@DennisReynolds my copy is the digital deluxe and I cannot access it at all. When I upgraded to a pro, I probably never switched the new console to primary. But I can’t access my account details to even check that! Wtf Sony.
Wish these were also offered in an Edge version. I know it’s a limited market but still 😁. No matter how cool it looks, I’m not using a non Edge controller ever again.
You bet I’ll support this. And my follow PS gamers, if you want more and bigger games like Starfield, then do your part and buy these pilot titles from Xbox. Let’s show them there is a demand on PlayStation and give them reason to continue.
Still a misleading title. Now it sounds like overall yearly sales dropped in the UK by 19% compared to the previous year lol. Why not just say sales dipped 19% from Nov to Dec? That’s normal. And avoids all confusion.
Incredibly misleading title. Thought this meant yoy. Of course sales will dip from Black Friday month. The header is disingenuous and makes it seem like sales of the console have fallen off.
@Intr1n5ic It’s accurate. Metaphors aren’t facts. The reality is many games do go on for absurd lengths of time, and new games or sequels get pushed back in favor of reusing assets and milking the existing game. So to my broader point, even single player “live service” games are a problem, even if there are better examples of that than Valhalla.
@LiamCroft Yes and look how long it’s been since we got a new AC. Just constant updates to the same game for five years instead of new ones. Live service needs to die.
For all the sh*t Sony takes for “moneyhatting” and timed exclusives, Nintendo is the real scumbag of this practice, and their names are never even mentioned. Maybe because it’s primarily Japanese games, but nobody does this more than Nintendo. It’s time they get called out and ripped to shreds. But I assume they’ll continue to skate under the radar because everyone loves Nintendo 🙄.
@thefourfoldroot1 I know what you meant. Games do respect your time. Trophies are completely optional. Not obtaining trophies shouldn’t detract from your enjoyment. Like you, I choose to go after these and fully expect to put in blood and sweat to get them. Working on Like a Dragon Ishin. Talk about a time sink!! But that’s a choice I made. As for no death trophies, I relish the challenge. That also isn’t necessary. Too many games have made plats meaningless, so I appreciate both the grind and difficulty. I’ll agree with thought on VR trophies. Tough to do by yourself though the new pass through mode on VR2 should hopefully make it easier.
@thefourfoldroot1 So basically you want platinum trophies that require minimal skill and limited time and effort. Trophies are supposed to be “earned” and plats a collection of your gaming achievements. If you want mindless trophies, there are no shortage of “Press X” cheeses in the store.
I am not going to support these far inferior versions of the games because Microsoft money hatted Sega for an exclusive current gen version just as they did with Yakuza Like A Dragon. With all the crap Sony takes for this practice, Microsoft gets a free pass for the same tactics. I will buy both when and if PlayStation gets PS5 native games.
@awp69 I just read that on ResetEra. So PS4 is 1080/60 and Series X is 4K/120 with significantly faster load times. What a massive slap in the face. And yet the gaming media, including supposed PlayStation specific sites, haven’t even mentioned it since it was announced. Unbelievable.
@Kalvort Let me know when Sony buys two of the largest “PUBLISHERS” in gaming, then we’ll talk. And save the lame “if Sony had the money they would too” excuse because there’s absolutely no evidence to suggest that and is pure heresay.
For once Jim is right. It’s bad for gaming and even worse for the industry. He’s actually doing what he should - fighting for his PlayStation customers. It’s about time someone stood up to Lord Spencer.
@IonMagi No chance bud. At worst, you’d still have a PS4 version but PS5 as well. I can’t think of any cases where a PS4 & PS5 version came out but the sequel went backwards and omitted the PS5. If such an example exists, it’s an extreme anomaly.
Clear PlayStation bias on display, as it should be on a dedicated site. But I don’t see how this topped Microsoft or Nintendo’s shows. While there weee great reveals, the vast majority of what was shown will be available on other systems. Meanwhile, the lion’s share of what we saw on the MS and Ninty shows were exclusives, timed exclusives, or had exclusive comment. Sony’s show did nothing to convince me I needed a PlayStation. Microsoft & Nintendo both showed why you want in their respective ecosystems.
