The huge week of PlayStation news that everyone on the Internet was teasing? Eh, it wasn’t so big, right? Obviously we got official confirmation of PS Plus’ revamp, but many of the details had already leaked, and Sony failed to elaborate outside of the core facts. Make no mistake, this was a big and interesting announcement, but the hype cycle was hinting at much, much more.
Kinda Funny Games host Greg Miller was one of the many industry observers fanning the flames by postponing his PlayStation podcast, although in the ex-IGN man’s defence he did attempt to temper expectations earlier in the week. Now, speaking after the fact, he’s elaborated a little more on what he’d heard about three potentially interesting developments.
The first was, as mentioned, the PS Plus news, which did come to fruition. The second was chatter of a PSVR2 event – presumably for the media. It sounds like this showcase isn’t actually happening right now – we certainly didn’t get an invite – but it’s safe to assume Sony is planning something like that in the near-future; the headset was playable behind closed doors at GDC, for example.
The third rumour is the tasty one: an acquisition – and it’s allegedly “really big”. Speaking as part of Kinda Funny Games Daily, both Miller and Games Beat scribe Jeff Grubb claim to have heard about the same thing. Grubb explained: “The third one is very difficult to pin down because people can get word [on acquisitions] but those who actually know are usually legally bound not to say anything.”
As the conversation develops, Grubb explains that he’s heard it’s big, and Miller interjects: “So, we’re sharing information here, but I’ve heard from two separate sources – one of them being a pool of people – that it’s big. That it’s really big. So it’s like, okay, I’m going to delay the [PS I Love You podcast] and see if that happens this week.”
Grubb went on to explain that Sony is very serious about leaks – tell that to the guy who reveals the PS Plus lineup days in advance every single month – and that even though he’s heard plenty of speculation about an acquisition, he’s not going to “write a story about it on Games Beat”. Therefore, all of this sounds like hearsay more than anything concrete.
Indeed, the problem is that there’s nothing really substantial here. As both pundits point out, the information is coming second-hand, and anyone with first-hand knowledge of the news wouldn’t be able to talk about it anyway. Ultimately, it’s best just to sit tight and wait and see – the news will come when Sony’s ready to announce it.
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Please be Konami.
The franchises deserve better, and they suit the PS brand.
There have been lots of rumours flying around the past few days. The latest one I heard today was that it's CD Projekt Red.
If that turns out to be true, I'll follow Liverpool all the way to the... Can't finish that.
Seriously doubt if that rumour is true anyway.
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Square come to mind, obviously. After the deal they gave Bungie you would trust PlayStation to allow Square to keep putting games like Dragon Quest on Nintendo.
Still, as much as I think Square and PlayStation are a match made in heaven, my money would be on Kadokawa or Konami.
Hopefully not another studio to help ramp up their live-service game development.
I'm pretty tired of the whole criptic insider information. It's one thing when it's randoms on Twitter it's another when the likes of Greg Miller get involved as well.
SEGA Is more worthwhile than Konami
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From generation of Remasters to generation of Acquisitions, that sums up where we are now.
Hoo boy another day, another rumor
quit playin’ games with my heart
@Wasted_Smuggler if you don't want to see what they're reporting... there's always the option of not clicking on the article, thoughts?
I must say my first thought was Konami, so many classic IP just languishing in the doldrums, many of which (you know which ones) are almost synonymous with PlayStation anyway.
What's considered big? Kind of relative unless it's something like Sega, Capcom or the likes of EA or Ubisoft.
Best outcome IMO is Sega or Capcom. That would mean if Shenmue 4 were to be made, it would definitely be on Playstation. Maybe we'd even get a stellar remake or sequel to Comix Zone in the vein of SoR4. As for Capcom, I'd love for Sony to force their hand and finally give us Dino Crisis in the RE engine.
Both Sega and Capcom have a ton of dormant IPs that neither seem too interested in reviving... so they sit on their thumbs and their IPs rot in a corner somewhere never to be heard of again.
