I see you Cat Quest. Those games were some very fast but enjoyable platinums and the second one introduced some really interesting mechanics like being able to switch between the cat and dog while the AI controlled the other one. For such small games they had a surprising amount of depth. I still have to play 3.
@BiosNova Moscow, and I left as soon as I could. First to the UK for schooling then to the USA for work. Now I'm back in the UK and getting on with life. I rarely ever go back home. The people I grew up around went even more hardcore into politics. My father was a diplomat who warned me multiple times that this very situation was coming, he never saw it play out in his time and I'm glad for that. He had the ability to make me see the truth (while putting his own life at risk) and still appearing to tow the party line. His job was hard, dangerous and all he wanted to do was create peace not conflict. I listened to every word he said, watched how he conducted himself on both sides and told myself I'd never be a pawn in someone else's politics.
This kind of polarization and discourse between communities is textbook. Destabilization only helps those who already have the power. It doesn't help communities. When people get fired up with 'it's this countries fault' you are just playing into their hands. They want that, it's a valuable tool. In the case of my home country it further expands the notion that 'well these people are your enemy because look what they are saying about us' it's very hard to vocalize. You have to live it to really understand and I wouldn't wish living it on anyone.
@BiosNova People said the same thing to me about the current situation in Ukraine. I didn't vote for that. I get what you are saying but it's dangerous to lump everyone in like that. I've seen the results firsthand. And yes I absolutely know what propaganda is, I was raised by it. I should hate the West, I don't because I'm not an idiot and I can see the forest for the trees. People are people with individual choice, painting them all with one brush is ridiculous. Especially when you assume to know their choice without actually knowing.
Most of my friends are from the UK/USA and to see this kind of thing happening is like watching a car wreck in slow motion. People are pulling apart whole communities over the actions of someone else. This isn't productive, it only shifts the blame to a softer target. And right now that target is 'Americans'. The average American gamer is no different than you or I, they didn't want this either.
@BiosNova This sounds like the kind of propaganda I was fed as a child. Then I matured and got away from it. Blaming a whole nation for 'ruining the planet' is wrong whatever way you cut it. Words like 'Americans' implies that every citizen of that nation are responsible when that's absolutely not true. I'm not agreeing with price hikes but the blame needs to be placed firmly on those in power. Not innocent people.
This site has American users too, statements like that do nothing but cause a fracture within communities. It pushes people to the side and creates a problem within that community where there wasn't one before.
@Oram77 That happened with the demo too. On reddit it came down to 'cops bad', that was literally the only fault some people could find with it. Professional reviews will probably find faults when they realize they have to sink time in to progress, and not all reviewers want to do that (especially if it's an Indie) They want to shoot reviews out like an assembly line because it's less about product visibility and more about their own visibility. We run into the exact same thing when we send out samples/Albums/EPs etc, some reviewers are just lazy and are only doing it for the perks not for the ethics of an honest review.
'The main story plays out in chunks, with new missions unlocking whenever you rack up enough evidence while out on your standard patrols.' - Not every reviewer is willing to do that, they want to be spoon-fed a campaign. Not to mention the fact that the Devs didn't say 'we are making a GTA game' and some of the faults are that it didn't live up to their GTA-like expectations.
There aren't many qualifications needed to be picked up as a reviewer for most media outlets, some people go the extra mile (this site) and others don't even do the bare minimum which is reflected in a lot of those current Metacritic reviews.
@Oram77 It sounds like you are arguing with a prepubescent boy. I'm think I'm done with this thread. Gaming is a great hobby but the level of disconnection from common sense is absolutely off the charts.
@Fishnpeas So baldness is ugly? I think someone undergoing chemotherapy, or someone who has a loved one undergoing it would disagree with that definition.
@Cornpop76 Because there are those who want to relive that scenario and they have no qualms about hijacking the gaming community to try to spread it and their behavior is unfortunately reflected on anyone who dislikes the game, it's concepts or it's character.
I then followed up with how hard it will be for people who have genuine issues with the game when it does launch. Right now it's being used as a springboard by sock-puppets and throwaway accounts to focus on the aspects of the character's gender and skin colour. I never said you were, but it is happening
We shouldn't be in a position where 'are they against the game because of race/gender/sexuality?' is even a thing. These are videogames, entertainment and much needed escapism. People with political agendas are removing actual gamers ability to just not like something for the sake of not liking it. There doesn't need to be an agenda on either side and there wouldn't be if there weren't idiots out there slamming some actress over her race and skin colour. Like I said people with genuine issues towards the game are getting lumped in with the 'haters', is that right? of course not. It's most likely going to keep happening and worsening over time.
I don't have an agenda (I learned what woke was through this site) to me games are just games and history contains a lot of lessons that are being ignored. I just think people are idiots when they say they have issues with a character because of their gender, don't they have parents? weren't they raised by a male and a female? have they never met other humans? don't they have skin? and sexuality? are they just not attracted to anyone or anything? We're all humans, nothing makes us better or worse than another person. I don't care what colour a person is, what god they pray to, who they sexually engage with. I buy games and play games, I don't want to be associated with hate filled idiots and not all games are even for me.
I don't like the position you're in either, it's completely pointless to have to defend not liking something because you don't like it. However we live in a civilized society and 'I don't like them because they are female' or 'I don't like them because they are black' can only ever mean misogyny and racism. Something no one should want to be associated with. You can continue to not like the game, and I'll continue to not like that idiots are trying to hijack my favorite hobby for their own political end. At the end of the day nothing either of us say or do will change that. Unless they just grow up or die off.
