Sakai

Shu will go down as a legend and always felt like 'one of us' Thanks for everything you did for the industry

The most underwhelming console ever, at the most obscene price ever.

The majority I have read is complaints and regret

It's a poor lego game and i just don't think Hoirzon as an IP is anywhere near as popular as Sony think it is.

Part of the reason for the sales numbers the series has is all the console bundles both games received, which inflated the numbers massively.

It's just a middle of the road IP and nowhere near the juggernaut Sony think it is

Give people the options. I mentioned before release that the lack of cpu upgrade and the 2ms frame time cost of PSSR (60fps is 16ms) means that some games would have issues like this, alot of people did.

But forcing people to play a worse version on the pro console needs fixing and being able to revert back to fsr/old settings is essential.

Watched the DF Alan Wake 2 video yesterday and the same issues. PSSR needs some serious work when it's more comparable to FSR2 than DLSS

Should have called it

Playstation 5 Pro-bably not worth it

Why so many articles when there is very little hype around for the pro at all. For the PS5 it makes a little more sense but the last few days have been borderline psychotic with the hyperbole

@0niguy from digital foundry

But it's the 16.7TF of GPU compute performance that is new information. Sony has not actually given any kind of TFLOPs number for the PlayStation 5 Pro, but prior leaks have suggested around 33.5TF - a somewhat exaggerated number that arrived with AMD RDNA 3 architecture with its dual issue FP32 functionality. Sony's confirmation of 16.7TF suggests that the dual issue FP32 support is not in the PlayStation 5 Pro - not that this is too much of a big deal as it has very, very little impact on gaming performance.

I said it in the earlier thread but you can tell by their tone deaf comments they learned a grand total of nothing

@AdamNovice no, but cancelling the ones destined for failure would be a good start

"We will take the lessons learned from Concord and continue to advance our live service capabilities to deliver future growth in this area."

Sounds to me like they learned almost zero as they are continuing on this path with fairgames etc

Xbox Series hardware spending dropped 54% year-on-year, with PS5 (-45%) and Switch (-23%) also showing sharp declines. YTD hardware spending is now 30% lower than a year ago, at $2.5 billion.

Tough times

Disapointing to see so many people stil try to justify the cash grab. And people wonder why the industry is on its knees, stop supporting this kind of thing, be better.

Played the new mission last night and didn't really notice much of a difference at all relating to difficulty. I was just having fun

Its a really fun game and well done to all involved. For the emporer!

Considering how poorly the free beta did, I'm not sure going free to play will change anything.

Just throwing more money down the drain with added dev cost and servers

Dreamcast is still my favourite console of all time

Poor remake, of a game nobody asked to be remade, sold at an extortionate price. Any people here are wondering why it failed. Sony needs to start bringing worthwhile content to pc and not old, worn out trash everyone has played already. And the heads at Sony know this based on some of their previous comments. They need PC day and date for it to be a sucess

People are beyond tired of all the lazy, low effort cash grabs Sony keeps putting out. They are losing their credibility by the day

Going to miss my guy Jin, my username was named after him after all. But I'm looking forward to Yotai, and don't have a problem with a female lead if I was honest. Yes I would have preferred Jin, but it's a non issue as long as the game is good and they improve some of the Ubisoft elements of the first.

Playstation is creatively and morally bankrupt

When it cost over $200million for Spiderman Miles Morales (a small dlc on an already developed map) I have no idea why people don't think Concord could cost $400million.

the game had a development budget of $81.7 million and a marketing budget of $25.1 million, while the licensing fee for Marvel being $106.5 million.

Even without the licensing fee the budget is over $100million for a game that was what, 75% recycled content?

400million is not only possible, but extremely likely.

Concord is the biggest failure in gaming history and nothing else comes anywhere near it.

@Intr1n5ic so the 3:1 sounds almost like a pointless made up number to bait fanboys. Saying that the sales are the same as last gen would not get the clicks obviously.

Thanks for clearing that up mate

The maths is not mathing here.

62million vs 29million is not 3:1

It's pretty much exactly the same as last gen

Remastering ps4 games when half your install base still plays on PS4, and the other half can already play it via back compat is morally bankrupt and just trying to milk your loyal customers for every penny. They have become such a lazy shadow of their former self, and it's been obvious for years this is the route they decided to take. They have destroyed their reputation and any goodwill they had during the ps4 days. People are sick of Playstation

Interesting video but they seemed very underwhelmed overall.

Wierd you didn't mention any of the issues they picked up on with PSSR or things like some of the games being 30fps etc

It's nice too see some of the die hards finally waking up to the things some of us have been saying for a few years now. This version of Playstation has been rubbish and Jim Ryan was a complete disaster.

I remember lots of here including staff saying how good Ryan was because the PS5 was selling, not understanding that it was selling because of the PS4 and nothing to do with Ryan. We had to put up with years of disingenuous positivity, now people are finally waking up, but it's too late.