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God I’m tired of vague statements. Something might be happening but I can’t say what! It’s the new ‘my uncle works at Nintendo’.
I'm no fan of 'the rumor mill' but for my tastes, and just to play along, I'd love to see it be FromSoftware.
Square Enix 🤞 but keep the games multi-platform.
Lara Croft has been gone from our screens for too long. Well… if you don’t include Fortnite.
@Richnj I hope not. They would just be a waste... Sure they have a bunch of great IPs. But they don't really have anybody to develop them anymore. Sony would have to buy them and then throw a ton of money to build back up the Studios.
It would be better to wait till Konami game development fully kicks the bucket then buy the IP off the carcass.
@commentlife I should have known from the start.
Square enix games suit sony so well and have a great history and legacy on playstation platforms and already work closely together with timed exclusives.
Square Enix is perfect for playstation
Blue Box Game Studios🤣🤣
Do we really care if it's anything else besides Kojima Productions? Come on Sony...that studio + first person horror with a double word name starting with P and T!
That's all we want
Please let it be fromsoftware..
If not capcom or Konami, I'm not advocating, I can't predict what would be a big one. I Ajay forgot bungie was even acquired lol
@AFCC they'd have to get the license for silent hill from konami for that
Oh we need really big memes for these guys 😅
@Floki The Konami game dev side is so messed up that that's kinda why I keep wanting them bought up.
The price would be quite low and there's so much room for Sony to improve it. I'd much rather that than Sony buy up someone else and either make a solid publisher exclusive, or keep them multiplatform and effectively make no change.
The only reason I supported MS buying Bethy and Acti was because they had been structurally a mess for a long time and I'm hoping that this changes going forward.
I'm just going to casually mention that Konami put up a 35th anniversary site for Metal Gear. Probably an NFT sale like some others have suggested. In my heart though, it's related to this as I do know Greg Miller is a big Metal Gear fan.
I know I'm just drawing straws but I can't help but wonder...
Whatever it is, please let it not be Fromsoftware nor Square Enix. I would prefer that those companies work as 3rd party developers and whatever platform they feel like working on. I'm okay if this is Konami, it makes more sense anyway with their history with Sony
What if Sony buys PushSquare?
That way they could get a website to use for advertising the PS exclusives . . . . Oh wait.
Square Enix please 😁
Nintendo? From soft? Capcom? Sega?
If its Ubi, EA, Sega, or Square Enix it would be a waste. What my dream would be is the one no one has even thought about and thats Nintendo.
@PhhhCough I think if they aquired Blue Box Game Studios it would be the true answer to Gamepass we have all been asking for 🤞
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@Ken_Kaniff BotW 4k/60 ps5 port 😍
Calling it now.
It's going to be Mihoyo.
1) Hugely profitable.
2) Gives Sony a huge entry point into the Chinese market.
3) Gives Sony a huge live service game.
4) Helps Sony with the mobile/PC sector.
5) Sony and Mihoyo already have a working relationship together on Genshin.
Capcom announcement alongside RE Village DLC (which will be multi platform obv) followed by the next, PS5 only RE announcement by end of year.
I'm not thrilled with MS and Sony buying up gaming but if either of the two want to buy Konami then i'm happy as we will actually get games then from those IP's.
My prediction? I think it might be a Japanese Dev/Publisher so Capcom, Sega, Konami or Square Enix for the big ones. If its just a Dev then maybe Platinum or From Software.
@itsfoz I want Capcom to stay 3rd party as they do too much Nintendo what i like.
I think big for Sony would be Fromsoftware. I dont know if they could afford something like,ea, ubi, or square. In the end I just hope if they do get anyone they keep it open for all platforms, even if its a year delay for some. I really dislike the exclusivity of the big 3. If the game is fun let it be playable for all.
