@LogicStrikesAgain @colt45z Their announcement already said retailers will sell keys. Shopto already sell discounted credit, so I expect them to do the same with game keys. (Not that this makes much sense with catalog titles given PSN sales)
@dskatter I think its less that it didn't go well, and more that it was never anything more than a niche and no one pretended otherwise. Some weren't sold on the open market but only direct.
The Famicom/Super Famicom TV's by Sharp. Primarily made for hotels and only because Sharp and Nintendo had a console licensing agreement because Sharp were a major Nintendo supplier and manufacturing partner since the original Game & Watch's.
PS2 and PS3 near end of life variants from Sony because they could use existing panels they had and put the consoles in the stands. And only in certain markets. The PS2 model was only in Europe but seemingly not anywhere else (lots of claims it was Uk only, but certainly there were units in Europe). Nine years after the PS2 launched. the PS3 3D Tv seemed to have a wider distribution but was still pretty niche and the system was 6 years old at the time.
@Mjoen Putting modern consoles in a TV is a crazy idea. No one wants a thicker TV, there are power and heat dispersal issues and you do not want a fan in your TV. Maybe you could with a Switch 2, but not Xbox or Playstation.
and Sony just sold control of their TV division anyway.
Every game gets a 2-hour Game Trial, so you can try before you buy.
The problem with this is that might work for a lot of games but a lot of other games can be finished in that time. Forcing every game to have a mandatory trial causes as many issues as it solves.
I wouldn't get too excited, this is bound to have all sorts of caveats and be for a limited time depending on the age of the title.
Want 200,000 copies in one region of a game released 3 months before the end of regular production? Absolutely. Want 50k discs for a year old indie title, maybe not. Although I doubt that's a regular occurrence anyway. Either way you will probably have to wait longer.
This makes no difference to the chance of Sony reversing course, they clearly have planned for all of this, the pressing plants will wind down gradually and either operate at a reduced rate with less machines or the reduced production will move to other facilities until whatever day they decide to turn that off completely.
@8th_Observer @get2sammyb I have both but if I'm forced to buy digitally and have no choice, I might as well save the money for a likely very expensive console and get the games on pc. Modern development times and cross platform publishing attitudes mean a couple of exclusives a year isn't enough.
I’d wager if you look at the digital vs physical sales of INDIVIDUAL GAMES available both physically and digitally, the numbers even out considerably.
They do, but only during the release window. Over time it shifts substantially for the same title once psn sales and gradual reduction in normal prices start. At some point a lot of third party games are just cheaper and easier to buy on PSN.
@NerdyPaul Sales of new release games average pretty much 50/50 on major new releases based on what we know. Some are higher towards physical, others are lower. It's digital only, catalog and sales titles that really push the needle to the ratios Sony declare in their financials.
I'm out. I'm not buying a PS6 at a likely high price to be tied to high digital prices with no resale. If I want to do that I'll just use my PC. if I have to go without exclusives then so be it.
In the old days like most of the PS4 era when Sony actually had good discounts for their own games then it was easy to wait a few months as the discounts also came quicker.
Sony are cutting off their nose to spite their own face here.
@AdamNovice I have a long enough memory to remember Psygnosis knocking out PC ports of all their games (D'Derby, Wipeout, G-Police etc) even after Sony bought them.
@StrickenBiged Except the Halo social account have already confirmed this is a mistake and doesn’t need Plus for local play. Just a basic PSN account which is a system limitation like with any other game.
I think Premium extensions every Black Friday bought with credit from shopto is cheaper than the standard sub so I just do that.At the very least I am happy enough with the value proposition. I don’t buy many games these days because I don’t need to.
I don’t play online (if I use my ps5 copy of FFXIV instead of my pc one it’s exempt from Plus requirements) so it’s for the games and saves backups for me.
I do think that the save backups should just be free for everyone but I can also see why Sony aren’t going to do that. I also think paying for ps5 game streaming when you may never use it isn’t a great look, but I think the same about Amazon not doing a Prime sub without videos and music so again I don’t expect any change.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner There is a "jumbo edition" digital upgrade bundle for base owners , as well as a Hospital/Campus bundle but this is the first time the game has been ps5 native
@rat-paradise not to disparage those impressive efforts but brute force emulation, which isn’t accurate enough and the high threshold for accuracy an official solution would require are very different things.
