This being a "flop" is squarely down to Ubisoft, perhaps if they want their games to sell well, maybe don't release them in a broken mess in the first place. A groundbreaking idea!
But but I thought £80+ games were also "in line with current market conditions" aka also known multi-billionaire companies being caught out in a greedy lie, but also MS has to contend with barely anyone buying their games on XBOX anyway, so..
As has been proven multiple times over the past 2/3 years the best games of the year are often the ones at a £40 / 50 (sometimes less) price point, and shock horror they didn't need bloated budgets and 1000 people working on it at the same time.
People have less money, less time and we're all tired of being scammed out of our money for poor value and services and If they want £80 games to be the norm, then they better be damn sure they are releasing a complete game at launch and that isn't filled with pointless MTX's.
I would agree with this tbh, had great fun in the campagin and in the initial spurt of endgame until they dropped the "nerf everything fun" patch. They've been fighting an uphill battle ever since
Calling it now. Bungie will cease to exist as they are this time next year, the upcoming D2 stuff is looking like being a disaster as well, and Marathon needs to be put out of its misery before anymore money is wasted on it
Oof! Well at least Forspoken will have company in the janky rubbish pile. I wonder if the Devs will even attempt to fix / finish this game or just leave it in the digital dumper to rot away until it appears on PS+
Absoutely terrible, I get not every year can be full of bangers, but this just made me realise theres tooo many games being released and most of them are junk! Thank the gaming lords for Atomic Heart 2 and RE9
I binge watched all of season 2 yesterday, and I dont think its bad at all. It was always going to be impossible to translate Part 2 into a TV show in the way it deserves.
It was complicated and traumatising to play as a game and part of that was the actions it made you do (whether you wanted to or not) and you cant do that in a TV show.
All the actors are doing a great job with what they've been given and with the limited number of episodes per season, but that also restricts what they should be doing, like why bother even showing the SCARS at all when no time is given to properly intro them, unless thats more of a Season 3 thing.
Trying to play Tainted Grail, but its launched with so many bugs, screen tearing and crashing that its impossible to play.. so have ended up hooked on Palia for a bit of chill comfort gaming on a rainy day!
Time for Sony to step in and fully gut the poisonous leadership, its the only way for this company to survive. Lets face it, Marathon is going to bomb, not on a Concord level, but there is not a single path in front of them that will be the success they hope / need it to be.
Launching an underbaked PVP only extraction shooter, with lack of features that's available in every game of its type, the poorly received beta, the stolen art assets, this game is dead before its even begun. If they wanted to relaunch Marathon, a modern Boomer Shooter was right there in front of them, they could've plopped in a PVP mode as well.
Lets not talk about Destiny, im yet another BETAD1toD2 Veteran, The Final Shape was my send off, and thankfully it was fantastic. They shoulda kept D2 on life support for a couple years until a D3 was ready to go, launching a whole new era while stil in D2 is bonkers, it makes no sense, this was the perfect chance to change and start fresh, but Bungie Bungled that as well.
I wanted to buy it physical to sit alongside the previous 2, but after the nonsense of it just being a key to download, and costing £70, and it being available on Gamepass.. It was a def no thank you, now Im more than happy waiting for it to plummet in price.
Gonna have to hard disagree on this, when most games are releasing at that price are launched in a broken state, takes months of patching, then we have MXs and DLCs on top of all it.
Ive spent countless hours and had more fun in games like Balatro, Vampire Survivors, Stardew, No Mans Sky than any big AAA game this gen
Kinda glad the support is over, absolutely one the worst MK games so far, bounced after a couple weeks and never returned. MKX still remains the best of the new MKs.
One of the richest companies in the world.. needs to hike up their prices because? And im sure Sony will be running to be next in-line now this genie is out the box. All of it is beyond gross!
None of these Multi-Billion (some cases trillion) companies need to be hiking their prices. Thanks Nintendo, I guess!
@carlos82 This exactly how I felt! Loved 1 & 2, hated 3 and had very low expectations for 4, but theres been enough change to well.. everything! that im debating Day 1 for it.
If this is anything like BL3, then its a hard pass from me! Pretty much hate-played that game till the bitter end, and can we throw clap-trap in the trash heap!
If it wasnt for the fact that you have to pay to play online with your friends, I would have never subscribed to anything, now my Destiny 2 days are over with, and prices going up and up, im glad ive made the choice not to renew next week.
