@ThroughTheIris56 The Old Blood was peak too though. Few games have horrifically let me down like New Colossus did. I just wanted a game to kill fascist Nazis, not a game preaching to me that I was one too just because I disagree on economic or social issues with the writer.
I hope it’s more like New Order with the focus purely on Nazi-killing with Grindhouse tendencies instead of New Colossus where it dove headfirst into 2016 Woke 1.0 nonsense.
I genuinely don’t know how someone, outside of loyalty and sunk costs in a game library, can truly like what’s going on with Sony right now. I first got a PlayStation on Christmas in 98 and have been with them through everything as a consumer. Lately however, I just can’t. Genuinely - what defines their platform? Lukewarm-level successes of single player games that, on their best day, can’t lace the boots of their forebears? Incredibly disastrous live service games?
I’ve been playing my Switch 2 way more that my PS5 because, whatever you want to say about Nintendo, they have a firm identity that I know and trust. PlayStation? They’ve lost themselves.
I think they should. It’s a risk but if they want to bring value back to their ecosystem, this would be a way to do it. The results? Not sure, but that’s why it’s a risk.
Also, the reaction from some comments here just show the ego of some PS fans. Pride cometh before the fall.
@Fallon Oh I’ll readily admit I’m ignorant of most things British politics. All I know (I think) is that the Labour Party is the British version of the Left, so I’d assume I’m not a fan of theirs. Either way, forgive anything misinformed. I just seem to remember the plot being post-Brexit where things were authoritarian.
The left paddle is a middle aged mother, who had all the potential in the world but unselfishly gave her career up so her less intelligent husband could father their child and start his business.
The right paddle is the said child. She/They is a rebellious spirit who knows more than every adult in her/their life but struggles to conform.
The object of the game is to defeat the patriarchy by beating it back and forth (dad is the ball) but you also get points when a side doesn’t hit the dad because it’s wrong that the patriarchy be a crucial part of this game as well. It needs to learn its place and go away.
Oh and another twist, the middle area of the screen is open world. So while the dad travels through the middle of the screen after being hit by his wife or daughter/it, he can participate in side content of all the bad things he did to his family and that way he can learn to do better. There will also be timed events hidden behind a “Battle the Patriarchy Pass”.
@nomither6 no but their ecosystem is fulfilling my needs and Sony’s no longer is. So as a consumer, I can either choose a perfect option (which doesn’t exist) or go with the one that, despite any flaws, fulfills my needs as a consumer.
@TheArt you’re not wrong. Some indies are wonderfully innovative. I always go back to Yoku’s Island Express as an example. A pinball Metroidvania? Who knew?
But other than examples like that, you’ll have a lot of indies that are just farts in the wind.
I felt his comments in my soul. The quirky and innovative PlayStation I loved is long dead.
It’s why I’m so much more attracted to the Nintendo ecosystem now. They reuse the same IPs but are constantly seeking to do it differently. The focus is on fun instead of messaging.
We will see. Just because these games are potentially coming does not also mean quality. Sony has lost alot of goodwill that can no longer just be assumed.
By most metrics, there has only been one “slam dunk” exclusive this generation: Astro Bot. That’s it. There’s others some love, some hate or some are indifferent too but only one that is universally loved. That is very un-PlayStation.
And, outside of quality, quantity is also ridiculous. There’s been more true exclusives in the first year of the Switch 2 that in the entire gen of PS5. That’s nonsense.
So long story short - we will see. The assumed goodwill is gone for a lot of people, myself included. And that was a goodwill I personally had built up since 1997. But the quality isn’t consistent, the budgets are too big and I’m seeing less engaging stories in the games as opposed to messaging about being “pro current thing”. I want Sony to win me back and a good, simple Ape Escape game COULD do it.
1. People who are legitimately attacking her need to stop, that’s morally wrong.
2. It’s disingenuous to pretend that the game did not obviously take this very attractive actress and downgrade her looks. Not even just from real life but even the previous game.
