@Hurblyburbly there was no point. Just sharing my opinion as well. You're welcome.
Deathloop doesn't look like anything impressive. Kinda just looks like doom but you can teleport and there's a loop when you die. Kena looks good but i'll have to wait to see more.
@Hurblyburbly you're one person and in the minority so your opinion isn't widely shared and it is indeed jaw-dropping to alot of people. Horizon is objectively better.
as you can see, it may be possible this website isn't very accurate.
I did take my time because I wanted to savor the experience and I had an absolute blast. I don't play 70 hr games like red dead. I feel a game can get dragged out too long if it's that long and I think 20-25 hr games 30 at the most is a great length.
Makes it easier to consider playing again. I also don't mind shorter games like miles.
@Bamila it's not even that short. I went in listening to people like you and was surprised it was as long as it was. Main story for me was 12-16 hours. and collectibles and side quests was 20-25hrs.
@xMightyMatt14x overall I agree with other genres within sony not being as big as god of war etc. I wasn't saying that sony has the best games across the board but in the mainstream. There is no argument they have the most quality and consistent great exclusives more than their competition with nintendo as a close second. I can't speak for every genre because I don't think any one person likes playing every genre.
Definitely not because everyone has different tastes but I stress the majority say they have the best quality exclusives. Definitely not in every genre. Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
@xMightyMatt14x oh i see what you're saying. I can't say sony is the best in all categories because I don't play all categories so I can agree with that bro. when I say the games with the most quality. I don't mean every type of game if you get what i'm saying. I'm saying as far as overall best exclusives(not in all categories but the ones that get talked about the most). They have them and i'm sure nintendo is great with exclusives too but I rarely hear anybody mention their exclusives as being the best but they definitely in second place I think. I agree no studio is the best in all categories.
Ok so I just went to metacritic since you mentioned it and did a little research. So what i've come to understand is that as far as the critics are concerned. They say the last forza that came out was a better than gran Turismo sport but the user score for both is not good with only a little separating them so they both can't be considered on top. Especially when a few years ago gran turismo with it's first 3 entries had over the hightest score than what metacritic has ever gave forza ever. Correct me if i'm wrong. While the last 3 entries have been below the latest entries in forza. You can't say the only fan base that rates gt higher is inside the sony ecosystem. There is obviously going to be the people who have both consoles and you can't count pc because if we're going to compare a sony exclusive with a xbox game that is available on pc also. We cannot count what they say so it really is an even competition. Also forza has released 3 games each for each generation while sony only releases a mainline gran turismo once every gen so we are only counting the mainline forzas. so you can't believe the GT series or forza series is regarded as the top tier, cream of the crop. they are both false and this upcoming games might be the tie breaker. Again not counting what pc says because they more than likely haven't played gran turismo but have played forza. Not even fair competition.
As far as I can see. These are two most popular racing games that are in competition. Can't really say the same about gears being the most popular narrative game xbox has to offer like uncharted or god of war.
I wasn't giving sony credit for potential future platformers. All I was saying is that it looks like they could catch up to nintendo but until then nintendo is king. the difference is that nintendo and sony have proved themselves at providing themselves with consistent top tier exclusives in their respective genres. Bestatha was either hit or miss before xbox bought them and I'm sure most people like me are waiting to see if they can deliver. Xbox doesn't have the same brand trust to deliver non stop greats yet so I can't give them credit yet. If they prove themselves like their competition has, I will change my tune quickly. There is no double standard with me at least.
agreed. multiplayer needs to improve. I'm not too proud to admit it.
@The_New_Butler some people just like behind the scenes stuff. I like it because I get to see all the hard work put into it and makes me love it even more.
@xMightyMatt14x I agree with half of these statements. Obviously everyone has different tastes but an huge majority agree with this statement. the attention to detail, narratives, and quality of gameplay goes to PlayStation i've heard a huge amount of people agree with.
They have a variety of games and people who say "all their games are the same 3rd person whatever" is insane.Their working on providing mutiplats by starting a new studio just for that for this new generation from what i've heard. I personally don't play alot of multiplats and prefer single player but that's good to hear for people who do. What popular multiplat does ms have besides halo?
ratchet and clank is not a platformer from what i've seen. You're thinking of games like astro's playroom which is fantastic btw. They just made the studio that made that game a first party studio so I think they will be able to complete with nintendo soon enough. I disagree with ms having the western rpgs. They bought one studio and until we see them actually release them. It's safe to say that goes to sony.
why is forza regarded as top of the racing lol. from what i've heard it's unrealistic and people prefer gran Turismo. correct me if i'm wrong because I don't know much about the racing games competition. Point is - there are lots of types of games people enjoy and Sony studios are really only masters of a couple of them. Many people also enjoy other game types to change it up and the new reality is other platforms offer better experiences for those tastes.
I still stand by sony studios making the best games and putting the most effort into them. They have variety. people just got to look. I enjoy changing up as well and I think nintendo is great but the reality is the majority of what they have are platformers and xbox doesn't offer anything on their own yet while they are providing all their games on pc.
@Col_McCafferty exactly they can't cry about us having exclusives that have always been exclusives. Microsoft just took the future titles of multiplats off but I personally don't care. Never played a bethesda game anyway. We still have the games with the most quality.
@BrainHacker Sony doesn't have to buy a studio. They already said they just going to build mutiple teams inside of the studios they have which is smarter than just buying everything up because you can. Now what if besteda still can't make games that are good? it will all be for nothing.
