.

A remaster of the PS4 Uncharted title? I mean hey why not. No one asked for Day’s Gone to get a remaster. Just saying!

@Lowdefal Japan is still primarily a physical market in all media.

Not from what I read, maybe on Switch, but the Mobile market and PC gaming market is exploding in Japan and PC’s and phones have no physical media. PC gaming is on fire at the moment world wide only further driving digital sales.

I might make this game my first ever PS title i buy and play on Steam. I am looking forward to learning more about it and seeing some gameplay. I am sure it’s going to be good.

Good to hear, just make sure to release the games on hardware that can handle it and they are set. Excited to see what they bring out next.

@Coffeeglitch yeah you make a great point as we have seen many times before a game sells well on paper but doesn’t bring back enough money to make it worth its investment. Sony struggled with that a lot. It’s why you seen so many bundles. Spider-man 2 and GOW and Horizon. They had to add that into the console and charge an extra $50 to make those studios back some money.

@Ralizah i agree with you 100%. I think it’s bad for the overall industry that Fortnite and COD maybe a sport title is all people are really buying. It’s hard for us a gamers to ask for big titles when there are only so many of us that will buy it and end up losing the studio money. I agree with you so much. It’s not a good thing. I don’ even play Fortnite but if i did i would take a break to play other great titles. I know a lot of people make fun of Gamepass or PSN plus. But the truth is it may be of great benefit to us for those services to grow large so they can cut big enough checks to studios to make games we would like to play. Otherwise we might have to see smaller games which i don’t think it a bad thing. I don’t play assassins Creed but i am happy to see it selling and it’s no secret to anyone on here i play my Xbox 4X more than my PS due to liking the off set controller better than Sony’s offering but i don’t like to see Concord or other games fail to the levels that hurt that brand or company to the likes of which we have seen this generation. We have a lot to iron out before the next gen starts and i truly want to see all creative teams be supported and get to play their games. Time will tell of course but again just wait until GTA 6 comes out, my goodness what a shadow that title will cast over anyone not named Rockstar. Outside of COD, Fortnite, Minecraft and Mario kart 9 of course haha

@Ralizah the issue is those games are where players are at daily and spending money on. It’s hard to have 15 Fortnite’s in the world. Everyone is chasing that money but also just that attention for their game. When GTA 6 comes out it will eat such a large sum of money and players time away from the rest of the industry it is going to be insane. Kind of reminds me of when WOW came out. It was what 7 out of 10 PC gamers at the time were playing the other 3 were on Counter Strike. Look at PS and Xbox’s top 10 played games list every month they are the same games minus 1-2 or some are just in different order. The exclusives and Japanese games aren’t carry the weight like some would like to believe it.

For the record i like all games if they are good, so i am not poo pooing on Japanese games. 😀

@AhmadSumadi i never really looked into it. I seen it and just skipped by it. It don’t effect me, i live in the USA not Japan. But i thought it was interesting. Not sure Assassin’s Creed sell’s that much over there anyway does it? I mean maybe on Switch or PC. Which is the most popular gaming devices in Japan now.

@AhmadSumadi in fairness i did read that Japanese government was planning to meet and discuss banning the sale of Assassin’s Creed Shadow’s in Japan. I since haven’t heard anything more on it but it was at least in discussion state.

@Lowdefal likely, and i did love Astro Bot. Such a fun game. Would love to see more of it in future.

I get some are saying western games have some struggles. Sure i can buy that. But GTA 6 and COD along with Fortnite run the industry. So much so most company’s don’t even want to launch their games near it. USA video games are still the most played world wide games. Some teams need to get better for sure. But it’s not as if western games aren’t still the most played maybe outside of Nintendo. Cause Nintendo crushes everyone in sales outside of many RockStar and Minecraft, COD.

@sanderson72 Perhaps Sony should set up a Studio in Japan - no idea what they could call it...

How about Nintendo’s little brother. Cause Nintendo CRUSHES Sony in Japan. Remember sales matter, not the fun you have with a product only if it sales a lot and Nintendo Dog Walks Sony in Japan, so much so Sony closed it all up and headed West.

