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I don't like this consolidation era we have entered but if it's going to be the path going forward then all I care about is Sega and Square Enix. Microsoft can throw their money at the rest all they want.

And y'know, Sega has started putting out Sonic movies.. and So y have a movie company.

In the other hand Square Enix has Final Fantasy slowly going down the GaaS route which, as much as I hate it, fits with Sony's desire for service games.

Not only that but I'm convinced Sony has hired someone from Nintendo to name those tiers for them.

I mean to a lot of people out of the 'bubble' WiiU and 'NEW' Nintendo 3DS XL really confused a lot of people.

I mean what are we gonna call them short hand? 'PPE' (tier1) also 'PPE' (tier2) and PPP (tier3).
That's a lot of confusing P's.

@LtSarge
I've got no doubt that day one first parties won't happen. They still have healthy sales of their titles. If they were to add first party titles around a year after release when they've had good sales, then.... Maybe.. it might be successful.

I mean if they're going into the services route then they will need a kick up the butt because GamePass already has a big, almost five year head start and a lot of recognition.

I mean, as I said while I do like my PlayStation I have scepticism on how Sony handles things, they can be pretty dumb. I guess time will tell, but I still hold firm against services because of my old fashioned ways of just buying a game. I still haven't even embraced digital distribution so the future going in this direction is a tough nut to swallow.

@LtSarge
These services do nothing for me personally and I don't or won't be subscribing to any of them other than the ability to play online.

I know the 'premium' tier sounds a bit like GamePass but in practice it would need big and recent third party deals along with their own first parties (not necessarily day one) to even come close to competing.

It all depends how pro-active they are on securing recent and frequent games to the service or they've already lost to GamePass. And this is coming from someone who prefers PlayStation.

@Rural-Bandit
I can actually understand where you're coming from and I hugely dislike hypocrisy. Personally speaking these services, both Sony's new one and GamePass do nothing for me because when it comes to new/current machines I prefer to buy games outright and for old games, I still have my PS1/2/3 working perfectly.

@SoulChimera
Are the replacement springs you bought identical to the new ones? Or maybe better/stronger?

I might even consider doing that myself because I always feel a little anxiety towards triggers in PlayStation controllers. It's happened to one PS3, one PS4 and now one PS5.
I look after stuff very well but they've never been very reliable.

I replaced the springs in my DS3 and DS4 in the past.
I don't think much of the new colours for the DualSense controllers and replacing the springs with stronger ones would be better than buying a new controller just for that.

@Voltan
I've seen the videos of the supposed improvement to the springs at 0.36mm. Not sure if it will do much in performance, I suppose we'll see. I just assumed that the added pressure for some games weakened the springs.

Although that did also happen on one of my DualShock 4's too. I don't think Sony are very good when it comes to triggers personally and I feel that Xbox controllers are better at that. Even though both have their pros and cons.

For one thing in PlayStation's favour I do think their D-Pads are better than Xbox controllers and always have been.

While it's a great controller it's not without its flaws. My DualSense triggers became loose and very sensitive to a simple light finger rest on them four months in on a launch console.

I think this was due to the pressure adaptive feedback on them. Sony replaced it under warranty and I've disabled the trigger feature without issue since.

I've always felt that the triggers on Xbox controllers are far better. Never had an issue with them.

I also use thumbtacks over the sticks because I don't like how they feel. They're not 'grippy' enough for me but I do this on every controller.

I also miss the iconic colours for the shapes.

Definitely Metal Gear Acid/2 for me. A different approach with the card based system but the strategic gameplay grew on me.

Another underated game was Death Jr.

@Luigia
What are you even getting at? It has happened in a similar fashion on Xbox in the past. There were complaints then, just like there are complaints against Sony right now.

You're trying to insinuate that typical Xbox mentality of 'Sony can do no wrong' the fans spoke out and the situation reversed. It's not like Xbox fans say, that Sony fans let them get away with everything.

I'm sorry, you say otherwise but you definitely sound like an Xbox fanboy with that comment.

Well, this solidifies my decision to not buy this for my GT loving step dad for father's Day. He'd be outraged when he sees the MTX. He hates MTX's.

@kyleforrester87
I went down to CeX on Saturday evening to pick up the one and only copy they had for PS5 and after walking for a little over two miles at a brisk walk someone literally picked it off the shelf when I walked in. I was pi**ed.