The Xbox solution is very impressive but it was a simpler problem more easily solved by just throwing an entire department at it. The ps3 problem is a much bigger task to do, especially if you want it to work for a bulk of the library and well enough to be an official solution.
What works as a community project with caveats and compatibility lists won’t work for a console
@rat-paradise The technical reason is that those supported games(, it’s not all games) have been recompiled into Xbox one versions. They aren’t actually 360 games in that technical sense as they have had resolution and frame rate increases too and you can’t play them from disc despite omadeli’s suggestion - they are key discs only.
Doing the same on ps3 isn’t practical as anything using the Cell SPU’s properly would be very time consuming and difficult to translate. You have to do a proper port. The main cores of the 360 and ps3 are actually closer than most people think (powerpc) , it’s the extra bits on the Cell chip that are the issue.
They developed proprietary motion capture for Hellblade which could help with PS Studios titles.
Sony already operate a substantial performance capture and animation studio at Santa Monica. They even rent it to third parties (RE:Village was performed there) I'm not sure a secondary facility in Cambridge is necessary,
It’s the GTA6 stand in game, incase it gets delayed again.
This has to be a joke, because I'm not sure why else you would say something that implies Sony are going to launch Wolverine in Sept and then Laufrey by the end of the year if GTA slips.
If anything they aren't commiting to a date in case GTA slips to a date near the one they are eyeballing like when Gureilla announced the HFW date and Elden Ring was then moved to be quite close.
@NerdyPaul I’m not sure studio announcing they are working on sequel to their last two games really makes for market manipulation. I think it would have been assumed they were working on it already.
No one is going to pay more for the studio because they are making a new Senua game. It might attract new interest in the studio if they have a game in heavy development but it’s not going to lead to a bidding war. Especially if the studio is considering a management buyout.
@NerdyPaul not sure why you used quotes, Stephen Totilo who makes the claims is an actual game journalist with two decades of experience in the industry.
@Schonks like it or not but game industry rumours from good sources have a very high hit rate for being true or at least having a semblance of truth about them where the reality is somewhere in the middle.
Well I’ve some bad news for you. Valve isn’t exactly the bastion of ethics and values. Gabe still has one of the biggest yachts in the harbour
Of course he does, Valve is a private company, Gabe owns 50.1% of the company. It also means they have no shareholders and aren't driven by the "line must go up" demands of them that Microsoft and to a lesser degree Sony are driven by.
However this means that the rest of the company is owned by employees. What was that about ethics and values?
Allowing a developer to announce a game on your own event and then telling them they are being closed a week later is just gross incompetence. Regardless of anything else going on or why Microsoft may wish to close the studio it’s just more evidence that the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing.
FF16 is basically FF in name only with iconic visual and naming elements from the series as window dressing
Many concepts in 16 are repurposed from, based on or influenced by 14. The whole people as summons concept originated in 14 (same writer wrote those bits) for example.
I don’t think I did any of the side quests (if I did they didn’t seem like SQ’s) and that was just a natural process and not from any advice.
It’s weird. I like the game yet I can see why people might be put off by it. But also as a 14 player some of my time was spent noting all the elements cribbed from 14, given it was written by the same writer who wrote ARR and Heavensward
Ralph Ineson does a good job as CID but it’s also impossible to not instantly be reminded of all his advertising voice overs given his extremely distinctive voice.
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Re: After 15 Years, inFAMOUS 2's Online Features Are Coming to an End
Surprised it lasted that long
Re: 'No Disc, No Buy': Even Metal Gear Solid's Snake Is Mad at Sony's Physical Games Decision
@LogicStrikesAgain @colt45z Their announcement already said retailers will sell keys. Shopto already sell discounted credit, so I expect them to do the same with game keys. (Not that this makes much sense with catalog titles given PSN sales)
Re: 'No Disc, No Buy': Even Metal Gear Solid's Snake Is Mad at Sony's Physical Games Decision
@chatbot Note: This trick was actually used first on Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake.
Re: 'No Disc, No Buy': Even Metal Gear Solid's Snake Is Mad at Sony's Physical Games Decision
@Zuljaras I didn't realise Olivia Newton John was a Holodeck program.
Re: Assassin's Creed: Black Flag Resynced (PS5) - Swashbuckling Classic Restored with Love and Respect
🎶 A pirate I was meant to be, trim the sails and roam the sea! 🎶
Re: Sony Will Have Capacity to Continue Manufacturing Some Game Discs Beyond 2028 Cut-Off Date
@PuppetMaster I mean PS5 sales in Japan aren't exactly amazing, but you are right this would seem contrary to recent moves for Japan.
