So no real "free" perks. Just a strategy to get you to spend more money. 🙂‍↕️

Nope not planning on buying at the moment and its not primarily due to the price.🤷‍♂️

Fantastic game. Thoughrly enjoyed it. Im not a trophy hunter but think I might be tempted to give this a try again.

@Oram77 Did you play it in VR or flat?

The patents they are selling really have nothing to do with VR gaming. Go check out Jammyhero on YouTube for a more accurate description of what's actually happening.

@BAMozzy Fantastic breakdown 👌

Delighted with F1 25. Good month for me.

No brainer if you're contemplating buying the game. Pre=order.👍🏻

@BAMozzy I was under the impression they were proposing a,way you could transfer the licence? Enjoyed the conversation in a civilised manner. Appreciated.

Pre ordered. Coincidentally got a few days off around release day. Kids at school wife at work. Hope the postie arrives early. Shame no VR included. Can on pray but cant see it being patched in later. Would happily pay for it.

@BAMozzy Some great points and ideas. The industry could do better if it wanted to. X-Box's proposed idea seems like a good start.

@BAMozzy Fair point. I think you may have misunderstood the tone of my reply though. It wasn't intended to come across as it maybe did. Hopefully Sony come up with some sort of solution (cant see it happening though) but we dont know what their plans are if any as their communication has been practically non existent.

@BAMozzy I understand how licensing works but appreciate the reply.

@BAMozzy Do you think there should be true digital ownership?

@Mald Again that's fine if that's how you feel. It doesn't need to be this all out war between people that want to retain ownership rights or permanent access and those that dont really care either way. If the folk that dont care either way, why get so agitated about it? Im generalising here. Not having a go at you specifically.

@Stonecold730 If that's how you feel then fine but there are games that have been delisted and unplayable. Not many, granted. Just the fact that that's a possibility is enough for me. Like I said my bigger point is consumer rights.

@Stonecold730 The main issue is ownership rights permanently. If we get that in digital format then fine. It doesn't have to be a slagging match between physical & digital. Don't get me wrong, i like collecting discs but if we get proper digital ownership then I'll accept that but still peeved off.

@naruball Im extremely pissed off with Sony just now but agree with your comment.

I dont think they look that great. Maybe it's just me🤷‍♂️

@DennisReynolds You expected more. How much more do you want from them? Unless I'm missing the sarcasm.. .which is quite likely

@Axelay71 exactly this

Its absolutely reasonable to expect ownership when you are being charged £70.

As long as its not to the detriment of the campaign mode

@b1zarr0
Ooooh a REAL gamer. Congratulations

Thanks much appreciated 👍🏻

Really looking forward to this. Shame no VR support. Can.you get the bonus game if you pre-order physical edition. Not wanting to start a digital v physical debate here!!!!

@dskatter Fair enough. Reasonable reply 🤣👍🏻

@Imaculado_Lord Its amazing 90% of people dont care about choice could be another way to look at it 🤷‍♂️

@MrStark That is just plain wrong mate. There are more than enough very good games that justify the purchase.

@dskatter Thats fair enough but comparing playing flat games to VR games are totally different experiences as you'll be aware as you've played PSVR1 but I understand your opinion.

@NishimaruX You absolutely cant guarantee that statement at all. Physical buyers are obviously in the minority but they can still both exist alongside each other quite happily. Thats quite obvious when Sony are pushing turntable players 🤷‍♂️

@NishimaruX Gamers that buy physical brought it on themselves???

Jesus....They are just mocking us now. As angry as I am, that is top shithousery.

@get2sammyb If people's concerns/protests were all polite and considerate, they would lose any leverage the had. Yes it's unfair that indies are being caught up in the crossfire but imo the blame lays squarely with Sony. Take the heat off everyone else and address tbe concerns directly i stead of spamming and hoping it will go away. Yes Sony made their initial statement when announced, that doesn't mean they shouldn't follow it up with further communication, you know like a company that actually cares🤷‍♂️

@TDHorizon Nothing to do with that. Because it's bare bones and poorly done🤷‍♂️

@Mr-Cage Glad you agree 😉

Absolute idiots buying this.

Apart from the lack of physical media, the long crossover period would also be an issue for me. Similar to this generation. New platform not being fully optimised due to still making games for the previous platform

🤣too true. Totally agree

@Hundred_Hand_Slap probably not as many as the device you used to message on here🤷‍♂️
*Excuse my rude reply......just really pis*** off right now

@Propaperpusher Nothing worse than "i told you so" posts. Give yourself a well deserved pat on the back 👍🏻

Whilst I agree with everything you have suggested in this article, i cant see Sony changing anything for the better. They are making record profits just now with their radio silence behaviour. We are enthusiasts mostly on this site and so probably in the minority. If the majority keep purchasing their microtransactions on Fifa, Fortnite etc etc I just cant see Sony changing anything

@Flobbots Right now im totally disheartened. Sony behaviour over the last few years has really ground me down as a gamer (old). There have been a some great high points but the company has changed so much. Maybe it's me that's the problem and im not their target audience anymore.🤷‍♂️

Great article that nails my sentiment exactly. Been with PlayStation from the start. Own all the main devices, Sadly I'll be bowing out after this generation. Even my kids are peeved off. They are quite proud of the disc collection on display along with there other things they like to collect. ☹️

This shouldn't be an argument about us v them among ourselves ( physical v digital ) both can exist together quite happily. No-one should be celebrating less choice imo 😕

I dont like it, I'll buy the game but not the Ultimate Edition. 🤬

This sounds absolutely amazing. Like that it's tougher and they have mixed it up a bit.

VR mode ?Pretty please🙏

Ace Combat. Im happy

Ahh excellent reading. Cheered me right up the "prophet" doubling down on his mistake🤣. Sure there will be a sale along soon 🙏