@BrainHacker you have no idea what you're talking about. Sony literally said they felt that the ps4 was going to be their last console and that their exclusives saved them basically. Do your research before you decide to spread lies my guy.
@Daveuppercut uncharted 4 is my favorite in the series. The pacing is great and the platforming and story has never been better. Maybe don't look at events like e3 if you want to go in blind. I did that and i'm glad. I was completely blown away. Way better final boss and main villian than any in the series. Lost legacy I felt brought nothing new to the table gameplay wise and that last fight didn't feel as well written as the one in 4.
@BloodNinja Oh ok didn't know that was a battery. Doubt any console(maybe one) has been supported for 10-12 years so I don't think that's a big issue unless emulators or bc is not being made. I don't think sony get rid of bc until a good amount of generations later.
@BrainHacker would it be nice to have all games on one system sure but if that system cost as much as pc. Well I ain't buying! Put yourself into a business shoes. Would you rather go through other systems or have your own console with your own games that you produce. It's just better and I see why many companies want their own platform. I would too. But if I can get the same games anywhere. What incentive do I have to play your console instead of the most powerful which is xbox. What do you think a world without exclusives would be? I'm curious how your mind works.
"Yeah, because when you think about consoles, the first thing that comes into your mind is how this gaming device can play video content for you." You literally said earlier that some people buy consoles to watch tv lol. Going back on your word are we? I'm sure there is just as many asking about 8k tvs for xbox. They do that for everything. proof that ps5 can run native 4k https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/i9jy97/ps5_has_shown_gameplay_running_at_native_4k/
When I say you're done for...I mean you've been proven wrong. Well duh sir it's just video games lol. I realize that nobody likes everything and that includes cinematic games. No ones opinion including yours has any value so try thinking before you speak.
What matters is the majority and the majority loves these games which I'm glad because I get more. Ok? so sony is porting a few old games. Who cares lol. There's more new ones on the way for us anyways so enjoy the ones we played 4 years. You're the one still arguing. I'm just proving you wrong at this point but will you listen? no. it's cringe. Stop.
Someone who really wants a game and buys the system to play that one game? just because you won't doesn't mean lots of others won't. Have some "self-awareness". Calling people dumb just because they do something you don't? WOW. have some "self-awareness". Believe or not some people makes games not because they tryna make a quick buck but because they have a idea. Cory Barlog is one of the many people in sony studios that are actually like this. Sony may be a business but that isn't how they are at all. Yes I do think they care about us. They could pull a cyberpunk and release an unfinished game but no. They say it's coming when it's ready. IDC what you say. Proof sony made a stament saying no outcry? you're so pathetic. You big mad lmbo.
Exclusives will always exist. Stay mad punk. Go enjoy your pc you spent so much money on instead of arguing with someone who's immature lol.
8K support The PS5 console is compatible with 8K displays through HDMI 2.1 support. this is what it says on their website which means it can for stuff like netflix and youtube. 4K-TV gaming Play your favorite PS5 games on your stunning 4K TV. this is what it says also on their website. Same for the new xbox that can support 4k.
They do care about us. They literally just announced ps5 is going to have more EXCLUSIVES than any past generation. lol they didn't say anything about pc which means you're done for. buy a playstation if you want to play their games. simple just like for any other console or pc. I have to buy xbox to play halo and you don't see me complaining. why should you be so high and mighty. lol You pc fanboys crack me up. who cares how the number of sales for exclusives stack up against half of people who are probably just casuals who play call of duty and fornite but still know which console is the best. What can I say. I love quality games. That doesn't mean i'm hardcore. I go where the quality is. You're acting childish by wanting everything to go your way when it never will. Just because they said here's a few of our exclusives doesn't mean they about to go all out for ya'll. forget it. Of course they'll get a few sales here and there but not alot of people will buy a game that's been out for 3-4 years. Hence horizon zero dawn not selling that much compared to ps4 sales. Nintendo is a business as well and wants to make money. Why don't you think their not porting their exclusives there? because they want people to buy their console.
Alot of people bought a ps4 just to play spiderman. You'd be surprised. Then they end up not regretting their purchases because there a pleura of great games on ps. You dumb if you think they would want to wait 3-4 years to MAYBE be able to play the sequel to horizon. I'm happy when they buy the console they made so they can make more money to put into their games and see the console business will never die and can be just as popular as pc so they can put more effort into it.
@BrainHacker this "goofball" thinks you're full of it. why else buy a switch if not for portability one of the few things it's got over ps4 besides exclusives? Nobody buys a weaker console to not play games that are only on that console and use the one thing it's got over ps4. Not putting nintendo down...they still better than xbox and got their own thing going on.
@BloodNinja why would you change that on a system like ps4 that is not supposed to be changed? lol of course it's gonna brick you're not supposed to do it.
@BrainHacker I just answered your question. I wish you would pay attention so I wouldn't keep having to repeat myself. I never said the main reason was exclusives. I said the EXECUTIVE at SONY said they were mostly responsible for the success of ps4. I will never believe you when it comes straight from their mouths. Tell me what the internet says all day. I will not listen to you over Sony themselves. No one knows better about their products than them. They said ps5 will have more exclusives than any previous generation. That's all the proof I need that they weren't lying about that. I never claimed ps gamers only bought a ps to just play a handful of games or did you forget ps are multi-purpose machine too? lol your hilarious man. I literally went back up to see the conversation when we began and I never said that was the main reason why. Go ahead look for yourself. lol you literally said hzd is not selling as well as it did on ps. So your telling me sony has a better chance at hitting 40m on pc? Don't make me laugh. You provided me proof to throw back at you. Thank you for that. If I get the best of the best...I don't mind paying $60 for quality instead of $1 - $5 for gamepass with mediocrity. You get what you pay for lol.