Re: Sony Will Have Capacity to Continue Manufacturing Some Game Discs Beyond 2028 Cut-Off Date
@dskatter I think its less that it didn't go well, and more that it was never anything more than a niche and no one pretended otherwise. Some weren't sold on the open market but only direct.
The Famicom/Super Famicom TV's by Sharp. Primarily made for hotels and only because Sharp and Nintendo had a console licensing agreement because Sharp were a major Nintendo supplier and manufacturing partner since the original Game & Watch's.
PS2 and PS3 near end of life variants from Sony because they could use existing panels they had and put the consoles in the stands. And only in certain markets. The PS2 model was only in Europe but seemingly not anywhere else (lots of claims it was Uk only, but certainly there were units in Europe). Nine years after the PS2 launched. the PS3 3D Tv seemed to have a wider distribution but was still pretty niche and the system was 6 years old at the time.
I can't think of any others?
Re: Sony Will Have Capacity to Continue Manufacturing Some Game Discs Beyond 2028 Cut-Off Date
@Mjoen Putting modern consoles in a TV is a crazy idea. No one wants a thicker TV, there are power and heat dispersal issues and you do not want a fan in your TV. Maybe you could with a Switch 2, but not Xbox or Playstation.
and Sony just sold control of their TV division anyway.
Re: Sony Will Have Capacity to Continue Manufacturing Some Game Discs Beyond 2028 Cut-Off Date
@PlayNation5
The problem with this is that might work for a lot of games but a lot of other games can be finished in that time. Forcing every game to have a mandatory trial causes as many issues as it solves.
Re: Sony Will Have Capacity to Continue Manufacturing Some Game Discs Beyond 2028 Cut-Off Date
I wouldn't get too excited, this is bound to have all sorts of caveats and be for a limited time depending on the age of the title.
Want 200,000 copies in one region of a game released 3 months before the end of regular production? Absolutely. Want 50k discs for a year old indie title, maybe not. Although I doubt that's a regular occurrence anyway. Either way you will probably have to wait longer.
This makes no difference to the chance of Sony reversing course, they clearly have planned for all of this, the pressing plants will wind down gradually and either operate at a reduced rate with less machines or the reduced production will move to other facilities until whatever day they decide to turn that off completely.
Re: Could Final Fantasy 7 Revelation Get as Many as 9 DLC Packs?
@ThePlaystationStan afaik the arrangement was made per game as they were developed not for the whole trilogy at once.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Burned Through the Last Remaining Goodwill of Its Fans
@8th_Observer I mean the lack of third party exclusives, because most games are multi platform these days, even if it takes a few months.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Burned Through the Last Remaining Goodwill of Its Fans
@8th_Observer @get2sammyb I have both but if I'm forced to buy digitally and have no choice, I might as well save the money for a likely very expensive console and get the games on pc. Modern development times and cross platform publishing attitudes mean a couple of exclusives a year isn't enough.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Burned Through the Last Remaining Goodwill of Its Fans
@dskatter
They do, but only during the release window. Over time it shifts substantially for the same title once psn sales and gradual reduction in normal prices start. At some point a lot of third party games are just cheaper and easier to buy on PSN.
Re: PS3, PS Vita Digital Stores to Close Starting Later This Year
@tangyzesty and they had a reminder 5 years ago.
Re: PS3, PS Vita Digital Stores to Close Starting Later This Year
This isn't great news but I get it. It was always going to happen and it's hard to justify another extension.
Luckily both machines are easily hacked and Sony stopped caring what you did with either of them a few years ago. Take advantage of that.
Re: PlayStation Consoles to Stop Getting Disc-Based Physical Releases in 2028
@NerdyPaul Sales of new release games average pretty much 50/50 on major new releases based on what we know. Some are higher towards physical, others are lower. It's digital only, catalog and sales titles that really push the needle to the ratios Sony declare in their financials.
Re: PlayStation Consoles to Stop Getting Disc-Based Physical Releases in 2028
I'm out. I'm not buying a PS6 at a likely high price to be tied to high digital prices with no resale. If I want to do that I'll just use my PC. if I have to go without exclusives then so be it.
In the old days like most of the PS4 era when Sony actually had good discounts for their own games then it was easy to wait a few months as the discounts also came quicker.
Sony are cutting off their nose to spite their own face here.
