OldGamer999

Wow just one of the magazines I used to buy when I was a lot young along with.
C&VG, Mean Machines etc etc.

I’m on pro at 60fps VRR on and found this beautiful area, water falls, trees and grass etc everywhere it looked amazing, but did the the frame rate start to drop and even chopped a little as I planned and walked around.

The first two years of PS5 were great for me, seemed like a continuation of the PS4 era.

Now from Sony Studios it almost comparable to the last full year of the Nintendo Switch and Nintendo’s in house AAA games, very very lean.

At least Nintendo should bounce back latter this year with some big AAA for switch 2.

@Cornpop76
I think the base resolution is a bit low.
I always say get the base resolution high and a small amount of upscaling is better for PQ.

Dam got a bit excited about the Pro Patch then for PSSR.

It’s also looks like it had world class project management and project planning and execution in development and very good quality control.
Which I have always felt prior to the GAAS Sony days, All Sony studios have had.
Hence some the most memorable first party studios AAA games created and up there with some of Nintendos best if not better than some.

@AverageGamer
That is great to know from a PC, thank you.
Can you tell what causes this fizz please?

Is it just to many dense objects close knitting like gaps in foliage etc.

@LifeGirl
Not sure why there is so much hate for this game. Ubisoft delayed to make it better and have released a massive open world game which so far playing is amazing.

How many games release nowadays unfinished and full of bugs and don’t even look that good or play that well.
This game deserves much credit.

The game has a lot going on but even on Pro with TAA at 60fps VRR on, there is definitely fizz when panning around on certain foliage and the bamboo and jaggies.
Again like other games it is in the mid distance, seems to be a thing.

Being an image perfectionist would’ve be great if PSSR would get rid of this and give a perfect clean mid distance panning around image, when it gets implemented.

I think it happens with TAA and trying to upscale things from a low resolution, I think 1080p in this case.

When you do the same with same HFW burning shores there is no fizz, and we all know that is because of the incredible game engine and developed upscaling owned by the developer and I think the 60ps higher starting resolution of about 1800p.

Many disagree with me on this but if you can achieve a high graphical level of say Assassins creed shadows at 60fps with pure native 4K, then the fizz and jaggies are not there.

Anyway apart from all that, great game and really enjoying.

That’s great, now get on with it please.
Do I stop playing and wait, how long until we get the PSSR patch.

So glad the game is doing great and I’m really enjoying it.
Now perhaps all those whiny, whinging, witless wonders, will go away and leave our gaming alone.

Assassin creed shadows on Pro
60fps VRR, silky smooth and great ray tracing still enabled, definitely a looker.

It is what it is a no one owes anyone anything but, Sony don’t even have to try anymore.

PS5 up on PS4 worldwide, Sony making more profits than with PS4 according to their financial results. Sony releasing less games than PS4 era, big AAA campaign games and now have more PSN members.
Sonys main competition not really selling consoles that much and now even releasing games on PlayStation.
Sony loving the results.

This is why I wish Xbox have taken it to Sony and given them some good competition.

@Titntin
Been playing today, if you like AC and Ubi open worlds you gonna love it.
Really enjoying it so far, great game and a great looker as well, on Pro at 60fps.

Once it let my hand go and released me into the open world it got great.

I’m just playing and enjoying the game on PS5 Pro, great game so far and a good looker.

However I would like to put in an official complaint about the official vibe of the aliens 👾 in space invaders from 1978.
I had no opportunity to romance ❤️‍🔥 them instead of shooting them, a dam disgrace.

@HonestHick
Just had an hour on assassin on Pro at 60fps.
Looks dam fine and very smooth and good detail in tact when panning around.

@HonestHick
Will be interesting to see what Ghost 2 delivers on PS5 Pro later this year.

Not my type of game Monster Hunter
But just downloading Assassin creed shadows, about 106gb on Pro.

DF quote.
“Assassin's Creed Shadows delivers one of the most substantial PS5 Pro upgrades we've seen
Ray-traced lighting at 60fps”

@RagnarLothbrok
Think the PS5 is down about 5 million in Europe against PS4 same time line and it grows each month very slowly.

