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Hopefully the low sales will encourage Sony to patch it for PC usage. Then that would be an excellent deal/value.

@Neverwild That's much too general of a statement. Many individuals have issues with large companies like MS buying studios out directly to secure exclusives. While I far prefer the Xbox platform nowadays, I am very wary of these large buyouts. If Sony buys out Square (whom I typically can't stand 90% of their games but that's just me) I will not be jumping for joy, nor was I at MS buying Bethesda (and seemingly Activision).

@Bondi_Surfer Agreed about Burnout Paradise at the time. Most racers don't need to be open world. Modern game design is obsessed with this.

I would say just make some changes for each individual version and tailor it to the hardware it's being made for. There's still millions of players combined using Switches, PS4s and Xbones.

@nomither6 You sure love the word over-rated a lot. I guarantee if it was the Sony Switch, you would love it. In 2017, the Switch was very capable. You're looking at it with 2023 eyes. I remember how absolutely awful the Vita ports of Borderlands 2 and RE Revelations 2 are, but on Switch they played great, as just two examples. Why does the Steamdeck get a free pass when it is "underpowered", compared to a decent gaming laptop, yet Switch is somehow so terrible and awful, deserving no credit for any of its capabilities?

Wasn't the Wii U already bare-bones in terms of library and features? So then how is the Switch also barebones? Wasn't the Wii U basically a living room DS conceptually, a handheld you claim to love? The DS too was also "underpowered" at the time, yet it's one of the greatest, coolest handhelds ever.

Your logic makes no sense.

Now you're arguing personal preferences between devices. Controller shape, library, button layout, etc... You're not right or wrong, it's just individual preference. Nothing here is constructive at all.

@nomither6 You can doubt all you want, but while the Vita was a complete embarrassment from a 1st party software perspective, the Switch was everything and more than Sony was ever able to deliver on.
PSP, meh, I never owned one. Granted it did a lot of cool stuff at the time, but I personally never found the games appealing enough, and why buy a watered down port with 1 analog stick, when the PS2 version was the full experience. And those memory sticks...ouch... a pricy problem that plagued both Sony handhelds.

You can thank the existence of the very awesome Steamdeck (its literally the same design as Switch, sans joycons), and the explosion of other powerful, console-quality handhelds, to the proven appeal, incredible software library. smashing sales success, and highly rated consumer reception, to the Switch's existence.

@get2sammyb I meant court case. The legal matter currently going over the purchase of Activision-Blizzard by Microsoft.

@nomither6 The Steamdeck exists BECAUSE of Switch, it's popularity, and what Nintendo did for handheld gaming in general.

Good! Enjoy the L, Sony. This has been a pathetic joke of a lawsuit this entire time.

Also, fire Jim Ryan. Useless, petty exec.

@Deoxyr1bose Konami is only hated so much because they've turned their backs on their classic IPs (and most gaming in general) in recent years.

Now, if gamers want to prove that they themselves are not hypocrites, if Silent Hill 2's remake is really good, shouldn't they put their hatred aside and pick up the game and support it, which in turn would generate profit and show Konami "Oh, people actually want this, let's make more"?

OT: Barring it being a total disaster, inject this into me on day one, please. Can't wait. SH2 is the best. ❤

Finally something I can credit Sony for. I like the fact that at least with some of these retro games like Syphon Filter, you can buy them outright (like the old PS3 store) and not have to rely on a subscription. I should give siphon filter a try as I like spy games, and there's a disturbing lack of them in the modern era.

The addition of the first party trophies is also nice, if you care about those things.

@naruball 3DS is/was a hell of a lot cheaper than a PS5. That says something. A 3DS was borderline impulse-buy. I think little of Sony nowadays (for various reasons); as a company they're insufferable and fandom hypocracy is pure toxicity, but I own it for the desirable exclusives, cause at the end of the day I'm a gamer. Fanboys suck across the board, don't GAF about any of them.

Ugh, you'll lose even more of my business Sony, if you start pushing NFTs hard. 🤮

@Rmg0731 As well as lack of regulations (thanks chump 🍊).

@PlatinumKing If one is a fan, of course. Duh.

@PlatinumKing We haven't had a new 007 game in nearly 11 years. Hitman has been on a steady streek for years, it can spare some time off.