I only went there because I wanted to play with a friend that night. There are no other game shops in my tiny town so I'm waiting for it to arrive this morning.

They had plenty of PS4 copies though, but I wanted the PS5 version.

When I read the word 'Dino Crisis' I felt a rush of blood shoot to my brain and had an OMG moment.

...Until I clicked the link and discovered it's not actually Dino Crisis. My hopes and dreams came crashing down. There are no words yet invented for my disappointment.

I was thinking about buying it for my step-dad because he loves Gran Turismo games. But I I'm hearing conflicted comments about it needing a constant online connection.

He just wants single player and doesn't have PSPlus so I don't know if I should get it for him. Plus he hates MTX's.
His internet is pretty crappy so he'd prefer to play offline and I don't know how much of the game is behind MTX's.

@Squanch
That was after a lot of backlash though to be fair. It could go either way if they continue or abandon that practice. One would hope they realise how it makes them look considering they need to attract people to their new console.

With more and more developers offering free upgrades this is just going to make Sony look bad more and more. They'll have to cave in eventually.

I'm sure they are the only, or very few, people charging for 'upgrades'.

I still play mine. It's still connected next to my PS5, Switch and WiiU. Was playing Mercenaries 2 on it not long ago.

I would have thought support for it ended long ago since production and warranties would have expired. I'm sure there are people out there that are going to make this into a bigger deal than it is, because... Sony.

@wiiware
Steam did have a console once called the Steam Box. It went largely unnoticed and faded away after about 18 months. Some manufacturers were making their variants like Asus and such but I'm not surprised you never heard of it.

I would personally wait for a smaller Deck since this one looks a bit uncomfortable to hold to me. Steam games in my country are mostly about the same price as console games and I play mostly on console anyway.

@Rural-Bandit
Yeah I don't know what that other guy is talking about. He seems adamant that the Switch gets loud and hot, I started to question myself that I must just be very lucky to have a quiet and cool one since he supposedly has 5 of them that get hot and loud.

I've never seen any of these videos or Reddit posts he speaks of with well documented reports of it that I had to check and found nothing.

I love my Switch too and think it's a perfect companion to the other main platforms.

I agree with you that the Deck looks a bit on the large side. If I get one I might wait for a smaller one in a revised model. I have a steam account with games but I rarely ever play there to be honest. With several other platforms and games I can't find the time. I'll have to evaluate if it's for me so I'm not going to rush out to buy one. I'm just about to start Mass Effect 3 from the trilogy I've been playing so I'm behind starting Horizon and Elden Ring on my PS5.

With the Deck I don't think Xbox will ever need a handheld since they release their games day one on Steam so this is the answer for them and I think that also means there'll never be a Vita2 since Sony are slowly releasing games on Steam too.

@Floki
No need to be aggressive dude, that's just my experience, and yeah I use mine a lot, maybe I'm just not sensitive to it but I literally never hear a peep out of it or ever feel it hot. I've never known any of my friends to complain either and they are sensitive to that sort of thing, they moan about their PS4's all the time.

Don't know why your sudden aggressive post came into it. What's the big deal? So my experience is different to yours? So what.

I can check out some videos but I've literally never heard anyone else complain either.

Edit. Just looked up some videos searching for overheating or loud fans, the only results I can see suggest defective units and 'fixes'.

Additional edit.
I just turned mine on with BotW and had to listen really hard with it against my ear to hear anything and even then it was barely a whisper. Sorry, but that's just me.

@Floki
I've only got my launch day one and as I said I've personally never experienced that. I'm on the move a lot and have played BotW, Skyrim, SM:Odyssey, PKMN Sword, SSB, Splatoon and many more in handheld and for a long time I thought it didn't even have a fan.

I only realised when I opened up my friends Switch to solder on a new USB:C port.

Not sure why but it's always been silent and barely even warm for me, slight warmth only if I place my hand on the vent but never from the chassis. And I usually carry a power bank because I deplete the battery a lot.

@Floki
Can't say I've experienced that myself. I've had the Switch since launch day and pretty much use it in handheld exclusively. I've played most of its 'demanding' library including ES:Skyrim and never once heard it make a sound or even get warm let alone hot.

I've never even heard the fan, ever.

