If a character's design should have no bearing on our opinion of a game's quality and whether we should play it then why do so many people demand diversity in their protagonist?
It should make no difference to them, correct?
In fact I have seen articles that review games on other sites and they subtract points for "lack of diverse characters."
There will ALWAYS be someone out there that is not satisfied with something.
What matters is in the aggregate and putting things in perspective.
Online media loves to amplify the far and few between weirdos that send death threats or make inflammatory remarks because it's good for clicks which means it's good for business.
People who you probably dislike very much (like certain politicians) also get death threats. That's doesn't mean they are the majority or that you condone them just because you are on the same side policy wise.
Same goes for gaming. This article didn't even need to exist; it was based on a false premise. The comments were never on to begin with.
I am not sure if the article writer knew this, but the comments were never turned on to begin with on the Naughty Dog upload as other commenters have mentioned.
Only the Playstation upload had comments turned on.
As for the trailer and what I think, I think the game character design is ugly and has an attitude problem. I see zero appeal for me.
That's my personal opinion that I think we're all entitled to.
The aesthetic doesn't look that good either to me, and I liked both parts of The Last Of Us, so this isn't just a random Naughty Dog dunk.
It looks a bit too stylized? I'm not sure if that's the correct term. I liked No Man's Sky but that game had the same type of stylized look that I see in this trailer and I wasn't a big fan of it in that game either.
An easy reference for what I'm referring to is looking at the ship. It just looks too shiny and smooth.
This is why I said what i said in the beginning of this post thread. I have never seen overt political content in my feed. I just look for science stuff, games, and music 90% of the time and therefore that's what I see.
Both my grandfathers literally fought against ACTUAL Nazis in WW2 but if you read up a few posts some people are calling others Nazis just for not perfectly fitting in to their carefully tailored beliefs.
Hyperbole is such a tired, overused tactic.
Go to Bluesky if you like it more, that's fine. And a smart company joins every platform so I'm not shocked that Sony made an account.
I don't follow that stuff. I'm actually a conservative (how dare I haha) but I don't engage or participate in any of the online nonsense back and forth. I don't even post on Twitter or any social media, I just read.
(Btw I don't consider posting here social media.)
I actually listen to a lot of and like Cenk Uygur, I know contradictory, but people don't fit neatly in the boxes society likes to create.
Regarding bots, when a platform reaches critical mass, bots are inevitable. If Blue Sky ever gets big they'll be flooded with annoying crap too.
I see no difference in Twitter between now and years ago. Are you just hearing others talk about Twitter "being different" and just parroting it without directly experiencing it? Because that does happen a lot.
Maybe your feed is the problem? My feed is just games, science stuff and music.
I used to despise first person and I was a third person purist until one of my favorite series (Resident Evil) went first person. It forced me to give it a try and I wound up really enjoying it.
I think if it's done well then first person is fine.
PS5 Pro is most definitely a luxury item, my god people.
If a millionaire buys a Porsche, does that not still make it objectively a luxury item for them? The income of the person doesn't matter with regards to the categorization of the product.
While the PS5 Pro is a good deal for what you get, it's still a luxury item.
The same way getting a yacht for 500k instead of the regular million is a good deal yes, but still a luxury item.
If the PS5 Pro is being sold at a very large profit, I can imagine how large those profit margins must be on individual PC components, because there's no chance in hell you'd be able to build a system like a PS5 Pro (don't forget controller) for anywhere near that
Lol haha exactly. I didn't know the PS5 hardware was such a bottleneck in achieving their "true vision," it must be so hard as a developer to design a game on such horrible hardware :eyeroll:
It looks the PS5 disk version sold at a loss a bit longer than the PS4 according to the article, so there's no difference there at least from the previous generation.
Probably the disk version made it to profitability faster than the digital version because the disk drive is like 20 bucks and they sell it for 100 dollars more.
And that's at 499, I bet the current 449 is now cutting it real close. Digital at 349 is a steal man, come on. Just the very high quality controller included in the system third party would be 100+ dollars.
You're looking at a PS5 digital system that costs 249 (sans controller.) For those graphics? Incredible deal.
I'll agree with you that not having disk available opens up doors in the future of the likes you mentioned, like games vanishing.
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Re: Stellar Blade Dev Says It Hopes Everyone Is 'Living in Love' After Naughty Dog Artist's Interpretation of Eve Is Unfairly Criticised
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Re: Stellar Blade Dev Says It Hopes Everyone Is 'Living in Love' After Naughty Dog Artist's Interpretation of Eve Is Unfairly Criticised
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Re: Stellar Blade Dev Says It Hopes Everyone Is 'Living in Love' After Naughty Dog Artist's Interpretation of Eve Is Unfairly Criticised
@AlexPorto
There is no controversy.
Someone made a drawing, people gave their opinion, some people didn't like it much, the end.
Articles like this one making a mountain out of a molehill are trying to sell this as a controversy because it's good for business. Money baby.