Getting so tired of seeing these State of Plays and focus of 3rd Party or Indy. Getting out front to set expectations doesn’t excuse the fact that it’s becoming sickeningly rare for them to showcase the first parties. That’s what people want to see. Beyond GOW and a few Marvel games due in 2023/2024, we have virtually no confirmations of anything from any first party studios. Where’s the roadmap? What’s up with all these studios they bought? I’m bracing myself for the inevitable reveal of a near pure GAAS lineup. That’s NOT what made Sony the top system last gen. All that good will they built is literally being pissed away in the wind. Looking so forward to another State of Play that shows games largely playable on Xbox.
@Deljo You’re missing the point. There are excellent Switch games no doubt. But trophies/achievements have massive followings, even if you personally aren’t interested in them. There are simply no shortage of great titles that do offer trophies/achievements.
@Deljo How so? All PS games starting in 2008 were required to have trophy support, so what exactly have I missed? This service and legacy offerings are brand new. There’s only so much time in a day, and most people have backlogs. If a legacy game doesn’t have trophy support, there are no lack of great games to play that do.
@Apfelschteiner I know the reasons are the different, but I meant deja vu as in a major platform exiting hardware. It may sound far fetched it theory, but so did Sega at the time. Not saying for sure it’ll happen, but that sure sounds like the direction they’re heading at least.
This sounds like Sega deja vu. At this rate, I don’t know if I’d be that surprised if they left the console business. Jim Ryan spends so much time talking about expansion, live service, and other platforms, it’s like they keep giving less and less reasons to own a PlayStation. Exclusives may stay around for a bit, but you know Sony is salivating to put God of War on any machine that can run code. And I don’t think this view is extreme, but understanding of reality.
Wow thank you so much for protecting me Sony!! I’m so glad you were there to choose what was appropriate for me despite me being an adult and having ratings with descriptions to help make educated choices. Hopefully a TLOU2 pacifist patch is coming shortly as well 😃!
@Rural-Bandit How do you know that? MS has added nothing positive to the industry and has single-handedly steered it away from ownership while removing content from established platforms like PlayStation. Just because Tencent is Chinese, what proof is there that them owning major ddvs of publishers wouldn’t be better than MS? Honest question, but they may be better than Xbox.
@GamingFan4Lyf So tired of the lame Xbone narrative that every stolen publisher and dev they got was on life support. It’s just sad to hear this repeatedly.
@iamtylerdurden1 Blame the media for Spencer’s good guy image. Not sure how anyone misses such a blatant pathologically lying greaseball who’s mastery of misleading rhetoric deserves Nobel level recognition. But the media drools all over him like he’s a god. Including the mods here, on a pro PlayStation site. I truly believe if Spencer got actual backlash instead of bootlicking from the media, Starfield would be coming to PS5 this November.
@eltomo they absolutely 100% should be defending themselves. When you threaten to remove the top selling Game every single year from the largest player base, you better come prepared with promises and assurances. They should actually be applying this retroactively to Zenimax. Hopefully regulators will put enough pressure on them that they will.
@get2sammyb No amount of “But but but” is going to change people’s minds. People don’t come to PlayStation for GaaS. They want the single player strong narrative game of the year contenders. There are no shortage of service games, and people know where to find them. You can write fifty articles begging gamers to give Sony’s live service crap plan a chance, and it won’t change anything. At the end of the day, it sounds to me like Sony has come to terms with the fact they will absolutely shed customers with their new direction. The real question will be individual choices on where people want to game. And depending on Sony’s future single player output, it may not be on PlayStation.
@LiamCroft So Sony should just stand there like a punching bag while MS continues to rip away the biggest names in gaming? They ripped away two of the largest “publishers” in gaming. Names like Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Doom, Dishonored, Rage, Prey, Call of Duty, Overwatch, and Diablo. Most of these will be exclusive, if they haven’t already been confirmed. Sony just bought ONE “dev”. Microsoft isn’t stopping here. All I read (including on parts of this site) is how great the Zenimax and Activision buyouts are. Sony buys one “dev” and suddenly consolidation is bad. Where was that sentiment, especially in the media, when MS subtracted all those games from PlayStation. Maybe you’re content to watch all your content go to a competitor. But if Sony can’t retaliate, I’ll just join team green. And I won’t be the only one. Very poor take on this from a PS mod.