That's what they're doing I see a bunch of comments coming from pc gamers saying they buying a ps5 just to play the sequel to horizon. It's happening whether you're aware or not. I was not aware of the massive outcry for death stranding because all I heard was walking simulator. I didn't think alot cared honestly. Woah woah woah. Don't get me wrong. I care about the devs and the studios in general. They work tirelessly to give us ps fans the best experience possible without bugs. I have massive respect for them and the directors like cory barlog.https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/god-of-war-director-cory-barlog-says-games-need-to-go-up-in-price/ . I rather have price go up than cash grab microtransaction filled messes like cyberpunk. DLCs I agree should be in the game and that's another reason why god of war is great to me. Everything that comes in that game is there day one.
You clearly won't answer my question because you have no answer because you know i'm right. My answer is the same reason why there is huge amount of pc gamers and the best selling game is only 40 million copies. Take that as you will but nothing will appeal to everybody especially not all of the ps4 owners so stop kidding yourself with 20 million is low. 20 million made Sony half a billion dollars each. Literally you keep saying the same thing expecting me to change my answer.
I've been saying that exclusives have alot to do with Sony success not just whatever you saying. Sony will give you guys some of the exclusives we played 3 years ago. That's it lol. So just because Epic gave Sony a deal that means every exclusive is coming to pc huh? lol jeez how desperate are you. Sony is NOT going to give you their biggest franchises like gow for another 3-4 years. That would be stupid because then alot of people would go to pc. Sure they'll give you their leftovers after we experienced them 5 years ago. Death stranding, dbh, heavy rain, beyond two souls are all non ps studios and timed exclusives. Do your reseach bruh.
microtransaction are gross and are for the greedy studios to charge $70 games then try to make you spend even more money for something that should be free. Don't even try to say it's for devs. It's for the company to ring you dry after charging full price. Some companies put ADS in their games and there is no excuse for any of it. I will not accept it no matter how much they make. I don't care.
Most DLCs nobody buys unless multiplayer.They have a better chance of surviving with exclusives than without. Look at xbox surviving only by old mediocre games on gamepass that aren't quality at all. I agree right now there are more who play multiplayer but I have a feeling that's about to change in the near future. Single player games are more popular than ever and get more popular by the day. Most multiplayer games are played by children anyway like fornite. that game is trash but kids like it so they can play with their friends.
@BrainHacker Do you believe everything on the internet especially when it isn't coming from Sony themselves. I told you what Sony said but whatever. You'd rather believe random guy on the internet than them.
DLCs and microtransactions are what's wrong with the industry now. I rather have the full game day one without having to be charged for upgrades for something that should be free.
Got you. I never said anything about Pc exclusives. I said pc GAME IN GENERAL. Which means it's worse for you guys but you probably won't get it because it appears you don't know how to do math.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say I have business rights or suggest I did delusional fanboy. I'm not deflecting anything. I never said exclusives was the only reason why people buy consoles. I said GAMES IN GENERAL ARE THE REASON 😂😂. Where's your proof spiderman is the best selling exclusives. They haven't released gow sales numbers in a while. It could have surpassed it now. Even if it is that is still are large amount of people who buy exclusives compared to games general on pc. 1.5b players and only 40 million for the best selling lol😂😂. That's not even close to 115m at all and IT'S ON PC. You look foolish.
I go where the best games are. the ones made with real passion to give us the best product and it just happens to be sony. Third party exist for multiplayer across all consoles among other things. I play some but none of them have the quality like first party. Stop embarrassing yourself bro. Obviously sony playing ya'll and i'm all for it but don't act like you can't play a playstation just because muh performance.
@Spyroescape Ok...thanks for that wildly inaccurate and out of nowhere assumption lol. I know Sony said that but if you think it's gonna be any game that hasn't been out for 3+yrs you are kidding yourself. They testing the waters and seeing if they have a market and if they don't they'll pull out. Sony is playing ya'll. You say you're not entitled huh this seems like a entitled thing to say "I have a PS4 but its a dust bunny. Don't use it and most likely won't ever even though I bought a few exclusives. Would much rather play them on PC where I don't give up performance." This makes you look so elitist and the worst part is you don't even realize it. I could care less about them coming to pc because ik ya'll won't be getting it day 1 and some will run out of patience lol.
Ok switch owners like portable GAMES. you proved my point...switch isn't powerful at all. It always come back to games for most people who buy GAME systems. I'm sure there is a very small minority buy it to watch netflix instead of getting a fire tv that cost $100 instead of $500 but most aren't that dumb lol. 😂😂 I literally said it was about more than performance and about games including exclusives. LISTEN😂 .
@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L Of course 3yr+ old games can be sold. I'm not saying they can't but pc gamers feeling entitled about it is what I can't stand. They basically saying what you guys play are too beneath me so I'll wait to play it at a better performance than you and never buy a PlayStation. But I get what Sony is doing and it's a smart strategy.
@BrainHacker Our as in the ps4 exclusives since I play on ps. lol like I said If I want to play master chief whatever for a affordable price. I buy an xbox. If I want to play mario games. I buy a switch. IF YOU want to play god of war or spiderman. Buy a playstation forget about your performance. if i want pc exclusives. I will buy a pc. Stop being entitled.