Yet compared to PS3 and 4, 5 has an absolutely abysmal user interface. 🤮 Patch that, Sony.

Finally a reason to attend church, lol. 😂😈

@tselliot XSX and PS5, to be precise. 🧐

Still rocking Sony's arrogance from the PS3 days? 😉

Sony (likely) paying for exclusivity is highly suspect. 🤔

A perfect analogy of capitalism; harm the environment to seek profit, over-produce stuff that is no longer wanted nor profitable, and then don't even donate them for free when no one wants the excess, just shove it underground, consequences be damned. Its not even these toys specifically, it's the entire mindset that leads to this waste. Shameful to all involved.

@zebric21 Overpay? Are you serious? That's your best counter to me spending my own money on things I like? I buy these devices because I'm a gamer, genius. Shocking revelation, I'm sure. 🙃

If anything, your post reeks of jealousy. Or you think everything else is beneath Emperor God King PlayStation. Or both. Whatever. 😂

@zebric21 LOL, all platforms are my platforms. Playing Metroid Dread on Switch, GoldenEye on Xbox and Metro Exodus on PS5. I'm not a fanboy. 😉

Also, last I checked, Xbox has plenty of so-called "AAA" titles. I don't know what sadder, your ignorance or that you still use that antiquated, subjective, meaningless descriptor. 😂

Couldn't give less of a **** about this clown, but anything new related to Vice City is worth investigating. I hope we get a complete remake one day.

I've been dying to see for years the money Sony has paid for exclusive games and other content deals. Remember Soul Caliber 3 being a PS2 exclusive, despite 2 selling best on Gamecube?

Then there's the COD exclusive stuff.

Edit: Street Fighter 5, same deal. Randomly (console) exclusive for seemingly no reason.

FF16 being exclusive has been incredibly suspect since day 1, as well as Silent Hill 2's ambiguous situation at the moment.

Sony has a lot of secrets to answer for. They have a stellar track record of seemingly trying to buy exclusive content. Pushsquare, its hyper-partisan cringworthy staff, and the vocal hardcore base here say nothing, yet when M$ does it, suddenly it's evil, terrible and wrong? GMAFB. And keep in mind, I generally dislike massive corporate takeovers, but if its going to happen, at least apply a consistent ideological position, regardless of who's acting suspect.

@riceNpea "As for hate, that's in your head."

Delusion is in yours. 😳

@riceNpea Based on what I've read here for years, not at all. 😜

@riceNpea @sanderson72

Or the fact that historically, Xbox has never done well in Japan, because it doesn't appeal to most Japanese. GamePass didn't exist for the first 2 generations.

Keep hating on GP, salty Sony fans. GP is great for the gamer. 💧🍷😉

There's just so little worthwhile with Sony anymore. Just give me Silent Hill 2 and a new Uncharted or TLOU 3.

@TheDudeElDuderino Seriously, gtf over yourself. Controllers are subjective.

I wish I liked Twisted Metal, it's just that Vigilante 8 was so much better gameplay-wise.

@Green-Bandit Haha, thanks again for that, Bandit. I saw your previous message at me a couple weeks ago touching on a somewhat similarly-related topic. XD
I'm sure Starfield will do well, but as it's a 1st party release, it is listed as a GP title. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about how GP is effecting sales of certain games. I admit I recently used GP to complete both Plague Tale Requiem and As Dusk Falls (both excellent games, btw) during my 1-month sub.
It's perfectly fair to report on the facts as they are, although why the Eff PushSquare is reporting this Xbox story, as it has nothing to do with Sony at all, really reeks of pettiness and insecurity on both PS's staff part, and on the part of a large chunk of the PS users here (which as you say, the majority likely don't even own an Xbox, yet crap on it constantly). GP is excellent for the end user, so for however long it lasts, I'm going to say to everyone; enjoy it. i've got plenty of my own criticisms of Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo/Switch, but as I too own all 3, and all 3 give me different things I enjoy, I want all 3 brands to perform well. I also like seeing some type of uniqueness between them as well, which is becoming more of a rarity with each new generation. Xbox has GP/Bethesda, Sony has TLoU, Marvel and deep connections to Japanese studios, and Nintendo has their incredible IP catalogue like Zelda and Metroid plus their innovative hardware designs. There's enough there from all 3 for one to appreciate their strengths, rather than only focusing on their negatives and take the "I dont own it so I have to bash it" tribalism mentality.