It's amusing how the usual diehards are still trying to say this is a 60fps quality mode machine and defend it to the end of the earth, despite some of the trailers in the reveal show being in 30fps with drops. It's disingenuous.

Should have called it the PlayStation 5: Lead balloon edition.

Price is insane but its also crazy calling it a pro and not including a disc drive. It's inferior in some ways to a base model

At that price a PC is way more tempting

The biggest gaming industry failure ever. How many hundreds of millions wasted, they even purchased the whole studio. Hulst is in big trouble

I remember saying things like the live service push was a bad idea, Bungie was a bad purchase, psvr2 would fail, lack of showcases was because of a lack of games etc etc etc and some of the diehards on here called me a hater and got very upset.

Seems I was just paying attention and not hating.

How people did not see all this comming is mind-blowing to me.

None of this is the PlayStation we love

This has to now be the biggest gaming industry flop of all time surely. 8 years to peak at 600 players is beyond appalling. 10x less than Redfall.

I doubt this game even make back the money spent on employee lunches during development, nevermind anything else. Total disaster

No, they would abandon it and not support it like they always do with these things like the psp/psvr1 and 2 etc

Feel bit sorry for the dev team, this could genuinely be the biggest flop of all time after 8 years dev time.

@DonkeyFantasy sales down and thousands of job losses are not an indication the industry is fine

June video game hardware spending fell 37% when compared to a year ago, to $287M, and finished 1H 2024 31% lower vs.YA. During the first half of 2024 Switch hardware spending was 48% lower than YA, while PlayStation 5 declined by 28%, and Xbox Series fell 18%

Things are not looking good in the industy right now

I said it at the time but Deatiny is one of the worst examples of a live service title with their huge problems with sunsetting content etc.

How can you be stupid enough to create a "Live Service Center of Excellence" ran by one of the very worst and most scummy devs around. Literally the opposite of what a competent company would have done.

Ps5 has been discounted more often than not over the last 12months, and it's still not been enough to keep pace.

The whole industry is not in an amazing place right now

The main problem I see is that its just a $40 copy of a popular free to play game. Why would people bother when they can just play the original for free?

As a Geordie and huge Newcastle fan, screw Mike Ashley.

As a gaming fan it's sad to see brick and mortar game stores become extinct, just like Blockbuster.

This is what fans of their games have been saying forever. Every game is not designed for everyone, more casual gamers should just skip the game and play a game they will enjoy, there are plenty of them.

For alot of us the difficulty is the joy, and I grow tired of people trying to take that away just because they are not good enough and have to actually overcome something difficult

And this is exactly what I was talking about the other day with push framing and editing the news to fan the flames constantly, they can't help themselfs.

Stop using fanboy twitter accounts for your news articles

@trev666 got to agree and its why I practically stopped posting on here and on pure. They fan the flames constantly with baiting articles and then play dumb when you call them out on it. The way they frame and edit the news sometimes is crazy.

Like you say it gets very tiresome and leads to utter garbage in the comment sections. Garbage in, garbage out.

After last year's disaster, this somehow managed to be almost as bad. What is going on over there, this after almost 2 years of no shows at all, utterly bizarre

I said in March this was likely to happen due to the PS Exclusives under performing and big changes like going multiplatform would be required moving forward, but alot of people didnt believe me looking back at the comment replies. This exclusivity strategy for SE has been a disaster to be honest.

Always the staff that suffer from the miss management and poor commercial decisions.

In the words of Shawn Layden:

If you’re spending $250 million, you want to be able to sell [your game] to as many people as possible, even if it’s just 10 per cent more

@ChrisDeku because Sony already had a trust issue with PC gamers, so this was an idiotic move at best. And I'm not sure why you are replying to me about review scores and comparing them, I never mentioned them once?

I commented that Sony has killed their goodwill with a section of the pc gaming community, for absolutely no reason. They had a popular fully functioning game, it was all unnecessary.

Trust is a difficult thing to earn back for any company and its a really bad move when Sony has mentioned how they see PC and mobile as their chance for growth moving forward.

@ChrisDeku the bad reviews can be filtered yes, but the goodwill has gone and will be incredibly difficult to get back, if they can at all. Sony already had a trust issue with PC gamers even before all of this. After the PC/mobile market was given such importance for growth by their CEO, this is a bad situation and completely idiotic.

Can they recover? Sure. Will it be difficult? Sure. Was all of this totally unnecessary and a lesson in what not to do? 100%

Sony really kneecapped all their goodwill on PC and destroyed their entire growth strategy as outlined by their CEO.

Huge mistakes were made by Sony, and I feel sorry for Arrowhead who have been torn to shreds for a publishers boneheaded decision. The damage has already been done unfortunately

And this is why I don't buy Ubisoft games or support their games in any way, even playing them for free.

Terrible company that makes terrible games

Extra has been on a downward trend ever since the price hike. Its probably my fault for resubscribing to play Death Stranding, but Sony offered me 59% off a year sub.

For what it's worth I really enjoyed Death Stranding!