So I had a chat with The Office of Fair Trading UK today (out of curiosity) And it turns out that games are covered under an act that was passed in 2015 to protect customers on digital store fronts. They essentially said that as of now the only issue they could find is 'if' the packaging (or online listing) doesn't clearly show and specify the need for download. This includes the high street, stores would be required to notify the customer in advance (grey area as notify could vary per retailer)
Unfortunately most of the consumer rights (where possible) revolve around the right to reject faulty goods and technically the disc itself isn't faulty. If they provide a working disc that unlocks the content that they clearly state 'is required to play' then there is no deception. There can be an extension for deception if you buy the physical disc online and the attached imagery/listing doesn't warn the customer of the need to download.
Here's how they did it: 'internet connection and sufficient storage required to download and install the game and certain features/content' it's in the small print (under important information) which passes the transparency requirement. The disc not being full (when it could be) is only seen as a lack of resourcefulness in the process of production, and any losses suffered are that of the company, not the customer.
They need to be outlawed. It should be ethically wrong to waste that much plastic/consume that much energy on a file size that small, and they need to be investigated for deceptive marketing. The only reason I'd knowingly buy one of these scam discs is for collecting purposes, and I'd buy it dirt cheap. It's really disgusting as is selling a physical box with a digital code inside. The whole distribution chain needs to gets its act together. They are charging a small fortune for games now, which are classed as luxury items in some regions.
Luxury goods are defined by a combination of high quality, exclusivity, craftsmanship, and exceptional customer service. They often embody a brand story and heritage, and prioritize - [ethical and sustainable practices.]
They are already breaking sustainability by not using the total available space of those discs. It's wastage. The only reason they get around any of this is because of price perception, ever see games listed under 'hobbies?' that's how they get around it. They allowed the customer to put value on the product instead of trade practices but the price alone should be enough to qualify and it's not. If the classification were updated then by law there would be a case for these discs. Unfortunately it would be region specific and most countries don't even realize this is happening.
It could be prosecuted as wastage if it were found that they knowingly put X amount on the disc while leaving the bulk of it to be downloaded from a server/data farm because that goes against reducing energy consumption. Each country has different laws relating to energy regulation, it all depends on where that bulk download is originating and if they can prove the data could fit on the disc. It's definitely something that won't last, someone will pick up on it and companies will either have to fill the disc or go digital.
@ashipaw It costs nothing to leave a comment on a video. Game sales will determine if the company will 'go bankrupt' or not. Also what's the message they were pushing? I'm curious because you don't seem to agree with it. You mean all of the people who shaved their heads due to alopecia and no treatment due to lockdown? or is there something more to this 'message' other than baldness. I never played Stellar Blade, Dustborn or Concord so perhaps be less vague?
@Cornpop76 And the attitudes displayed by the people against that actress were all the rage between 1933 to 1945. Ticked all the boxes there too. Behaviors that are now loathed by anyone with a brain bigger than a Etruscan shrew. There's a difference between being a 'hater' and being a racist and they lose all credibility when that hate includes skin colour, gender or sexuality. There's no camouflage for that, it's blatantly obvious to anyone with the most basic of observational skills.
I'm not saying you are any of the above, people are getting lobbed in as 'haters' because the situation is absolutely deplorable and people who aren't gamers are using it to spread their ideology. The reality is that no one can tell who is who in this situation and a simple case of disliking something will appear to some as agreeing with those on the extreme end of the argument. It's going to be impossible for anyone to genuinely dislike this game when it launches, any argument they give will be seen as siding with the real haters.
@ThroughTheIris56 Sir Isaac Newton was known as a heretic prophet because of his rejection to Trinitarianism. Galileo's support for Heliocentrism labelled him one too, but only after his discoveries in the scientific revolution and the scientific method. It pops up often in human history and Intergalactic simply points to the character moving between galaxies.
It's just the IP's name 'Intergalactic' followed by the rest of the title which is probably pertaining to the story which as previously mentioned involves faith and religion. I.E. Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (spoiler they strike back) Why is that title cringey when it pertains to the actual game itself?
I learned from the GTA Trilogy. As much as I'd love to play a remastered version of GTA4 it won't be day one and it won't be until reputable sources like this site review it. I still can't believe how much of a mess the Trilogy was, playing it day one was like experiencing a really bad GTA bootleg that had no redeemable features. And I've played all kinds of GTA bootlegs, this was just broken beyond belief.
Watch this game sell regardless because the idiots who spend their time bringing up someones race, gender and hair (?) don't actually buy or play these games. They only sit on the internet all day trying to spread their own misery around in some futile attempt to make others feel as bad as they do.
I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who is so powerless in their own life that they have to make an issue out of someones skin colour or gender. Talk about not learning from history. I'd ask them not to procreate but really if they don't like women then I don't see how that's even possible. 🥤
Fallout3, it's a very dark and gritty game. I'd like to see how it would look with better light/textures. Especially the underground sections, I imagine it would feel very Metro. Then there's the DLCs too, probably my favorites in the franchise. The leak said it's coming next, I'll be happy if it's true.
Sometimes humans are just so pathetic and yet the world keeps turning, and would keep turning without them. Imagine being so bitter about (without?) love that you make it about hate and bigotry.