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Says It Hopes Everyone Is 'Living in Love' After Naughty Dog Artist's Interpretation of Eve Is Unfairly Criticised
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Re: Splash Water on Your Favourite Waifus in the New Dead or Alive Game for PS5, PS4
@MrPeanutbutterz
Oh please.
"This is why I am reluctant to tell people to watch movies." Since there are tons of pornographic videos.
"This is why I am reluctant to tell people to listen to music." Since there are tons of songs with truly awful and disgusting lyrics.
Your take makes no sense.
If it wasn't for Pushsquare I wouldn't even know this game existed. it is not even CLOSE to being representative of the gaming selection out there.
Re: Mariah Carey Is Currently Defrosting in Fortnite on PS5, PS4
She looks too good to be in a video game.
Re: Intergalactic PS5's Toxic Detractors Peddling Patently Fake 'Leaked' Story Details
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Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@RoomWithaMoose
I'm talking strictly about the character's face.
But I guess we can agree to disagree.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
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Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@waynesworld
My favorite part of that game was playing as Abby, thank goodness they did that otherwise I would have thought less of the game.
She was my favorite character from the original and sequel, her revenge and actions all make perfect sense story wise.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
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Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@tameshiyaku
You're going to criticize and judge what people are or aren't attracted to or find beautiful?
This is such an odd take.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@RoomWithaMoose
If a character's design should have no bearing on our opinion of a game's quality and whether we should play it then why do so many people demand diversity in their protagonist?
It should make no difference to them, correct?
In fact I have seen articles that review games on other sites and they subtract points for "lack of diverse characters."
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@DennisReynolds
There will ALWAYS be someone out there that is not satisfied with something.
What matters is in the aggregate and putting things in perspective.
Online media loves to amplify the far and few between weirdos that send death threats or make inflammatory remarks because it's good for clicks which means it's good for business.
People who you probably dislike very much (like certain politicians) also get death threats. That's doesn't mean they are the majority or that you condone them just because you are on the same side policy wise.
Same goes for gaming. This article didn't even need to exist; it was based on a false premise. The comments were never on to begin with.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
I am not sure if the article writer knew this, but the comments were never turned on to begin with on the Naughty Dog upload as other commenters have mentioned.
Only the Playstation upload had comments turned on.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@DennisReynolds
Your first statement about any female lead not being liked unless she looks like Eve is simply not true and is hyperbole.
Is there any evidence to back this up or are you saying things like that just for dramatic effect?
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
A lot of people have a simplistic view on things, things are always more complex than people want them to be.
There is a vast ocean of characters between Stellar Blade characters and the character from this trailer. Most of us are somewhere in the middle.
The people who designed the characters in Stellar Blade had just as much of an agenda as the designers of the character from the Naughty Dog trailer.
Re: Naughty Dog's New PS5 Game Is Finally Announced, Sci-Fi Action Title Intergalactic
As for the trailer and what I think, I think the game character design is ugly and has an attitude problem. I see zero appeal for me.
That's my personal opinion that I think we're all entitled to.
The aesthetic doesn't look that good either to me, and I liked both parts of The Last Of Us, so this isn't just a random Naughty Dog dunk.
It looks a bit too stylized? I'm not sure if that's the correct term. I liked No Man's Sky but that game had the same type of stylized look that I see in this trailer and I wasn't a big fan of it in that game either.
An easy reference for what I'm referring to is looking at the ship. It just looks too shiny and smooth.
Re: Naughty Dog's New PS5 Game Is Finally Announced, Sci-Fi Action Title Intergalactic
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Re: Naughty Dog's New PS5 Game Is Finally Announced, Sci-Fi Action Title Intergalactic
Naughty Dog still knows how to make masculine chad characters at least.
I want to play as Colin Graves, the character on the protagonist's screen in the ship.
That guy looks like a badass.
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@ChimpMasta
This is why I said what i said in the beginning of this post thread. I have never seen overt political content in my feed. I just look for science stuff, games, and music 90% of the time and therefore that's what I see.
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
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Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
Both my grandfathers literally fought against ACTUAL Nazis in WW2 but if you read up a few posts some people are calling others Nazis just for not perfectly fitting in to their carefully tailored beliefs.
Hyperbole is such a tired, overused tactic.
Go to Bluesky if you like it more, that's fine. And a smart company joins every platform so I'm not shocked that Sony made an account.
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@get2sammyb
Bluesky at the end of the day is another platform trying to make money.
These platforms don't just sprout up out of the goodness of the creators' hearts, they think there is a market/opportunity to exploit.
I am confused as to why certain people assign benevolence to what is in essence a business because they don't like the competition's owner's politics.
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
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Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@PapaGlitch
Yes, you don't want people to engage and talk to each other, that's an awful idea!
Conversation and arguments/counterarguments are bad!
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@Major_Player
I don't follow that stuff. I'm actually a conservative (how dare I haha) but I don't engage or participate in any of the online nonsense back and forth. I don't even post on Twitter or any social media, I just read.
(Btw I don't consider posting here social media.)
I actually listen to a lot of and like Cenk Uygur, I know contradictory, but people don't fit neatly in the boxes society likes to create.