You're so delusional lol. Nobody is loyal to any brand buddy. Gamers go to the brand that has the best games. It's always been about the GAMES. No one cares about how powerful a pc or xbox is. Believe what you want to believe meanwhile xbox last gen sold 40 million while ps sold 115 million and the fact you think it's just because of brand is ridiculous. I'll believe people that actually are at the company than you thank you. You said there was 1.5b (which isn't accurate) pc gamers so explain to me why the best selling pc games sells 42 million out of that lol? It's a good indication that games is not the main reason why gamers buy PCs.
I'll wait while you just embarrass yourself some more. Another question tell me how spiderman is the best selling superhero game of all time on ONE console while batman games are available everywhere including pc? get out of here man. You haven't the slightest of what you're talking about and is probably just repeating what you heard from pc or xbox fanboys. Xbox owners are buying PS consoles because they have more exclusives. Hence why ps5 has twice amount of sales of xbox right now.
@BrainHacker Wow lol you're mad now. I never said I owned anything. I only mention Sony buddy. I heard what the producer said and I don't really care. He doesn't even work there anymore. I don't need to buy an Xbox because all of their games will come to PC. HZD is not even in the top seller at Steam anymore, so you're excuse is pure BS. You just don't want to believe that majority of PC gamers doesn't care about PS exclusives like you initially thought.
I wasn't talking about you buying an xbox. I was address the "majority" of people you say who don't want exclusives. Xbox is the more powerful system so why do they buy playstations if not for the exclusives lol. I don't care how popular hzd is on pc. I don't play on pc. I'm telling you Sony is testing the waters and if it doesn't sell then they'll pull out. It's strategy. Why I keep see so many pc guys talking about the exclusives then if they don't care? They will buy a console instead of playing the waiting game after they get a taste. I've seen loads of people say this already. Stop being naïve. So you say they buy a $2000 pc for games but don't want to spend a mere(to them) $500 for a console with exclusives and affordability? You crazy. Maybe you rich but majority ain't.
@BrainHacker I see most caving in this generation especially for horizon forbidden west because they want to experience it as soon as possible after having a taste with the first one and for the other upcoming exclusives. I think sony did things very smart. Don't forget PS5 is the fastest selling console of all time. If not mostly for exclusives. Why not buy an xbox which I keep hearing you can play the same games but with a more powerful console. Make it make sense dude lol.
They haven't released the figures for gow4 lately or most of their exclusives except spiderman so we only know what they tell us. HZD only sold like what 700K to 1M copies on PC out of the 1.5B PC gamers so far. It just got released so give it time but even if that's true in the future. Sony will see it and go back to just releasing on their console. This is a test project after all. It seem like they are begging or is that for just show because we get quality games every year that developers really want to give us the best experiences possible.
You say ya'll waiting for emulators but if that was the case why not wait a little longer and get it for free whether or not sony releases it lol. Ya'll waited this long why not wait a little longer if you're soo close. TLOU is a ps3 game so not exactly the same thing but enjoy. I'm not mad. I just don't understand how you guys say we don't want your console but we want your games so we can play it at a better performance than you did. It comes off as elitist along with calling yourself "the pc master race".
@Nepp67 Playstation already released a stament basically saying if you want quality pay for it. They are definitely not about to go down to $35 or $40 for a full game. I agree with @cenoma It should be 70 to 80$ or even 90$ for PC since ya'll want our exclusives so bad so you can play with the "best" performance. Remember sony is a business lol.
@LPB that is very smart and I agree. These pc guys think they actually getting all of our exclusives. Sony is just very stategic and letting them think that though lol
@Spyroescape You forget people can just look up the compatible games for the nintendo emulator and expose you as a fraud. Didn't think about that did you lol
@BrainHacker just looked up your so called emulators. This is what I say "There's only one real PS4 emulator for PC, called Orbital, and it can't run any games yet".
@Spyroescape
People live in a bubble ehh. You just described yourself being surrounded by your "gamer" friends that play sports games. Just because something has more sales than exclusives doesn't mean they're the reason. Some people just are casuals and enjoy something they don't have to think to hard about to beat. Hence sports games. People buy consoles because they're easy to use and don't cost a fortune but a big majority buy for exclusives. The executives said it in a interview.
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@B_Lindz congrats hope you enjoy it
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@GADG3Tx87 doubtful. If it's great content who cares how much it costs. As long as they don't make this a standard with every game. I'm satisfied.
Re: Feature: The 10 Most Anticipated PS5, PS4 Games for the Rest of 2021
@Hurblyburbly there was no point. Just sharing my opinion as well. You're welcome.
Deathloop doesn't look like anything impressive. Kinda just looks like doom but you can teleport and there's a loop when you die. Kena looks good but i'll have to wait to see more.
Re: Feature: The 10 Most Anticipated PS5, PS4 Games for the Rest of 2021
@Hurblyburbly you're one person and in the minority so your opinion isn't widely shared and it is indeed jaw-dropping to alot of people. Horizon is objectively better.
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@Icey664 ok! I definitely will play it but i'm also going in with no expectations so I hope I like it. I love 3rd person games.
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@Icey664 ah I see. have you played plague tale if so what did you think?
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@Icey664 what?
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@nessisonett yea me too. I haven't played yet either. Hopeful we get a free ps5 upgrade.
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@nessisonett wait for what exactly?
Re: Deal: Returnal, Demon's Souls, Spider-Man in PS5 Weekend Sale
@Bamila same site says the first spiderman game to speedrun would be 6h 23m 13s.
https://howlongtobeat.com/game?id=44852
as you can see, it may be possible this website isn't very accurate.