Absolutely mind boggling how folks with functioning brains can't just get on with their own lives and not worry so much about everyone else's (especially in a fictional framework) Review Bombing really is the modern personification of 'misery loves company'.
@KundaliniRising333 I wonder how much plastic/energy it takes to produce an 85MB disc. That alone should probably be illegal. It makes me wonder if the time it takes to burn a smaller file instead of a large file actually impacts the manufacturing process and if they save money by spending the little bit less time creating the disc. It feels like a really sketchy way to cut costs because a consumer unit could take 15 to 30mins depending on 4x or 6x and that's for 25GBs. The more you pay the faster the process but whatever way you cut it 85MBs would take no time at all.
@LogicStrikesAgain I don't know what's worse, buying a collectors edition and getting a box with a code or buying a physical edition and getting a disc with a less than 100mb file on it. I thought Ubi were nuts when they said we needed to get used to not owning our games but now I see it.
@get2sammyb Someone really needs to start deep diving into what companies are allowed to pull off when selling products like that. It seems to brush very close to deceptive practices. What happens if someone buys the game, brings it home and for whatever reason they don't actually have an internet connection. I know it's 2025 and internet is actually a human right in some places but this all feels so shady. I don't know of any other market where you'd get away with this. If anything kills the physical market it will be practices like that because no one will want to buy them.
Taking a break from gaming this weekend. Minecraft deciding to break every version of my game with just one update really put me off wanting to pick up a controller for a few days. Had I not made multiple back-ups they'd have corrupted 10yrs of work. I'm going to go shooting (not animals) and do some off-roading. I was going to try Balatro but everyone tells me it's very addictive. Enjoy your gaming folks!
I'd just finished a large chunk of One Hyde Park (by my favorite architects Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners, I've built almost everything they've built in real life) and Knightsbridge along with the interiors for Rolex, McLaren Automotive, Abu Dhabi Bank. Then decided 'oh a new update I better grab that', now I can't load into my world.
I finished work on the Blackwall Basin exit too (that was tricky) it's not just running in a straight line, the bridge/markings etc are all running on on diagonal. There was a lot of sketching out on graph paper before I could find a technique that would work.
Then also got most of The Ivy built, I had to book dinner to get a better look at the interior again but I think I pulled it off. At the back is The Grandstand Bar, also complete is the HSBC lobby/first three office floors and fully complete to the left is 5 Canada Square (LSEG) that was a fun lobby to build. But yeah I can't build more until they fix the game. I wanted to build the Mandarin Oriental this weekend, it's a beautiful building.
@PlatinumMikey I know of A63 we share the same heritage so to speak. I haven't seen one up close but have with other Kamaz and Maz, the big ICBM runners too (including payloads 800KT) Absolutely gigantic. That's how I found Mudrunner it was big in Russian gaming communities. I never thought it would even come across to console, or that it would spawn a whole franchise. Saber has a studio in St.Petersburg that's where they developed most of Mudrunner/Snowrunner, now they are working out of Armenia.
That's how they delivered such accuracy with the vehicles. It's still a very complicated situation, I'm glad they were able to pull off Roadcraft. I left the Snowrunner community, that too became complicated. Roadcraft has many Russian, Ukranian, Belarusian vehicles, so I'll see what happens there. To me a game is just a game, I just want to find time to play it.
@PlatinumMikey Really good actually. It's the one from the Christopher Nolan movies, it was pretty much built for off roading. It would never make it to console, they are far more strict with console mods especially when there's a license involved. I had one in Farming Simulator too. Also BatTractor.
@QwarktasticLombax That's why I've been passing on VR too. I played an ultra realistic mode on Wildlands not too long and had to tap out. It was modded into first person and looked amazing but it gave me motion sickness.
@PlatinumMikey Probably PS5, I didn't realize it was so close. I'm trying to move around work schedules so I can actually play it. The same for Death Stranding 2. I'm curious if we'll get Mods on console, Snowrunner eventually got some. But I got to use the Batmobile on PC so there's that too.
@PlatinumMikey It's a fun plat, I did it on PS4 then tried on PS5 but I think I didn't finish. I remember trying to do something on PS5/PC at the same time to deal with something tricky but I'm pretty sure I left it and went to do something else. I definitely got 100% in the original Mudrunner, that was my introduction to the series. Then Snowrunner came along and did it all even better. I skipped Expeditions, like a lot of people.
As much as I love the games, I can't for the life of me remember which version I played. I would guess the UK dub but it may have been a USA import. I'll have to listen to some playthroughs.
What counts as active? If someone buys a console and plays offline for months at a time, are they active? or is it down to subscription models and games with online elements?
Snowrunner is one of my favorite games and the demo for Roadcraft on Steam sold it to me in about 5mins. They took many of my favorite elements from Mudrunner, Snowrunner and Construction Simulator then built something that really works. I'm hoping it gets supported as much as Snowrunner with many DLC packs for the foreseeable future.
I'd be happy if they just let us download games like Fallout3 and many others on Premium rather than have to stream them. I've tested it with all kinds of great internet and it still never feels the same. If they want start somewhere they can start there. Of course if they released a machine that could magically play ps1/ps2/ps3 games I'd buy one in a nanosecond.
@Areus It gets easier late game when you unlock everything then visit every pick-up in the game world and grab it all in bulk. A lot of it was other players missing packages too. Also the boxes stacked with items that other players tapped out on. Those big heavy cylinders were always left abandoned. I probably broke Sam's back 100 times over. I've no idea what max lvl is but mine says 330. Maybe I did hit max lvl after all, the star went fully purple and unlocked S/Legend.