Konami or Square Enix would be perfect. When you think of the games made by both of these publishers Playstation is the brand that comes to mind first and the majority of the games made by them are already purchased mostly by Playstation owners so it wouldn't really be leaving many Xbox and Nintendo gamers out. Both publishers really need better management for their IP's too. From Software and Kojima Productions would be incredibly smart dev pickups for similar reasons. Keep the games made by them initially for PS consoles and then port them to PC later on for extra profit.
I'm thinking it may be Kojima seeing as how he's moving to a new location as well... If MS purchases their studio I'll ***** riot.
I remember when Jeff Grub heard that Microsoft had bought NetherRealm and was going to announce it during their e3 conference two years ago.
@Ken_Kaniff goes full circle.
Nintendo screws Sony, causing them to make PlayStation.
Sony buying Nintendo.
It's hilarious but extremely unlikely.
They bought take two. That's why GTA online got that GTA+ subscription. The plus sign looks exactly like ps plus sign
I love this article. It treasons like this I visit push square regularly. Really clears the air for all the unknowns and rumors that people spread over the internet. I’ve learned to just wait for Sony and avoid these podcasts as best I can, although it is fun to theorize what’s coming next.
@NomNom Well I no its unlikely, but its the only purchase at this point that would be "really big". Any of the publishers left besides Nintendo would barely make a dent in what MS has purchased.
@Richnj Yeah, that is true, but there is nothing of value in a konami purchase no matter how cheap it is. You have to look at the fully picture. No good studios, technology, and the IPs haven't been relevant in years.
Even with how messed up the development side of Bethy and Acti is. Microsoft was still getting a lot of stuff out of the purchase... Be it technology like iD tech, or the streaming tech Orion, or the engine that powers Call of Duty. There was something of real note value.
Just look at Sony past purchases over the last year. Bungie and Nixxes. These studios offered expertise in either managing online games, or porting games to PC. They boosted the Sony studio by offering something of actual value.
@PhhhCough haha,you beat me to it.
Please be Sega. Maybe then we'd get really decent remakes of stuff that Sega have left dormant... And the next Valkyria Chronicles won't be dumbed down for the Switch.
Square-Enix? Capcom? Konami? Arc System Works? I'd consider the first two "very big" and the last two just "big."
Final Fantasy is arguably more valuable to the PlayStation brand than any other IP owned by the companies I mentioned, so I think Square-Enix would be a "very big" acquisition that makes sense. However, considering Sony doesn't have a fighting game despite owning the world's largest fighting game tournament, I can see Capcom (for Street Fighter) and/or Arc System Works for their myriad of excellent fighting games also making sense. Konami would just be an IP buy.
Yes, they are all Japanese companies I listed. Sony needs more Japanese investment.
If there is any truth to this then Square Enix would be the smart choice, not only for their ip's, but to also have a hand in the continuous revenue stream of a very popular and successful mmo. FF14 has been going from strength to strength in recent years and generates a lot of money annually.
Saw another article saying Konami…. https://earlygame.com/gaming/sony-buys-konami/
@patronmacabre I sure hope this rumor doesn't go ahead, this aquisition thing is getting out of hand. But I agree with what Patron wrote in his post, my mind also went to MihoYo. They already have a (hugely) successful live game (or actually 2 with Honkai) and have had partnerships with Sony.
We also have KojiPro moving studios now and using R&D Sony hardware (Madou) on their projects, that could also be a possibility.
It's sounding like Rockstar.
Hi just checking see if my account works and all that jazz. Been using Push Square for gaming news and reading the comments a lot this past year so I thought might as well create account here for more juicy gaming stuffs
I think they should buy either square-enix, capcom, konami, platinum games or from software and keep the games multiplatform, that way they'll be able to make more money from the games.
while its cool that is possible , stuff like this gets the best of a lot of people sometimes that also includes me. always remember to take every rumor with a grain of salt till anything is actually announced .
I would probably scratch Fromsoftware off the list as they are owned by Kadokawa. That would probably mean Sony would have to buy them, but too many big companies like Tencent owns a stake in that company. Does Sony have the capital to fight Tencent
Maybe they're going to buy Microsoft.