So, don’t be mean and insult the actress. She’s beautiful.
Also, don’t pretend your eyes are lying to you when it comes to what they’ve done to change her appearance. You’re not “owning the chuds” by disagreeing with them, you just come across as a political actor.
I will say though, it’s still a shame that this wouldn’t center on a son instead of a daughter (and I say this as a girl dad of two daughters myself). The father-son dynamic and story of Sully/Drake would’ve had a perfect ending with Drake himself having a son who carries on the legacy. Could have been a true full circle moment.
His statement was the most milquetoast, “I don’t want to offend anyone but he’s my point” statement ever and apparently people STILL got the sads from it. Oh boo hoo.
@Krlozgod I do agree that there are people on the site that seem to act like they actively own stock in SIE but there are also just people here who are fans. Heck, I used to be one. Still am deep down I suppose.
If you’re celebrating the fact that a corporate entity that doesn’t care about you and is ironically, actively seeking ways to squeeze more money out of you, didn’t get their bottom line hurt, you’re not owning the chuds. You’re just coming across as a bootlicker. The boycotters look stupid, you look stupid. We all come across stupid. Sorry.
Second, I have loved the convenience of digital gaming on my PlayStation since the PS4 days. Personally I’ve stepped away from PS due to poor management and terrible first party quality/output. I wonder how many others have too? Probably not many.
@get2sammyb very true, and I count myself among them if I’m honest. I’m mainly a Switch 2 user now but if Sony fired Hulst, canceled all the live service stuff and announced Puppeteer 2, Sly Cooper 5, a new Everybody’s Golf and a Medievil 2 remake?
Then I’d be the first one saying “We’re so back, baby!”
@PuppetMaster Oy vey. Don’t threaten us with a good time.
You’re literally saying what they’ve done, myself included. They have walked away. Living or participating in the PS ecosystem however necessitates still being in close proximity, which is why the reaction is what it is.
Also, this is just basic economics and capitalism. A business had consumers who trusted said business. Then the consumers, in their mind, got burned. Now they’re cautious or have walked away. Don’t clutch your pearls in surprise.
@CP2 I’ve more or less completely migrated over to Nintendo. I still emulate classic PS things and boot up my PS3 on occasion but my PS5 Pro collects dust. Nintendo has their own issues, believe me, but they almost exclusively remain ideologically neutral and consistent, focusing on games over messaging. So I’ve gravitated over.
@PuppetMaster I’m just stating the reality here, so take that with a grain of salt.
The reason why people are reacting this way to that screenshot/this character has to do with the loss of the benefit of a doubt on the part of ND.
To many lifelong PS/ND fans, the absolute state of characterization in TLOU2 that was sacrificed at the altar of “the message” (or however you would like to frame it) has shaped everything ND does going forward until real creative changes internally happen.
Many burned fans see this as a canary in the coal mine. It’s not just a smug looking character like previous ones you mentioned such as Wesker. Games like Resident Evil came, for better or worse, developers and games that remained consistent with their characters. After the bowel movement ND took in TLOU2, all for the sake of political points, progressivism and post-modernism, they will be looked at skeptically until otherwise earned. This frustrates the other side of fans who don’t see a problem at all but I’m sorry, what I said just is the reality as of now.
But also as I said in my previous comment, if anyone is looking forward to this then I do hope you get what you want and enjoy it.
If people play and enjoy this, God bless you. Enjoy.
As for myself, I just can't bring myself to care. The ND (and, by extension, PlayStation as a whole) I was once a fan of is just kinda... gone. The hubris, the posturing/support of <insert current political/social thing>, the people who grift on complaining (but provide little substance or argument) and then the people who grift on making fun of the grifters (but never necessarily presenting any decent arguments to combat any legitimate concerns).....it just has all put me off.
Hope people enjoy whatever this ends up being or not being. I'm good, though.
This will do absolutely no good but I can’t deny that I wish it would because PlayStation’s hubris since about 2016-2017 has become steadily insufferable.