I remember getting through the bible/the Egyptian book of the dead and the Tibetan book of the dead (audiobooks) while I walked. It added to the surrealness of the game. Especially when I realized Kojima had actually borrowed so much from the Egyptian book of the dead and put it in Death Stranding. It's the ultimate walking/audiobook game. Just a finely crafted openworld and a job to do, to deliver those packages rain or shine. I'm still walking around Oblivion, 200hrs of just walking from town to town questing/looting. I don't even know if Death Stranding had fast travel.
I managed to get 350hrs out of my first playthrough. I think I delivered one million packages. I'd have to check my screenshots. Edit: Lots of pics of Sam in the shower but no stat screen. There's another 200hrs on the Director's Cut.
I'll preorder it and play it day one but I'm not all that hyped really. I look at it more as I'm curious to see the story, the world, hear the music and not touch the online. I like Rockstar's story telling and world design, but I'm not losing sleep over it. I try not to get too hyped over massive franchises anymore, especially when it's a year out and I still think those leaks did some damage to my hype meter. I remember playing some of the older games and not even knowing there was a new one out (especially when the store broke the street date/this wasn't the UK) and then being surprised and racing home to play it. I went to the GTA5 midnight launch, felt the hype, got home, played for an hour and went to sleep. I'm not doing that again.
I'm happy enough with linear. I played all of the old games and if you asked what I did in their open worlds I couldn't tell you. It's a complete blur. The stories however are crystal clear.
It looks great but the driving gives me flashbacks to that one trophy and all of the videos of 'it's easy dawg just lean your stick like this, do this with X then slide' and it never worked. If you've played the old ones you'll know what mission I mean.
@dardel I play all my RTS games on a controller. Age of Empires played fine on Xbox, Age of Mythology played fine on PS5 (after a few hours) some games implement it better like Aliens Dark Descent and Anno. I've tried with a mouse and it's a little faster but for an RTS faster doesn't always mean better since it takes time to decide your next move. The only downside I ever found with playing an RTS on console is being absolutely murdered by PC players through crossplay.
Some console RTS games use mouse and keyboard, it just depends on the game. When that's the case (and if handled right) you can just map your controls/hotkeys. Age of Mythology had mouse/keyboard on PS5, I imagine Age of Empires has it too. lots of games work with a mouse and keyboard, from AC: Valhalla to Diablo 4. I'm pretty sure I used it for Day-z on PS5 too, I'm 99% sure, it's been a while.
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Re: Major Assassin's Creed Shadows Patch Dated, Teases Dead by Daylight Crossover Quest
Damn so much hate for that glorious mount. Imagine my surprise when I saw them with two legs not four.
Re: 25+ PS5, PS4 Games You Must Buy Cheap in PS Store's Indie Sale
I see you Cat Quest. Those games were some very fast but enjoyable platinums and the second one introduced some really interesting mechanics like being able to switch between the cat and dog while the AI controlled the other one. For such small games they had a surprising amount of depth. I still have to play 3.
Re: Even More PS5 Price Increases Being Considered by Sony
@BiosNova Moscow, and I left as soon as I could. First to the UK for schooling then to the USA for work. Now I'm back in the UK and getting on with life. I rarely ever go back home. The people I grew up around went even more hardcore into politics. My father was a diplomat who warned me multiple times that this very situation was coming, he never saw it play out in his time and I'm glad for that. He had the ability to make me see the truth (while putting his own life at risk) and still appearing to tow the party line. His job was hard, dangerous and all he wanted to do was create peace not conflict. I listened to every word he said, watched how he conducted himself on both sides and told myself I'd never be a pawn in someone else's politics.
This kind of polarization and discourse between communities is textbook. Destabilization only helps those who already have the power. It doesn't help communities. When people get fired up with 'it's this countries fault' you are just playing into their hands. They want that, it's a valuable tool. In the case of my home country it further expands the notion that 'well these people are your enemy because look what they are saying about us' it's very hard to vocalize. You have to live it to really understand and I wouldn't wish living it on anyone.
Re: Even More PS5 Price Increases Being Considered by Sony
@BiosNova People said the same thing to me about the current situation in Ukraine. I didn't vote for that. I get what you are saying but it's dangerous to lump everyone in like that. I've seen the results firsthand. And yes I absolutely know what propaganda is, I was raised by it. I should hate the West, I don't because I'm not an idiot and I can see the forest for the trees. People are people with individual choice, painting them all with one brush is ridiculous. Especially when you assume to know their choice without actually knowing.
Most of my friends are from the UK/USA and to see this kind of thing happening is like watching a car wreck in slow motion. People are pulling apart whole communities over the actions of someone else. This isn't productive, it only shifts the blame to a softer target. And right now that target is 'Americans'. The average American gamer is no different than you or I, they didn't want this either.
Re: Even More PS5 Price Increases Being Considered by Sony
@BiosNova This sounds like the kind of propaganda I was fed as a child. Then I matured and got away from it. Blaming a whole nation for 'ruining the planet' is wrong whatever way you cut it. Words like 'Americans' implies that every citizen of that nation are responsible when that's absolutely not true. I'm not agreeing with price hikes but the blame needs to be placed firmly on those in power. Not innocent people.
This site has American users too, statements like that do nothing but cause a fracture within communities. It pushes people to the side and creates a problem within that community where there wasn't one before.