They’re acquiring Konami, Namco Bandai, SEGA and Capcom and it will be announced tomorrow, Friday 1st April.
@Ken_Kaniff If Micrsoft couldn't buy Nintendo when they were at their weakest point. Do you really think that Sony could buy them at their strongest point?
Buying Take-two and keeping it multi plat would make sense for Sony's live action games goal.
GTA online makes like a billion a year in revenue.
CAPCOM but if it is really big it will be Square Enix.
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@RubyCarbuncle So 5 games of which two where practically remake is a generation?
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@Flaming_Kaiser I’m sorry I didn’t really understand what you were trying to tell me ?
These rumours annoy me about any company buying blah blah ,99.9% of them are crap , if we have learnt anything from earlier deals it's that they come as a complete suprise ,ppl are just being safe now and every company is being mentioned just in case it does happen ,let's not waste time on takeover rumours and get back to playing the games
@Flaming_Kaiser Hmm? I don't follow. I mean last generation we had quite a fair amount of Remasters where here everyone seems to be fiercely competing to acquire studios. It was just a lame joke.
I could see them buying Square Enix. FFXIV is massive and l fits in with Sony’s service plans. XVI is already a PS5 exclusive. Sony can keep releasing games like Tomb Raider on other platforms but keep all the JRPGs for themselves.
@avatarian I have seen enough MS adds to make turn on my add blocker and im sick of every god#### Gamepass article. Plus they burn down quite a few Playstation exclusive games Returnal was destroyed just for clicks.
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@patronmacabre
You make a compelling case for Mihoyo, though I would consider that a small purchase and would not be impressed with that particular acquisition.
Hoping it’s Konami since they stopped making new games. Look at all these classics…
https://gamicus.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Konami_video_games
@TheCollector316
Mihoyo has 4,000 employees.
@patronmacabre
Well... I had no idea. That's about as many as Blizzard. I stand corrected. New comment below.
"You make a compelling case for Mihoyo and are quite swell."
If Sony really buys Square Enix, will they rebrand it to Square Circle Triangle X?
I hope not. I'm sick of this crap and it's exactly what I feared when MS first entered gaming. Took a while but once MS started opening up its checkbook we're seeing the domino effect and it sucks for the entire industry.
I can’t believe some of these comments.. Imo to be big the order would have to be EA, Ubisoft, Capcom and finally Square.. looking at this from a catalog of current ips that are consistent money makers or at least can provide multiple quality games that can go on the new ps tiers.
Just finalized… From Software.
I really hope it’s Ocean Software. Batman: The Caped Crusader 2 as a PS5 exclusive would send shockwaves through the industry.
@Ken_Kaniff Sony can't afford Nintendo and Nintendo would never sell because well they don't need or want too. Even MS i doubt would even consider them as they know Nintendo would say nah not interested.
Wasn't there rumors back a few years sony was going to buy take two.....that would be an interesting acquisition
An acquisition would make most sense when they offer value across multiple divisions. Bandai Namco, Capcom and Square Enix fits the bill nicely since they own IPs pertaining to anime, E-Sport, movie and video games. Bandai will cost more but they have a strong anime focus, the publishing rights to many of FromSoft hits and an added bonus of a toy division. Capcom is popular with western audiences and has multiple fighting game IPs. Square is stronger with their Japanese IPs but i would consider them a better target for Nintendo.
All three companies have a large pool of talented developers which Konami lacks. Leasing Konami's IPs should be better than an acquisition. Another possibility is Kadokawa which also owns FromSoft but i think it Sony can achieve more with Bandai Namco.
Please let it be Square-Enix, Konami, or Capcom if the rumors are true.
I'd also happily accept Kojima Productions.
@KidBoruto I doubt Kojima wants to be tied to a publisher again after all the hassle he dealt with at Konami...
@NomNom Fair point, I forgot about that for a moment.
