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We have a roadmap to Xbox sales. The Take-Two announcement that allowed us to subtract Sony’s numbers to come to Xbox sales between 24-25 million and then year by year growth and decline. Year two saw a 63% increase followed by back to back 30% declines.

Year 1 - 5.4 million
Year 2 - 8.8 million (63% growth)
Year 3 - 6.2 million (30% decline)
Year 4 - 4.3 million (30% decline)
Total - 24.7 million

@LifeGirl

Numbers are fun!

Full-year (12 months ended March 31, 2024)

Net sales: ¥11.3 trillion ($72.2 billion, up 12% year-on-year)
Operating income: ¥1.04 trillion ($6.6 billion, up 5%)
Game & Network Services net sales: ¥4.3 trillion ($27.5 billion, up 17%)
Game & Network Services operating income: ¥290.2 billion ($1.9 billion, up 16%)

Q4 (3 months ended March 31, 2024)

Net sales: ¥2.8 trillion ($17.9 billion, up 9%)
Operating income: ¥203.3 billion ($1.3 billion, up 115%)
Game & Network Services net sales: ¥1.1 trillion ($7.03 billion, up 2.2%)
Game & Network Services operating income: ¥135.8 billion ($868 million, up 172.5%)

Sony should be really concerned about this.

Out of curiosity, how does it compare to using a phone/backbone combo? Obviously a larger screen, but I’ve had a lot of success using that combo to play Hogwarts Legacy.

I tried Midnight Suns, but the print was too small.

@feral1975
Right?! If it were “all that” there would be supply issues.

Oh wait, there are…because it keeps selling out of stock.

But hey, believe what you wanna believe.

Year over year increases are better than year over year declines. Xbox followed up a 30% decline in hardware sales with another 30% decline in hardware sales. That means the PS5 is most likely getting close to outselling it 3:1. It makes sense why Microsoft is looking at moving Xbox games to other consoles.

EDIT: Based on the numbers, it sounds like Sony has around 4.5 - 5 million PlayStations sitting on store shelves each quarter. They sold through 50 million by December 9 and shipped 4.5 million from January 1 to March 31, which leaves a 4.8 million gap to reach 59.3.

I wonder how many live service games can be active at once and still maintain successful levels of engagement. Juggling two live service games would probably be my max, and the time split between would restrict leveling up.

Maybe it’s to prevent them from being peanut butter spread too thin…

Zero impact on me.

This is what happens when you spend over $70 billion on an acquisition that gets litigated based on antitrust laws. Xbox is no longer a fringe aspect of Microsoft. It is now front and center for all shareholders who want to know how are you going to make money on this deal and why are you segregating software from Nintendo and Sony?

It reminds me of the saying, “Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.”

The Xbox faithful got it. Hope it was worth getting.

GamePass is one of the reasons Tango was shuttered. Two million players (user engagement) in the first three months, but poor sales because it was an Xbox exclusive released on GamePass Day One. Despite the user engagement talk, it’s obviously about dollars spent, and if subscriptions only grew by 2% across all services 22-23 and 1% 23-24, it’s definitely not sustainable.

Having experienced layoffs in the past, this sucks. It is not a fun experience and wondering if you have enough in savings to outlast unemployment is not a fun game to play.

I wonder if they left the basement to complain to their mom and dad.

All the posters disclaiming this as “rumors and speculation” were doing the same thing before the last Xbox to PS announcement. Phil appeased their tiny brains by saying that Starfield was not a part of the four games which had been leaked but not confirmed.

Well, the four games have released and have done well enough that the Xbox “vault” is now open. Xbox is now a third party publisher with a console that may have timed exclusivity. Xbox Owners can use GamePass to get all first party titles at subscription prices. PS owners can pick and choose what is worth buying a license for. The caveat is that PS owners also get to pick and choose from the PlayStation catalog, which has always been much stronger.

Insult to injury is that this isn’t a market to “bounce back” in. Who’s hiring?

Fallout and Elder Scrolls are about the max of my caring. There just isn’t that much that Xbox publishes that I care about.

Congrats! Looked like a good time!

Two billion sounds like a lot until you put your boots on. I logged on to two Major Order awards.

Did the personal mission and had 105 Warbonds in 15 minutes.

Then I spent it all on capes.

I love the mocap behind the scenes on the making of the intro!

https://youtu.be/1-hyYeBh5oo?si=5sV7QNPEHP8AJLmw

Another live service game proving that Helldivers is the exception, not the rule.

I think we all know this is BS. Microsoft is making Xbox games multi console and they’re trying to not piss the Xbox core off by setting BS conditions that have already been met or exceeded just to save face with those that invested in their ecosystem. An ecosystem that is no longer needed with GamePass.

@pyrrhic_victory
Given the preorder numbers, this is most likely an intentional leak to prepare the public for the shift to multi console support for the majority of games.

@GamingFan4Lyf
I would love Flight Simulator if they gave it PSVR2 support. Starfield I would buy at discount now that it’s been thoroughly beta tested. Definitely not something I would have bought an Xbox for.

Played it once. Got VIP. Never played again.

I can’t remember the last time I played Destiny 2. Not this year or last. Don’t believe 2022 or 2021. I need to check and post an update.