It’s cost of living, high console price and a lack of big Sony AAA campaign games just for the PS5.
Whilst FIFA and COD release still on PS4 each year they won’t make up that 5 million gap in Europe.

And the digital age looms ever nearer
69 percent of Xbox Series X|S sales were digital SKUs. 50 percent of PS5 sales were digital SKUs.
Wonder what the percentage was in the first two years of both consoles.

@Titntin
Totally get your stats and facts and agree.
Must be my eyes or the human eye. I see the difference a little between 30fps to 40fps slightly smoother and less panning blur.
But once I go 60fps my old eyes and brain go wow that is so much better.
Will order assassins tomorrow, will go digital though.

I’m glad someone else said there is not much difference from the quality to balanced, like 10fps.
I always try all the modes but quality to balanced from a frame rate and blurry point of view when panning around is not that different.

Now 60fps wait a difference so smooth when panning a lot less panning blur and definitely the way to play.

Shall be playing performance 60fps VRR, PS5 Pro.

@Weebleman
Shame DF didn’t include a PS5 Pro overview as well. Guess it will appear soon ish.

Fingers crossed for Sonys amazing single player games please.

I think at my age I shall worry at my own rot
Any disc I buy now will out last me 🤣

@Mikey856
Christ let’s hope Microsoft don’t go all console exclusive. I would definitely miss some games if that happens. Doom is a good example maybe elder scrolls 6 if it’s a really good AAA.
Even the smaller games like Avowed and possibly south of midnight which seem to be exclusive so far would be good on PS5.

The problem being honest is not Microsoft’s but is Sonys. They need to get their act together and now hopefully the terrible GAAS is behind them they get back on it and maybe also look at some studio purchases.

I mean what have Bungie done since Sony took them.

Was never into silent hill when younger.
Played silent hill 2, what a great game.
Really looking forward to silent hill f.

Steel books, developer reveal the other day, surely the release is this year.

@Cornpop76
Yes the internet and gamers expectations have a lot to answer for this generation.

Sometimes I think but I don’t like it, Sony and Nintendo have the right idea. They just release the game with little previews and sort of say here you go have a try at this, like Astro Bot I think came out of nowhere really.

Will be interesting if nothing else to see the reviews of Assassins creed shadows next Tuesday, then Atomfall and south of Midnight. All games that have had some preview time and some hype to a degree.

Yes Avowed at the moment not half way through yet is a good 8/10 so far for me.

@heavyartillery56
Yes I think you have summed it up really.
God knows why it took them so long.
They definitely should have focused more on plot and story and created more major planets and got rid of that procedural stuff they did with some planets.
It felt like an old generation game in some ways for sure.

It’s not the greatest of games, some get into it.
Somehow I ended up putting in 60 hours and I don’t know where the time went, so it’s a strange game in that way.
The fps mechanics were good and the idea of the game is good.

It’s more its implementation and what seems like aging systems and UI sets that really let it down. In one way the game engine is clever in others it seems old and sluggish.

For me a love / hate type game relationship.
Have not played it for ages and once I stopped never thought of going back.

I did try it again after all the patches and adding the buggy 🛺 , made some improvements but not enough really.

It scored higher than say a game like Avowed by a few points, but I playing Avowed now and it really is a great game and worth more then Starfield to me. And would pay for Avowed but not Starfield. Of course I used game pass ultimate.

Anyway that is my honest take on Starfield.

@LiamCroft
When you say “Pro” in the title do you mean PS5 Pro footage?

@Mikey856
That’s what I’m thinking now.
The word “Pro” should be used carefully in these headlines.

When you say “Pro” in the title do you mean PS5 Pro footage?

Just bring on the third game I say, but no chance of that until PS6.
So hoping the Heretic is up there with uncharted and the last of us.

@Titntin
I’m simple trying to be truthful with what I see on my TV, what more can I say.
And the settings that seem to work for me at 60fps etc to create the best picture with less fizz when panning in certain aspects and object in the game.