I'd rather put the money saved into buying actual games I want instead of paying for games im never gonna play
Already decided not to renew at end of this month, im expecting UK / EU to be next, all these price rises.. but my wage hasnt risen in years.. so im finally at the point where im priced out.
Looks cool, and If it was free to play / try I would have given it a bash, but pvp extraction games are not my thing, so I wont be paying & playing! Hope it does well for them with the target audience they're aiming for though!
*time to just insta ban people who use the term "the left" as some sort of insult. #fightbackagainsthate
The Art style is great, the music is great, the hints of story / lore behind it are great, but all of it seems wasted on just a pvp extraction shooter.
If they ever bring out anything PVE / Single player mode i'd be there.
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This being a "flop" is squarely down to Ubisoft, perhaps if they want their games to sell well, maybe don't release them in a broken mess in the first place. A groundbreaking idea!
Re: Xbox U-Turn the First Step Towards Gamers Rejecting $80 Games
But but I thought £80+ games were also "in line with current market conditions" aka also known multi-billionaire companies being caught out in a greedy lie, but also MS has to contend with barely anyone buying their games on XBOX anyway, so..
As has been proven multiple times over the past 2/3 years the best games of the year are often the ones at a £40 / 50 (sometimes less) price point, and shock horror they didn't need bloated budgets and 1000 people working on it at the same time.
People have less money, less time and we're all tired of being scammed out of our money for poor value and services and If they want £80 games to be the norm, then they better be damn sure they are releasing a complete game at launch and that isn't filled with pointless MTX's.
Re: New PS5 Beta Firmware Update Out 24th July, Includes Teased Controller Feature
So does this mean I can pair my dual sense to my laptop for use with Steam etc?
Re: Amazon Prime Day 2025 - Best Deals on PS5 Games, Controllers, SSDs, 4K TVs, and More
Snapped up the £39 quid for LTD Edition AC Shadows, pretty nice deal.
Re: PS5 Fans Divided Over Helldivers 2 on Xbox Pivot
Please stop giving these idiots a platform.
Re: BioWare Flop ANTHEM Dies January 2026, Servers to Be Turned Off
The OG Concord! Farewell thy Anthem! Shame they never got a chance to turn it around.
Re: Major Xbox Layoffs Underway, First Studios Notified
Microsoft are bad for the gaming community, full stop.
Feeling dreadful for everyone losing their job today through no fault of their own. Less said about Phil Spencer the better, what a rotter he is.
Re: PS6 to 'Push the Boundaries' of Graphics, Doubles Down on Machine Learning
Still waiting on those 8K Games that the base PS5 is capable of according to the sticker on the box...
Re: Some PS Plus Users Can't Download Diablo 4
I got this as well, but you can easily get around it, by selecting another version of the game from the drop-down menu. (did this in the app btw)
Re: Opinion: Diablo 4's Story Campaign Is Well Worth Playing on PS Plus
I would agree with this tbh, had great fun in the campagin and in the initial spurt of endgame until they dropped the "nerf everything fun" patch. They've been fighting an uphill battle ever since
Re: Bungie Delays Marathon Indefinitely, No New PS5, PC Release Date Given
Calling it now. Bungie will cease to exist as they are this time next year, the upcoming D2 stuff is looking like being a disaster as well, and Marathon needs to be put out of its misery before anymore money is wasted on it
Re: This Is How Gears of War Reloaded Looks and Plays on PS5 Pro
The screen shaking while running.. lmao
The extended scenes of them rolling about and hiding behind cover while nothing is there ? Unintentional comedy gold.
Re: MindsEye (PS5) - GTA Producer's Latest Is a Futuristic Faceplant
Oof! Well at least Forspoken will have company in the janky rubbish pile. I wonder if the Devs will even attempt to fix / finish this game or just leave it in the digital dumper to rot away until it appears on PS+
Re: 'Good Luck with That' - The Outer Worlds 2 $80 Price Has Gone Down Horribly with PS5 Players
Im NEVER paying £80 for any game. And I hope most people dont
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate Summer Game Fest 2025?
Absoutely terrible, I get not every year can be full of bangers, but this just made me realise theres tooo many games being released and most of them are junk! Thank the gaming lords for Atomic Heart 2 and RE9
Re: PlayStation Gets Guilty Gear Dev to Make Insane Marvel Fighting Game for PS5
I hate all Marvel stuff, but as a fan of fighting games, this actually looked amazing!