I initially had no interest in this but it is impressive to run these kind of games. That being said I was watching some random YouTube video the other day of someone testing God of War on it and he said it was getting hot and the fans were spinning crazy loud. I didn't even know it had fans.
A little concerning if accurate.

@bbauer36
No I don't think that. But atleast it can't be taken away from me. No need to be condescending or nasty towards anyone just because of your choices. You're not superior to anyone, dude.

Clear with physical still accounting for more than 50% of the sales then more people have a preference towards that.

Good to see physical still has a strong presence.
I just can't go digital, not until it's forced on me.

I cringe at the thought of going to the online store, pressing buy, downloading it only to feel like it isn't mine, I can't hold it, and it still belongs to Sony who can take it away if and when they want.

I just can't do it.

And so it begins.
No thanks, Sony. I don't support digital and services. I'll stick around so long as physical media exists. When that ends, and it will, and everything is service and digital only, bye-bye PlayStation, so-long Microsoft.

I'll stick with Nintendo until they follow suit then back to my vast retro library when the industry is a shadow of its former self.

It's upsetting to see where gaming is headed. Greed, mediocrity and licenced service crap full of MTX and NFT's with no rights to the consumer.

It's not for no reason. It's likely the Xbox fanboys as usual. They do this everytime a great PS exclusive comes out for validation because the ones who are fanboys are pathetic and insecure.

Looks in cupboard

Thank goodness for physical media.

Boot up a CapCom game on PS1.
"This game contains scenes of explicit violence and gore."

Boot up a horror game on PS5.
"RREEEEEEE!"

Performance over fidelity every time. I'd rather game at 8bit stable over 4k unstable.

Myself I generally don't care about this sort of thing but I know some people do.

Why can't they just allow a damn toggle switch like they do with enabling HDR or switching between fidelity and performance modes?

Just ask on the main menu 'do you want explicit scenes censored? [Yes] [No]

Problem solved. Everyone's happy. It's not that hard Sony (of California where everything changed for the worst)

Lets not pretend Microsoft are doing this out if the goodness of their hearts, if they were then it would be the same situation with Zenimax games.

They're doing this because they were legally forced to by the FTC, I have no doubt in my mind about that.

@AdamNovice
Honestly with the way GamePass is I can actually see MS dropping XBLG in the future, it just won't make sence anymore.

And if Spartacus becomes successful maybe Sony will. But Sony have more to lose than MS, it's far easier for them.

@AdamNovice
Yeah I know. It's just wishful thinking. Since all console platform holders do it now it's unfortunately here to stay.

Although depending what this Spartacus turns out to be. 🤔

@Kooky_Daisuke
I've been saying that for a while. Go back to basic free online play for people that just want access and perhaps a paid version for lobby priority and DLC/content special bonuses.

It would definitely be one over on Xbox who still charge for XBLG online paywall and may attract people to PlayStation.

Or just drop PSPlus altogether and have basic free online play.
Myself I play co-op with a friend 2-3 times per year if I'm lucky so I wouldn't bother with a paid online if I didn't have to.

Even Nintendo now charge £20 per year for online play.

Yeah I'm going to render a guess that the FTC regulators have likely said that CoD being one of the biggest selling games in the industry would trigger an anti-trust legislation against future publisher purchases if Microsoft kept it away from other platforms.

It's a likely scenario. If Microsoft didn't have a motive they wouldn't do it.

I don't give a rat's a**e about CoD, I just hope Crash and Spyro will still make it to PS in the future.

Hopefully it will be like this on both sides in the future. Make agreements for once third party games to be played on both post acquisition. Even if on a case by case basis of trades in the very least.

I really don't like this kind of talk or scenario. I wish these platform holders would keep their wallets in their pocket and let everyone play games.

As for Sega being the one I worry about the most Microsoft in particular need to keep their damn gruuby mitts as far away as possible.

The other side of the world,
locked in a steel box with titanium chains wrapped around it,
dumped at the bottom of the deepest darkest pit of the ocean with whatever unholy things live down there guarding it.

They would destroy Sega.

The first and most important thing I would do is hold a staff meeting and say, "pack your bags we're moving back to Tokyo".

That'll be a start.

I refuse to go digital as long as physical exists. Paid for the physical PS5 copy for £64.85 At simplygames.

The price went up at the start of the gen and I was sore about it. But given the way things are going I'll pay the price to support the developers and show single player games are still worth making. Hopefully the game does well, I know people don't like the steep price increase and I don't blame them.