I cannot make it more simple and clearer than that.
I tried to give a mature scientific answer about using different TVs, monitors as a potential reason.
But that seems to have by passed you biased mind.

@Titntin
He is more than welcome to come round as well and show me on my TV. 🤣
The only scientific thing I can think of is the screen/TV or monitor they test on is probably a lot different to a 65” A95L and maybe different processing used by the devices themselves. As I know my A95L even makes 480p TV look half good and the Switch console as well.

And if I turn certain features on the TVs own AI upscaling tech it can almost get a PS5 game looking like a Pro game to a degree.

All smoke and mirrors and artificial and AI processing, the world we live in.
That’s the only thing I can think of.

@Titntin
The last of us one and two on PS5 Pro and changing the settings are my own and that is what I see on my Sony A95L. Better with PSSR not used but using performance mode, FRA rate unlocked and VRR.
I would love to have you round and show you this, then you would go, yeah look no shimmering now when panning around in the grass and in fencing.

As for HFW burning shores, simply probably the best looking game on the Pro my own experience which as you know does not use PSSR, but their upscaling I guess

It is as simple as that and that what I see when changing settings on my TV, with those to games only.

@TheKurgan
Each to there own I guess.

@Rich33
I’m all for that as PSSR and the current FSR definitely need improving, so bring on FSR 4 I say.

@Rich33
Yes Horizon upscaler was built for that game by the studio and for that engine.
id do the same so will be interesting what upscaler they use for DOOM.

Currently I would put PSSR as doing an ok job but could do better in class, as my teacher said 🤣

The thing Xbox has is game pass ultimate and I guess that is their thing that is different to Sony and Nintendo.
And of course with the lack of games to start with has I think stagnated sales.
However if you go from late 2024 with Indy and COD then Avowed, Atomfall, south of Midnight and Doom then the first half of 2025 looks pretty good.
I think the games just need a bit more AAA polish which I think Doom will definitely have and gears of war.
Then there is older games like FH5 etc on GPU.

No advertising consoles or game pass has obviously not helped them either.
I can never work out their true intentions, then they go on about a handheld and next gen home console. It baffles me sometimes 🤣

So what’s all the research and development for with PSSR.
I think the best two looking games on Pro don’t even use PSSR well one has on option to.
Last of us one and two you can pro mode with PSSR 60fps but I find some shimmering when panning in the fencing and grass. Change to performance mode 60fps no PSSR. VRR and unlocked frame rate on and by magic the shimmering on fencing and grass is gone and the picture is pure quality when panning around the best I’ve ever seen.

HFW Burning shores is run without PSSR and uses their own upscaler from about 1800p performance 60fps, Picture looks stunning and not a hint of shimmering. Voted best Pro looking game on DF.

looking forward FSR 4.

@Lowdefal
It seems to be a new thing they started selling the PS5 and series x as well recently but only with about £30 below RRP.
I think the PS5 Pro has a good profit margin compared to the base models

The best deal I’ve seen this weekend is the PS5 Pro at £599.98 total price at Costco UK.

Goes to show at £700 someone is making lots and lots of money.

At this rate with DS2 and other games and GTA and COD and FIFA.
When the hell are they going to fit GHOST 2 in from the best of the lot Sony Studios?

The first game was not for me, but this one seems to have more action and be different.
Will wait for reviews etc to what the all important game play is like for me.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner
You sure in the UK only we are talking about UK only.
The numbers were mentioned about one week ago.

@MrMagic
Actually as you from the UK same as me.
PS5 outsells the series consoles about 2:1 in the UK.
One of the better Xbox console markets in Europe really. Probably only second to the USA.

@MrMagic
I’m referring to Europe were things could be better about 5 million behind PS4 same time line and the gap increase each month at the moment.
I don’t think we need to mention Xbox and consoles in Europe, very little point.

@Rich33
Yep really hope they have learnt, need those Sony studio big AAA games if it wasn’t for those games and there exclusivity to Sony consoles, which keep me with Sony, just about at the moment, I might as well go all series x and GPU which I have until March 2027, as the games are here since late last year and seem to keep on coming. Which really does give great value especially as I’m on the old £11.99 a month.