@ThroughTheIris56 Most sales in every region are digital, the outrage has all be online from hardcore gamers and scalpers scalp anything they feel will be scarce in supply, that’s what scalping is.
Check any sales chart data and look at the ratios, the fact consoles are leaning towards this option shows we are heading into a digital age, I never said I’m for it, I have a disc drive for my incoming pro, I like physical, sometimes digital is a better deal but that’s 1/10 times.
PS5 Slim also had a digital option, it’s just cheap enough that they can sell the disc drive with an optional SKU without losing too much money, one disc drive is all it takes to render the slim obsolete so I’m happy to do that if it means enjoying my time this generation.
@ThroughTheIris56 Embarrassment is a bit far fetched, an annoyance maybe, but we do live in a digital age so you can't blame companies for moving away from a dying market (most sales are digital these days)
I myself am a disc collector but most of my friends only stick to digital and don't care for their drives, a sign of the times!
And that my friends, is why you buy the disc drive early, thankfully not an issue to me, but I hope SONY get more stock out soon for those needing one last minute.
Black Ops 6 being on here is really intriguing, especially seeing as Sony were convinced in the legal battle over Xbox getting Activision last year that Xbox would on purposely make the game run worse on Sony consoles lmao
I love Toyama so much but reading some other reviews and seeing gameplay it really seems like this is a deep sale kinda game.
The pros listed here aren’t sounding like a 7/10 game, especially not at full price, I’ll definitely play this on the Pro in late 2025 when it’s in deep discount!
@zhoont Not true, they were saved by Krafton and are now working on a sequel to Hi-Fi Rush, however Ghostwire Tokyo and The Evil Within will remain with Microsoft so no chance of a Pro update.
@extragood when the PS5 Pro had its initial reveal I was a huge critic, I hated the price and the video was an awful showing for its power, you can find multiple comments of me blasting/ridiculing it
Sony did such an awful job with it's reveal and it really was a huge mistake not using the likes of DF to show it off, as once I saw more analysis on their end I was sold and the £699 was no longer a hindrance.
@Northern_munkey will it be worth the image quality sacrifices though? Even MHW, the performance mode is a blurry ghosting mess, and that will get worse for the majority of third party games as the generation moves forward.
I think the delayed cross gen period has perhaps made people have unrealistic expectations for the lifespan of 60fps gaming on the base model, at least with good IQ.
@WiiWareWave the PS4 was never a 60fps machine though, by the time it launched it was already outdated with its Jaguar Core.
the PS5 is a great piece of kit but it’s not gonna be a 60fps machine the longer into the gen we go, that’s where the Pro comes in, that’s all you need to know to determine whether it’s worth the high price of admission.
@atthegates that’s the whole point of PS5 Pro though, patches like these are easier to implement than ever thanks to PSSR, the devs don’t NEED to slave over the computers working the code to make things work, it’s a plug and play approach which thanks to the Pro will be even better on the PS6.
Devs aren’t doing this whilst doing their best Mr Burns impression against the players on the base PS5. If it wasn’t for the easy nature of the PSSR implementation and the extra headroom offered by the Pro, it wouldn’t be possible.
@Pat_trick yeah writing is something that does seem mixed, I’ve seen some reviewers I really respect praise the narrative and dialogue whereas others have pointed out the marvelification of the dialogue that does worry me slightly
I’d check out the Mortismal Gaming review, a good viewpoint from a reviewer I like a lot.
@Pat_trick I did watch that mate! Was interesting to hear a more negative view point and some of the criticisms made by SkillUp were things that would annoy me, that’s why I love games though and the differences of opinions, like how SkillUp didn’t like TLOU II but I loved it, same with how IGN didn’t like Days Gone or Death Stranding and I loved those, I love how art is so subjective and I adore the debates that spawn from said art.
I’ll definitely have to give DA:TVG a go, I’ve got it coming for release but have so many games to play on the pro first it’ll have to wait lmao
Decent 7/10, great traversal and combat bogged down by an awful short story and a lack of the main villain the games entire hype cycle was based around.
Also handled dual protagonists worse than games 2 generations older (GTAV) and failed to level up the open world or its structure in any meaningful way.
Spider-Man 2 was disappointing to me, but broken? No chance, I had one minor glitch on my end and in my 35 hours getting the platinum it was pretty damn smooth sailing.
I’m glad they’re moving onto Venom/Wolverine as SM2 is not going to age well at all in terms of its story and open world.