I did take my time because I wanted to savor the experience and I had an absolute blast. I don't play 70 hr games like red dead. I feel a game can get dragged out too long if it's that long and I think 20-25 hr games 30 at the most is a great length.
Makes it easier to consider playing again. I also don't mind shorter games like miles.
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@Bamila it's not even that short. I went in listening to people like you and was surprised it was as long as it was.
Main story for me was 12-16 hours. and collectibles and side quests was 20-25hrs.
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@CrimsonKing97 wouldn't multiplayer games have players put in 500,000 hours more likely than single player games
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@AdamNovice is one game for everyone. There's always that one person who probably hates everything lol
Re: Bethesda Apologises to PS5, PS4 Fans 'P*ssed' at Exclusivity
@xMightyMatt14x nice chatting with you man
Re: Bethesda Apologises to PS5, PS4 Fans 'P*ssed' at Exclusivity
@xMightyMatt14x overall I agree with other genres within sony not being as big as god of war etc. I wasn't saying that sony has the best games across the board but in the mainstream. There is no argument they have the most quality and consistent great exclusives more than their competition with nintendo as a close second. I can't speak for every genre because I don't think any one person likes playing every genre.
Definitely not because everyone has different tastes but I stress the majority say they have the best quality exclusives. Definitely not in every genre. Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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@xMightyMatt14x oh i see what you're saying. I can't say sony is the best in all categories because I don't play all categories so I can agree with that bro. when I say the games with the most quality. I don't mean every type of game if you get what i'm saying. I'm saying as far as overall best exclusives(not in all categories but the ones that get talked about the most). They have them and i'm sure nintendo is great with exclusives too but I rarely hear anybody mention their exclusives as being the best but they definitely in second place I think. I agree no studio is the best in all categories.
Ok so I just went to metacritic since you mentioned it and did a little research. So what i've come to understand is that as far as the critics are concerned. They say the last forza that came out was a better than gran Turismo sport but the user score for both is not good with only a little separating them so they both can't be considered on top. Especially when a few years ago gran turismo with it's first 3 entries had over the hightest score than what metacritic has ever gave forza ever. Correct me if i'm wrong. While the last 3 entries have been below the latest entries in forza. You can't say the only fan base that rates gt higher is inside the sony ecosystem. There is obviously going to be the people who have both consoles and you can't count pc because if we're going to compare a sony exclusive with a xbox game that is available on pc also. We cannot count what they say so it really is an even competition. Also forza has released 3 games each for each generation while sony only releases a mainline gran turismo once every gen so we are only counting the mainline forzas. so you can't believe the GT series or forza series is regarded as the top tier, cream of the crop. they are both false and this upcoming games might be the tie breaker. Again not counting what pc says because they more than likely haven't played gran turismo but have played forza. Not even fair competition.
As far as I can see. These are two most popular racing games that are in competition. Can't really say the same about gears being the most popular narrative game xbox has to offer like uncharted or god of war.
I wasn't giving sony credit for potential future platformers. All I was saying is that it looks like they could catch up to nintendo but until then nintendo is king. the difference is that nintendo and sony have proved themselves at providing themselves with consistent top tier exclusives in their respective genres. Bestatha was either hit or miss before xbox bought them and I'm sure most people like me are waiting to see if they can deliver. Xbox doesn't have the same brand trust to deliver non stop greats yet so I can't give them credit yet. If they prove themselves like their competition has, I will change my tune quickly. There is no double standard with me at least.
agreed. multiplayer needs to improve. I'm not too proud to admit it.
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@The_New_Butler some people just like behind the scenes stuff. I like it because I get to see all the hard work put into it and makes me love it even more.
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@xMightyMatt14x I agree with half of these statements. Obviously everyone has different tastes but an huge majority agree with this statement. the attention to detail, narratives, and quality of gameplay goes to PlayStation i've heard a huge amount of people agree with.
They have a variety of games and people who say "all their games are the same 3rd person whatever" is insane.Their working on providing mutiplats by starting a new studio just for that for this new generation from what i've heard. I personally don't play alot of multiplats and prefer single player but that's good to hear for people who do. What popular multiplat does ms have besides halo?
ratchet and clank is not a platformer from what i've seen. You're thinking of games like astro's playroom which is fantastic btw. They just made the studio that made that game a first party studio so I think they will be able to complete with nintendo soon enough. I disagree with ms having the western rpgs. They bought one studio and until we see them actually release them. It's safe to say that goes to sony.
why is forza regarded as top of the racing lol. from what i've heard it's unrealistic and people prefer gran Turismo. correct me if i'm wrong because I don't know much about the racing games competition. Point is - there are lots of types of games people enjoy and Sony studios are really only masters of a couple of them. Many people also enjoy other game types to change it up and the new reality is other platforms offer better experiences for those tastes.
I still stand by sony studios making the best games and putting the most effort into them. They have variety. people just got to look. I enjoy changing up as well and I think nintendo is great but the reality is the majority of what they have are platformers and xbox doesn't offer anything on their own yet while they are providing all their games on pc.
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@BloodNinja lol ok. don't every device have that battery or am i missing something.
Re: Bethesda Apologises to PS5, PS4 Fans 'P*ssed' at Exclusivity
@Col_McCafferty exactly they can't cry about us having exclusives that have always been exclusives. Microsoft just took the future titles of multiplats off but I personally don't care. Never played a bethesda game anyway. We still have the games with the most quality.
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@BrainHacker Sony doesn't have to buy a studio. They already said they just going to build mutiple teams inside of the studios they have which is smarter than just buying everything up because you can. Now what if besteda still can't make games that are good? it will all be for nothing.