Re: The Precinct (PS5) - GTA-Style Sandbox Is a Dynamic, Addictive Cop Movie Homage
@Oram77 That happened with the demo too. On reddit it came down to 'cops bad', that was literally the only fault some people could find with it. Professional reviews will probably find faults when they realize they have to sink time in to progress, and not all reviewers want to do that (especially if it's an Indie) They want to shoot reviews out like an assembly line because it's less about product visibility and more about their own visibility. We run into the exact same thing when we send out samples/Albums/EPs etc, some reviewers are just lazy and are only doing it for the perks not for the ethics of an honest review.
'The main story plays out in chunks, with new missions unlocking whenever you rack up enough evidence while out on your standard patrols.' - Not every reviewer is willing to do that, they want to be spoon-fed a campaign. Not to mention the fact that the Devs didn't say 'we are making a GTA game' and some of the faults are that it didn't live up to their GTA-like expectations.
There aren't many qualifications needed to be picked up as a reviewer for most media outlets, some people go the extra mile (this site) and others don't even do the bare minimum which is reflected in a lot of those current Metacritic reviews.
Re: The Precinct (PS5) - GTA-Style Sandbox Is a Dynamic, Addictive Cop Movie Homage
I think my Amazon copy arrived this morning. I loved the Steam demo, it looks like Oblivion might have to go on timeout.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Star 'Bootcamp-ing' with Neil Druckmann to Ignore the Haters
@Oram77 It sounds like you are arguing with a prepubescent boy. I'm think I'm done with this thread. Gaming is a great hobby but the level of disconnection from common sense is absolutely off the charts.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Star 'Bootcamp-ing' with Neil Druckmann to Ignore the Haters
@Fishnpeas So baldness is ugly? I think someone undergoing chemotherapy, or someone who has a loved one undergoing it would disagree with that definition.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Star 'Bootcamp-ing' with Neil Druckmann to Ignore the Haters
@Cornpop76 Because there are those who want to relive that scenario and they have no qualms about hijacking the gaming community to try to spread it and their behavior is unfortunately reflected on anyone who dislikes the game, it's concepts or it's character.
I then followed up with how hard it will be for people who have genuine issues with the game when it does launch. Right now it's being used as a springboard by sock-puppets and throwaway accounts to focus on the aspects of the character's gender and skin colour. I never said you were, but it is happening
We shouldn't be in a position where 'are they against the game because of race/gender/sexuality?' is even a thing. These are videogames, entertainment and much needed escapism. People with political agendas are removing actual gamers ability to just not like something for the sake of not liking it. There doesn't need to be an agenda on either side and there wouldn't be if there weren't idiots out there slamming some actress over her race and skin colour. Like I said people with genuine issues towards the game are getting lumped in with the 'haters', is that right? of course not. It's most likely going to keep happening and worsening over time.
I don't have an agenda (I learned what woke was through this site) to me games are just games and history contains a lot of lessons that are being ignored. I just think people are idiots when they say they have issues with a character because of their gender, don't they have parents? weren't they raised by a male and a female? have they never met other humans? don't they have skin? and sexuality? are they just not attracted to anyone or anything? We're all humans, nothing makes us better or worse than another person. I don't care what colour a person is, what god they pray to, who they sexually engage with. I buy games and play games, I don't want to be associated with hate filled idiots and not all games are even for me.
I don't like the position you're in either, it's completely pointless to have to defend not liking something because you don't like it. However we live in a civilized society and 'I don't like them because they are female' or 'I don't like them because they are black' can only ever mean misogyny and racism. Something no one should want to be associated with. You can continue to not like the game, and I'll continue to not like that idiots are trying to hijack my favorite hobby for their own political end. At the end of the day nothing either of us say or do will change that. Unless they just grow up or die off.
Re: Reaction: Game Key PS5 Discs Are a Disgrace, and Sony Should Put a Stop to Them
So I had a chat with The Office of Fair Trading UK today (out of curiosity) And it turns out that games are covered under an act that was passed in 2015 to protect customers on digital store fronts. They essentially said that as of now the only issue they could find is 'if' the packaging (or online listing) doesn't clearly show and specify the need for download. This includes the high street, stores would be required to notify the customer in advance (grey area as notify could vary per retailer)
Unfortunately most of the consumer rights (where possible) revolve around the right to reject faulty goods and technically the disc itself isn't faulty. If they provide a working disc that unlocks the content that they clearly state 'is required to play' then there is no deception. There can be an extension for deception if you buy the physical disc online and the attached imagery/listing doesn't warn the customer of the need to download.
Here's how they did it: 'internet connection and sufficient storage required to download and install the game and certain features/content' it's in the small print (under important information) which passes the transparency requirement. The disc not being full (when it could be) is only seen as a lack of resourcefulness in the process of production, and any losses suffered are that of the company, not the customer.
Re: Reaction: Game Key PS5 Discs Are a Disgrace, and Sony Should Put a Stop to Them
They need to be outlawed. It should be ethically wrong to waste that much plastic/consume that much energy on a file size that small, and they need to be investigated for deceptive marketing. The only reason I'd knowingly buy one of these scam discs is for collecting purposes, and I'd buy it dirt cheap. It's really disgusting as is selling a physical box with a digital code inside. The whole distribution chain needs to gets its act together. They are charging a small fortune for games now, which are classed as luxury items in some regions.