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate State of Play for June 2025?
Gave it a very good! Loads of stuff I wanted to play!
Re: The First of SEGA's Retro Revival Games Is Looking Sick as Hell
The way im more hyped for this than Death Stranding or Ghosts of Yotei lmao I'll be snapping up that physical edition
Re: Sony's Marketing the Massive Improvements PS5 Pro Makes to Forza Horizon 5
I miss Driveclub, Imagine what a proper PS5 version would have been like * sigh *
Re: New PS5 Games for June and July 2025
Im looking forward to The Alters next week and thats about it for the next few months for me
Re: PS Store Days of Play Sale Is Live Now with 1,300+ PS5, PS4 Game Discounts
Nothing of note at what I class as "Sale" price.. I mean 50.99 is NOT a sale price for a digital game and 28.99 to.26.99, what a discount..LOL
Re: TV Show Review: The Last Of Us (HBO) Season 2 Episode 7 - Great Game Makes for Okay TV
I binge watched all of season 2 yesterday, and I dont think its bad at all. It was always going to be impossible to translate Part 2 into a TV show in the way it deserves.
It was complicated and traumatising to play as a game and part of that was the actions it made you do (whether you wanted to or not) and you cant do that in a TV show.
All the actors are doing a great job with what they've been given and with the limited number of episodes per season, but that also restricts what they should be doing, like why bother even showing the SCARS at all when no time is given to properly intro them, unless thats more of a Season 3 thing.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 582
Trying to play Tainted Grail, but its launched with so many bugs, screen tearing and crashing that its impossible to play.. so have ended up hooked on Palia for a bit of chill comfort gaming on a rainy day!
Re: Starfield Should Still Come to PS5 in 2025, and It'll Be in Its Best Shape Yet
Play No Mans Sky instead.
Re: Bungie Leaders Reportedly Pitched Destiny 2 Subscription, But Got 'Vehemently' Shut Down
Time for Sony to step in and fully gut the poisonous leadership, its the only way for this company to survive. Lets face it, Marathon is going to bomb, not on a Concord level, but there is not a single path in front of them that will be the success they hope / need it to be.
Launching an underbaked PVP only extraction shooter, with lack of features that's available in every game of its type, the poorly received beta, the stolen art assets, this game is dead before its even begun. If they wanted to relaunch Marathon, a modern Boomer Shooter was right there in front of them, they could've plopped in a PVP mode as well.
Lets not talk about Destiny, im yet another BETAD1toD2 Veteran, The Final Shape was my send off, and thankfully it was fantastic. They shoulda kept D2 on life support for a couple years until a D3 was ready to go, launching a whole new era while stil in D2 is bonkers, it makes no sense, this was the perfect chance to change and start fresh, but Bungie Bungled that as well.
Re: Fans Discuss the Reason Behind DOOM: The Dark Ages' Lukewarm Opening
I wanted to buy it physical to sit alongside the previous 2, but after the nonsense of it just being a key to download, and costing £70, and it being available on Gamepass.. It was a def no thank you, now Im more than happy waiting for it to plummet in price.
Re: These 17+ New PS5, PS4 Games Are Coming Out Next Week (19th-25th May)
Is Tainted Grail a Souls-like? It looks pretty decent but I cannot be bothered with yet another Souls-Like combat game.
Re: Beloved Ex-PlayStation Boss Believes $70, $80 Games Are a Steal
Gonna have to hard disagree on this, when most games are releasing at that price are launched in a broken state, takes months of patching, then we have MXs and DLCs on top of all it.
Ive spent countless hours and had more fun in games like Balatro, Vampire Survivors, Stardew, No Mans Sky than any big AAA game this gen
Re: Mortal Kombat Fans Are Fuming MK1's Support Appears to Be Over
Kinda glad the support is over, absolutely one the worst MK games so far, bounced after a couple weeks and never returned. MKX still remains the best of the new MKs.
Re: Square Enix Demands Bigger Games, Faster Development as Sales Continue to Slump
More AI, More BIGGER games, the money men just dont get it do they, they are single-handedly ruining the industry.
Most people want just a good game, and it doesnt need to be 50+ hrs long to be that.