Acquisitions do make sense with the way MS are going. Not so much to gain exclusives, but to block MS from locking big games to Gamepass day and date and this being the best gaming deal around. If a dev /publisher is profitable then Sony have little risk as long as they don’t pay over the odds.
I’m just thinking maybe they got it wrong as in it’s Xbox that s planning a really big acquisition.
I’m hearing from my reliable pool of sources that Spencer is trying to hire Jim Ryan to manage Xbox studios. 😅
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@NomNom SEGA is the one I want. Just imagine what they could do with the budget and Sony polish!
Microsoft want to get out of the gaming business and are going to sell out to Sony. You heard it here first...
@Bingbongboyo Apparently, you were the first to let slip Sony's acquisition of Xbox
@Uncharted2007 This is no way Sony would green light Shenmue 4. The only company crazy enough to do it would be Sega, and they don't seem that crazy.
Information so vague it's pointless.
Would have been a dimension breaking if its a partnership with Nintendo, with a Switch that is Ps compatible. But thats not it. There have been rumours of MGS and Silent Hills so maybe Konami. Sony have been closer to Square the last 2 years or so. My money is on Bandai with the tweet of developer asking if there is a trophy for walking on Sony's property.
@CastelloGG absolute gold !
@WallyWest Just saying that's the only one that would be "really big". All others Ubi, EA, Square Enix, Sega would be extremely underwhelming compared to what MS have purchased.
@Th3solution Sony already says they plan to have 10 live service games by 2026 (that is 4 years from now). How are they going to do that without buying more studios for that purpose? Otherwise, if they don't, they are going to have to assign the job to teams within their current stable of studios. Sure, they can buy the work from another third-party like Haven (a studio that was acting as second-party developing a live service game before Sony decided to buy them outright instead two weeks ago). But there aren't that many around with that type of pedigree of talent to really support a live service. Sio you will buy them when you can. And I assume Sony knows it be better to own the teams that develop a live service game than continuously spend on an outside dev for supporting a live game for content for many years.
Not saying this rumor of a possible acquisition will be focused on live services capable dev. Just that if Sony has that goal of having (quite) a few live services then there will be more acquisitions tailored towards that goal.
@Ken_Kaniff There are different kinds of big. Activision was big in terms of business. but nowhere near as big for fans of gaming. Bethesda was a bigger deal than Activision for most gamers. SEGA would be absolutely huge for us for the history and IP, but in terms of business, SEGA is a minnow compared to some of the giants.
@Gamer83 Yeah, this is not benefitting is at all. The problem is that Microsoft is not gonna stop, so Sony has to make the few smart acquisitions that it can make to avoid Xbox coming in and buying anything to then put it on game pass and destroy it.
@ImGumbyDammit You can quite quickly get to a total of 10 live service games without much effort. Haven becoming a PlayStation Studio makes no difference there because they were already developing a PlayStation/PC exclusive anyway just like Deviation Games and the other one I can't remember the name of. So that is 3 already, then add the now released GT7, and the confirmed Last of Us Factions, and you are already at 5. Not forgetting MLB the Show which comes out every year and Destiny and/or the new IP from Bungie. Add to that highly likely rumoured games such as Ghost of Tsushima sequel with the multiplayer, the twisted metal game from Firesprite, and a multiplayer game that Guerilla are most probably working on then you have at least 10.
@BLNX Exactly, each Sony acquisition is in our interests to keep the developer out of Micro$oft's grubby mitts.
With the acquisition of Bungie, Sony set out another model that companies like Sega and Square could follow and not just make exclusives for PlayStation. It wouldn't make much difference if Sony took those games off of Xbox, but left them on Nintendo.
The only concern I have for Sony acquiring studios like Sega and Square is whether they would continue making the smaller games that both are known for.
I don't like this consolidation era we have entered but if it's going to be the path going forward then all I care about is Sega and Square Enix. Microsoft can throw their money at the rest all they want.
And y'know, Sega has started putting out Sonic movies.. and So y have a movie company.