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@Envy
maybe they rich too to be buying two consoles lol. I think most smart people only have one console
Re: Uncharted 4 Heading to PC, Investor Presentation Claims
@BrainHacker you have no idea what you're talking about. Sony literally said they felt that the ps4 was going to be their last console and that their exclusives saved them basically. Do your research before you decide to spread lies my guy.
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@BloodNinja why didn't you just sell it lol and did you get a ps5?
Re: Final Play At Home Update Includes Free Content for Lots of PS4 Games
@The_Pixel_King that's cool man. I totally respect your opinion and I like horizon too. Can't wait for the sequel!
Re: Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Has Been Played By Over 37 Million People
@BrainHacker it's silly though like why supernatural stuff lol
Re: Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Has Been Played By Over 37 Million People
@MattSilverado this is the first one I played and I still was sad it was ending😂.
Re: Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Has Been Played By Over 37 Million People
@HUMPERDOO ain't nothing wrong with being serious instead of saying "funny" lines just for the heck of it lol
Re: Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Has Been Played By Over 37 Million People
@hypnotoad what games you play? I haven't come across any of those types of characters yet
Re: Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Has Been Played By Over 37 Million People
@Daveuppercut uncharted 4 is my favorite in the series. The pacing is great and the platforming and story has never been better. Maybe don't look at events like e3 if you want to go in blind. I did that and i'm glad. I was completely blown away. Way better final boss and main villian than any in the series. Lost legacy I felt brought nothing new to the table gameplay wise and that last fight didn't feel as well written as the one in 4.
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@BloodNinja Oh ok didn't know that was a battery. Doubt any console(maybe one) has been supported for 10-12 years so I don't think that's a big issue unless emulators or bc is not being made. I don't think sony get rid of bc until a good amount of generations later.
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@BrainHacker would it be nice to have all games on one system sure but if that system cost as much as pc. Well I ain't buying! Put yourself into a business shoes. Would you rather go through other systems or have your own console with your own games that you produce. It's just better and I see why many companies want their own platform. I would too. But if I can get the same games anywhere. What incentive do I have to play your console instead of the most powerful which is xbox. What do you think a world without exclusives would be? I'm curious how your mind works.
"Yeah, because when you think about consoles, the first thing that comes into your mind is how this gaming device can play video content for you." You literally said earlier that some people buy consoles to watch tv lol. Going back on your word are we? I'm sure there is just as many asking about 8k tvs for xbox. They do that for everything. proof that ps5 can run native 4k https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/i9jy97/ps5_has_shown_gameplay_running_at_native_4k/
When I say you're done for...I mean you've been proven wrong. Well duh sir it's just video games lol. I realize that nobody likes everything and that includes cinematic games. No ones opinion including yours has any value so try thinking before you speak.
What matters is the majority and the majority loves these games which I'm glad because I get more. Ok? so sony is porting a few old games. Who cares lol. There's more new ones on the way for us anyways so enjoy the ones we played 4 years. You're the one still arguing. I'm just proving you wrong at this point but will you listen? no. it's cringe. Stop.
Someone who really wants a game and buys the system to play that one game? just because you won't doesn't mean lots of others won't. Have some "self-awareness". Calling people dumb just because they do something you don't? WOW. have some "self-awareness". Believe or not some people makes games not because they tryna make a quick buck but because they have a idea. Cory Barlog is one of the many people in sony studios that are actually like this. Sony may be a business but that isn't how they are at all. Yes I do think they care about us. They could pull a cyberpunk and release an unfinished game but no. They say it's coming when it's ready. IDC what you say. Proof sony made a stament saying no outcry? you're so pathetic. You big mad lmbo.
Exclusives will always exist. Stay mad punk. Go enjoy your pc you spent so much money on instead of arguing with someone who's immature lol.
Re: Final Play At Home Update Includes Free Content for Lots of PS4 Games
@The_Pixel_King what are some things you love about horizon?
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
8K support The PS5 console is compatible with 8K displays through HDMI 2.1 support.
this is what it says on their website which means it can for stuff like netflix and youtube.
4K-TV gaming Play your favorite PS5 games on your stunning 4K TV.
this is what it says also on their website. Same for the new xbox that can support 4k.
They do care about us. They literally just announced ps5 is going to have more EXCLUSIVES than any past generation. lol they didn't say anything about pc which means you're done for. buy a playstation if you want to play their games. simple just like for any other console or pc. I have to buy xbox to play halo and you don't see me complaining. why should you be so high and mighty. lol You pc fanboys crack me up. who cares how the number of sales for exclusives stack up against half of people who are probably just casuals who play call of duty and fornite but still know which console is the best. What can I say. I love quality games. That doesn't mean i'm hardcore. I go where the quality is. You're acting childish by wanting everything to go your way when it never will. Just because they said here's a few of our exclusives doesn't mean they about to go all out for ya'll. forget it. Of course they'll get a few sales here and there but not alot of people will buy a game that's been out for 3-4 years. Hence horizon zero dawn not selling that much compared to ps4 sales. Nintendo is a business as well and wants to make money. Why don't you think their not porting their exclusives there? because they want people to buy their console.
Alot of people bought a ps4 just to play spiderman. You'd be surprised. Then they end up not regretting their purchases because there a pleura of great games on ps. You dumb if you think they would want to wait 3-4 years to MAYBE be able to play the sequel to horizon. I'm happy when they buy the console they made so they can make more money to put into their games and see the console business will never die and can be just as popular as pc so they can put more effort into it.