As someone that only uses a PS console for a few exclusive games. This gen has been a bust for me. Sure i had some fun with PS5. But i am in the process of saving up to build a killer PC and of course throw in a Switch 2 and i will be covered. I’ll play Sony games on Steam with a controller i like more and call it a day. They will still get some of my money, but i don’t need a PS console for 1-2 releases a year they claim they will be on going forward. Plus their live service push as people call it isn’t a push they have said they are continuing live service efforts. So those will come day and date to Steam. For now i will keep my PS5 unless someone wants to buy it all and i can use that money for my GPU/CPU combo.

@Boxmonkey I don’t agree that PS is selling well cause Xbox is struggling. Sony has always sold a ton of hardware. Well outside of handheld. However Xbox’s hybrid PC console under the tv will allow younger kids and adults a great entry point into a non closed box. Given them an open PC like platform. With that taste maybe in a few year they build a PC and carry all those games over with them. Along for the ride is all their game saves etc etc. locked down boxes in 10 years will get an ugly eye from younger gamers. I am looking forward to PC and under the tv PC/console hybrids in the upcoming future.

@Northern_munkey yeah i have read into it a lot. I’ll have to remind myself to wishlist it on Series X and give it a try. I watch it played some on YouTube and it looks really good. I can’t wait for the 2nd expansion for D4 and i hope the rumor of Paladin as the next class is true. I’d like to play with Sword and Shield.

@EfYI actually GP is profitable but it’s not enough is the problem. Throw in Xbox shrinking as a platform and looking to grow and there is the multi platform approach. Sony on PC show how little games are making back in return no matter the size of the platform when dev cost is as high as it is. Only Nintendo seems to budget right these days.

@SystemAddict Ray tracing lighting on a game like S Cell would look amazing and be useful for stealth. It wouldn’t sell Assassin’s Creed numbers i don’t think. But it would still be a profitable game for Ubisoft if made well.

@Northern_munkey im still playing as well. Never did try POE. Hear a lot of good things about it tho of course.

@Northern_munkey Thats why i like subscription services, i can play new games day and date and if i like them i can buy them digitally a year or later down the road for cheap and replay them often times with added content and better features. I’ve played a lot on GP this year alone that was really good and i will add to my digital library in time. Doom is next up on GP for me. I did however buy Diablo 4 full price as i knew i would play over a 1000 hours of it. You still playing any D4? Or did it grow old on ya?

Makes me wonder if some subbed to Ubisoft’s service to try this out.

Now make a great Splinter Cell game and a smaller sized Rayman that don’t cost much to make and Ubisoft could start to claw it’s way back.

@LogicStrikesAgain by aligning with PC, is Sony not allowed to then also pivot since Xbox is still their main competitor.

Sony is more than entitled to leave money on the table. However to your point. Xbox is now a PC, so Sony will have to see what others allow and not allow on Steams storefront. Not saying you but a lot of people on here where haha and hehe about the console war is over and it is. MS know’s the PS brand is the bigger world wide brand, there is little to no reason in making another Series X against PS6. However the PC market crushes the console market in size world wide and that is MS’s new play. Xbox in name might be a “competitor” to PS but in the new Xbox hardware it is an ally cause it’s another PC storefront that PS already uses to sell more games. All MS is doing is changing the Xbox to a WIN32 code infrastructure. The same thing devs use for PC.

To your point of what best benefits Sony’s business, before they worry about Steam and what that does to their business, how about not making Concord and cancelling a dozen games this gen. Get that out of the way so we have better games on PS5 and PS6, then worry about if Steam on Xbox is a thing or not. However i do not see anyone not still enjoying the PS brand cause a Xbox PC under your TV can play Spider-Man. That makes no sense. I am not selling my PS5 cause Horizon is on Steam no more than i am selling my Series X cause Gears of War E-day will be on PS5. Most on here care far more about their agendas they like to spam the comment sections on than the brand and games themselves is the real issue here. Real gamers would say more games on more devices for player choice is a good thing.

@breakneck Also, only Nintendo is allowed to do exclusives and have it be welcome. Sony has to copy every attempt of MS disruption because games media is stupid.

Let me fix this for you it should read only Nintendo does exclusives. Sony don’t have as many exclusives as they come to steam. Last i checked Mario Kart 8 isn’t on Steam and neither is Zelda. However i can play many many PS “exclusives” right now on Steam.

