@WobberleyBob I dont even know why we are still using the term ‘next generatioN at all tbh. The leaps are about extra power buts its not such a leap that it makes people totality ditch the previous console. The days of it being a new and extra exciting generation are gone.
It is a net profit. PC will always be popular but I don’t see PlayStation abandoning hardware at all. I see Xbox’s next leap being a hybrid console or at least with a handheld releasing simultaneously and them trying to push for Steam app. For PlayStation, the brand is so strong that it will keep selling and selling.
The issue that many need to understand, is that the leaps in technology are shrinking. We no longer see 8 bit to 16 bit, to 32 bit etc style leaps. That’s why many have stayed with PS4 but are now gradually making the step up.
The evolution of console technology is changing. PC’s are brilliant but I don’t see a non console future. What I do see is a console market that relies the handheld arena very heavily indeed.
Just started playing this on PS5 and it’s hilarious. Fast paced, crazy. So simple but also so much fun. Only a couple of quid so I highly recommend this one!!! 8/10
It is seriously impressive and runs much better than Xcloud. It will be good when even more games are added but it is superb stuff and another reason to own this!
The figures are exactly what were expected. I’m only surprised that anyone is surprised by it. What I would say though is that when we talk about Game Pass and sales that Xbox will make via PS and Steam, that money is being made by Microsoft rather than Xbox. You only have to read Satya Nadella’s comments recently - he regards to the ‘Microsoft gaming division’ rather than Xbox. He can’t wait for Xbox to be scrapped and have Microsoft Gaming as the brand once and for all.
I play on Xbox mainly but am not so blind as to see that Xbox is moving away from hardware totally.
We need to see more games on PS5. It still feels to me like it’s just a PS4 upgrade and little more. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy it and love the games but it still doesn’t feel like it’s really brought enough yet.
Where is the update though??? Was supposed to be today but nothing yet and it’s just gone 11pm BST in the UK. Very strange for an update to be confirmed and then not actually happen. @liamcroft Any news or ideas as to why it’s not been released yet?
@Kidfunkadelic83 It’s mostly okay with a mobile hotspot but you will want to have unlimited data if you use that. The new Wi fi log in option will be helpful - I can’t for the life of me think why that wasn’t there from the start tbh. PS5 hardwired is essential though. If you haven’t got it on Ethernet, forget it mate.
The Wi fi log is much needed and very welcome. Mist hotel hotspots these days are really good and that means more PlayStation time for me! When announced, I was highly sceptical about the device but since I have had it, it has increased my gaming time. At home, if TV is being used, I am on the Portal and tbh just feel like I’m playing PS5 in my hands.
It’s got issues and won’t be for everyone , but with more updates, this can get even better for PS gamers everywhere.
I have defended Xbox but no longer. This is the final straw. Phil Spencer is an abhorrent and uncaring mega corps fool. Him, Booty and Bind should be collecting their P45’s not bonuses.
I just do not see the point of this at all. At a time when PlayStation’s profit margins are as tight as they have ever been, and a time when generational leaps are now limited, to release a mid gen console that will cost silly money, seems risky, greedy and lacking in any sense.
Sure, it will appeal to a very limited number of people and be a niche hardware product but the money for this could be used to put into what matters and that is games - and I’m not talking about AAA blockbuster stuff here as that needs to be cut down.
PlayStation are becoming so obsessed with hardware that the games are drying up.
I don’t know why they don’t just shelve the idea of a PS5 Pro and just release the PS6 when the time comes and he market is ready as a whole.
If they release just a limited amount of the PRO console, then maybe that will be fine but they also risk making losses on the console and that could very easily push PlayStation into the red.
It’s a risky game they are about to play and one that they do not need to take at all.
I was sceptical when I first got it but have been blown away by just how brilliant it is. Even connected to my mobile phones hotspot it works so well. As long as PS5 is hard wired the results are amazing. Can’t wait to have this for playing on PS5 Pro and then PS6. Compared to streaming from Xbox this is a whole new game.
So a company that is so close to slipping into the red financially is going to release yet more hardware.
Madness!
They will sell this at over £600 to try and make it viable but with a lack of games to utilise the tech, this is a risky move for PlayStation and it seems they are not learning that we need games more than hardware.
