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@Czar_Khastik ain't no way bro lol

@Kierant202 holy essay batman!
by your logic ubisoft formula is still popular and is still used in numerous games. what games are not apart of the "ubisoft formula"?

sony's stamp of approval? lol and why didn't the failed sony games they had at that time not succeed when sony branded them? you're not making any sense. anything but it was a unique game that people loved I suppose.

that "pile of gold" literally helps you buy legendary weapons and items...there's nowhere you can buy it from so it's rare and has many uses. you really sound like you're trying to blame your lack of understanding of how to play the game on the game itself. zero dawn literally has everything forbidden west has lol...you're got to be joking. forbidden west just has quality of life changes and more interesting hidden nooks and crannies like underwater caves and you do find lore inside some of them. I get nostalgia is a drug that most people really don't remember how zero dawn was. I don't understand why you just didn't look up what the purpose is for the stuff you find if it's that hard for you to understand lol. there's a reason for everything

how was it forced in the early game then get's better in the later parts lol. like it was a natural progression bro...you've got to give me something better than that man. also you're on a character arc so obviously she changes throughout.

"The tonal dissonance between Aloy's urgency in the intro contrasted poorly to the flippant side quests"
YOU chose to the side missions so you are to blame buddy plus the side missions fix certain parts of the world so we are still actively saving the earth. if you wanted to brute force through the story why didn't you? you're blaming the game for something you did.

you have to be joking lol. the side characters that joined you we barely saw and had no missions with except 1 with erend about his sister. in forbidden west you have branching unique storylines for each side character that has a character arc. come on bro were you even paying attention? i'm all for opinions but that's objectively false.

completion rate? you really just trying to find anything to downplay it's sucess like I wouldn't be surprised if you're an xbox player. it was free for a month and not free for all the other time it was out for 8 years. you need better excuses.

higher plantium ehh? let's see ok so zero dawn plantium is 27.41% and forbidden west is 37.24%. so by your logic collectibles are better than zero dawn. I agree lol.

@Kierant202 the so called ubisoft formula was in tons of games in 2017. how come none of them sold as good or is beloved as horizon zero dawn? see you're trying to downplay it's success but what you're saying it's making sense.

also the map for forbidden west is only a little bit bigger than zero dawn and with faster traversal so explain how it's bloated and what makes it have poor writing? i'm curious

@dardel if you skipped the latter half of each games story then you have no business having an opinion on a game story you didn't even finish. that's like me trying to judge half a movie when I don't see what the build up and characters are about...it's weird

@Juanalf why would they have to brute force something that's already good and has lots of fans though? the only thing is that it doesn't have to father daughter dark story that critics love so much

@nessisonett I knew you would be here. you always got something negative to say about horizon lol. you can't ever hide being a hater

@JAMes-BroWWWn you're out of line but you're right lol. first of all I never said companies always are right and never make mistakes...i said they know better than you otherwise they wouldn't be a mulibillion dollar company in the first place and you wouldn't be a keyboard warrior but a head of a mulibillion dollar company if that was the case. notice how you skipped over the part where I said guerilla made sony over a billion dollars with the horizon franchise lol. if you don't know how to do map that's about a quarter of what they spent on horizon forbidden west. quality costs money and it has been successful for sony for all of the ps4 generation and now ps5 gen.

bottom line : gaming is the biggest money maker for sony overall so of course they are gonna give them whatever they need to make a great game.

@NathanKang i have over 200 hours in forbidden west and I can without a shadow of a doubt say you're a liar. in both areas...if you're gonna bait you're gonna have to do better than that.

@LordBakemono first of all...it's subjective if the first game is one of the greatest games of all time. secondly...I just didn't think about it too much...sure I was looking forward to it but I wasn't watching every trailer etc. please no lol...if they do watch the ratings drop. it has good gameplay sure. i'm pretty sure neil didn't want this reaction to his game lol...bro was butthurt and even tried to prove the haters wrong by telling everyone to vote. somebody who wanted that reaction doesn't say let's prove the haters wrong lol.

@LordBakemono i had no expectations and was looking forward to it and it still disappointed me. Not because of a certain death one hour in and everybody knows who the real villain is lol. I really hope it does vindicate the game...I REALLY DO. this is the one time I hope they stray away from the source material.

@Triumph741 forgive me for having standards. the first last of us was good second was trash. it's facts.

@Triumph741 creatively bankrupt yet made a better and more interesting story than the trash story of the last of us 2 lol. creatively bankrupt never felt so good. different doesn't mean good and the fact ya'll always use that excuse for part 2 proves it's bad. there's no comparison with the gameplay so don't mention that lol. horizon over a mile any day.

