@TDHorizon That's not digital codes as you get on Xbox and PC, those are just for buying PlayStation store credit a bit cheaper, no where near a good as the prices you can get on Xbox/PC for buying Digital games and subscriptions from 3rd party's.
Sony also have any money you have left from those vouchers locked nicely into their store.
@Steve_BTW
"Let's also not forget that a lot of the games that microsoft so "generously" gave to PlayStation were games they originally took away from PlayStation (Starfield, Indiana Jones, Avowed etc."..
Let's not forget that was Sony fault, it was Sony who decided to treat those companys like they were their own first party studios and were locking in every new release for a year
As soon as Microsoft found out that Sony were going for Starfield next Microsoft ended Sony's 3rd party exclusivity game they were playing.
"The critical thing here is that the programme still allows for used game sales, game borrowing and so on. If you buy a disc, convert it to digital, then sell it on, whoever inserts it next into their Xbox console will get the entitlement for their account and remove it from yours - which seems fair enough."
Sony announced on May 18, 2026, that it would stop porting its major single-player, narrative-driven first-party games to PC.
Sony announced on July 1, 2026 that it will stop producing physical game.
Much less than 2 months apart, not sure if they released the PC news first in the hope of limiting the damage of the physical disc removal news, if they did it didn't work.
Gran Turismo 7 only on PS5? Thought it was a PS4 title.
@Danbottomburp Well, it can also be a case of most of those titles are old and most people will have already played them.
Sony are raking in the money from the PS Plus tiers, I'm sure they could get some recent titles for Premium and still have huge amounts of $ left over.
@DoppiaD I think Sony must be the only one(and of course Nintendo) that still charge for cloud saves which you lose if you stop subscribing.
Sony and Nintendo are also in a battle to see who can offer the world's worst Digital Returns Policy .
Not a good look for when they go completely digital.
@UltimateOtaku91 It was down for some not all and for different amounts of time (you of course chose 20 hours) , it's a shame Sony don't simply come out and tell people what the problem was, you have to look to Microsoft to get the answer the CTO openly said what had happened.
"Late last night, a licensing service that sits outside of XBOX, but which XBOX depends upon, began failing. This caused some sign-in scenarios to fail, and it caused many scenarios that require an entitlement check to also fail, such as listing out your Full Library and launching games that you own. It also affected several of our publishing and store partners who depend on those same systems which is why some of you saw issues in specific games and not others."
The Xbox exec goes on to explain that once they "isolated the failing infrastructure" the Xbox Support team got to work fixing the issues, which led to the service coming back "unevenly across regions which is why some of you recovered hours before others."
@rjejr well there is if course Gamepass effect, Forza horizon 6 Halo Combat Evolved remake Beast of Reincarnation Resonance: A Plague Tale Legacy Dune Awakening Gears of war E-Day Just some of the games before October 10th They have now added Xbox backward compatibility to PC for earlier Xbox games that is also included with any tier of Gamepass.
@Oram77 That's basically true, as it's around 95 out of 100 cases that it is Sony money hatting the games, haven't they even done it on Gta 6 where they can't even mention it's on Xbox in ads, what's the other thing "Plays best on PlayStation" we'll if your preference is Sony's controller then they get away with that But we all know that usually means higher Res and FPS which is Not the case.
@0niguy why would Sony do that, they charge for any form of backwards compatibility beyond the PS4 now and people pay for it without complaint. They lock you into their Digital Store and have the worst Digital returns policy around, still no one complains.
Microsofts policy on each of these is completely the opposite of Sony's, that's why the digital converter is likely to be true for Xbox.
@Llamageddon why would anyone go digital on PlayStation? Answer = No Benefit.
Why people go Digital on Xbox.
Buy your games and subscriptions from any 3rd party at far far cheaper prices (Just like PC) , unlike Sony who lock you into their Digital Store for Everything.
'Play Anywhere' buy the Xbox version of a game get the PC version Free and vice versa. Nothing like that on PlayStation, you want it on PS5 and handheld then you pay twice.
Excellent Microsoft Digital Returns Policy.
Sony has the worst Digital returns policy I have ever seen, in fact there really is no real return policy, download it and you are stuck with it.
Sony, do You mean it has better Framerates on the standard PS5 vs Series X? "Er No we actually just mean if you prefer our controller then you will think it plays best on our console".
@Northern_munkey It was reported on most sites that they were going to make money back from existing users, so PS Plus Price rise was obviously one.
"During the recent call, CFO Tao outlined a plan for offsetting some of these elevated costs: "given the stage of our console cycle, our hardware sales strategy can be adjusted flexibly, and we intend to minimize the impact of the increased memory costs on this segment going forward by prioritizing monetization of the installed base to date and striving to further expand our software and network services revenue."
I think Xbox owners will be fine, they have The Halo Master Chief Collection, it not only has the set of Master Chief games but also includes Multiplayer, price under £20.
@Bez87
Halo will sell more on PS5 (this version) because the Xbox Halo Master Chief Collection already has Halo 1,2, 3, and Reach with 'Multiplayer', so this release is a big step backwards if you have an Xbox especially as you can get the Master Chief collection for around £11.