Lots of grifters called Silent Hill 2 Remake woke for making Angela “look like a man”, but it’s just sold 1m copies in 3 days, so that can’t be a failure can it?
Woke is a buzzword used for people who aren’t eloquent enough to critique things, games like Starfield and Concord don’t fail because they’re woke, they fail because they’re bland and lacking ambition, they’re by the numbers games looking to reach wider audiences whilst failing to captivate any of the specific niches enough to become long term fans.
Horizon has been a success, but that’s simply because pretty robot dinosaur games are a hard concept to fail at.
@Gewertzx I think the Horizon games are pretty average outside of visuals/combat, but let’s not lie here and pretend there weren’t a million edits on twitter and other social media forums going around for Horizon Forbidden West talking how the game was “woke” as it had made Aloy look “fat and ugly”.
That definitely plays a part for some of the hate it gets online, right wing grifters will over hate on anything that isn’t a white straight male on the cover, only exception is when a female character is overly sexualised like in Stellar Blade!
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Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
@ThroughTheIris56 Most sales in every region are digital, the outrage has all be online from hardcore gamers and scalpers scalp anything they feel will be scarce in supply, that’s what scalping is.
Check any sales chart data and look at the ratios, the fact consoles are leaning towards this option shows we are heading into a digital age, I never said I’m for it, I have a disc drive for my incoming pro, I like physical, sometimes digital is a better deal but that’s 1/10 times.
PS5 Slim also had a digital option, it’s just cheap enough that they can sell the disc drive with an optional SKU without losing too much money, one disc drive is all it takes to render the slim obsolete so I’m happy to do that if it means enjoying my time this generation.
Re: Empire of the Ants' Creepy-Crawlies Will Move at 60fps on PS5 Pro
@Cerny ah yes as Sony are definitely forcing devs to release 30fps games….
Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
@ThroughTheIris56 Embarrassment is a bit far fetched, an annoyance maybe, but we do live in a digital age so you can't blame companies for moving away from a dying market (most sales are digital these days)
I myself am a disc collector but most of my friends only stick to digital and don't care for their drives, a sign of the times!
Re: In the UK, You Can't Buy a PS5 Pro Disc Drive without Paying a Premium
And that my friends, is why you buy the disc drive early, thankfully not an issue to me, but I hope SONY get more stock out soon for those needing one last minute.
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Set to Run Significantly Better on PS5 Pro, Early Footage Reveals
MHW will be similar I suspect, POWER IN PRO BABYYYYY
Re: Official List of PS5 Pro Launch Games Revealed by Sony
@naruball Oh aye I think it was more Jimbo rambling rather than the company’s view as a whole.
Re: Official List of PS5 Pro Launch Games Revealed by Sony
@naruball https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/8/23630700/sony-microsoft-call-of-duty-sabotage-cma-documents-activision-deal 😉
Re: Official List of PS5 Pro Launch Games Revealed by Sony
Black Ops 6 being on here is really intriguing, especially seeing as Sony were convinced in the legal battle over Xbox getting Activision last year that Xbox would on purposely make the game run worse on Sony consoles lmao
Re: Silent Hill 2 Fan Solves the Mystery Behind PS5 Remake's New Photos
@Oram77 I can see Geoff snubbing it purely because it’s a Konami game sadly
Re: Slitterhead (PS5) - Inventive Horror Is Essential for Japan Studio Fans
I love Toyama so much but reading some other reviews and seeing gameplay it really seems like this is a deep sale kinda game.
The pros listed here aren’t sounding like a 7/10 game, especially not at full price, I’ll definitely play this on the Pro in late 2025 when it’s in deep discount!
Re: All PS5 Pro Enhanced Games
@zhoont Not true, they were saved by Krafton and are now working on a sequel to Hi-Fi Rush, however Ghostwire Tokyo and The Evil Within will remain with Microsoft so no chance of a Pro update.
Re: PS5 Pro Could Seriously Improve the Quality of Your PS4 Games
Bloodborne has been accessed by the same person with the Pro Retail Unit and has no changes in FPS or Resolution.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard Comes Out Swinging, Already EA's Biggest Single Player Game on Steam
We love to see it, got my physical copy and will be one of the games I dive into once the Pro comes!
Re: Wolverine PS5 Lead Dev Leaves for Xbox's Perfect Dark Team
This is great news, one talent leaves but another takes their place and made some games I loved.