@GymratAmarillo to your point and i am asking you and everyone reading this, are you going to stop buying a PS cause Spider-Man is on Steam? Will you buy a Xbox and not a PS6 cause Spider-Man is Steam and Steam is now on the Xbox Console and Handheld PC device? Without your answers i will say NO! So this won’t kill the PS brand and console sales. It will fund more games for Sony as they will have more money coming in. Exclusives don’t sell hardware for Sony like many on here think or been told. PS4 was outselling Xbox One 3-1 out the gate due to MS’s policies and E3 showing. PS4 didn’t even have note worthy exclusives in its first 2-3 years and the sales gap was huge. Many players buy a console for features, Price, controller and friends list before we get to exclusive games. Nintendo that’s another story, their IP’s are the most played and bought exclusives in the world. Sony and MS share the same played top 10 games minus like 1-2 games. Exclusives aren’t the biggest driving force of the PS. It’s a factor but it’s not the number 1 or even 2 thing i hear causal players say they buy a console for and the numbers and evidence show that. Steam on Xbox would not hurt the PS brand. If anything it would give them more revenue and have more eyes on their games which can be seen as a good thing and not bad.

When Sony uses the PC platform as a 3rd party publisher which is what it is doing, those games are no longer exclusive, they are on another platform, they then get to choose which PC Boxes can play the games? Yet somehow some see that as ok, but then also fight the fight that buying digital games is bad cause the studios can control your purchases on if and when and how you can play them? I have to be missing something here, thankfully for me the comment section will tell me how it’s ok for Sony to control digital purchases on a storefront they don’t own, while also acting like Sony still has exclusives in the first place which they don’t as they bring games to the PC. Wild times we live in. Wild times.

@themightyant oh my apologies, i didn’t mean assassin’s creed i meant any game. Insert any game into my comment and it applies.

Not a bad Start for a game the Japanese government discussed banning sales of in their country.

@themightyant When did gamers start wanting games to fail?

The moment the said game wasn’t on their platform of choice. Come on you been around long enough to know gamers want to see games and brands fail. They say it online all the time. Lately it get’s even more lame as PS gamers are happy to see the failure of live service games on their own platform in hopes it will get them more single player games that don’t make enough money for Sony to be overly interested in making these days. Sorry for the bad news i just like to answer questions i know the answer to.

@NapoleonDynamite thats one part of it. But why does Sony need Steam with 75 million consoles sold and a service that don’t have day and date games? You got Sony management saying they want their games on more platforms. Could it be console players don’t make enough money for either brand no matter who many consoles sold. Cause we know by the top played charts for both consoles that 80% of their player bases are playing COD, FIFA, Fortnite or Minecraft and very little else.

@nomither6 while you would think that would be the dumber thing said on this site. It actually comes in at number 2 behind…. Wait for it………

PC gamers don’t buy games!!! THERE IT IS.

Meanwhile Monster Hunter sold more on PC than all other platforms combined. HD2 was carried by PC and PC out gains all other platforms combined for Capcom software sales. And yet with just those few examples you will see things on here like Xbox has no games and PC players don’t buy games.

@Link41x right! I am in the process of saving up for a CPU and GPU and building my first high end PC. Once i do that i am selling my PS5 and PC will be my PS. I would buy Astro bot again on Steam.

@breakneck yeah crazy to think gaming money is just peanuts compared to tech and business needs. Not to say gaming isn’t a lot of money. It is. I just want to see more good games come out as this generation started off a little slow for me. It’s starting to get good now. Hope there’s plenty for you to play and enjoy.

GTA 6 will sell some Pro’s but again that price point at what you get is debatable. Not for me as this hobby i have enough income to cover. But for mainstream players on a tighter budget assassin’s Creed won’t push many units of Pro. If GTA 6 knocks it out of the park, that could. I held back on the Pro even tho i did want one. However i am looking to build a high end PC rig as that will be my PS device going forward. Throw a Xbox downstairs on the larger tv and get a Swtich 2 for playing in bed and that will set me up for the future. Sony could bleed my money dry if they had off set sticks on their controller. But those thumb sticks placements are TRASH!