I know a lot of people like CoD but personally I haven't played one since Modern Warfare 2 about a decade ago.
It just got too samey and boring. Same game with a different soldier on the box.

I used to imagine the discussion in the development room when it starts production goes something like this.

"Ok so there's this bad guy, he's hijacked a few missiles made some demands and Soldier X is going to stop him. Lets put that to one side.

...OK now let's discuss the multiplayer. How many microtransactions do we want? Evil grin

I'm glad Nintendo are doing so well. It means their future is safe and they're unlikely to be gobbled up by someone else.

I love my Switch, I love their IP's and I like that they do their own thing. Hopefully they stay on thier traditional path, it's served them well long before Sony, Microsoft, Google etc entered the scene.

@Naruball
I don't travel as much as I used to, what with the pandemic and losing my mother last year to heart failure I've pretty much stayed in one place. Although when I do travel I ALWAYS grab the Switch where it used to be the 3DS and the Vita I would throw in the bag/suitcase.

@IonMagi
As hypocritical as it may sound it has also just occurred to me that one service game I would like on console is Star Wars: The Old Republic. 10 years it's been out and now I doubt it'll ever happen, but I'd love to cross-play with my friend.

Even though I still stand by my convictions about not looking forward to this possible future.

@naruball
Yeah. Just like I was saying to the other fellow I was talking to we can all try and predict where things will eventually lead. I'm no prophet but I think that's where things will go. Maybe, maybe not but it's a possible outcome.

No hostility to anyone here at all, everyone is free to believe what they want to believe. And I certainly don't think it's all about me and these companies will always do what's best for them.

I have the choice to jump on board (which I highly doubt) or leave and do something else.

Also it's just occurred to me, while I say Nintendo is simplicity, and they usually are, I think we can all agree that their ridiculous idea for voice chat on the Switch was just that.
I mean you had to buy a device to connect a phone to the console to chat with friends? Really?
Um, hello Nintendo, do you not see that headphone jack you put in?

That being said I love the Switch. It may not be powerful but the concept of home gaming on a TV and using the same quality games on the go is a unique and amazing idea. That's what makes it my current favourite console despite owning a PS5.

@IonMagi
Again I'm thinking more into the future. That's the present and with the way these services work it won't be that way forever.

Again, we'll have to agree to disagree. We clearly have different faith in the way these platform holders will behave. And that's fine.

@JAMes-BroWWWn
Jack Tretton please. Miss that guy.

@naruball
And that's fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and preference. Personally I just think it's going to go that way. At present I think Sony and Nintendo are on equal ground for great quality games and IP's but the appeal to Nintendo for me personally has always been simplicity and I'm a huge fan of The Legend of Zelda series.

@IonMagi
Sorry we'll have to agree to disagree. Phil has already been pretty much saying for years GaaS is the inevitable future. MTX/NFT's and frequent updates to releases are the only way to maintain it.
And as I said they require around the clock maintenance so there will be less time and resources for single player that don't or won't keep people hooked.

It's the situation now, but it won't be forever. Except for Nintendo I believe.

@IonMagi
I can almost sence that come the time this generation comes to an end and the next one starts single player will become an afterthought until they finish completely.

EA were ahead of the trend when they said "single player games are not the future" or whatever it was.

Again, I may be cynical, but I can see this being the case.

At this point Nintendo will be our only saving grace since they take about 20 years to catch up to modern trends.

Live service games take a lot of resources, manpower and around the clock maintenance and monitoring. Which means less resources and manpower for the quality single player games PlayStation is know for.

Microsoft preached that services and GaaS is the future. They created GamePass and now they're getting most of the industry dancing to their tune.

I may seem cynical but gaming by the time of the PS6 and Xbox Series 2 will never be the same again.
That's when I will abandon it and move backwards with my old platforms and maybe forwards with Nintendo.

Games on PlayStation, Xbox and PC will become nothing more than MTX/NFT filled mediocre rubbish with frequent releases to maintain subscribers.
And with people saying 'buy this, buy that' it'll only get worse when the best developers are forced to make these games.

@Rural-Bandit
Well thats not entirely true about Sony not developing games. Yes in the early days they bought developers to start out but titles like Horizon Zero Dawn and Ghost of Tsushima were developed by studios they've owned for nearly three decades, and those were brand new IP's.