Personally, the beginning and the end of why Tsushima is better is because Jin is just a better character. This piece even stated that, while both characters are seeking revenge, there’s different inciting events. Atsu’s quest is a personal quest for revenge while Jin’s is more broad due to defending his home.
To me, this is why Jin’s is better. While we can all sympathize with Atsu’s quest, we often seek the stories we read, watch or play to inspire us. Jin was no saint but his journey of defending his home is much more of a noble hero’s journey while Atsu’s is more selfish (understandable but selfish).
It’s similar to why people are more affectionate to Last of Us 1 versus 2. Joel’s journey and evolution in 1 is more noble and inspiring, even with the terrible things he does, versus Ellie/Abby’s more selfish motivations in 2. I know some people will state certain decisions Joel makes are selfish themselves but, I would argue not due to the morals of saving people you love versus having anger over someone wronging you.
Classic stories and classic tropes are classic for a reason. We like heroes and like to inspire ourselves to be selfless and people seem to have fatigue of all post-modern stories obsession with deconstructing classic types of characters and stories. So I know Yotei sold well but it did so off the back of Tsushima. Years from now, Tsushima will be fondly remembered and Yotei will be a footnote.
Most “normies” legitimately won’t care, more than likely anyways. It’s the diehards and fans like us that do.
I’ve been a PlayStation player since 1998 but ever since the tail end of the PS4 generation, they’ve slowly been showing me that my business is no longer needed. Whether it’s the games they put out (when they actually get around to doing that) or decisions like this, I’m no longer needed as a consumer. And that’s okay, all things come to an end.
My point was, that with just two exclusives, Xbox would have a chunk of what PS5 has had this whole gen. The larger point being that Sony has been dreadful with true exclusives. I say this by the way as someone who has played PlayStation since 1998 but also is honest.
The funny thing is (or sad depending on where you’re at), Xbox will have almost as many console exclusives with E-Day and Clockwork that PS5 has had its whole generation.
Wolverine looks dope, the Tomb Raider remake looks fantastic. I’m glad to see ILL pop back up. Still excited for SH Townfall too. Oh and the random revival of the Stuntman games FTW!
Outside of that? Until Dawn 2 did nothing for me, I feel like an actual sequel is a ship that sailed a long time ago, so getting it now does not nearly hit like it should. And GoW Laufey looks fine but also looks like every other third person AAA action game these days. I need to know what about it specifically makes it different or unique to all the others? The IP name?
@Yor-sama I do find this just a bit disingenuous. There are absolutely mouth-breathers out there who will not like anything with a female MC, but most “normies” just don’t want to be preached to or messaged at. Go back to the first Horizon or TLOU, no one said boo about anything. Even with the Left Behind DLC, nothing.
It was only when it went from “making stories that happen to have a female main character” to “this is a story where this character is female by God and you’re gonna sit down, take your talking to, and you’re gonna like it.”, that things began to change. Most people, including myself, just want good content. We could care less what is or isn’t between someone’s legs or the shade of their skin.
@Oram77 The protagonist design isn’t even on my radar for why I’m not looking forward to Intergalactic. The supposed story rumors and how it wants to tackle religion is why I was like “nah, I’m good”.
I realize I’m probably in the minority here but every one of these predictions seem reasonable/realistic and also unbelievably boring. Being a PS fan isn’t very exciting for me personally these days.
@TrollOfWar Weak and feckless male characters would, at least from me, get the same criticism as overly strong female ones do. It’s a two-way street. Again, if evolution, vulnerability, etc are involved then the conversation is different but in today’s post-modern lens, that doesn’t happen.
And now you’re moving into the “it’s just a video game, calm down bro” argument. If that was reality, I’d bite on that. But you and I both know, the creators of games these days don’t see their products as “just video games”. They’re vehicles. They have clear messaging they’re trying to insert and get across. To deny that is either to lie or be genuinely ignorant.