@NEStalgia PushSquare is literally Sony Defense Force. There's nothing unique about any of these sites. PXB hasn't posted the article seemingly confirming Gamepass has hurt sales of certain games. i've been here for years and all 3 of these sites are biased in some way, both staff and users.

@Ken_Kaniff Agreed, and I'm still waiting for something new and exciting from them that doesn't require an accessory costing MORE than the base device.

@Hundred_Hand_Slap As if millions of poutines suddenly cried out on terror, then were suddenly silenced by a wave of maple bacon-flavoured gravy.

@Hundred_Hand_Slap Slimy Konami being slimy *****. 🍁

Absolutely phenomenal game. Don't skip it if you enjoy quirky titles like this! 😃

@nomither6

Legal boilerplate aside, I can't think of one physical game that has been disabled from booting. That's what I was pointing out. One side is theory, the other is putting it into practice.

There's no example (yet) of this happening. 🤔 So, physical buyers are still a bit safer.

@nomither6 You have an example of this being done?

@nomither6 No, as not all games need an online check to play. Switch especially is nearly immune to such a problem.

Physical FTW. 🦕

@NomNom I meant new as in newly promoted into a new position. Sorry that that wasn't clear.

@Nancyboy Exactly why my comment was a criticism of this guy and his infinite growth mindset. It's ridiculous.
Also, corporations exist for both making products AND making money. Don't pretend the latter isn't a reason that many start companies.

@nessisonett 👏 👏 👏 Exactly what I was thinking! This new exec is gonna be in for a rude awakening!

@Green-Bandit I was a horrible fanboy during the GC/PS2/Xbox days (I was also a stupid teenager at the time XD), so seeing how absolutely nothing has changed amongst fans, whereas company executives themselves have (mostly) nothing but positive things to say to their rivals when a new 1st party release does really well for example, it saddens me much of that hasn't brushed off on the community of players.
I too have both systems, a Switch and a gaming laptop, but even if i didn't, hating on rival system titles or services is beyond ridiculous and irrational. The psychology behind it baffles me.

@Fight_Teza_Fight Those are some interesting (and not that surprising) figures. Thanks for posting those. Yeah definitely the Netflix analogy is a fair comparison (Netflix themselves have their own issues), I was thinking that but didn't mention it in my previous reply, lol. 2023 is looking better, which will be interesting to see if it raises the hardware revenue, which was down despite robust sales.

@Imani You do realize that the tech sector has had layoffs across the board recently, right? Amazon, Google, Meta, Shopify, hell even PlayStation laid off 90 people last year. https://www.gameinformer.com/2022/04/04/playstation-reportedly-lays-off-nearly-90-employees-in-north-american-offices-due-to

The sensible (non-fanboy) among us, we get it, it's pushsquare. Xbox bad cause Xbox bad. Great analysis... >_>

@Fight_Teza_Fight

Again, as Gamepass (and Sony's clone service) is still a *relatively new business model, we can't say definitively what the numbers are, as that data is AFAIK all internal.

"MS can get away with deals like this because the exposure of these games enhances sales on other platforms." Hmm, I'd need some data on that claim. Fanboys aside, as they don't care what Microsoft is doing or offering on GP, I guess you're suggesting word of mouth and other social media exposure from others using GP will raise awareness? That's certainly possible, as there's a lot of popular streamers out there.

There's still plenty of ways this industry makes money, commonly through DLC, service games and tons of other cosmetic trinkets and crap like that. I think I made it quite clear that there's questionable aspects of these subscription models, and I always prefer to buy something outright, but there is room for both models to co-exist.

As an aside, the various fanboys around here in the comments really need to lighten up a bit, jeez..

@Fight_Teza_Fight

That 80% is for physical sales. We don't know what the digital numbers are yet. Plus I believe that's only for the UK?

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/dead-space-is-no1-but-launch-sales-lower-than-the-callisto-protocol-uk-boxed-charts

Also, it remains to be seen how "sustainable" gamepass is. While I prefer to buy things outright and I don't want a total takeover of rental programs, I was able to complete Plague Tale Requiem and As Dusk Falls with my recent 1-month sub, so it's a great feature of Xbox.

So, what's that mystery game then? Another studio could easily take over development of Uncharted.