In the other hand Square Enix has Final Fantasy slowly going down the GaaS route which, as much as I hate it, fits with Sony's desire for service games.
Epic Games perhaps? To Jim Ryan, live service is the future of gaming and Fortnite is not only the biggest live service game but also the reason why everyone's chasing the trend.
It's very sad that modern gaming is no longer about games but instead subscriptions, services and acquisitions.
All each company needs is one strong IP that someone considers a must-play and they have to get that system. Currently I don’t need a PS5 but if Square Enix were to throw in with Sony (even more than they already are) and announce full exclusivity then yea… I would need a PS5 (or a super beefy PC I suppose).
Also remember that with these subscription services; a key point about an acquisition is the back-catalogue that can be thrown onto the service as a permanent fixture of the library. Konami would obviously be a good one but then so would Sega/SE/Capcom.
This is getting boring now. People are getting excited by studio acquisitions rather than game announcements. ☹️
SquareEnix and Konami make the most sense, in terms of the studios and games fitting nicely with the PlayStation brand and ecosystem.
I don’t know if they’d bother buying SquareEnix though, as they already have a close relationship and plenty of exclusive deals with them. Plus SquareEnix has a close relationship with Nintendo too so don’t know if they’d be willing to severe that.
Konami, I would love to see happen. There IPs make tons on sense to the PlayStation brand and other than some collections recently (which is great and better than nothing) they aren’t doing ANYTHING with their IP. Love to see Sony swoop them up just to rescue all those legendary IP from purgatory
@Hesse Sony could just do what they did when they bought Bungie. They could buy Square Enix but allow them to remain independent.
If it's really big, that narrows it down quite a bit. Square Enix, Namco, Capcom, Ubisoft, Warner Bros.. My guess would be one of the last 3 I mentioned.
@Would_you_kindly not really! They can make an horror game that's just called Playing Thunder (I'm just giving an example) so everyone calls it PT unofficially lol
@Apfelschteiner well, once it's announced we can both sit back and say "told you so..."
I'd say Konami they could afford but not much else.
Also if it were a japanese company would the japanese .gov even allow it. I'd wager they're more strict than the rubber stamp process here in the US when companies buy up stuff.
If they were smart it'd be someone like Square then make a deal with MS. XB gets square games, PS gets actiblizz games. Works out for gamers at least.
This the From Software acquisition?
Ugh, enough with all the acquisitions. If it's happening, I hope it's a studio that was floundering and guaranteed to fail or sell to some big-data company so it keeps a good studio from going down. So far with both Bethesda and Activision we found out after the fact they were circling the drain looking to sell to anyone, so if it wasn't MS, it would have been Facebook or Tencent, or just closure. Hopefully if Sony's buying someone "big" it's the same scenario, a failing company we didn't know was failing. Bungie wasn't one of those, but they're also a one-hit-wonder at this point, and they're not changing the structure.
Something like Square or Sega would be a devastating blow for the industry though. Nintendo also heavily relies on those two for exclusive content and a Sony buyout of either could seriously destabilize Nintendo, and that's bad for everyone. I think either one of those would be biting off more than they could chew though. Acti by revenue is bigger mostly due to a few mega-sellers, but Square and Sega just have far more IPs and simultaneous projects going on.
It's sad seeing the entire industry just become 4 companies. Working in gaming has got to be like working for a big bank at this point.
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@NEStalgia I don't think Bungie are a one hit wonder, you know what games they have made, right?
@Throb That's why I said "at this point." Halo1-4 was a long time ago, they don't own it, and is out of their hands now, for better or worse. And I'm a Myth and Oni fan, but I'm not holding my breath for that
Today they're the Destiny studio and really, only, the Destiny studio. So they're kind of a special case as far as acquisitions go. The game is huge, of course, but it's a single game, and it's obvious that Sony wanted them to fast-track their GaaS know-how more than specifically wanting to have Bungie/Destiny as first party.