A Pro just isn’t necessary at this time when PS6 will be here by 2027 more than likely.
The tech is fine but they haven’t supported it. It’s been about as well marketed as the Xbox Series X/S. It is one of the reasons that PlayStation profit margins are so tight.
They have become increasingly obsessed with hardware and are not learning lessons. The PS5 Pro will lose them money as well.
They just don’t seem to understand that the games are always what brings success.
They need to drop the obsession with hardware because it they don’t, it won’t just be Xbox who are 3rd party only publishers soon.
So more hardware for less games. That makes sense - not. With PlayStation profit margins being so weak, this seems crazy as they will lose money on it and potentially push themselves to the red.
No wonder Nintendo are holding back on a Switch 2 when it’s still outselling PS5 despite being over 7 years old. I know Nintendo is massive in Japan but it’s crazy that it’s still selling those numbers. This gen isn’t next gen - more like dead gen.
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Re: These Are All 2,800+ PS5 Games You Can Stream Directly to PS Portal Now
@get2sammyb This is a really incredible update and one that tempts me into getting one.
For these games - do you HAVE to own a PS5 or can you buy and stream them like Stadia did?
Re: Poll: Is PS Portal the Biggest Surprise Hit of the PS5 Generation?
@ShogunRok Do we have a sales figure at all?
Re: PS6 Manufacturing Scheduled to Get Underway in Early 2027
@WobberleyBob I dont even know why we are still using the term ‘next generatioN at all tbh.
The leaps are about extra power buts its not such a leap that it makes people totality ditch the previous console.
The days of it being a new and extra exciting generation are gone.
Re: Rumour: Halo: The Master Chief Collection Coming to PS5 This Year
Coming to PS5 is great but actually, these games on Switch 2 really appeals
Re: PS5 Tipped to Top Switch 2 Sales in the US This Year
This deserve a ‘duh of course’ response.
Re: The State of the UK's Physical Games Market Might Explain PS5 Pro's Lack of Disc Drive
Sadly things change and digital is convenient.
Re: Talking Point: Is PlayStation Right in Saying PC Isn't a 'Major Risk' to Console Business?
It is a net profit. PC will always be popular but I don’t see PlayStation abandoning hardware at all. I see Xbox’s next leap being a hybrid console or at least with a handheld releasing simultaneously and them trying to push for Steam app.
For PlayStation, the brand is so strong that it will keep selling and selling.
The issue that many need to understand, is that the leaps in technology are shrinking. We no longer see 8 bit to 16 bit, to 32 bit etc style leaps. That’s why many have stayed with PS4 but are now gradually making the step up.
The evolution of console technology is changing. PC’s are brilliant but I don’t see a non console future. What I do see is a console market that relies the handheld arena very heavily indeed.
Re: Stick Fight: The Game
Just started playing this on PS5 and it’s hilarious. Fast paced, crazy. So simple but also so much fun. Only a couple of quid so I highly recommend this one!!!
8/10
Re: Happy New Year from the Push Square Team
Happy New Year to you all!!!
Re: Game of the Year: Push Square Readers Write About Their Favourite PS5 Games of 2024
Cool! Always nice to see your own name in lights!! Well done everyone! Some great reviews there and a really eclectic mix of titles as well!
Have an awesome Xmas all and thanks to Push Square for so much information and PlayStation goodness!!!
Re: Poll: What Are Your Gaming Plans for the Holidays?
Gonna dive not my stupid backlog of games!!!! Want to finally wrap op Ghost of Tshima and GOW Ragnarok
In between that I am going to play Wipeout again as I love those games and it’s been sat on my PS5 waiting to be unleashed!
Happy holidays everyone!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 560
Astro Bot!! This isn’t game of the year. It’s one of the best 3D platformers of all time. Brilliant.
Re: December's PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Are Available on PS5, PS4 Now
Sonic is also available via Cloud beta as well which is cool
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 558
Still having the off session with the laughably bad UFL but mainly Astrobot. What a game
Re: Site News: Write to Us About Your PS5 Game of the Year for 2024
Done. There was a clear winner for me!
Re: Hands On: PS Plus Cloud Streaming Is a Game Changer for PS Portal
It is seriously impressive and runs much better than Xcloud. It will be good when even more games are added but it is superb stuff and another reason to own this!