Re: Layoffs at IO Interactive as Project Fantasy Ends 'Relationship with External Partner'
@wildcat_kickz IOI are unlikely to let anyone buy them, their independence has let them flourish
Re: Layoffs at IO Interactive as Project Fantasy Ends 'Relationship with External Partner'
@wildcat_kickz calling Ronin one of Sonys best games of the gen is an absolutely wild take that I assume is a joke
Re: 'I Don't Know What They're Thinking': Ex-PlayStation Boss Weighs in on Sony's PC Port Backtracking
@AdamNovice I have a long enough memory to remember Psygnosis knocking out PC ports of all their games (D'Derby, Wipeout, G-Police etc) even after Sony bought them.
Re: Any Die-Hard PlayStation Fan Will Want This Neat PS1 Diorama
No, I'm good thanks. I don't think it looks that great. Ashens showed the Mega Drive ones and I don't think much of them either.
Re: Fist of the North Star's Kenshiro Is a Fatal Fury Character Right Now
Re: Random: Deadpool Pulls the Most Insane PlayStation Reference in New PS5 Fighter
@SeanOhOgain Polygon man is in Astro Bot as Forgotten Mascot.
Re: PS5 Pre-Orders of GTA 6 Apparently Outpacing Xbox by 6:1
Even if I hadn't see n this article I would have already assumed this would be the case.
Re: Onimusha: Way of the Sword's September Release Date Hasn't Changed, Despite Rumours
@tameshiyaku You know it’ll probably be censored even on the Z version right?
Re: Onimusha: Way of the Sword's September Release Date Hasn't Changed, Despite Rumours
@Yor-sama The yen is toilet right now , a lot of this is the exchange rate.
Re: Bungie Confirms Studio Layoffs After Destiny 2 Content Ends
Not a surprise and can be traced back to Sony allowing Bungie to continue to run itself for a while.
Re: GTA 6 Physical Edition Doesn't Come with Discs, It's a Code in the Box
What a crock of *****
Re: Opinion: The PS6 Cannot Come Out in This Era of $1,000+ Consoles
You know there is no evidence of Miyamoto ever making that delay quote right?
Re: Uproar as Halo PS5 Demands 2 PS Plus Subscriptions for Local Co-Op
@StrickenBiged Except the Halo social account have already confirmed this is a mistake and doesn’t need Plus for local play. Just a basic PSN account which is a system limitation like with any other game.
Re: Sony Aims to Drive PS Plus Profits by 'Improving Service Proposition'
I think Premium extensions every Black Friday bought with credit from shopto is cheaper than the standard sub so I just do that.At the very least I am happy enough with the value proposition. I don’t buy many games these days because I don’t need to.
I don’t play online (if I use my ps5 copy of FFXIV instead of my pc one it’s exempt from Plus requirements) so it’s for the games and saves backups for me.
I do think that the save backups should just be free for everyone but I can also see why Sony aren’t going to do that. I also think paying for ps5 game streaming when you may never use it isn’t a great look, but I think the same about Amazon not doing a Prime sub without videos and music so again I don’t expect any change.
Re: Two Point Hospital: Full Health Collection Bundles Everything Together on PS5 'Soon'
@PsBoxSwitchOwner There is a "jumbo edition" digital upgrade bundle for base owners , as well as a Hospital/Campus bundle but this is the first time the game has been ps5 native
Re: These 13 Retro Games Are All Getting Revived for the PS5
@zidane4028 Fellow niche dead IP dredger Piko Interactive own the Bleem trademarks as of a few years ago and often partner with QUByte.
Bleem is just another dead brand resurrected for name recognition only rather than any specific values or lineage.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 1 and 2 PS5 Ports Now Official, Launching in July
@rat-paradise not to disparage those impressive efforts but brute force emulation, which isn’t accurate enough and the high threshold for accuracy an official solution would require are very different things.
The Xbox solution is very impressive but it was a simpler problem more easily solved by just throwing an entire department at it. The ps3 problem is a much bigger task to do, especially if you want it to work for a bulk of the library and well enough to be an official solution.
What works as a community project with caveats and compatibility lists won’t work for a console
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 1 and 2 PS5 Ports Now Official, Launching in July
@rat-paradise The technical reason is that those supported games(, it’s not all games) have been recompiled into Xbox one versions. They aren’t actually 360 games in that technical sense as they have had resolution and frame rate increases too and you can’t play them from disc despite omadeli’s suggestion - they are key discs only.