@Triumph741 you're the one baiting saying that the story is improvement over the first last of us lol. the fact horizon is open world and lou is linear should make it cost more. do the math

@JAMes-BroWWWn are you ceo of a muli billion dollar company? no? then hush up you have no idea what you are talking about lol. the first horizon made sony over a billion dollars if they want to spend a fraction of that money on the sequel that's gonna make them even more...that's what they are gonna do. nothing is mismanaged...just a classic example of somebody on the internet thinking they know better than a multibillion dollar company.

@Triumph741 it has everything you said last of us has and a way better story. shouldn't be hard for you to figure out.

@NathanKang you definitely did not play forbidden west. it is far superior and it's not even close.

@Sanquine I don't have much time to be on here so when I do rarely comment...I comment in spurts. i'm invested in alot of things and so much for agree to disagree lol.

how so sir? you can't just say a baffling claim and don't back it up. aloy is objectively great written character in forbidden west as well if you don't get her or pay attention to her you wouldn't get that.

@Sanquine wild but alright. I find geralt boring

@Palleon I get you completely get you. botw should be better at telling you the mechanics for sure.

@Sanquine no she isn't especially in the second game.

@bozz finally a zelda fan that likes horizon lol

@colonelkilgore that is a myth. it's not even in the same audience as those those other games. if anything the ps5 shortage affected the sales if anything.

@tallythwack condescending? that just gave me a good chuckle bro lol...the only time she is sassy is when people deserve it. yup we can't all like the same thing but i'm just glad the majority loves her. ragnorok and horizon are not similar at all and cod and killzone are not good examples at all. lol well you can keep you're uneducated opinion...me and the rest of us will believe the educated experts that job is analyzing graphics. very rarely are the experts wrong...whether you believe that doesn't matter. how is a prime minister and a president an expert at being that when it is their first time being that? lol bad example. you can question them but you ain't gonna always agree with anybody all the time. I could care less if you did or not like it and I have said so. also didn't you just say you said it was boring instead of it's bad? conflicting opinions lol.

@tallythwack I remember there are points where she does have a sense of humour. you would know that if you actually finished the game or did more than a couple side quests. i'm trying to figure out how you possibly though she had one in the first game. but you got to look at it from her perspective...would you be laughing and cracking jokes all the time if you had the weight of the world on your shoulders and a time sensitive mission? I'm sure you wouldn't so It's understandable. in case you haven't noticed...she was raised in the woods by herself, had no mother, was shunned and made fun of her whole life lol...she ain't very social and it takes time to be that way as well. you said it was boring which with all the different stuff you can do in the world...I have no idea how. it's better than zero dawn for real. yes I do love the game because i've been playing for way longer than you. you didn't just say something negative...you literally went in on it and made fun of it in two comments lol. you don't like it cool but you're going in hard. aloy's movement being stiff is just you being bad at playing the game lol...let's be honest here. bro is really annoyed about more mounts lol. red blue, silver, gold, purple are all the machine colors and that is better than the one color we had in zero dawn white. bro is fuming for real lol.

@Keyblade-Dan thanks lol. I haven't actually played the dlc yet but she looks so realistic and nice so yea lol.

@grapetrap interesting...any idea what could be causing that though periodically? I don't think i've ever experienced that. dang sounds trippy...maybe you're experiencing vertigo?

@Gamer_Guy did you play the first game?

@Zeke68 that's literally what you said lol. Like all did was copy and paste those two words from your last replay so you are reaching. i'm pretty sure horizon is nothing like assassins creed

@tallythwack how did you find aloy annoying lol. that's hilarious to me but whatever. you don't have to care what df says...but these people are experts and zoom in and spend hours analyzing and such. you may not agree and have an opinion...all i'm saying that OBJECTIVELY they are right. you have to remove your personal feeling about thinking the game is bad or anything else. even if I didn't agree with them...i'd be like well idk but ya'll are the experts that study this stuff all the time. it's like not agreeing with a doctor when they say you need medicine...just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's not objectively true. and you can't say that playing a game normally makes a difference when so most people say the exact same thing. look at what comments have to most likes here...the ones that say it is the best. even the biggest gow ragnorok fanboy on twitter i've seen say it looks better lol. the lighting is different so what? it's called hero light and that's just what the devs wanted to do with their artstyle...like I said if you prefer an artstyle fine. they already toned it down from how it used to be and I just looked up ready brek glow lol...it's nowhere near that bad. I mean even look at the character in my profile picture...that's in game. does that look "plasic" to you? lol the last game was plasticy you can't deny when it's right there in my pfp that looks phenomenal. didn't even realize I insulted you...sorry if I did. comparing two completely different games will get you nowhere...now zero dawn is just a matter of opinion and is debatable.