Re: Hang Out with Geoff Keighley in Fortnite's Island for The Game Awards
@SuntannedDuck2 It was amateurish at best
Re: Hang Out with Geoff Keighley in Fortnite's Island for The Game Awards
@SuntannedDuck2 Last years game awards were so embarrassing. The presenters couldn’t even read the auto cues!!!
Keighley is toxic.
Re: Hang Out with Geoff Keighley in Fortnite's Island for The Game Awards
I would rather stick massive pins in my eyes than spend anytime with Geoff Keighley
Re: Xbox Appears to Be Readying More Releases for PS5
Everything will be on PS5 soon sadly
Re: PS5 Dominates UK Black Ops 6 Sales, As Game Pass Causes Xbox Share to Collapse
The figures are exactly what were expected. I’m only surprised that anyone is surprised by it. What I would say though is that when we talk about Game Pass and sales that Xbox will make via PS and Steam, that money is being made by Microsoft rather than Xbox.
You only have to read Satya Nadella’s comments recently - he regards to the ‘Microsoft gaming division’ rather than Xbox.
He can’t wait for Xbox to be scrapped and have Microsoft Gaming as the brand once and for all.
I play on Xbox mainly but am not so blind as to see that Xbox is moving away from hardware totally.
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
It’s for enthusiasts who want a digital only console.
If you have physical games it’s pointless unless you want to pay £800 for it.
Re: Poll: Would You Buy PS5 Pro If It Was Cheaper?
@Czar_Khastik The sarcasm is real in this comment
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
For a company so ahead of the ‘competition’ they do seem rather obsessed with blaming Xbox for everything.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
£700????? Or £800 of you want a disc drive for a few extras?
Have Sony gone mad???
Re: Japan Sales Charts: SMT 5: Vengeance Tops, Still Sells Best on Switch
We need to see more games on PS5. It still feels to me like it’s just a PS4 upgrade and little more. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy it and love the games but it still doesn’t feel like it’s really brought enough yet.
Re: New PS Portal Firmware Update Adds Better Wi-Fi Features and More
Where is the update though??? Was supposed to be today but nothing yet and it’s just gone 11pm
BST in the UK. Very strange for an update to be confirmed and then not actually happen. @liamcroft Any news or ideas as to why it’s not been released yet?
Re: New PS Portal Firmware Update Adds Better Wi-Fi Features and More
@Kidfunkadelic83 It’s mostly okay with a mobile hotspot but you will want to have unlimited data if you use that. The new Wi fi log in option will be helpful - I can’t for the life of me think why that wasn’t there from the start tbh. PS5 hardwired is essential though. If you haven’t got it on Ethernet, forget it mate.
Re: New PS Portal Firmware Update Adds Better Wi-Fi Features and More
The Wi fi log is much needed and very welcome. Mist hotel hotspots these days are really good and that means more PlayStation time for me!
When announced, I was highly sceptical about the device but since I have had it, it has increased my gaming time.
At home, if TV is being used, I am on the Portal and tbh just feel like I’m playing PS5 in my hands.
It’s got issues and won’t be for everyone , but with more updates, this can get even better for PS gamers everywhere.
Re: Xbox Explains Why It Shuttered Beloved Hi-Fi Rush Developer
Phil is full of hyberbole boll0cks!! He says one thing and does another.
Re: PS Portal Still Going Strong, Demand in USA Exceeds Supply
Love mine. Works well at home and away from home as well. Been amazed actually by how well it streams. Top job.
Re: Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, More Closed in Brutal Bethesda Restructure
I have defended Xbox but no longer. This is the final straw. Phil Spencer is an abhorrent and uncaring mega corps fool.
Him, Booty and Bind should be collecting their P45’s not bonuses.
Re: Most PS5 Players Say 60fps Is a Must
I mean, I’m getting long in the tooth at nearly 46, but as the game actually plays well, who cares.
The modern gamer is so obsessed with power, looks and frame rates that far too many are judging games on that alone and not how a game actually plays.
People are already pre judging Hellblade 2 for being 30FPS.
Wait and play the game and see if it’s actually any good. If it is then, the frame rate won’t matter anyway.