But but but PlayStation is bending us over! What happened to everyone who said they weren’t supporting paying the up charge or buying it again? I guess despite all the whining, people understand it’s fair and are willing to pay for quality.
@Flaming_Kaiser Because you still have to sell your new system. Infamous Second Son was the first major first party game for ps4, and I’m pretty sure the customer base will similar and smaller in size to the current one. It’s a risk you have to take as a platform holder.
@OmegaStriver This! It’s really time people stop giving Sony a pass on this. I get the PS5 is really hard to get, but you can’t keep hanging on and dragging down your biggest games.
Honest question, how is Switch seemingly unaffected by this? They’re monthly sales totals indicate they’re meeting demand and not suffering from semiconductor shortages like Sony or MS. At least not nearly to the same degree. What are they doing differently?
@BamBamBaklava89 Sure sounds like it. Imagine the backlash if Sony only released MLB The Show this year on X1 and not Series X. It’s amazing how much crap gaming media allows Microsoft to get away with (including dedicated PS sites!) but not the other way around.
@KippDynamite Exactly. Why should companies spend resources on new games when they can milk their existing catalogs to death? This article and the many others like it sadly prove the demand is there…. 😔
And this is exactly why we can’t get a GTA 6 and why we’ll be waiting a decade between new Rockstar games. All people want are remasters and lapping up micro transactions that keep a game from 2013 one of the most profitable on a monthly basis. FML!
@LiamCroft I’d say it’s more Sony having to react. They have no choice but to react. Resting on your laurels is a death sentence in business. At least Sony’s few recent purchases have already been near exclusive to PlayStation.
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Re: PSN Down Worldwide as PS5, PS4 Players Can't Log In or Play Online
@DennisReynolds my copy is the digital deluxe and I cannot access it at all. When I upgraded to a pro, I probably never switched the new console to primary. But I can’t access my account details to even check that! Wtf Sony.
Re: Gallery: Astro Bot Has the Best PS5 Controller Design Yet
Wish these were also offered in an Edge version. I know it’s a limited market but still 😁. No matter how cool it looks, I’m not using a non Edge controller ever again.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei 5: Vengeance on PS5, PS4 Confirmed, Out in June 2024
Yes!!! Excellent choice Atlus! Put it up for preorder immediately so I can give you my money 😍.
Re: Xbox Game Hi-Fi Rush Announced for PS5, Out Next Month
You bet I’ll support this. And my follow PS gamers, if you want more and bigger games like Starfield, then do your part and buy these pilot titles from Xbox. Let’s show them there is a demand on PlayStation and give them reason to continue.
Re: PS5's UK Sales End 2023 Down by 19%, But Still the Leading Console
Still a misleading title. Now it sounds like overall yearly sales dropped in the UK by 19% compared to the previous year lol. Why not just say sales dipped 19% from Nov to Dec? That’s normal. And avoids all confusion.
Re: PS5's UK Christmas Sales Down 19%, But Still the Leading Console
Incredibly misleading title. Thought this meant yoy. Of course sales will dip from Black Friday month. The header is disingenuous and makes it seem like sales of the console have fallen off.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Hogwarts Legacy Stops The Crew Motorfest from Topping the Podium
Starfield down to #8 in just one week LOL! 😂😂😂
Re: PS5 Showpiece Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Jumps to the PC Dimension in July
Pitiful. The only PlayStation releases these day are on PC. The company has truly lost its way.
Re: Sony Aiming for At Least Two Big PS5 Exclusives Each Year Across 'Every Major Genre'
@Intr1n5ic It’s accurate. Metaphors aren’t facts. The reality is many games do go on for absurd lengths of time, and new games or sequels get pushed back in favor of reusing assets and milking the existing game. So to my broader point, even single player “live service” games are a problem, even if there are better examples of that than Valhalla.
Re: Sony Aiming for At Least Two Big PS5 Exclusives Each Year Across 'Every Major Genre'
@Intr1n5ic It was a metaphor 🤦🏻♂️…
Re: Sony Aiming for At Least Two Big PS5 Exclusives Each Year Across 'Every Major Genre'
@LiamCroft Yes and look how long it’s been since we got a new AC. Just constant updates to the same game for five years instead of new ones. Live service needs to die.
Re: Tactical RPG Remake Front Mission 1st Shedding Switch Exclusivity for PS4
No PS5 native version?