@Fiendish-Beaver Just imagine if Sony made a game called let's say "Concord" and industry reports estimated the development cost of Concord to be between $200 million and $400 million, then the game flops so bad it is recalled and scapped, now imagine this causes Sony to also scrap several more of this type of game despite being well into development.
Going by your doomsday scenario for Gears I would say you would think my imaginary Concord game would end Sony.
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Re: Sony Factory Will Still Have Significant PS5 Disc Manufacturing Capacity After Physical Media Deadline
Sony PlayStation have already officially announced they are not going to do Physical discs anymore, it doesn't matter what anyone else says.
Re: You Might Benefit from a $7.85 Million Payout as PlayStation Settles Anti-Trust Lawsuit
@TDHorizon That's not digital codes as you get on Xbox and PC, those are just for buying PlayStation store credit a bit cheaper, no where near a good as the prices you can get on Xbox/PC for buying Digital games and subscriptions from 3rd party's.
Sony also have any money you have left from those vouchers locked nicely into their store.
Re: 'No Talk of Sony Changing Strategy': Industry Veteran Rubbishes Recent Disc-Based Reversal Rumours
@ShadowRJ Sony's Digital Policies are shocking.
Whereas Microsofts are extremely good, it's far easier to go digital on Xbox and not be to bothered.
Re: Is Forza Horizon 6 on PS5 Still on Course for Release in 2026?
@Steve_BTW
"Let's also not forget that a lot of the games that microsoft so "generously" gave to PlayStation were games they originally took away from PlayStation (Starfield, Indiana Jones, Avowed etc."..
Let's not forget that was Sony fault, it was Sony who decided to treat those companys like they were their own first party studios and were locking in every new release for a year
As soon as Microsoft found out that Sony were going for Starfield next Microsoft ended Sony's 3rd party exclusivity game they were playing.
Re: Microsoft Confirms Xbox Disc-to-Digital Program in the Wake of Sony Decision to End PlayStation Discs
Digital Foundry says this is how it works:
"The critical thing here is that the programme still allows for used game sales, game borrowing and so on. If you buy a disc, convert it to digital, then sell it on, whoever inserts it next into their Xbox console will get the entitlement for their account and remove it from yours - which seems fair enough."
Re: Xbox 'Heard You', Purges PS5 Logos from Multiformat Game Trailers
@DennisReynolds Well people obviously think Sony's ceo will listen through social media including Twitter about physical discs.
Re: 'These Moments Don't Happen Anywhere Else': Sony Touts PS5 Exclusives After Abandoning PC
Sony announced on May 18, 2026, that it would stop porting its major single-player, narrative-driven first-party games to PC.
Sony announced on July 1, 2026 that it will stop producing physical game.
Much less than 2 months apart, not sure if they released the PC news first in the hope of limiting the damage of the physical disc removal news, if they did it didn't work.
Gran Turismo 7 only on PS5? Thought it was a PS4 title.
Re: 'We Don't Need to Aggressively Sell the Console': Sony CEO Says Timing of Memory Crisis Is 'Lucky' for PS5
@Vertere he is right though, the last time Sony made that comment a couple of months later the price of PS Plus went up.
Re: Poll: Are You Hyped for These 10 New PS Plus Games?
@Danbottomburp Well, it can also be a case of most of those titles are old and most people will have already played them.
Sony are raking in the money from the PS Plus tiers, I'm sure they could get some recent titles for Premium and still have huge amounts of $ left over.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for August 2026?
@DoppiaD I think Sony must be the only one(and of course Nintendo) that still charge for cloud saves which you lose if you stop subscribing.
Sony and Nintendo are also in a battle to see who can offer the world's worst Digital Returns Policy .
Not a good look for when they go completely digital.
Re: PSN Was Down for 6+ Hours, But All Services Now Up and Running
@UltimateOtaku91 It was down for some not all and for different amounts of time (you of course chose 20 hours) , it's a shame Sony don't simply come out and tell people what the problem was, you have to look to Microsoft to get the answer the CTO openly said what had happened.
"Late last night, a licensing service that sits outside of XBOX, but which XBOX depends upon, began failing. This caused some sign-in scenarios to fail, and it caused many scenarios that require an entitlement check to also fail, such as listing out your Full Library and launching games that you own. It also affected several of our publishing and store partners who depend on those same systems which is why some of you saw issues in specific games and not others."
The Xbox exec goes on to explain that once they "isolated the failing infrastructure" the Xbox Support team got to work fixing the issues, which led to the service coming back "unevenly across regions which is why some of you recovered hours before others."
Re: US PS5 Sales Down Almost 20% Year-Over-Year, Rounds Out Tough Month for Industry
@rjejr well there is if course Gamepass effect,
Forza horizon 6
Halo Combat Evolved remake
Beast of Reincarnation
Resonance: A Plague Tale Legacy
Dune Awakening
Gears of war E-Day
Just some of the games before October 10th
They have now added Xbox backward compatibility to PC for earlier Xbox games that is also included with any tier of Gamepass.