Luxury goods are defined by a combination of high quality, exclusivity, craftsmanship, and exceptional customer service. They often embody a brand story and heritage, and prioritize - [ethical and sustainable practices.]
They are already breaking sustainability by not using the total available space of those discs. It's wastage. The only reason they get around any of this is because of price perception, ever see games listed under 'hobbies?' that's how they get around it. They allowed the customer to put value on the product instead of trade practices but the price alone should be enough to qualify and it's not. If the classification were updated then by law there would be a case for these discs. Unfortunately it would be region specific and most countries don't even realize this is happening.
It could be prosecuted as wastage if it were found that they knowingly put X amount on the disc while leaving the bulk of it to be downloaded from a server/data farm because that goes against reducing energy consumption. Each country has different laws relating to energy regulation, it all depends on where that bulk download is originating and if they can prove the data could fit on the disc. It's definitely something that won't last, someone will pick up on it and companies will either have to fill the disc or go digital.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Star 'Bootcamp-ing' with Neil Druckmann to Ignore the Haters
@ashipaw It costs nothing to leave a comment on a video. Game sales will determine if the company will 'go bankrupt' or not. Also what's the message they were pushing? I'm curious because you don't seem to agree with it. You mean all of the people who shaved their heads due to alopecia and no treatment due to lockdown? or is there something more to this 'message' other than baldness. I never played Stellar Blade, Dustborn or Concord so perhaps be less vague?
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Star 'Bootcamp-ing' with Neil Druckmann to Ignore the Haters
@Cornpop76 And the attitudes displayed by the people against that actress were all the rage between 1933 to 1945. Ticked all the boxes there too. Behaviors that are now loathed by anyone with a brain bigger than a Etruscan shrew. There's a difference between being a 'hater' and being a racist and they lose all credibility when that hate includes skin colour, gender or sexuality. There's no camouflage for that, it's blatantly obvious to anyone with the most basic of observational skills.
I'm not saying you are any of the above, people are getting lobbed in as 'haters' because the situation is absolutely deplorable and people who aren't gamers are using it to spread their ideology. The reality is that no one can tell who is who in this situation and a simple case of disliking something will appear to some as agreeing with those on the extreme end of the argument. It's going to be impossible for anyone to genuinely dislike this game when it launches, any argument they give will be seen as siding with the real haters.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Star 'Bootcamp-ing' with Neil Druckmann to Ignore the Haters
@ThroughTheIris56 Sir Isaac Newton was known as a heretic prophet because of his rejection to Trinitarianism. Galileo's support for Heliocentrism labelled him one too, but only after his discoveries in the scientific revolution and the scientific method. It pops up often in human history and Intergalactic simply points to the character moving between galaxies.
It's just the IP's name 'Intergalactic' followed by the rest of the title which is probably pertaining to the story which as previously mentioned involves faith and religion. I.E. Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (spoiler they strike back) Why is that title cringey when it pertains to the actual game itself?
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Star 'Bootcamp-ing' with Neil Druckmann to Ignore the Haters
@Shepherd_Tallon I'll just stick with the milkshake🥤✊
Re: GTA 4 Could Be Getting a PS5 Port to Help Ease the Wait for the Next Game
I learned from the GTA Trilogy. As much as I'd love to play a remastered version of GTA4 it won't be day one and it won't be until reputable sources like this site review it. I still can't believe how much of a mess the Trilogy was, playing it day one was like experiencing a really bad GTA bootleg that had no redeemable features. And I've played all kinds of GTA bootlegs, this was just broken beyond belief.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Star 'Bootcamp-ing' with Neil Druckmann to Ignore the Haters
Watch this game sell regardless because the idiots who spend their time bringing up someones race, gender and hair (?) don't actually buy or play these games. They only sit on the internet all day trying to spread their own misery around in some futile attempt to make others feel as bad as they do.
I genuinely feel sorry for anyone who is so powerless in their own life that they have to make an issue out of someones skin colour or gender. Talk about not learning from history. I'd ask them not to procreate but really if they don't like women then I don't see how that's even possible. 🥤
Re: Poll: Which Bethesda RPG Needs an Oblivion-Style Remaster Next?
Fallout3, it's a very dark and gritty game. I'd like to see how it would look with better light/textures. Especially the underground sections, I imagine it would feel very Metro. Then there's the DLCs too, probably my favorites in the franchise. The leak said it's coming next, I'll be happy if it's true.
Re: Just Like the Game, The Last of Us 2's TV Adaptation Is Getting Review Bombed
Sometimes humans are just so pathetic and yet the world keeps turning, and would keep turning without them. Imagine being so bitter about (without?) love that you make it about hate and bigotry.
Absolutely mind boggling how folks with functioning brains can't just get on with their own lives and not worry so much about everyone else's (especially in a fictional framework) Review Bombing really is the modern personification of 'misery loves company'.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 580
@RaZieLDaNtE Thanks I had no idea they made a second one. The concept of the first one was so good, I'll see if I can get it for the Switch.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 580
@RaZieLDaNtE They made a second Ender Lillies?
Re: PS5 Fans Furious As Microsoft Ships DOOM: The Dark Ages with Just 85MB on the Disc
@KundaliniRising333 I wonder how much plastic/energy it takes to produce an 85MB disc. That alone should probably be illegal. It makes me wonder if the time it takes to burn a smaller file instead of a large file actually impacts the manufacturing process and if they save money by spending the little bit less time creating the disc. It feels like a really sketchy way to cut costs because a consumer unit could take 15 to 30mins depending on 4x or 6x and that's for 25GBs. The more you pay the faster the process but whatever way you cut it 85MBs would take no time at all.