Doing the same on ps3 isn’t practical as anything using the Cell SPU’s properly would be very time consuming and difficult to translate. You have to do a proper port. The main cores of the 360 and ps3 are actually closer than most people think (powerpc) , it’s the extra bits on the Cell chip that are the issue.
Re: New Senua Game Reveal Used as a Way to Sell Ninja Theory to Suitors
@8th_Observer
Sony already operate a substantial performance capture and animation studio at Santa Monica. They even rent it to third parties (RE:Village was performed there) I'm not sure a secondary facility in Cambridge is necessary,
Re: Sony Reiterates God of War Laufey Is 'Coming Soon' to PS5
@AI-Generation
This has to be a joke, because I'm not sure why else you would say something that implies Sony are going to launch Wolverine in Sept and then Laufrey by the end of the year if GTA slips.
If anything they aren't commiting to a date in case GTA slips to a date near the one they are eyeballing like when Gureilla announced the HFW date and Elden Ring was then moved to be quite close.
Re: New Senua Game Reveal Used as a Way to Sell Ninja Theory to Suitors
@NerdyPaul I’m not sure studio announcing they are working on sequel to their last two games really makes for market manipulation. I think it would have been assumed they were working on it already.
No one is going to pay more for the studio because they are making a new Senua game. It might attract new interest in the studio if they have a game in heavy development but it’s not going to lead to a bidding war. Especially if the studio is considering a management buyout.
Re: New Senua Game Reveal Used as a Way to Sell Ninja Theory to Suitors
@NerdyPaul not sure why you used quotes, Stephen Totilo who makes the claims is an actual game journalist with two decades of experience in the industry.
Re: New Senua Game Reveal Used as a Way to Sell Ninja Theory to Suitors
@Schonks like it or not but game industry rumours from good sources have a very high hit rate for being true or at least having a semblance of truth about them where the reality is somewhere in the middle.
Totilo is a decent source
Re: Halo: Campaign Evolved Goes All-In on PS5 Pro Support as Xbox Bets Big on Rival Console
@JazzieJeff1975 the original game did not have online play. Only lan and local split screen.
Re: Halo: Campaign Evolved Goes All-In on PS5 Pro Support as Xbox Bets Big on Rival Console
@Areus indeed it had lan play but not online. However you could use Xlink Kai to play it online as I did with some people I knew.
Re: Several Xbox Studios at Risk of Closure, in Talks to Become Independent
@Vertere
Of course he does, Valve is a private company, Gabe owns 50.1% of the company. It also means they have no shareholders and aren't driven by the "line must go up" demands of them that Microsoft and to a lesser degree Sony are driven by.
However this means that the rest of the company is owned by employees. What was that about ethics and values?
Re: Hellblade Studio Hunting for Buyer, Days After Announcing New Game for PS5
@UltimateOtaku91
A reminder that Nadella was previously convinced by Spencer to keep the division open. This wouldn't be the first time they considered sacking it off.
Re: Hellblade Studio Hunting for Buyer, Days After Announcing New Game for PS5
Allowing a developer to announce a game on your own event and then telling them they are being closed a week later is just gross incompetence. Regardless of anything else going on or why Microsoft may wish to close the studio it’s just more evidence that the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing.
Re: Opinion: PS Plus Users, You Should Play Final Fantasy 16 (But Only If You Play It Like This)
@kcarnes9051
Many concepts in 16 are repurposed from, based on or influenced by 14. The whole people as summons concept originated in 14 (same writer wrote those bits) for example.
Yes, it still counts.
Re: Opinion: PS Plus Users, You Should Play Final Fantasy 16 (But Only If You Play It Like This)
@Sweetz any story choice now is a trope in all media now because everything has been done to death already.
Re: Opinion: PS Plus Users, You Should Play Final Fantasy 16 (But Only If You Play It Like This)
I don’t think I did any of the side quests (if I did they didn’t seem like SQ’s) and that was just a natural process and not from any advice.
It’s weird. I like the game yet I can see why people might be put off by it. But also as a 14 player some of my time was spent noting all the elements cribbed from 14, given it was written by the same writer who wrote ARR and Heavensward
Ralph Ineson does a good job as CID but it’s also impossible to not instantly be reminded of all his advertising voice overs given his extremely distinctive voice.
Re: Turn-Based RPG Final Fantasy Resonance Is Not a Port or Remake of Shuttered Gacha Game
@Voltan new Hildy quests were released in March, with more coming in September.