Re: STALKER 2 Dev Refutes Claims About Xbox's Funding for Timed Exclusivity
@Oram77 That's basically true, as it's around 95 out of 100 cases that it is Sony money hatting the games, haven't they even done it on Gta 6 where they can't even mention it's on Xbox in ads, what's the other thing "Plays best on PlayStation" we'll if your preference is Sony's controller then they get away with that But we all know that usually means higher Res and FPS which is Not the case.
Re: Poll: Are You Hyped for These 9 New PS Plus Games?
@ecurb7 I'm sure with the amount of money Sony are making from subscriptions they can easily afford to get games newer than 2 or 3 years old.
Re: PS5's Physical Disc Debacle Will Attract More Anger if This Xbox Rumour Is True
@0niguy why would Sony do that, they charge for any form of backwards compatibility beyond the PS4 now and people pay for it without complaint.
They lock you into their Digital Store and have the worst Digital returns policy around, still no one complains.
Microsofts policy on each of these is completely the opposite of Sony's, that's why the digital converter is likely to be true for Xbox.
Re: 'PS5 Has Put a Dampener on Gaming': 45% of Enthusiasts 'Seriously Considering' Leaving Sony for PC
What to expect when you are forced to go digital.
Absolutely terrible digital return policy, I can't belive how many people don't realise just how bad it is.
Re: PlayStation's First Post Since Physical Games Debacle Draws 57k Replies
@Llamageddon why would anyone go digital on PlayStation?
Answer = No Benefit.
Why people go Digital on Xbox.
Buy your games and subscriptions from any 3rd party at far far cheaper prices (Just like PC) , unlike Sony who lock you into their Digital Store for Everything.
'Play Anywhere' buy the Xbox version of a game get the PC version Free and vice versa.
Nothing like that on PlayStation, you want it on PS5 and handheld then you pay twice.
Excellent Microsoft Digital Returns Policy.
Sony has the worst Digital returns policy I have ever seen, in fact there really is no real return policy, download it and you are stuck with it.
Re: Despite Eliminating 15% of Its Workforce, Xbox Wants a Billion Players Per Day
@LogicStrikesAgain Sony are hiding that's worse, if you think Sony has finished layoffs I think you are wrong.
Re: Rumour: State of Decay 3 Dev Also Facing Xbox Axe, Just Weeks After Game Was Revealed for PS5
@Cutmastavictory Sony has their own big problems, buying those studios will not be in their plans.
Re: Bungie Loses 292 Full-Time Staff in Heavy Round of Layoffs
@Toot1st I think you may have got a bit mixed up on which company owns these layoffs.
Re: Sony Restores GTA 6 Marketing and How It 'Plays Best on PS5'
Sony, do You mean it has better Framerates on the standard PS5 vs Series X? "Er No we actually just mean if you prefer our controller then you will think it plays best on our console".
Re: Sony May Mitigate Hardware Pricing Nightmare by Simply Selling Fewer PS5s
@Northern_munkey It was reported on most sites that they were going to make money back from existing users, so PS Plus Price rise was obviously one.
"During the recent call, CFO Tao outlined a plan for offsetting some of these elevated costs: "given the stage of our console cycle, our hardware sales strategy can be adjusted flexibly, and we intend to minimize the impact of the increased memory costs on this segment going forward by prioritizing monetization of the installed base to date and striving to further expand our software and network services revenue."
Re: New Senua Game Reveal Used as a Way to Sell Ninja Theory to Suitors
Why do people believe rumours?
Re: Halo: Campaign Evolved Goes All-In on PS5 Pro Support as Xbox Bets Big on Rival Console
I think Xbox owners will be fine, they have The Halo Master Chief Collection, it not only has the set of Master Chief games but also includes Multiplayer, price under £20.
Re: Campaign Early Access Now Included in Modern Warfare 4 PS5 Pre-Orders
@Blaze215 There is worse than this.
PS5 Early Access Pre-Orders Truly Are Getting Out of Hand
Now they're becoming exclusive
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2026/06/ps5-early-access-pre-orders-truly-are-getting-out-of-hand
Re: Halo PS5 Poised to Sell Extremely Well, Topping PS Store Charts Around the World
@Bez87
Halo will sell more on PS5 (this version) because the Xbox Halo Master Chief Collection already has Halo 1,2, 3, and Reach with 'Multiplayer', so this release is a big step backwards if you have an Xbox especially as you can get the Master Chief collection for around £11.
Re: Future Xbox Exclusivity Will Be 'Case-by-Case', PS5 Ports Will Be Revealed Alongside Release Dates
There was no way they would go full multiformat with a new console on the way.
I can not see any scenario where they would not release First Party exclusives for Helix on release day
I think that covers everything.
Re: Gears of War: E-Day Is Not Coming to PS5, Xbox Confirms Console Exclusivity
@Fiendish-Beaver Just imagine if Sony made a game called let's say "Concord" and industry reports estimated the development cost of Concord to be between $200 million and $400 million, then the game flops so bad it is recalled and scapped, now imagine this causes Sony to also scrap several more of this type of game despite being well into development.
Going by your doomsday scenario for Gears I would say you would think my imaginary Concord game would end Sony.