Regarding bots, when a platform reaches critical mass, bots are inevitable. If Blue Sky ever gets big they'll be flooded with annoying crap too.
Re: PlayStation Joins Social Media Shift as Bluesky Rockets in Popularity
@Neither_scene
I see no difference in Twitter between now and years ago. Are you just hearing others talk about Twitter "being different" and just parroting it without directly experiencing it? Because that does happen a lot.
Maybe your feed is the problem? My feed is just games, science stuff and music.
Re: Indiana Jones PS5's Launch Trailer Will Make the Spring 2025 Wait That Little Harder
@AfroMario
Or snatch a firearm out of someone's hand
Re: Indiana Jones PS5's Launch Trailer Will Make the Spring 2025 Wait That Little Harder
@MeanBeanEgg
I used to despise first person and I was a third person purist until one of my favorite series (Resident Evil) went first person. It forced me to give it a try and I wound up really enjoying it.
I think if it's done well then first person is fine.
Re: This Horizon Rip-Off Has to Be One of the Most Blatant Copycat Games Ever
I see no resemblance whatsoever
Re: Naughty Dog's Supposed New IP Timeless Travel Seemingly a Fake
@Pat_trick
Finally their true vision can come to life!
Re: Naughty Dog's Supposed New IP Timeless Travel Seemingly a Fake
Of course it's fake, they are all hands on deck on working on the Last Of Us Part 2 PS5 Remaster.
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Pro Is Yet Another Version of a Great Game
Naughty Dog have gone full caricature
Re: The Game Awards Confirms DLC, Remasters Can Win Game of the Year Days Prior to Nominations Reveal
@zupertramp
Best micro transactions
Best paid costumes
Best loot available after Boss defeat
Best jumping physics
Best sarcasm from a protagonist
Best time before game tells you how to solve puzzle
Best turnaround time between original release and remake/remaster for moneygrab
Re: The Game Awards Confirms DLC, Remasters Can Win Game of the Year Days Prior to Nominations Reveal
Remasters for GOTY is absurd as are DLCs qualifying.
Even remakes shouldn't be allowed.
Re: Game of Thrones Star Sophie Turner Might Play Lara Croft in Tomb Raider TV Show
I would rather have Camilla Luddington. A gorgeous woman, actress, and an English woman as well.
And did a great job voicing Lara to boot.
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Re: PlayStation Has Swiftly Solved Its Profitability Problem
PS5 Pro is most definitely a luxury item, my god people.
If a millionaire buys a Porsche, does that not still make it objectively a luxury item for them? The income of the person doesn't matter with regards to the categorization of the product.
While the PS5 Pro is a good deal for what you get, it's still a luxury item.
The same way getting a yacht for 500k instead of the regular million is a good deal yes, but still a luxury item.
Re: PlayStation Has Swiftly Solved Its Profitability Problem
If the PS5 Pro is being sold at a very large profit, I can imagine how large those profit margins must be on individual PC components, because there's no chance in hell you'd be able to build a system like a PS5 Pro (don't forget controller) for anywhere near that
Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
Do these even sell?
Re: Insomniac Developers Psyched for PS5 Pro, Enhanced Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is 'Phenomenal'
@Steel76
Lol haha exactly. I didn't know the PS5 hardware was such a bottleneck in achieving their "true vision," it must be so hard as a developer to design a game on such horrible hardware :eyeroll:
Re: Insomniac Developers Psyched for PS5 Pro, Enhanced Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is 'Phenomenal'
This is just hyperbole. The game was that bad on the PS5 that it wasn't the "true vision?"
Please.
Re: PS5 Pro was a '5-Year Project', In Development Before PS5's Launch
@tameshiyaku
It looks the PS5 disk version sold at a loss a bit longer than the PS4 according to the article, so there's no difference there at least from the previous generation.
Probably the disk version made it to profitability faster than the digital version because the disk drive is like 20 bucks and they sell it for 100 dollars more.
And that's at 499, I bet the current 449 is now cutting it real close. Digital at 349 is a steal man, come on. Just the very high quality controller included in the system third party would be 100+ dollars.
You're looking at a PS5 digital system that costs 249 (sans controller.) For those graphics? Incredible deal.
I'll agree with you that not having disk available opens up doors in the future of the likes you mentioned, like games vanishing.
At least we can still buy the attachment.
Re: PS5 Pro was a '5-Year Project', In Development Before PS5's Launch
@tameshiyaku
You can get a PS5 digital for $349. That is a remarkablly good value.
There's no way that's not being sold at a loss.
And the PS4 Pro still had a platter drive. Eww. How is the jump from the PS4 Pro to the PS5 not a big one?
I think we're just hitting diminishing returns in terms of graphical upgrades.
The days of the jumps in graphics from the Genesis to the PS1 are over.
Now we're just upping resolution, frame rate, lighting, etc. These changes don't look as dramatic when comparing generation to generation.
Maybe that's having a psychological effect.
I think the PS5 was a good deal.