@TrollOfWar I’m gonna blow your mind with this one but…
Men and women are inherently different. They both seek, feel and act differently. They both serve different roles and functions in society, which is a good thing. Men are naturally hunters, fighters, providers. Women are naturally lovers, caretakers, supporters. There’s absolutely flexibility in the joints here, the roles aren’t set in stone and both men and women can drift around in these roles. But Biology is undefeated and these are the roles that we’re predisposed to and have proved successful for millions of years. Modern society finding these natural roles offensive instead of empowering genuinely confuses me. Statistically, studies and data show that the more society rejects these traditional roles, the less happy they actually are.
That point aside, let me go back to the actual discussion here, which is female characterization. I will always motion to Ripley from Alien and Sarah Conner from Terminator. Incredibly strong characters with fantastic development but also not girl bosses. No male pop culture fan alive hates them, yet they’re strong. The reason? They’re vulnerable with flaws yet still become strong and overcome. AKA they’re actually well written characters who happen to be women instead of a neo-liberal post-modern idea of what a “strong female character” should be. Connors in particular finds her strength in being a mother, the most female-empowering thing there is, instead of some sense of trying to out-men other men.
But wait a minute. Reliable journalists and YTubers wrote think pieces and made videos about how things player counts and data like this are weaponized against games like Marathon or Concord.
@wildcat_kickz Fair enough. It’s just hard when, as a consumer of media for last ten years or so where this has been an issue with how female characters have been written, to see certain trends and have that gut reaction.
@wildcat_kickz I have no issues with a strongly written female character. In the first Horizon, Aloy was fantastically written. Same with Ellie in TLOU. I can cite numerous other examples. It’s about creating a character who is allowed to fail, be wrong, grow, etc.
But we also have the “girl boss” tropes that have been prevalent in all levels of entertainment over the last ten years or so and it’s easy to sniff it out. They’re always the strongest, they’re never wrong and maybe worst of all, they’re boring.
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Re: Wolfenstein 3 Announced, Now in the Works at MachineGames
@ThroughTheIris56 The Old Blood was peak too though. Few games have horrifically let me down like New Colossus did. I just wanted a game to kill fascist Nazis, not a game preaching to me that I was one too just because I disagree on economic or social issues with the writer.
Re: Wolfenstein 3 Announced, Now in the Works at MachineGames
I hope it’s more like New Order with the focus purely on Nazi-killing with Grindhouse tendencies instead of New Colossus where it dove headfirst into 2016 Woke 1.0 nonsense.
Re: 'It Felt Like a PowerPoint Deck of Executive Ideas': Beta Testers Share Thoughts on PS5's Cancelled Fairgames
I genuinely don’t know how someone, outside of loyalty and sunk costs in a game library, can truly like what’s going on with Sony right now. I first got a PlayStation on Christmas in 98 and have been with them through everything as a consumer. Lately however, I just can’t. Genuinely - what defines their platform? Lukewarm-level successes of single player games that, on their best day, can’t lace the boots of their forebears? Incredibly disastrous live service games?
I’ve been playing my Switch 2 way more that my PS5 because, whatever you want to say about Nintendo, they have a firm identity that I know and trust. PlayStation? They’ve lost themselves.
Re: Sony Cancels Fairgames After Years of Work on PS5 Live Service Shooter
Sony is carrying so many Ls right now, their arms have to be killing them.
Re: Xbox Polling Players on Whether Fallout, Elder Scrolls, or Even Minecraft Should Go Exclusive
I think they should. It’s a risk but if they want to bring value back to their ecosystem, this would be a way to do it. The results? Not sure, but that’s why it’s a risk.
Also, the reaction from some comments here just show the ego of some PS fans. Pride cometh before the fall.
Re: PlayStation Hardware Sales Hit Lowest Point Since 2013 in US, and PS5's Price Is the Problem
The price is ONE of the problems. The lack of quality reasons to own the hardware compared to other ecosystems is the other.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Sales Estimates Are Somewhat Soft, But Here's Why I'm Not Worried
If “cope” was an article
Re: GTA 6 In-Game Radio Stations Announced, and You Can Preview Them Right Now
The podcasts are where I’d go to. I rarely ever listen to the music stations in GTA, it’s all about Chatterbox, VCPR, etc.