Sega or capcom would be great eidos would also be good if they could split from square enix
@Bamila That would trigger Microsoft to finally give up. GTA 6 exclusive to the PS6
@Th3solution Why? They have enough single player devs. The majority of the studios are Single Player.
Ubisoft would be a great coup but not sure if they’re out of Sonys price range?
Konami, capcom, Sega all seem more likely but I’d rather it was from software for my personal tastes.
Was that bluepoint acquisition ever confirmed in the end? Can’t remember!
@sword_9mm don’t forget Sony are a Japanese company. They have much more chance buying a Japanese dev than MS do. Nintendo also…
@Dodoo ya it was confirmed they bought bluepoint
@Apfelschteiner Please elaborate on what other IPs besides Sonic would Sega bring to the table. Only other thing from Sega i can think of is niche Japanese titles that only a select audience enjoys.
@RevGaming Well, the simple answer is because I’m selfish and I like single player games better. 😛 I don’t care for live-service model or multiplayer games. Just a personal preference.
I’m not opposed to them dabbling in MP, online-centric, GAAS products from time to time. I’d be fine with maybe 70/30 or 80/20 breakdown as far as isolated experience/SP games vs. service games. I’ll allow for 25% of their studio work force to be doing service based format games. I think we’re already there. Let’s see — Bungie, Firesprite, MediaMolecule, Polyphony, San Diego Studio are all pretty much exclusively doing some form of live-service game(s). Add to that Naughty Dog is devoting a huge part of their studio, as is apparently Guerrilla and London Studio. We’re probably approaching well over 30% if not close to 40% or more of the resources on GAAS. To me it seems like plenty.
But I just don’t care for the model personally. I honestly think GAAS carry high financial risk for the publisher. Dreams, Predator Hunting Grounds, Destruction All-Stars… some of the recent massive failures (at least commercially).
They just need to get a few successful live-service games out there first before they sell the farm to make a hundred to just throw up against the wall and see which sticks. I understand everyone want to make the next Fortnite or GTA online, but so far way more studios seem to fail than succeed.
And yet Sony cranks out a pretty high rate of successful single player games, so I don’t want them to abandon what they excel at. And it feels like they are siphoning resources gradually toward LS.
@Th3solution I have to be honest here. Not saying it's you, but a lot of people should make gaming friends so they don't think multiplayer games is a sin.
I'm the same. 7-8/2-3 is my ratio (SP/MP).
I think it should be 50/50 for the studios making sp and mp. They're charging $60 for online and are the least that justify it.
I agree, some studios aren't cut out for mp but are masters at sp games.
@RevGaming I actually have a goal to play an online MP-centric game this year (if you don’t believe me check the forums on this site under 2022 Gaming Resolutions, I made a post in Jan. and trying a MP online game is one of my resolutions) so I can at least speak honestly and informatively about it on these internet spaces. I feel strongly in experiencing things before passing judgment. (I’ll see firsthand the sinner’s lifestyle 😜)
For me, I wish I could have all the PS+ features without the online and either replace or with another perk or have them cut the subscription cost.
Nevertheless, I do enjoy asynchronous multiplayer — The messages and visions in FromSoft’s games and Death Stranding’s shared online world constructions and ratings are great examples. Also innovative games like Journey use MP in ways I enjoy.
But to be clear, my main concern is with live-service games, not online MP games. I think the live-service model hampers single player games. Examples include: GT7 and it’s MTX fiasco, all the fighting games with their drip feed roster additions (now a given in almost every fighter), Avengers and it’s unorganized chaos of new heroes and content, Assassin’s Creed with its endless parade of DLC packs, all these ‘season passes’, perpetually existing game worlds where the idea is keeping the player base glued to it for thousands of hours playing the same game.
It just reminds me of a TV series that go on and on and on, trying to keep the audience going, with no real ending planned, until it finally “jumps the shark” and evolves into endless moments of making each new purchasable content appear more bombastic then the last. What’s left is a ridiculous circus of zaniness that all ends up looking like the same hectic cash-grabbing mess. 😛
From software.