Re: New Dragon's Dogma 2 Patch Prepares for PS5 Pro with PSSR, Balanced Settings
@extragood when the PS5 Pro had its initial reveal I was a huge critic, I hated the price and the video was an awful showing for its power, you can find multiple comments of me blasting/ridiculing it
Sony did such an awful job with it's reveal and it really was a huge mistake not using the likes of DF to show it off, as once I saw more analysis on their end I was sold and the £699 was no longer a hindrance.
Re: New Dragon's Dogma 2 Patch Prepares for PS5 Pro with PSSR, Balanced Settings
£699 well spent, bring on the 7th!
Re: After a Tough Few Months, Sony Says It'll Keep Making PS5 Live Service Games
#HermenOut
#ShuIn
#BringLaydenBack
Re: PS5, PC Flop Concord Never Returning, Studio Closed Down
Hopefully Sony will learn from this that we don’t want generic live service shooters, right? RIGHT?
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@Northern_munkey will it be worth the image quality sacrifices though? Even MHW, the performance mode is a blurry ghosting mess, and that will get worse for the majority of third party games as the generation moves forward.
I think the delayed cross gen period has perhaps made people have unrealistic expectations for the lifespan of 60fps gaming on the base model, at least with good IQ.
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@WiiWareWave it’s not just 1-2 extra FPS cmon now, you can criticise the Pro without being disingenuous
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@WiiWareWave the PS4 was never a 60fps machine though, by the time it launched it was already outdated with its Jaguar Core.
the PS5 is a great piece of kit but it’s not gonna be a 60fps machine the longer into the gen we go, that’s where the Pro comes in, that’s all you need to know to determine whether it’s worth the high price of admission.
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@WiiWareWave if that was true we wouldn’t have games already struggling on the system (FF7 Rebirth, FF16, DD2, Monster Hunter Wilds, Elden Ring)
Re: Soulslike Lords of the Fallen Resurrects with 40% Higher Pixel Density on PS5 Pro
@atthegates that’s the whole point of PS5 Pro though, patches like these are easier to implement than ever thanks to PSSR, the devs don’t NEED to slave over the computers working the code to make things work, it’s a plug and play approach which thanks to the Pro will be even better on the PS6.
Devs aren’t doing this whilst doing their best Mr Burns impression against the players on the base PS5. If it wasn’t for the easy nature of the PSSR implementation and the extra headroom offered by the Pro, it wouldn’t be possible.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@Pat_trick yeah writing is something that does seem mixed, I’ve seen some reviewers I really respect praise the narrative and dialogue whereas others have pointed out the marvelification of the dialogue that does worry me slightly
I’d check out the Mortismal Gaming review, a good viewpoint from a reviewer I like a lot.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@TheEnygma sadly was always gonna happen with that portal jumper character
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@Pat_trick I did watch that mate! Was interesting to hear a more negative view point and some of the criticisms made by SkillUp were things that would annoy me, that’s why I love games though and the differences of opinions, like how SkillUp didn’t like TLOU II but I loved it, same with how IGN didn’t like Days Gone or Death Stranding and I loved those, I love how art is so subjective and I adore the debates that spawn from said art.
I’ll definitely have to give DA:TVG a go, I’ve got it coming for release but have so many games to play on the pro first it’ll have to wait lmao
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@Pat_trick I’ve read and watched multiple reviews that have praised the game, I’m not saying it’s a masterpiece, it’s what I said it was, a good game.
People against this game were saying it was going to be a dumpster fire, an 84 MC score isn’t that whatsoever.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
@LikelySatan Jesus that’s a callback 😭 remember playing that game at a mates back in the day
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard (PS5) - The Best BioWare Game Since Mass Effect 3
I thought the game was gonna suck as it had people with purple hair in it?
Love to see them crawl back into the basement, WE GOT A GOOD GAME YALLLL
Can’t wait to play this on the pro.
Re: Play Monster Hunter Wilds on PS5 from Next Week with Open Beta
@Loamy I saw this news and was so excited then I saw the dates and realised I had no PS5 during that period lmaooooo
Series X gonna have to come in clutch, maybe it’ll make me appreciate the boost of Pro even more 😉😂
Re: Play Monster Hunter Wilds on PS5 from Next Week with Open Beta
This is payback for me selling my OG whilst I waited for the pro to arrive…
Guess it’s time to dust off the Series X to try this out!
Re: LEGO Pitched the Brilliant LEGO Horizon Adventures to Sony
@LowDefAl Thunderjaw would look real nice…
Re: LEGO Pitched the Brilliant LEGO Horizon Adventures to Sony
That’s great and all, but we need more Horizon LEGO sets! My Tallneck is getting lonely!