My only hope is they don’t tone down the irreverence of these stations, just to fit the “modern audience”.
Re: Rumour: Watch Dogs Legion to Receive Surprise PS5 Remake Next Year
@Fallon Oh I’ll readily admit I’m ignorant of most things British politics. All I know (I think) is that the Labour Party is the British version of the Left, so I’d assume I’m not a fan of theirs. Either way, forgive anything misinformed. I just seem to remember the plot being post-Brexit where things were authoritarian.
Re: Rumour: Watch Dogs Legion to Receive Surprise PS5 Remake Next Year
Wasn’t this game like anti-Brexit? Seems very of its time.
Re: Rumour: Sony 'Accepting Game Pitches' on Fan Fave Franchises, First Wave Due Around PS6 Launch
@Dalamar This. Right. Here.
The left paddle is a middle aged mother, who had all the potential in the world but unselfishly gave her career up so her less intelligent husband could father their child and start his business.
The right paddle is the said child. She/They is a rebellious spirit who knows more than every adult in her/their life but struggles to conform.
The object of the game is to defeat the patriarchy by beating it back and forth (dad is the ball) but you also get points when a side doesn’t hit the dad because it’s wrong that the patriarchy be a crucial part of this game as well. It needs to learn its place and go away.
Oh and another twist, the middle area of the screen is open world. So while the dad travels through the middle of the screen after being hit by his wife or daughter/it, he can participate in side content of all the bad things he did to his family and that way he can learn to do better. There will also be timed events hidden behind a “Battle the Patriarchy Pass”.
Go ahead Sony, you can have that idea for free.
Re: The Father of PlayStation Thinks Games Have Stagnated, Calls for Curiosity in Developers
@nomither6 no but their ecosystem is fulfilling my needs and Sony’s no longer is. So as a consumer, I can either choose a perfect option (which doesn’t exist) or go with the one that, despite any flaws, fulfills my needs as a consumer.
Re: The Father of PlayStation Thinks Games Have Stagnated, Calls for Curiosity in Developers
@TheArt you’re not wrong. Some indies are wonderfully innovative. I always go back to Yoku’s Island Express as an example. A pinball Metroidvania? Who knew?
But other than examples like that, you’ll have a lot of indies that are just farts in the wind.
Re: The Father of PlayStation Thinks Games Have Stagnated, Calls for Curiosity in Developers
I felt his comments in my soul. The quirky and innovative PlayStation I loved is long dead.
It’s why I’m so much more attracted to the Nintendo ecosystem now. They reuse the same IPs but are constantly seeking to do it differently. The focus is on fun instead of messaging.
Re: Sony Purportedly Plotting New Ape Escape, as Redemption Arc Starts
We will see. Just because these games are potentially coming does not also mean quality. Sony has lost alot of goodwill that can no longer just be assumed.
By most metrics, there has only been one “slam dunk” exclusive this generation: Astro Bot. That’s it. There’s others some love, some hate or some are indifferent too but only one that is universally loved. That is very un-PlayStation.
And, outside of quality, quantity is also ridiculous. There’s been more true exclusives in the first year of the Switch 2 that in the entire gen of PS5. That’s nonsense.
So long story short - we will see. The assumed goodwill is gone for a lot of people, myself included. And that was a goodwill I personally had built up since 1997. But the quality isn’t consistent, the budgets are too big and I’m seeing less engaging stories in the games as opposed to messaging about being “pro current thing”. I want Sony to win me back and a good, simple Ape Escape game COULD do it.
Re: 'In No Way Do I Agree': Vincent D'Onofrio Defends God of War Laufey Star from Online Hate
Two things can be true at once:
1. People who are legitimately attacking her need to stop, that’s morally wrong.
2. It’s disingenuous to pretend that the game did not obviously take this very attractive actress and downgrade her looks. Not even just from real life but even the previous game.
