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@Rich33 Exactly. So if they can do that on the pro hardware what is the excuse for all others.

@Mattlong78 Well, but if you need the PS6 to be great then you need to issue PSSR now and clear the issues. Better have those current problems on PS5 pro and clean those , rather to have a new generation with issues. You need to see that perspective too. So, in terms of Sony's plans, PS5 pro is needed to make PS6 great.

And this prooves the point that it is not the hardware the problem. Never was. It is the devs. Now we see how capable those are...

Of course they are. And they will get stronger in holliday season.
Alao, scalpers loosing money is always a good news.

What happened to the articles of how this generation is bad, PS5 is bad. Maybe those are with the ones for how the Portal was bad

@J2theEzzo Yes, you can say that. True. And games should be smooth on PS5 as many have proved it can be done and PS5 Pro to be with some RT or some fancy things for just people who want it.
But in general, YES, you are correct.

@Neither_scene In general is true but why we do not have smae problems all arround. We get games that are so beautiful like hogwards, cyberpunk, F1 etc. and then some game "oh, we cant do it with that hardware". Well, it seems it can be done.

@Th3solution Maybe they here mean only the purchases from the PS store. This way they will know since they have your history.
Not sure how they count if I buy second hand game and install it - is this a buy or not a buy.
Interesting indeed.

Ahhh, I am so happy to hear that.

And here is the proof that it is not the hardware but the software that is the problem.

@LowDefAl Thanks mate. It has earc and i have the sound bar there. I am just wandering of this smoothness i see on others. But yeah, i will not change tv just yet eventhough i want vrr.

@BusyOlf my exact thoughts.

All will depend on devs how much they will optimize and make use of it. The hardware on its own will not be enough. So on this I am skeptical.
One question guys, if anyone would know, I have the base ps5 and TV sony 49 X950H, hdmi 2.0. I think that same games are smoother when I check on youtube. I try to see if the TV is the problem and if HDMI 2.0 is the problem. But i think the 2.1 is only for 120hz. Or I am wrong?

@Jtheripper ahhh, you got me worried mate . Yes, it is not smooth unfortunately. In crowded areas is 50 fps or maybe hits 48... also it is clear that it is 1080p. Even upscaling is not good. Youd better wait for full fix and enjoy then. Also on lower price

What worries me is that good graphics among the generations ps4 ps4 ps5 - it always stays at 30 fps. For more than a decade we are stuck on this....a decade.

@Jtheripper hmm, it is not very good on my end. Especially on crowded areas.

They better fix the performance of the game, then think for dlc

@dschons Here mate - https://zora.bg/product/ps5-digital-edition-disk-drive
Not sure if they will ship though.

@dschons Yeah, we have it in Bulgaria but the price in all retailers is 121 eur. Retailers obviously adopting the scalpers model.

@Bionic-Spencer Not sure if ti would have happened. Imagine that this one came in the middle of the supply chain issues of Covid ... it would have been more expensive than now.

Ahhh, I wish we could see less often news for remasters and something new. Not that there are no new things but ballance is off.

@wildcat_kickz Smart man.

I have seen it gone and back again several times.

Immersive? The steps are like trying to escape with step dancing shoes.

@C25CLOUD Mate, that was sarcasm. This is what I meant. People hate it and say they arr smarter than Sony but at the end they sell like crazy.

One of the problems here is that physical actually is digital. Most of games nees always online or they have only the registration id and then download. Which means of servers are killed you again remain empty handed.
I have no problem with digital, i have problem with buying smth which after that you dont actually own.
And as for Sony, yes they are stupid, very, they beacame so big because they are stupid. They released the protal (so stupid) and now the pro( even more)...and then the salea data hits you. Same as digital.
Ps. Sorrt for mistakes, too many old fashioned

OMG.... if it is 69 why so expensive, if less why so cheap. People just cant be pleased. There is always something to whine about ffs.

@Titntin Same here. And it is not AAA as SW Outcast too thank god

@Czar_Khastik I say it is and I am grabbing it( of course with my rule - never day one. Let them fix things but 100% getting that).

It is great that in the article Banishers was used. It is an awesome game and much more fun and interesting then some alleged AAA games. But dont we, as the players, have a fault also? Did we buy it after so many good reviews. I did but moat did not. I see a lot of post and comments how bad ps year is and bad outlook for lack of games. Really ?!?!? I honestly cant keep up with very cool games and only this october i have 5 comming out. Honestly, many intersting games just people are spoiled and just want to se AAA. Well, they gor it with Outlaws...

I played banishers and it was an awesome game. Really awesome and the first game I played that made me want more side quests - so different and so interesting. A true hidden gem. Maybe marketing was very low...

The price is not the problem. The problem is the state the games are released in. Which also makes the price even higher since you pay for borken things. If they are not, then you know what it is and you paid it. Noone forced you. But buying smth to realize it is broken is *****.

@Andy22385 Exactly !!!

Ohhhh come on..... the world of the week...

In the middle of Dead Space now but this one is next.

Well, the mistake here of Push Square is that they think UK is the world and if smth is in UK then it is all arround. Nope.
In Bulgaria for example Disk drives quickly vanished and now they are soled for double the price by all retailers. All are on same price - 120 EUR.

ASTRO all the way. At least it has 0 bugs. There must be a new section for "Playable at launch" .

It is great to see wheh they do justice to a good old game. Bravo! This deserves our bucks.

Where is my Max Payne !!! I am so waiting for that.

Or 3 to 1 sales have something to do with it 🤣

Not sure if you played it but Banishers: ghosts of new eden, was the game that for the first time the side quests were as interesting as the main plot. Indeed it was the whole game of moral choices but they can learn from it.

@Gaia093 Very well said.

If it is not a souls game, I am in.

I am honestly scared of this. Imagine if those are indeed 2 diffrent for same games, we will have another reason why the full ps power is not used due to some other lower version needed to run the game. As if the previous generations are not pulling back enough ...

@IamJT Exactly!!!

Well, it was waste of keyboard strikes with all those articles and comments what mistake this pro is. You will see the sales counts and just wait for Christmas

I am now playing tdu unlimited and it needs a lot of fixing. Maybe on the pro the stuttering is gone, but the game needs core fixes. GT7 runs much smoothly and it is much more good looking.