Re: These 16+ New PS5, PS4 Games Are Coming Out Next Week (12th-18th May)
The Precinct is the one for me this week! Hoping its as good as it looks, another one who pre-ordered that v nice physical edition above
Re: Neon Apex: Beyond the Limit Could Scratch Your WipEout Itch on PS5 Next Week
Hmmm could be good tbh! but all my attention will be on The Precinct next week
Re: Returnal's PS5 Pro Upgrade Overdelivers with Improved Image Quality, Performance
I'll die on this hill, but Returnal is still the best 1st Party game of this gen, for its creativity, visuals, gameplay.
Re: Plenty of People Are Playing Expedition 33 on PS5, Despite Having to Actually Buy It
It feels wrong to somehow play this game for "free" Its an incredible game and the devs deserve for people to actually buy it
Re: Opinion: If You're on the Fence, Consider Buying a PS5 Now Before the Prices Inevitably Rise
Since most games are STILL cross gen, Buy a PS4 Pro instead (Or a PC) Better value for money
Re: Xbox Now Selling PS5 Games for $80, Joins Switch 2 in Price Increase
One of the richest companies in the world.. needs to hike up their prices because? And im sure Sony will be running to be next in-line now this genie is out the box. All of it is beyond gross!
None of these Multi-Billion (some cases trillion) companies need to be hiking their prices. Thanks Nintendo, I guess!
Re: Sony's New State of Play Proves the Value of Deep Dives, Trends on YouTube
@carlos82 This exactly how I felt! Loved 1 & 2, hated 3 and had very low expectations for 4, but theres been enough change to well.. everything! that im debating Day 1 for it.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2025 Announced
Damn... Balatro gonna be creating a whole bunch of new addicts... I mean new players next week
Re: State of Play Set for Wednesday, 20 Minutes of Borderlands 4 Gameplay
If this is anything like BL3, then its a hard pass from me!
Pretty much hate-played that game till the bitter end, and can we throw clap-trap in the trash heap!
Re: PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Are Not the Future of Gaming, Says US Analyst
If it wasnt for the fact that you have to pay to play online with your friends, I would have never subscribed to anything, now my Destiny 2 days are over with, and prices going up and up, im glad ive made the choice not to renew next week.
I'd rather put the money saved into buying actual games I want instead of paying for games im never gonna play
Re: PS Plus Price Increase Hits Another Country, Canada Forced to Pay More
Already decided not to renew at end of this month, im expecting UK / EU to be next, all these price rises.. but my wage hasnt risen in years.. so im finally at the point where im priced out.
Re: Marathon Maker Thinks Players Are Too Toxic for Proximity Chat in New PS5 Game
@LifeGirl or maybe people could just not be... you know *hit to each other, just a thought.
Re: Poll: Are You Planning to Buy Bungie's Marathon?
Looks cool, and If it was free to play / try I would have given it a bash, but pvp extraction games are not my thing, so I wont be paying & playing! Hope it does well for them with the target audience they're aiming for though!
*time to just insta ban people who use the term "the left" as some sort of insult. #fightbackagainsthate
Re: Bungie's New PS5 Shooter Marathon Grabs September Release Date
The Art style is great, the music is great, the hints of story / lore behind it are great, but all of it seems wasted on just a pvp extraction shooter.
If they ever bring out anything PVE / Single player mode i'd be there.
Re: RUINER Dev Hands Its New PS5 Game Metal Eden a Demo, Out Now
Ruiner was surprisingly awesome, checked out the Demo for this and yeh this super clunky and just not fun to play
Re: Round Up: The Last of Us 2's TV Show Reviews Aren't Quite a Hole in One for Sony, HBO
CLOSE THE COMMENTS
Re: PlayStation Is Dying to Know What You Think of Nintendo Switch 2 in Player Survey
An Overpriced PS4 Pro is what it is
Re: Bungie Will Reveal Its Next PS5 Game Marathon on 12th April
Im unlikely to ever play an extraction shooter, but I hope Bungie gets it right with this, we dont need more v expensive flop games to add to the pile
Re: Sniper Elite Dev Rebellion Records Its Biggest Launch Yet with Atomfall
Been absolutely hooked on it all weekend!
Re: Multiple Big Publishers Willing to Delay Their PS5 Games to Avoid GTA 6
And heres me, one of the 13 people who have never played a single second of a GTA game, and the trailer for 6 will keep that streak going