@Ken_Kaniff it’s all about engagement numbers for the investors meetings at MS. Look at GP on Xbox, they have a 3 month span of some really good titles. So add that alongside GTA 6 coming out sometime in the back half of the year and you better give these titles a chance at being played as GTA 6 will shut down the industry for a few months or more. For causal players GTA 6 will shut down other games for over a year.

@Rich33 i want to see more games really use the Pro to show it off, which i think some will. The main game that will get people excited for Pro will be GTA 6. Cause if that can do this much a difference with the graphics that will be insane. Granted the game will run 30fps this generation. These CPU’s in PS5 and Series X can’t run a CPU heavy game like GTA 6 at 60. But likely PS6 and the next Xbox will. It pains me to say i have no faith i will ever get my 60 fps patch for RDR2. I kind of gave up on it haha

@Rich33 yeah i agree with you and the great points you made. 60 fps and high quality graphics are just so hard on console due to the CPU being so underpowered. Now i expect Sony and MS are working on getting better CPU’s in their next gen hardware due to how loudly console players have been about 60fps being the minimum fps they want. AI tech will help some with that as well.

Assassin’s Creed isn’t my game, i mean it’s ok and if they were smaller titles in their next gen 30 hour range i would give them a play but i do not like it enough to do 80-100 hours. I seen where cut scenes and hub area were 30. I had a feeling that might throw some people off. You could wait for a patch and let’s be honest in less than a year this game will be $45 bucks on sale. They always are.

Well thats one reason to buy your game physical i suppose. When they hard flop they are worth 10X what you paid.

Love the name, not so much the logo. But that don’t matter much. Let’s hope they put out a great first game to build some momentum. Sony needs some games to hit and start making some money. To many cancelled games in the last year. Am i just being nervous or should we be concerned for Wolverine. It’s been 3-3.5 years since that reveal trailer and we have seen nothing. No i am not including the insomniac leak.

@OldGamer999 yeah even on YouTube it looked amazing so i can only imagine what it really looks like. Pro could really start cooking here if Devs put in this much work. Plus when PSSR goes away for FSR 4 things should get even better. While i do wish Sony could have gotten the Pro out for $600 it’s still a nice upgrade over base model.

@OldGamer999 yeah for sure. Lots of ray tracing effects would be my guess. That seems to be the edge the Pro has on the base. I am guessing Sony will show Ghost off a lot more come June.

For all those that said ray tracing is just a resource hog and doesn’t add much visual improvement. This should show you that indeed ray tracing is a big leap forward in visuals and atmosphere. Lighting is making a big difference here and i am happy to see it. That is an area PS6 can greatly expand on and bring life like worlds to games. Color me impressed and that isn’t easily done this generation, now just wait for GTA 6 on Pro. That is going to be the one that makes players pay more attention to Pro.

@StylesT laptop CPU’s and GPU’s are a little different experience on PC vs the full desktop GPU’s. So you are right in saying you might not notice a huge difference. But if you had a 5080 in a desktop it would destroy the Pro in every way possible. I think i am going to PC desktop at some point. Steam is just to good to miss out on for me.

@DennisReynolds Dennis i am a man of my word when i say i keep receipts. I see what everyone say’s and often times upset them when i call upon those receipts. With that said, it’s time for me to eat some crow. I said a $700 dollar upgrade isn’t something we should have to zoom in at 200-400X. I said that it looked like Dev’s were being lazy with the Pro cause dollars and time is limited and they might not support it in big ways due to it being the lower install sku. Well if this is what we will be seeing going forward. I am buying a Pro, that is NIGHT and DAY different. No need to zoom in on that. I am impressed and again proven wrong in the ways i wanted to be wrong about. I knew the power in the Pro was more than what we were seeing. Likely before the end of summer i will get a Pro. I just need to see more games for it and some that of course i want to play as Assassin’s Creed isn’t my thing.

@themightyant wow whatever it is it is really eye opening to what the pro can do. I am very impressed. It makes the base PS5 look like a PS4. I mean no one can look at the side by side and say thats not a HUGE upgrade. Now if thats worth $700 dollars or not thats subjective. Money is different to all people. But they keep this up and i am buying a Pro.