@nessisonett to be fair the whole thing started when Greg Miller made a quick Tweet explaining the reason his PS I love You podcast was being delayed was because he’d heard rumblings of 3 PS announcements this week. That all seems reasonable to me, his audience deserves to know why the show isn’t happening on time.
The trouble is the internet takes little things like this and runs with it too far (look at Abandoned Bluebox conspiracy as another example).
By the time Miller woke up next day and realised this had gone unintentionally viral he tried to walk back his statement a little but hardly any one was interested in listening anymore, it had a life of its own.
@Ken_Kaniff Yakuza, Monkey Ball, Shenmue, yes a lot of great niche games as well as owning Atlus, Football Manager, and a few other studios, Sega also have a great back catalogue of IP.
@themightyant What he should have done, was left the podcast as is, and just done a special if the news actually broke.
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Yeah. Sony buying Square and Nintendo buying Capcom would be something I guess. Or N buying Konami's IP/Or Sony. I don't think buying Konami outright would matter. They don't do games anymore really.
Don't know why anyone would buy Sega. Nintendo buying Sega would be crazy after all the 90's wars.
@Apfelschteiner Not sure I agree with that, if you have a weekly PlayStation podcast and have heard rumours there's going to a big announcement delaying it a few days seems like the right call. Much harder to get eyeballs on a special show users aren't expecting. E.g. I only check my weekly podcasts once a week not daily.
@Th3solution I don't think they're making SP GaaS. Could be wrong but that's not how they do it. They rather sell you 1 small DLC.
GaaS in multiplayer is actually good imo. I bought siege and don't need to buy a second so that's good. Yeah I paid for the operators but that was $40 for a couple of years since it has been out and they have added A LOT of them.
Fighting games are perfect for GaaS. Why do you want to pay $70 again? Multiversus it's free and it's coming this year. That game HAS to be GaaS.
I'm fine with GaaS if the initial/launch content is crazy big. If it's not, that's a problem.
@themightyant If you have a good podcast people will wait a week to hear your take on it. I much prefer sacred symbols. I really love that they aren't playing games and talking about them before they actually come out.
@sword_9mm good point, buying Konami itself is probably not a great move. Swiping their IP would be better like you say!
@RevGaming Fair enough. Different strokes for different folks. I think a lot of it boils down to amount of free time. I rarely spend more than 100 hours in a single game, even if I love it. I prefer my games to be 20-40 hours, depending on what it is. I get anxious to move on and experience some different games in my limited time. But that’s a limit that some people don’t have, depending on stage of life. I’m the kind of guy who likes to try something different on the menu at the restaurant, and some people just order the same dish over and over since they know they like it, which is fine too.
I know the fighting game enthusiasts like the gradual dropping of characters over a couple years, but I rather wait for the the complete edition. But it’s a genre I don’t play much.
But you’re right about initial content. If a game is GaaS and the initial output is meager, then it’s dead on arrival. Makes a game feel half-baked.
@Apfelschteiner Still, Sega has nothing in comparison to Bethesda or Activision. If Sony was going to make a purchase id much rather it be Capcom. They have a much better catalog of IPs than Sega.
@Apfelschteiner I like Sacred Symbols too, but it’s inconsistent and just too long and rambling sometimes. Often it’s near 4 hours which is just too long for me.
@themightyant The good thing about watching it on Youtube is the timestamps. I usually skip what they've been playing and the chat if it get annoying, plus I listen when I'm doing other stuff.
@Ken_Kaniff Personally I don't think Bethesda or Activision has anything that compares to Sega. The only think I can think of is Wolfenstein. Obviously, in terms of business, Activision and Bethesda are much more significant, but in terms of growth potential, Sony could take Sega and make them worth twice as much pretty quickly and develop some of the old IP. It just excites me more. Sony need more Japanese developers.
@Apfelschteiner I guess it all just depends on personal taste. Im more of a fan of Sonys western developed titles.
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