Re: Two Weeks Prior to PS5, PS4 Release, Tin Hearts Goes Timed Exclusive to Switch
For all the sh*t Sony takes for “moneyhatting” and timed exclusives, Nintendo is the real scumbag of this practice, and their names are never even mentioned. Maybe because it’s primarily Japanese games, but nobody does this more than Nintendo. It’s time they get called out and ripped to shreds. But I assume they’ll continue to skate under the radar because everyone loves Nintendo 🙄.
Re: The Jump Scares May Be the Hardest Part of Switchback VR's Platinum
@thefourfoldroot1 I know what you meant. Games do respect your time. Trophies are completely optional. Not obtaining trophies shouldn’t detract from your enjoyment. Like you, I choose to go after these and fully expect to put in blood and sweat to get them. Working on Like a Dragon Ishin. Talk about a time sink!! But that’s a choice I made. As for no death trophies, I relish the challenge. That also isn’t necessary. Too many games have made plats meaningless, so I appreciate both the grind and difficulty. I’ll agree with thought on VR trophies. Tough to do by yourself though the new pass through mode on VR2 should hopefully make it easier.
Re: The Jump Scares May Be the Hardest Part of Switchback VR's Platinum
@thefourfoldroot1 So basically you want platinum trophies that require minimal skill and limited time and effort. Trophies are supposed to be “earned” and plats a collection of your gaming achievements. If you want mindless trophies, there are no shortage of “Press X” cheeses in the store.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy the Persona 3 Portable, Persona 4 Golden Remasters?
I am not going to support these far inferior versions of the games because Microsoft money hatted Sega for an exclusive current gen version just as they did with Yakuza Like A Dragon. With all the crap Sony takes for this practice, Microsoft gets a free pass for the same tactics. I will buy both when and if PlayStation gets PS5 native games.
Re: Persona 4 Golden (PS4) - An Utterly Engrossing RPG, and That's the Truth
@awp69 I just read that on ResetEra. So PS4 is 1080/60 and Series X is 4K/120 with significantly faster load times. What a massive slap in the face. And yet the gaming media, including supposed PlayStation specific sites, haven’t even mentioned it since it was announced. Unbelievable.
Re: Persona 3 Portable (PS4) - Brooding JRPG Is Still Superb
Same question as with PErsona 4. I’d like to know the differences between the PS4 version and Series X version.
Re: Persona 4 Golden (PS4) - An Utterly Engrossing RPG, and That's the Truth
I’d like to know the differences between the PS4 version and Series X version since PS owners got screwed.
Re: Sony Won't Let Microsoft's $69 Billion Activision Acquisition Go, Stresses It's Bad for Gaming
@Kalvort Let me know when Sony buys two of the largest “PUBLISHERS” in gaming, then we’ll talk. And save the lame “if Sony had the money they would too” excuse because there’s absolutely no evidence to suggest that and is pure heresay.
Re: Sony Won't Let Microsoft's $69 Billion Activision Acquisition Go, Stresses It's Bad for Gaming
For once Jim is right. It’s bad for gaming and even worse for the industry. He’s actually doing what he should - fighting for his PlayStation customers. It’s about time someone stood up to Lord Spencer.
Re: Save the Last Human by Playing Rogue-Like Dungeon Crawler Void Terrarium 2
@IonMagi No chance bud. At worst, you’d still have a PS4 version but PS5 as well. I can’t think of any cases where a PS4 & PS5 version came out but the sequel went backwards and omitted the PS5. If such an example exists, it’s an extreme anomaly.
Re: Save the Last Human by Playing Rogue-Like Dungeon Crawler Void Terrarium 2
So the original came out originally for PS4 and later added PS5. But the sequel is only for PS4?? Wtf?
Re: Poll: Was Sony's State of Play the Best Gaming Showcase of June?
Clear PlayStation bias on display, as it should be on a dedicated site. But I don’t see how this topped Microsoft or Nintendo’s shows. While there weee great reveals, the vast majority of what was shown will be available on other systems. Meanwhile, the lion’s share of what we saw on the MS and Ninty shows were exclusives, timed exclusives, or had exclusive comment. Sony’s show did nothing to convince me I needed a PlayStation. Microsoft & Nintendo both showed why you want in their respective ecosystems.