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@BrainHacker this "goofball" thinks you're full of it. why else buy a switch if not for portability one of the few things it's got over ps4 besides exclusives? Nobody buys a weaker console to not play games that are only on that console and use the one thing it's got over ps4. Not putting nintendo down...they still better than xbox and got their own thing going on.
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@BloodNinja why would you change that on a system like ps4 that is not supposed to be changed? lol of course it's gonna brick you're not supposed to do it.
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@BrainHacker I just answered your question. I wish you would pay attention so I wouldn't keep having to repeat myself. I never said the main reason was exclusives. I said the EXECUTIVE at SONY said they were mostly responsible for the success of ps4. I will never believe you when it comes straight from their mouths. Tell me what the internet says all day. I will not listen to you over Sony themselves. No one knows better about their products than them. They said ps5 will have more exclusives than any previous generation. That's all the proof I need that they weren't lying about that. I never claimed ps gamers only bought a ps to just play a handful of games or did you forget ps are multi-purpose machine too? lol your hilarious man. I literally went back up to see the conversation when we began and I never said that was the main reason why. Go ahead look for yourself. lol you literally said hzd is not selling as well as it did on ps. So your telling me sony has a better chance at hitting 40m on pc? Don't make me laugh. You provided me proof to throw back at you. Thank you for that. If I get the best of the best...I don't mind paying $60 for quality instead of $1 - $5 for gamepass with mediocrity. You get what you pay for lol.
That's what they're doing I see a bunch of comments coming from pc gamers saying they buying a ps5 just to play the sequel to horizon. It's happening whether you're aware or not. I was not aware of the massive outcry for death stranding because all I heard was walking simulator. I didn't think alot cared honestly. Woah woah woah. Don't get me wrong. I care about the devs and the studios in general. They work tirelessly to give us ps fans the best experience possible without bugs. I have massive respect for them and the directors like cory barlog.https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/god-of-war-director-cory-barlog-says-games-need-to-go-up-in-price/ . I rather have price go up than cash grab microtransaction filled messes like cyberpunk. DLCs I agree should be in the game and that's another reason why god of war is great to me. Everything that comes in that game is there day one.
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You clearly won't answer my question because you have no answer because you know i'm right. My answer is the same reason why there is huge amount of pc gamers and the best selling game is only 40 million copies. Take that as you will but nothing will appeal to everybody especially not all of the ps4 owners so stop kidding yourself with 20 million is low. 20 million made Sony half a billion dollars each. Literally you keep saying the same thing expecting me to change my answer.
I've been saying that exclusives have alot to do with Sony success not just whatever you saying. Sony will give you guys some of the exclusives we played 3 years ago. That's it lol. So just because Epic gave Sony a deal that means every exclusive is coming to pc huh? lol jeez how desperate are you. Sony is NOT going to give you their biggest franchises like gow for another 3-4 years. That would be stupid because then alot of people would go to pc. Sure they'll give you their leftovers after we experienced them 5 years ago. Death stranding, dbh, heavy rain, beyond two souls are all non ps studios and timed exclusives. Do your reseach bruh.
microtransaction are gross and are for the greedy studios to charge $70 games then try to make you spend even more money for something that should be free. Don't even try to say it's for devs. It's for the company to ring you dry after charging full price. Some companies put ADS in their games and there is no excuse for any of it. I will not accept it no matter how much they make. I don't care.
Most DLCs nobody buys unless multiplayer.They have a better chance of surviving with exclusives than without. Look at xbox surviving only by old mediocre games on gamepass that aren't quality at all. I agree right now there are more who play multiplayer but I have a feeling that's about to change in the near future. Single player games are more popular than ever and get more popular by the day. Most multiplayer games are played by children anyway like fornite. that game is trash but kids like it so they can play with their friends.
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@BrainHacker Do you believe everything on the internet especially when it isn't coming from Sony themselves. I told you what Sony said but whatever. You'd rather believe random guy on the internet than them.
DLCs and microtransactions are what's wrong with the industry now. I rather have the full game day one without having to be charged for upgrades for something that should be free.
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@BrainHacker
Got you. I never said anything about Pc exclusives. I said pc GAME IN GENERAL. Which means it's worse for you guys but you probably won't get it because it appears you don't know how to do math.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say I have business rights or suggest I did delusional fanboy. I'm not deflecting anything. I never said exclusives was the only reason why people buy consoles. I said GAMES IN GENERAL ARE THE REASON 😂😂. Where's your proof spiderman is the best selling exclusives. They haven't released gow sales numbers in a while. It could have surpassed it now. Even if it is that is still are large amount of people who buy exclusives compared to games general on pc. 1.5b players and only 40 million for the best selling lol😂😂. That's not even close to 115m at all and IT'S ON PC. You look foolish.
I go where the best games are. the ones made with real passion to give us the best product and it just happens to be sony. Third party exist for multiplayer across all consoles among other things. I play some but none of them have the quality like first party. Stop embarrassing yourself bro. Obviously sony playing ya'll and i'm all for it but don't act like you can't play a playstation just because muh performance.
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@Spyroescape Ok...thanks for that wildly inaccurate and out of nowhere assumption lol. I know Sony said that but if you think it's gonna be any game that hasn't been out for 3+yrs you are kidding yourself. They testing the waters and seeing if they have a market and if they don't they'll pull out. Sony is playing ya'll. You say you're not entitled huh this seems like a entitled thing to say "I have a PS4 but its a dust bunny. Don't use it and most likely won't ever even though I bought a few exclusives. Would much rather play them on PC where I don't give up performance." This makes you look so elitist and the worst part is you don't even realize it. I could care less about them coming to pc because ik ya'll won't be getting it day 1 and some will run out of patience lol.