Re: Preview: LEGO Horizon Adventures Is Looking Like the Best LEGO Game Yet
@get2sammyb For full price no chance, once it inevitably goes on Plus though!
Re: Preview: LEGO Horizon Adventures Is Looking Like the Best LEGO Game Yet
Yeah sorry but nothing is coming close to the OG LEGO Games or LEGO Lord of The Rings.
Re: Atomfall Shares First Gameplay Look, Out for PS5, PS4 in March
This looks incredible, more than hyped after Bethesda have shown they’re never reaching the level of FO3/Skyrim ever again.
Re: Silent Hill 2 Dev Bloober Team Done with Making 'Shitty' Games
Observer is a bloody fantastic game and a solid 9/10 imo.
Also I’d like to stage a protest on how PushSquare headlines can swear but we the commenters are censored!
Personally I think it’s a ***** ***** pissing ***** absolutely ***** ***** ***** disgrace.
Re: Poll: One Year Later, How Would You Rate Marvel's Spider-Man 2 on PS5?
Decent 7/10, great traversal and combat bogged down by an awful short story and a lack of the main villain the games entire hype cycle was based around.
Also handled dual protagonists worse than games 2 generations older (GTAV) and failed to level up the open world or its structure in any meaningful way.
Big changes needed for 3.
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
@MeatyVeg I played it from launch and got the platinum within the same week 👍🏼
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
Spider-Man 2 was disappointing to me, but broken? No chance, I had one minor glitch on my end and in my 35 hours getting the platinum it was pretty damn smooth sailing.
I’m glad they’re moving onto Venom/Wolverine as SM2 is not going to age well at all in terms of its story and open world.
Re: Heresy as Space Marine 2 Community Questions Saber's 'Bullsh*t Nerfs', Drops Review Bombs
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Re: Heresy as Space Marine 2 Community Questions Saber's 'Bullsh*t Nerfs', Drops Review Bombs
@The_Wailing_Doom that’s what the grifters on socials call them, it’s hilarious seeing as they’re the only crybabies.
(In case it wasn’t clear enough I’m using that language sarcastically against those who have those genuine beliefs)
Re: Heresy as Space Marine 2 Community Questions Saber's 'Bullsh*t Nerfs', Drops Review Bombs
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Re: Silent Hill 2 Dev Bloober Team Is Back with Cronos: The New Dawn on PS5
Day one! This looks like they’re taking everything learnt from SH2 Remake and dialling it up!
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered Sounds Like a Ridiculously Good PS5 Upgrade
@ApostateMage Zero Dawn had such a great story, at least the first half, and the dynamic between Aloy and Sylens was at its best here.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered Sounds Like a Ridiculously Good PS5 Upgrade
@Gewertzx You say that, but what even is “woke”.
Lots of grifters called Silent Hill 2 Remake woke for making Angela “look like a man”, but it’s just sold 1m copies in 3 days, so that can’t be a failure can it?
Woke is a buzzword used for people who aren’t eloquent enough to critique things, games like Starfield and Concord don’t fail because they’re woke, they fail because they’re bland and lacking ambition, they’re by the numbers games looking to reach wider audiences whilst failing to captivate any of the specific niches enough to become long term fans.
Horizon has been a success, but that’s simply because pretty robot dinosaur games are a hard concept to fail at.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered Sounds Like a Ridiculously Good PS5 Upgrade
@Dalamar Good point! Edited my post to include that game too, forgot about the sex pests 😉
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered Sounds Like a Ridiculously Good PS5 Upgrade
@Gewertzx I think the Horizon games are pretty average outside of visuals/combat, but let’s not lie here and pretend there weren’t a million edits on twitter and other social media forums going around for Horizon Forbidden West talking how the game was “woke” as it had made Aloy look “fat and ugly”.
That definitely plays a part for some of the hate it gets online, right wing grifters will over hate on anything that isn’t a white straight male on the cover, only exception is when a female character is overly sexualised like in Stellar Blade!
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 PS5 Performance Quietly Improved By Latest Patch, Players Say
So basically a locked 60 on the Pro?
HELL YEAHHHHH
Re: IO Interactive's Project 007 to Feature a 'Young Bond for Gamers' with a View to a Trilogy
It makes sense to make it a younger bond if it’s a trilogy, means there’s more room for the character to go.