Re: State of Play Showcase for Thursday Confirmed, PSVR2 Games Included
Getting so tired of seeing these State of Plays and focus of 3rd Party or Indy. Getting out front to set expectations doesn’t excuse the fact that it’s becoming sickeningly rare for them to showcase the first parties. That’s what people want to see. Beyond GOW and a few Marvel games due in 2023/2024, we have virtually no confirmations of anything from any first party studios. Where’s the roadmap? What’s up with all these studios they bought? I’m bracing myself for the inevitable reveal of a near pure GAAS lineup. That’s NOT what made Sony the top system last gen. All that good will they built is literally being pissed away in the wind. Looking so forward to another State of Play that shows games largely playable on Xbox.
Re: Poll: Do PS Plus Premium's Classic Games Need Trophies for You to Play Them?
@Deljo You’re missing the point. There are excellent Switch games no doubt. But trophies/achievements have massive followings, even if you personally aren’t interested in them. There are simply no shortage of great titles that do offer trophies/achievements.
Re: Poll: Do PS Plus Premium's Classic Games Need Trophies for You to Play Them?
@Deljo How so? All PS games starting in 2008 were required to have trophy support, so what exactly have I missed? This service and legacy offerings are brand new. There’s only so much time in a day, and most people have backlogs. If a legacy game doesn’t have trophy support, there are no lack of great games to play that do.
Re: Sony: Acquisition of Bungie Represents a Major Step Forward in Becoming More Multiplatform
@Apfelschteiner I know the reasons are the different, but I meant deja vu as in a major platform exiting hardware. It may sound far fetched it theory, but so did Sega at the time. Not saying for sure it’ll happen, but that sure sounds like the direction they’re heading at least.
Re: Sony: Acquisition of Bungie Represents a Major Step Forward in Becoming More Multiplatform
This sounds like Sega deja vu. At this rate, I don’t know if I’d be that surprised if they left the console business. Jim Ryan spends so much time talking about expansion, live service, and other platforms, it’s like they keep giving less and less reasons to own a PlayStation. Exclusives may stay around for a bit, but you know Sony is salivating to put God of War on any machine that can run code. And I don’t think this view is extreme, but understanding of reality.
Re: Outriders Has so Far Failed to Turn a Profit for Square Enix
That’s what happens when you put a day one release on Gamepass. 🤷🏻♂️
Re: Gran Turismo 7's PS5, PS4 Platinum Will Be Time Consuming But Attainable
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Re: Distressing Horror Martha Is Dead Censored on PS5, PS4
Wow thank you so much for protecting me Sony!! I’m so glad you were there to choose what was appropriate for me despite me being an adult and having ratings with descriptions to help make educated choices. Hopefully a TLOU2 pacifist patch is coming shortly as well 😃!
Re: So, It Seems Xbox Really Will Keep Activision Games Like Call of Duty on PS5, PS4
@Rural-Bandit How do you know that? MS has added nothing positive to the industry and has single-handedly steered it away from ownership while removing content from established platforms like PlayStation. Just because Tencent is Chinese, what proof is there that them owning major ddvs of publishers wouldn’t be better than MS? Honest question, but they may be better than Xbox.
Re: So, It Seems Xbox Really Will Keep Activision Games Like Call of Duty on PS5, PS4
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Re: So, It Seems Xbox Really Will Keep Activision Games Like Call of Duty on PS5, PS4
@GamingFan4Lyf So tired of the lame Xbone narrative that every stolen publisher and dev they got was on life support. It’s just sad to hear this repeatedly.
Re: So, It Seems Xbox Really Will Keep Activision Games Like Call of Duty on PS5, PS4
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Re: Microsoft Says Call of Duty and Activision Games Will Keep Releasing on PlayStation Beyond Current Deals
@iamtylerdurden1 Blame the media for Spencer’s good guy image. Not sure how anyone misses such a blatant pathologically lying greaseball who’s mastery of misleading rhetoric deserves Nobel level recognition. But the media drools all over him like he’s a god. Including the mods here, on a pro PlayStation site. I truly believe if Spencer got actual backlash instead of bootlicking from the media, Starfield would be coming to PS5 this November.