The obsession with tech over the actual games and how they play is like a disease for modem gamers it really is.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Takes a Dive, Elden Ring Spirit Springs Back to the Top 10
@Kidfunkadelic83 Imagine Mk9 sales!
Re: UK Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Takes a Dive, Elden Ring Spirit Springs Back to the Top 10
How the hell on earth is anyone still buying MK8 Deluxe??? 😂
Re: Random: Lara Croft Tops Mario as the Most Iconic Video Game Character of All Time, Apparently
@captainaverage Neither! Lol
Re: Poll: How Much Do You Care About 60fps on PS5?
As long as the game plays well, why the hell are we becoming so obsessed with Frame rates.
Play the game and then decide.
Re: Random: Lara Croft Tops Mario as the Most Iconic Video Game Character of All Time, Apparently
Who do they ask? The Lara Croft fan club? And since when was Croft the 1st ever female lead in a video game?
Re: Poll: Are You Playing the Stellar Blade Demo?
Demo so far is great. Will pick this up. Live this style of game.
Re: Layoffs Hit Gearbox Staff Hours After Embracer Sale
Industry is in total disarray
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Dragon's Dogma 2, Rise of the Ronin Can't Beat Princess Peach
Exclusives still work.
Re: SEGA Drops Relic Entertainment and Cuts Back Across the UK
This industry is on its knees
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About the PS5 Pro?
I just do not see the point of this at all. At a time when PlayStation’s profit margins are as tight as they have ever been, and a time when generational leaps are now limited, to release a mid gen console that will cost silly money, seems risky, greedy and lacking in any sense.
Sure, it will appeal to a very limited number of people and be a niche hardware product but the money for this could be used to put into what matters and that is games - and I’m not talking about AAA blockbuster stuff here as that needs to be cut down.
PlayStation are becoming so obsessed with hardware that the games are drying up.
I don’t know why they don’t just shelve the idea of a PS5 Pro and just release the PS6 when the time comes and he market is ready as a whole.
If they release just a limited amount of the PRO console, then maybe that will be fine but they also risk making losses on the console and that could very easily push PlayStation into the red.
It’s a risky game they are about to play and one that they do not need to take at all.
Re: Talking Point: How Do You Feel About the PS5 Pro?
It’s a huge risk and pointless. It could easily send PlayStation into the red.
Re: PS Portal Is Proving Everyone's Predictions Wrong
@nocdaes I have gamed more and more since having the Portal.
Re: PS Portal Is Proving Everyone's Predictions Wrong
I was sceptical when I first got it but have been blown away by just how brilliant it is. Even connected to my mobile phones hotspot it works so well.
As long as PS5 is hard wired the results are amazing.
Can’t wait to have this for playing on PS5 Pro and then PS6. Compared to streaming from
Xbox this is a whole new game.
Superb.
Re: PS5 Pro's Rumoured Spectral Super Resolution Tech Could Be Transformative
So a company that is so close to slipping into the red financially is going to release yet more hardware.
Madness!
They will sell this at over £600 to try and make it viable but with a lack of games to utilise the tech, this is a risky move for PlayStation and it seems they are not learning that we need games more than hardware.
A Pro just isn’t necessary at this time when PS6 will be here by 2027 more than likely.
Re: Sony Allegedly Pausing PSVR2 Production Due to Surplus of Unsold Stock
The tech is fine but they haven’t supported it. It’s been about as well marketed as the Xbox Series X/S. It is one of the reasons that PlayStation profit margins are so tight.
They have become increasingly obsessed with hardware and are not learning lessons. The PS5 Pro will lose them money as well.
They just don’t seem to understand that the games are always what brings success.
They need to drop the obsession with hardware because it they don’t, it won’t just be Xbox who are 3rd party only publishers soon.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Is Up to Three Times Faster Than PS5 as Specs Surface
So more hardware for less games. That makes sense - not.
With PlayStation profit margins being so weak, this seems crazy as they will lose money on it and potentially push themselves to the red.
Just wait a couple of years for the PS6.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Slip 91% at Retail
No wonder Nintendo are holding back on a Switch 2 when it’s still outselling PS5 despite being over 7 years old. I know Nintendo is massive in Japan but it’s crazy that it’s still selling those numbers.
This gen isn’t next gen - more like dead gen.