@LiamCroft
It’s what they didn’t put in the patch notes that is concerning!
😱

@Czar_Khastik Jokes like that lead to windows comrade! But well done!

@Fritz167
My thoughts as well. The demo and music reminded me of Nier Automata. The Nier demo almost made me not buy the game. Luckily I did buy Nier and loved it but this will be a discount purchase if I get it.

They’re having a similar discussion on Pure Xbox regarding Phil Spencer’s 10 years as lead of Xbox. I’d say it’s been a mixed bag for both of them, although seeing console exclusivity potentially end would be far worse than any of Jim Ryan’s missteps.

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2024/03/phil-spencer-celebrates-10-years-as-head-of-xbox-this-weekend

I thought they already tried this…

I’m usually a day oner but I’m going to wait and see on this. If there’s something that makes it a must have, then maybe, but it’s gonna need to knock the ball out of the park The Natural style.

I have absolutely no idea what any of this is about but read the article anyway.

I still have absolutely no idea what any of this is about but enjoyed the article.

@get2sammyb
I saw the article and thought “Sammy!”

I tried the mechs but found I wasn’t getting any post match rewards AND purchased a ship stratagem only to lose my samples with no stratagem. Decided to give it the weekend off after that.

@MaddieTian
$2.99 for a month of ad free. Can’t wait until streaming games have commercials that I can pay extra to avoid.

Such a relief after seeing the Borderlands trailer. And releasing all episodes day one? How 2020!

I really enjoy Hogwarts Legacy, but I don’t want a Wizarding World live service game, which is what I’m hearing here.

Obviously there will be new threats (northern and southern planets) and we already know about mechs, which will be a squishy TK fest I’m afraid.

It’s an easy bounce into/out of game. I probably play around 12-15 matches a week between Hogwarts and Miles Morales. Working the backlog.

A postage stamp with an upside down airplane is a valuable collectible in the U.S. I remember selling my physical copy of Symphony of the Night for over $100. This will become a collector’s item.

Expected. Microsoft needs PlayStation (and Nintendo) gamers for Xbox “engagement” numbers. Just more proof that all Xbox “exclusives” are going multiplat. To meme it…

“All your games are belong to us”

Obviously Starfield and Indiana Jones are coming to PS5. The purpose of the multiplatform support isn’t to nickel and dime revenue off of smaller games, it’s to offset GamePass costs by generating sales on other consoles.

Honestly, Phil handled it brilliantly! The scripted moderator question on what the four games would be, specifically limiting it to those four, allowed Phil to come out and say "They are not Starfield or Indiana Jones."

Brilliant!

Next day headlines were “Starfield and Indiana Jones Remain Xbox Exclusives” and the Xbox faithful let out a deep sigh in relief. Sure, some Xbox games would be released, but they’d just be small, old games. Well, those small, old games will all be released by April, well before Starfield’s Shattered Space dlc and Indiana Jones even release.

So Phil kept his word. The four games weren’t Starfield or Indiana Jones. Now let’s see if the rumors were true that the PS5 port of Starfield would come after after Shattered Space and the Indiana Jones exclusivity would be relatively short. The rumors were pretty spot on, so I’m thinking both (and more) will happen.

I didn’t expect the first four, that Phil was nice enough to tell us would not be Starfield or Indiana Jones, to release so soon. That suggests that the rumor of Starfield being ported after Shattered Space may have been correct.

Damn though. So many games in the first three months of the year. Budget is whatever, but my time constraints are real! Oh well. Will Day One it and add it to the backlog library while I spread democracy.

I think this was my first disc swap game.

I’m dropping a turret. You figure out where not to stand.

Wow..:so GamePass is LOSING subscribers! And once again, Microsoft uses deceitful language. It’s like their Modus Operandi. Obscure the truth with vagueness that can’t be classified as a lie, but doesn’t qualify as honesty either.

It’s like the Starfield and Indiana Jones deflection. To paraphrase, “We’re only releasing four games to PlayStation but they’re not Starfield or Indiana Jones.”

Okay, so the first four aren’t. What about game five? Or six? What number will the Starfield and Indiana Jones releases be since we know they won’t be a part of the initial four?

Same with GamePass. In January 2022 GamePass had 25 million subs. In the Activision trial it was disclosed that Xbox Live Gold had 11.7 million subscribers as of April 2022. Since they converted Live Gold to Game Pass Core, and Core included in these latest numbers, that puts the total LOSS at around 2.7 million subscribers!

That’s crazy!

I’m trying out this new gem called “Servers at Capacity”. It’s on a 30 second loop. When you’re really lucky you get a -1.

@FuzzieGinge88
Are you talking EBITDA or net earnings? And there are multiple types of profit. Once again, net, but then there’s also gross and operating. I work mostly in ops, but have to factor them all in. Sorry, you were just really vague in your comment…you should go work for Xbox!

Although the question being begged is why tag me when I didn’t make a comment on financials? People…

@DarkTron
I wouldn’t have known about Jet Moto being released if I hadn’t seen this article. Having beaten the game with every racer back in the 90s, I’d take another look at it for nostalgia!

PlayStation users can feel good about an expanded library and Xbox users can feel good by calling every screen an Xbox. It’s a win/win!