Re: Microsoft Says Call of Duty and Activision Games Will Keep Releasing on PlayStation Beyond Current Deals
@eltomo they absolutely 100% should be defending themselves. When you threaten to remove the top selling Game every single year from the largest player base, you better come prepared with promises and assurances. They should actually be applying this retroactively to Zenimax. Hopefully regulators will put enough pressure on them that they will.
Re: Talking Point: What PS5, PS4 Live Service Games from Sony Do You Want?
@get2sammyb No amount of “But but but” is going to change people’s minds. People don’t come to PlayStation for GaaS. They want the single player strong narrative game of the year contenders. There are no shortage of service games, and people know where to find them. You can write fifty articles begging gamers to give Sony’s live service crap plan a chance, and it won’t change anything. At the end of the day, it sounds to me like Sony has come to terms with the fact they will absolutely shed customers with their new direction. The real question will be individual choices on where people want to game. And depending on Sony’s future single player output, it may not be on PlayStation.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Bungie Buyout Means Little for PS5, PS4 Fans Right Now
@LiamCroft So Sony should just stand there like a punching bag while MS continues to rip away the biggest names in gaming? They ripped away two of the largest “publishers” in gaming. Names like Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Doom, Dishonored, Rage, Prey, Call of Duty, Overwatch, and Diablo. Most of these will be exclusive, if they haven’t already been confirmed. Sony just bought ONE “dev”. Microsoft isn’t stopping here. All I read (including on parts of this site) is how great the Zenimax and Activision buyouts are. Sony buys one “dev” and suddenly consolidation is bad. Where was that sentiment, especially in the media, when MS subtracted all those games from PlayStation. Maybe you’re content to watch all your content go to a competitor. But if Sony can’t retaliate, I’ll just join team green. And I won’t be the only one. Very poor take on this from a PS mod.
Re: August 2021 NPD: Ghost of Tsushima Up 108 Places Into Second Thanks to Director's Cut
But but but PlayStation is bending us over! What happened to everyone who said they weren’t supporting paying the up charge or buying it again? I guess despite all the whining, people understand it’s fair and are willing to pay for quality.
Re: Soapbox: After a Year of Silence, Today's PlayStation Showcase Can't Afford Dead Air
@Flaming_Kaiser Because you still have to sell your new system. Infamous Second Son was the first major first party game for ps4, and I’m pretty sure the customer base will similar and smaller in size to the current one. It’s a risk you have to take as a platform holder.
Re: Soapbox: After a Year of Silence, Today's PlayStation Showcase Can't Afford Dead Air
@OmegaStriver This! It’s really time people stop giving Sony a pass on this. I get the PS5 is really hard to get, but you can’t keep hanging on and dragging down your biggest games.
Re: Gulp! PS5 Stock Shortages Could Last Until 2023
Honest question, how is Switch seemingly unaffected by this? They’re monthly sales totals indicate they’re meeting demand and not suffering from semiconductor shortages like Sony or MS. At least not nearly to the same degree. What are they doing differently?
Re: Sony Will Make You Pay Extra to Upgrade Horizon Forbidden West from PS4 to PS5
@thefourfoldroot Bravo to finally see someone call it like it is.
Re: Soapbox: Don't Let Psychonauts 2 Pass You By
@BamBamBaklava89 Sure sounds like it. Imagine the backlash if Sony only released MLB The Show this year on X1 and not Series X. It’s amazing how much crap gaming media allows Microsoft to get away with (including dedicated PS sites!) but not the other way around.
Re: Soapbox: Where's My Red Dead Redemption 2 PS5 Version, Rockstar?
@KippDynamite Exactly. Why should companies spend resources on new games when they can milk their existing catalogs to death? This article and the many others like it sadly prove the demand is there…. 😔
Re: Soapbox: Where's My Red Dead Redemption 2 PS5 Version, Rockstar?
And this is exactly why we can’t get a GTA 6 and why we’ll be waiting a decade between new Rockstar games. All people want are remasters and lapping up micro transactions that keep a game from 2013 one of the most profitable on a monthly basis. FML!
Re: Former Sony Boss Fearful of Industry Consolidation
@LiamCroft I’d say it’s more Sony having to react. They have no choice but to react. Resting on your laurels is a death sentence in business. At least Sony’s few recent purchases have already been near exclusive to PlayStation.