Re: PS5 Fans Furious As Microsoft Ships DOOM: The Dark Ages with Just 85MB on the Disc
@LogicStrikesAgain I don't know what's worse, buying a collectors edition and getting a box with a code or buying a physical edition and getting a disc with a less than 100mb file on it. I thought Ubi were nuts when they said we needed to get used to not owning our games but now I see it.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 580
@Zuljaras Oh I thought they were medical paddles, okay now it make so much more sense. I bookmarked your page so I can have a proper look later!
Re: PS5 Fans Furious As Microsoft Ships DOOM: The Dark Ages with Just 85MB on the Disc
@get2sammyb Someone really needs to start deep diving into what companies are allowed to pull off when selling products like that. It seems to brush very close to deceptive practices. What happens if someone buys the game, brings it home and for whatever reason they don't actually have an internet connection. I know it's 2025 and internet is actually a human right in some places but this all feels so shady. I don't know of any other market where you'd get away with this. If anything kills the physical market it will be practices like that because no one will want to buy them.
Re: PS5 Fans Furious As Microsoft Ships DOOM: The Dark Ages with Just 85MB on the Disc
I thought that was a rumor, I'm glad I didn't preorder after all. I was very close to buying this physical, now I don't even want it digital.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 580
@Zuljaras Looks great, what's your Doom guy holding?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 580
Taking a break from gaming this weekend. Minecraft deciding to break every version of my game with just one update really put me off wanting to pick up a controller for a few days. Had I not made multiple back-ups they'd have corrupted 10yrs of work. I'm going to go shooting (not animals) and do some off-roading. I was going to try Balatro but everyone tells me it's very addictive. Enjoy your gaming folks!
I'd just finished a large chunk of One Hyde Park (by my favorite architects Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners, I've built almost everything they've built in real life) and Knightsbridge along with the interiors for Rolex, McLaren Automotive, Abu Dhabi Bank. Then decided 'oh a new update I better grab that', now I can't load into my world.
I finished work on the Blackwall Basin exit too (that was tricky) it's not just running in a straight line, the bridge/markings etc are all running on on diagonal. There was a lot of sketching out on graph paper before I could find a technique that would work.
Then also got most of The Ivy built, I had to book dinner to get a better look at the interior again but I think I pulled it off. At the back is The Grandstand Bar, also complete is the HSBC lobby/first three office floors and fully complete to the left is 5 Canada Square (LSEG) that was a fun lobby to build. But yeah I can't build more until they fix the game. I wanted to build the Mandarin Oriental this weekend, it's a beautiful building.
Re: We Didn't Expect a Trailer for Construction Sim RoadCraft to Make Us Feel All Warm and Fuzzy
@PlatinumMikey I know of A63 we share the same heritage so to speak. I haven't seen one up close but have with other Kamaz and Maz, the big ICBM runners too (including payloads 800KT) Absolutely gigantic. That's how I found Mudrunner it was big in Russian gaming communities. I never thought it would even come across to console, or that it would spawn a whole franchise. Saber has a studio in St.Petersburg that's where they developed most of Mudrunner/Snowrunner, now they are working out of Armenia.
That's how they delivered such accuracy with the vehicles. It's still a very complicated situation, I'm glad they were able to pull off Roadcraft. I left the Snowrunner community, that too became complicated. Roadcraft has many Russian, Ukranian, Belarusian vehicles, so I'll see what happens there. To me a game is just a game, I just want to find time to play it.
Re: We Didn't Expect a Trailer for Construction Sim RoadCraft to Make Us Feel All Warm and Fuzzy
@PlatinumMikey Really good actually. It's the one from the Christopher Nolan movies, it was pretty much built for off roading. It would never make it to console, they are far more strict with console mods especially when there's a license involved. I had one in Farming Simulator too. Also BatTractor.
Re: A Useful New PS5 Welcome Hub Widget Is Rolling Out to Some Users in Beta
@themightyant 898 screenshots too, of what?
Re: Alien: Rogue Incursion Drops PSVR2 Requirement with Evolved Edition on PS5 This September
@QwarktasticLombax That's why I've been passing on VR too. I played an ultra realistic mode on Wildlands not too long and had to tap out. It was modded into first person and looked amazing but it gave me motion sickness.
I might try this version of Incursion instead.
Re: Random: This Anime About School Girls Who Play Street Fighter 6 Could Be One to Watch
I wasn't ready for that thumbnail.
Re: We Didn't Expect a Trailer for Construction Sim RoadCraft to Make Us Feel All Warm and Fuzzy
@PlatinumMikey Probably PS5, I didn't realize it was so close. I'm trying to move around work schedules so I can actually play it. The same for Death Stranding 2. I'm curious if we'll get Mods on console, Snowrunner eventually got some. But I got to use the Batmobile on PC so there's that too.
Re: We Didn't Expect a Trailer for Construction Sim RoadCraft to Make Us Feel All Warm and Fuzzy
@PlatinumMikey It's a fun plat, I did it on PS4 then tried on PS5 but I think I didn't finish. I remember trying to do something on PS5/PC at the same time to deal with something tricky but I'm pretty sure I left it and went to do something else. I definitely got 100% in the original Mudrunner, that was my introduction to the series. Then Snowrunner came along and did it all even better. I skipped Expeditions, like a lot of people.