Ok switch owners like portable GAMES. you proved my point...switch isn't powerful at all. It always come back to games for most people who buy GAME systems. I'm sure there is a very small minority buy it to watch netflix instead of getting a fire tv that cost $100 instead of $500 but most aren't that dumb lol. 😂😂 I literally said it was about more than performance and about games including exclusives. LISTEN😂 .
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@1_W1NG3D_4NG3L
Of course 3yr+ old games can be sold. I'm not saying they can't but pc gamers feeling entitled about it is what I can't stand. They basically saying what you guys play are too beneath me so I'll wait to play it at a better performance than you and never buy a PlayStation. But I get what Sony is doing and it's a smart strategy.
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@BrainHacker
Our as in the ps4 exclusives since I play on ps. lol like I said If I want to play master chief whatever for a affordable price. I buy an xbox. If I want to play mario games. I buy a switch. IF YOU want to play god of war or spiderman. Buy a playstation forget about your performance. if i want pc exclusives. I will buy a pc. Stop being entitled.
You're so delusional lol. Nobody is loyal to any brand buddy. Gamers go to the brand that has the best games. It's always been about the GAMES. No one cares about how powerful a pc or xbox is. Believe what you want to believe meanwhile xbox last gen sold 40 million while ps sold 115 million and the fact you think it's just because of brand is ridiculous. I'll believe people that actually are at the company than you thank you. You said there was 1.5b (which isn't accurate) pc gamers so explain to me why the best selling pc games sells 42 million out of that lol? It's a good indication that games is not the main reason why gamers buy PCs.
I'll wait while you just embarrass yourself some more. Another question tell me how spiderman is the best selling superhero game of all time on ONE console while batman games are available everywhere including pc? get out of here man. You haven't the slightest of what you're talking about and is probably just repeating what you heard from pc or xbox fanboys. Xbox owners are buying PS consoles because they have more exclusives. Hence why ps5 has twice amount of sales of xbox right now.
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@BrainHacker Wow lol you're mad now. I never said I owned anything. I only mention Sony buddy. I heard what the producer said and I don't really care. He doesn't even work there anymore.
I don't need to buy an Xbox because all of their games will come to PC. HZD is not even in the top seller at Steam anymore, so you're excuse is pure BS. You just don't want to believe that majority of PC gamers doesn't care about PS exclusives like you initially thought.
I wasn't talking about you buying an xbox. I was address the "majority" of people you say who don't want exclusives. Xbox is the more powerful system so why do they buy playstations if not for the exclusives lol. I don't care how popular hzd is on pc. I don't play on pc. I'm telling you Sony is testing the waters and if it doesn't sell then they'll pull out. It's strategy. Why I keep see so many pc guys talking about the exclusives then if they don't care? They will buy a console instead of playing the waiting game after they get a taste. I've seen loads of people say this already. Stop being naïve. So you say they buy a $2000 pc for games but don't want to spend a mere(to them) $500 for a console with exclusives and affordability? You crazy. Maybe you rich but majority ain't.
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@BrainHacker I see most caving in this generation especially for horizon forbidden west because they want to experience it as soon as possible after having a taste with the first one and for the other upcoming exclusives. I think sony did things very smart. Don't forget PS5 is the fastest selling console of all time. If not mostly for exclusives. Why not buy an xbox which I keep hearing you can play the same games but with a more powerful console. Make it make sense dude lol.
They haven't released the figures for gow4 lately or most of their exclusives except spiderman so we only know what they tell us. HZD only sold like what 700K to 1M copies on PC out of the 1.5B PC gamers so far. It just got released so give it time but even if that's true in the future. Sony will see it and go back to just releasing on their console. This is a test project after all. It seem like they are begging or is that for just show because we get quality games every year that developers really want to give us the best experiences possible.
You say ya'll waiting for emulators but if that was the case why not wait a little longer and get it for free whether or not sony releases it lol. Ya'll waited this long why not wait a little longer if you're soo close. TLOU is a ps3 game so not exactly the same thing but enjoy. I'm not mad. I just don't understand how you guys say we don't want your console but we want your games so we can play it at a better performance than you did. It comes off as elitist along with calling yourself "the pc master race".
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@Nepp67 Playstation already released a stament basically saying if you want quality pay for it. They are definitely not about to go down to $35 or $40 for a full game. I agree with @cenoma It should be 70 to 80$ or even 90$ for PC since ya'll want our exclusives so bad so you can play with the "best" performance. Remember sony is a business lol.
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@LPB that is very smart and I agree. These pc guys think they actually getting all of our exclusives. Sony is just very stategic and letting them think that though lol
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@Spyroescape You forget people can just look up the compatible games for the nintendo emulator and expose you as a fraud. Didn't think about that did you lol
Re: Epic Games Offered Sony $200 Million to Bring PS5, PS4 Exclusives to Its Store
@BrainHacker just looked up your so called emulators. This is what I say "There's only one real PS4 emulator for PC, called Orbital, and it can't run any games yet".
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@Spyroescape
People live in a bubble ehh. You just described yourself being surrounded by your "gamer" friends that play sports games. Just because something has more sales than exclusives doesn't mean they're the reason. Some people just are casuals and enjoy something they don't have to think to hard about to beat. Hence sports games. People buy consoles because they're easy to use and don't cost a fortune but a big majority buy for exclusives. The executives said it in a interview.