PS Plus Premium's Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror and Ape Academy 2 Have Trophies

As they all should. Rather than celebrating these we should be gently shaming those who didn’t bother adding the additional challenges. I understand it is not technically stipulated by Sony, but simply out of respect for players it should go without saying.

Typical that the two games I'm genuinely interested in when it comes to PS Plus Premium classics are two games that dont have trophies, those being RE1 and RR4. It's a shame but expected being 3rd party no trophies. It's still nice to have them playable on a PS5 but I also already own them both physically for my actual PS1 console and them both having trophies on PS5 would have been something special. Still hoping Capcom do a release of the RE PS1 originals but they like to ignore those as if they don't exist anymore, like they never even happened

@Beerheadgamer82
Capcom don’t care about trophies at all. Even Resi Village in VR has no trophies, and many people were convinced to buy an expensive headset, in part, for that game. Shocking.

@Bentleyma
They / Sony sold it in the VR2 section of the store as a VR game and didn’t tell anyone they wouldn’t include trophies. Still haven’t. I have no interest in playing the flat version. If I did I would have bought it long before they released it in the VR section, and heavily promoted it at the headset’s launch.

I would be very happy to pay a £20 upgrade fee if they would make it as feature rich as the flat version. Or they could just let people know in the listing at least that it isn’t.

@thefourfoldroot1 it's usually paid story expansions that get the extra trophies. With RE8VR being a free update and virtually the same game as the standard version but now in VR, it would be the same trophies as the standard version is cause no new story added in the VR version. For example the paid story expansions for RE7 got new trophies added

@Beerheadgamer82
Sure, I don’t care about new trophies as I’ve never played the game flat before. Would have been nice to be able to go for the standard trophies of the standard game, and not be locked out of the trophy campaign just because I want to play it in VR. No reason not to let us. The Resi7 you mentioned let us get the trophies.

@get2sammyb
Probably good. Although I have so many fully featured games with full trophy campaigns that I can’t see myself playing a game lacking this. Not unless I miraculously manage to finish my backlog.

@thefourfoldroot1 so the VR version of RE8 doesn't let you earn the games standard version of the trophies when in VR. That's so weird. I don't have PSVR2 so I wouldn't know this ha

@Beerheadgamer82
No. It doesn’t. And it doesn’t tell you so before purchase. A crying shame. Very few outlets even dare mention it, including this one, which is why I take the opportunity to vent when even mildly pertinent to the discussion lol.

@thefourfoldroot1 that is very odd but at least the trophies are still there if you wanted to earn them, just not in VR though which does suck a bit

@Beerheadgamer82
Sucks a lot if, like most people who didn’t bother buying it in the years before VR2 released, you have little to no interest playing a horror game in flat arms length mode. Even more if you then buy it with no advertising about the completely absent trophy campaign.

N.i.c.e.syphon filter dark mirror is a amazing game.word up son

@StrawberryWave The Legend of Dragoon is time consuming, so are Wild Arms 1,2. Good luck getting an Albatross in Hot Shots Gold 2 while you're at it.

Finally something I can credit Sony for. I like the fact that at least with some of these retro games like Syphon Filter, you can buy them outright (like the old PS3 store) and not have to rely on a subscription. I should give siphon filter a try as I like spy games, and there's a disturbing lack of them in the modern era.

The addition of the first party trophies is also nice, if you care about those things.

Thank god Sony is putting in the effort for trophies on these classics. Makes me wish Sony made this mandatory. We would get less third party games, but the ones we did get would have trophies.

@thefourfoldroot1 I get ya. Trophies are important, and there should be some specific for the VR version. Trophies outwardly display your mastery of the game, and if a game doesn’t have trophies, I often skip ‘em and play something else. I’ve got a big backlog, and if all else is equal, I’ll play one with trophies.

Is the Syphon Filter game worth playing? Or are the controls and visuals so janky that it’s only fun if you’ve already played them years ago and want to reminisce and wax nostalgic?

@jgrangervikings1
Well, I don’t know about the mastery thing, but then I have no friends to show off too, lol.

It’s more that I like that extra layer of thought, complexity, and challenge, that comes with simultaneously going for the narrative campaign and the trophy campaign. Without the later the game feels a bit light to me, like I’m missing out on content /challenges.

Not to mention that, in this game specifically, it gives more developer given things to do in subsequent playthroughs.

@jgrangervikings1 I've just popped the platinum on Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror and as much as I adore the series, I've got to be honest, it felt very clunky and counter-intuitive to play on PS5.

This was the first of the recently resurrected PSP games I've played on my PS5, however, so it might just be something that's been lost in the transition from handheld to home console. The lack of an alternate DualSense control scheme (or any re-mappable buttons) really lets it down. Of course, the upscale makes everything look better than ever before, as you'd expect, so there's that!

I thoroughly enjoyed revisiting the previous PSone trilogy. They feel way more "at home" on PS5, and subsequently smoother to play (although like I say, I'm a fan of the series, and have been playing those classics on-and-off for the past twenty years, so there's probably a bit of muscle memory helping me out in that regard).