@Matroska oh you didn't at the poster so I didn't know what you meant. art style is just as important as realism I think...not necessarily the same thing. ghost of tsushima for example has a phenomenal art style but let's be honest here...still love the game though but the fidelity and textures and lighting is not realistic. i see now.

@Zeke68 well that's a bummer lol. I like stories that I don't have to go looking in every nook and cranny to find lore to piece together somewhat of a story. interesting premise though...reminds me how arkham knight takes place over one night which is crazy considering how long it took me to even make halfway. every game that has climbing and bow shooting is like assassins creed? lol that's a stretch...I was looking for more of a standout thing to why you think it's actually like it though. those things are more games than you know. I do think that no bow and arrow in other game feels as good as horizon's...even ghost. the one about assassin's creed was the main one...forgot I asked the other ones but thanks for answering anyway.

@mariomaster96 it has both soo.

@NinjaNicky tell me what pc game looks better than this. i'll wait.

@BeerIsAwesome interesting. I don't think i've ever actually experienced uncanny valley but it's good that guerilla was able to push through so it wouldn't activate for you and others. i'm sure they could all the way if they really wanted it to but i think this way fits their art style better. still the best looking npcs i've ever seen in a game...let alone open world. just look at my profile pic...that's in game

@Zeke68 you still didn't quite answer my previous question though lol

@Nepp67 if you saw they brought it down her talking about stash...what are you even talking about? you make no sense whatsoever. what part of they have fixed it to you not understand...if you don't want to play the game just say that. don't make up weird excuses. I tell you as somebody who has spent 200 hrs in game that they have...you tell me they haven't as somebody who hasn't played it at all. smh stop spreading false info.

@RemembersGems she's even better in forbidden west...nothing to worry about. I guarantee you if you like her in the first game you'll like her here. she's a better character here imo. the loud minority is well loud but most people love forbidden west trust me.

@Nepp67 storage? what are you even on about? how would you even know if they fixed it or not? I am the one actually playing the game so I know better than you...they fixed it. play it or don't play...I couldn't care less just know you're missing out big time.

@Nepp67 you get immersed but also be thinking it's not real? make it make sense

@Nepp67 they fixed whatever problem ya'll had with aloy talking a long time ago. you would know that if you actually played the game

@Zeke68 absolutely agree. they each give each other tips and root for each other and I think it just pushing them to great heights. the only limit they have is budget and hardware...I truly believe they can do anything besides those constraints and it looks like we are about to see what ps5 only finally has to offer. horizon was already incredible looking but now we get to not only fly but go up all the way in the clouds now. no other game has land, underwater, and flight like horizon does. the traversal is unmatched imho. not to mention the unique environments etc.

@Nepp67 well duh sir. we all know it's video game but it sounds like you don't know what immersion is. look it up and then come back here...I can't take you seriously until you do. I feel bad for people like you that can't get sucked into a game...that's one of the best things about games and with such high fidelity realistic games.

@Zeke68 ah I see and agree. well in that case horizon in a way does stuff never seen in a game as well in it's own way ofc. that's awesome man so did I and loved the father/kid aspect as well and i'm not even a parent yet lol. it's very well done. interesting and how is horizon like oddessey...I don't see that at all.

tried playing bloodborne a while back but lost interest but maybe one of these days i'll pick it back up. does it have a story at all? it's cool bro...i'm not big on souls games myself. don't let the souls fanboys see you saying this...they will lose it lol.

ahh I see. you mean games that have you doing quick reactions the whole game. even in my 20s I don't want to spend 3 hours on one boss...I don't know how these people do it. I love a challenge but that's too much and the lack of fluid combat as well is just grating.

I get what you mean I only platinum games I really love but some I just too hard to get like gow 2018 but I did it lol. took me a while but I did. ghost of tsushima has online stuff I need to do to get the platinum and I need to play new game plus. for real bro...all sony games have the movie quality for me. ghost is no exception.

@Sakai notice I said objectively wrong and you can be that. I gave you proof why as well. like somebody else here already said using eurogamer is crazy lol. even the review is wrong. aloy goes to the west to try to rebuild gaia...not find a working copy lol. there is no video gamey ridiculous and silliness of scifi...it's just like any scifi i've seen in movies and tv shows(albeit way more interesting). ya'll over here critiquing it not being "realistic enough" when it's scifi is freaking hilarious honestly. gaming journalism is a joke and eurogamer is poster child for that aspect. looked at their god of war ragnarok review a little and they called it wonderfully absurd...so absurdity is wonderful when it's not horizon yea ok lol. thanks for sending me two whole paragraphs so I'll know never to go to eurogamer again.