Re: GEX Trilogy Revives a Forgotten PS1 Mascot from 16th June
As much as I love the games, I can't for the life of me remember which version I played. I would guess the UK dub but it may have been a USA import. I'll have to listen to some playthroughs.
Re: PS5's Share of Active US Players Is Slowly Beginning to Pummel Xbox
What counts as active? If someone buys a console and plays offline for months at a time, are they active? or is it down to subscription models and games with online elements?
Re: We Didn't Expect a Trailer for Construction Sim RoadCraft to Make Us Feel All Warm and Fuzzy
Snowrunner is one of my favorite games and the demo for Roadcraft on Steam sold it to me in about 5mins. They took many of my favorite elements from Mudrunner, Snowrunner and Construction Simulator then built something that really works. I'm hoping it gets supported as much as Snowrunner with many DLC packs for the foreseeable future.
Re: Gallery: Death Stranding 2 PS5 Screenshots Take Guerrilla's Decima Engine to New Horizons
Urge to deliver packages rising.
Re: Xbox Is Stepping Up Its Backwards Compatibility Efforts Again, to the Envy of PS5 Fans
I'd be happy if they just let us download games like Fallout3 and many others on Premium rather than have to stream them. I've tested it with all kinds of great internet and it still never feels the same. If they want start somewhere they can start there. Of course if they released a machine that could magically play ps1/ps2/ps3 games I'd buy one in a nanosecond.
Re: Death Stranding 2's PS5 Story Could Take a Monstrous 75 Hours to Beat
@Areus It gets easier late game when you unlock everything then visit every pick-up in the game world and grab it all in bulk. A lot of it was other players missing packages too. Also the boxes stacked with items that other players tapped out on. Those big heavy cylinders were always left abandoned. I probably broke Sam's back 100 times over. I've no idea what max lvl is but mine says 330. Maybe I did hit max lvl after all, the star went fully purple and unlocked S/Legend.
I remember getting through the bible/the Egyptian book of the dead and the Tibetan book of the dead (audiobooks) while I walked. It added to the surrealness of the game. Especially when I realized Kojima had actually borrowed so much from the Egyptian book of the dead and put it in Death Stranding. It's the ultimate walking/audiobook game. Just a finely crafted openworld and a job to do, to deliver those packages rain or shine. I'm still walking around Oblivion, 200hrs of just walking from town to town questing/looting. I don't even know if Death Stranding had fast travel.
Re: Death Stranding 2's PS5 Story Could Take a Monstrous 75 Hours to Beat
I managed to get 350hrs out of my first playthrough. I think I delivered one million packages. I'd have to check my screenshots. Edit: Lots of pics of Sam in the shower but no stat screen. There's another 200hrs on the Director's Cut.
Re: You Don't Have Much Time Left to Take Advantage of Expedition 33's Strongest Attack
@Kairuuu I completely agree (goes back to doing 950% more dmg on my broken dagger in Oblivion) but billions? that's way too much.
Re: You Don't Have Much Time Left to Take Advantage of Expedition 33's Strongest Attack
@Oram77 I saw memes of that attack, it's already that well known.
Re: Poll: Are You Hyped for GTA 6 After Trailer 2?
I'll preorder it and play it day one but I'm not all that hyped really. I look at it more as I'm curious to see the story, the world, hear the music and not touch the online. I like Rockstar's story telling and world design, but I'm not losing sleep over it. I try not to get too hyped over massive franchises anymore, especially when it's a year out and I still think those leaks did some damage to my hype meter. I remember playing some of the older games and not even knowing there was a new one out (especially when the store broke the street date/this wasn't the UK) and then being surprised and racing home to play it. I went to the GTA5 midnight launch, felt the hype, got home, played for an hour and went to sleep. I'm not doing that again.
Re: Mafia: The Old Country Ditches Open World for Linear, Story-Based Gameplay on PS5
I'm happy enough with linear. I played all of the old games and if you asked what I did in their open worlds I couldn't tell you. It's a complete blur. The stories however are crystal clear.
Re: Mafia: The Old Country Looks Glorious in Gameplay Trailer, PS5 Release Date Confirmed
It looks great but the driving gives me flashbacks to that one trophy and all of the videos of 'it's easy dawg just lean your stick like this, do this with X then slide' and it never worked. If you've played the old ones you'll know what mission I mean.
Re: Control 2's Budget Won't Be as Big as Alan Wake 2, But Remedy's Confident It'll Be Excellent
So that's Alan Wake, Alan Wake 2, Control and now Control 2 to the backlog.
Re: Age of Empires 2 Has One of PS5's Biggest Ever Trophy Lists, But It's 99% Bronze
@dardel I play all my RTS games on a controller. Age of Empires played fine on Xbox, Age of Mythology played fine on PS5 (after a few hours) some games implement it better like Aliens Dark Descent and Anno. I've tried with a mouse and it's a little faster but for an RTS faster doesn't always mean better since it takes time to decide your next move. The only downside I ever found with playing an RTS on console is being absolutely murdered by PC players through crossplay.
Some console RTS games use mouse and keyboard, it just depends on the game. When that's the case (and if handled right) you can just map your controls/hotkeys. Age of Mythology had mouse/keyboard on PS5, I imagine Age of Empires has it too. lots of games work with a mouse and keyboard, from AC: Valhalla to Diablo 4. I'm pretty sure I used it for Day-z on PS5 too, I'm 99% sure, it's been a while.