So, don’t be mean and insult the actress. She’s beautiful.
Also, don’t pretend your eyes are lying to you when it comes to what they’ve done to change her appearance. You’re not “owning the chuds” by disagreeing with them, you just come across as a political actor.
Re: Rumour: New Uncharted Game in the Works at Naughty Dog, Nathan Drake Not the Lead Character
Ok PlayStation, you have my attention.
I will say though, it’s still a shame that this wouldn’t center on a son instead of a daughter (and I say this as a girl dad of two daughters myself). The father-son dynamic and story of Sully/Drake would’ve had a perfect ending with Drake himself having a son who carries on the legacy. Could have been a true full circle moment.
Re: 'You Guys Are Gonna Have Your Minds Blown': Troy Baker Says We're Not Ready for Intergalactic
I bet he said this about TLoU2 as well. Little did we know he was being literal.
Re: The Last of Us Game Director Apologises for Dragging God of War Laufey into 'Boring' AAA Game Discussion
His statement was the most milquetoast, “I don’t want to offend anyone but he’s my point” statement ever and apparently people STILL got the sads from it. Oh boo hoo.
Re: PS5 Blackout Protest Made 'No Significant Change at All' to Player Counts, Says US Data
@Krlozgod I do agree that there are people on the site that seem to act like they actively own stock in SIE but there are also just people here who are fans. Heck, I used to be one. Still am deep down I suppose.
Re: PS5 Blackout Protest Made 'No Significant Change at All' to Player Counts, Says US Data
Also, two side notes:
If you’re celebrating the fact that a corporate entity that doesn’t care about you and is ironically, actively seeking ways to squeeze more money out of you, didn’t get their bottom line hurt, you’re not owning the chuds. You’re just coming across as a bootlicker. The boycotters look stupid, you look stupid. We all come across stupid. Sorry.
Second, I have loved the convenience of digital gaming on my PlayStation since the PS4 days. Personally I’ve stepped away from PS due to poor management and terrible first party quality/output. I wonder how many others have too? Probably not many.
Re: PS5 Blackout Protest Made 'No Significant Change at All' to Player Counts, Says US Data
@get2sammyb very true, and I count myself among them if I’m honest. I’m mainly a Switch 2 user now but if Sony fired Hulst, canceled all the live service stuff and announced Puppeteer 2, Sly Cooper 5, a new Everybody’s Golf and a Medievil 2 remake?
Then I’d be the first one saying “We’re so back, baby!”
Re: 'Can't Wait to Show You': Intergalactic PS5 Wraps MoCap Days Before State of Play
@PuppetMaster Oy vey. Don’t threaten us with a good time.
You’re literally saying what they’ve done, myself included. They have walked away. Living or participating in the PS ecosystem however necessitates still being in close proximity, which is why the reaction is what it is.
Also, this is just basic economics and capitalism. A business had consumers who trusted said business. Then the consumers, in their mind, got burned. Now they’re cautious or have walked away. Don’t clutch your pearls in surprise.
Re: 'Can't Wait to Show You': Intergalactic PS5 Wraps MoCap Days Before State of Play
@CP2 I’ve more or less completely migrated over to Nintendo. I still emulate classic PS things and boot up my PS3 on occasion but my PS5 Pro collects dust. Nintendo has their own issues, believe me, but they almost exclusively remain ideologically neutral and consistent, focusing on games over messaging. So I’ve gravitated over.
Re: 'Can't Wait to Show You': Intergalactic PS5 Wraps MoCap Days Before State of Play
@PuppetMaster I’m just stating the reality here, so take that with a grain of salt.
The reason why people are reacting this way to that screenshot/this character has to do with the loss of the benefit of a doubt on the part of ND.
To many lifelong PS/ND fans, the absolute state of characterization in TLOU2 that was sacrificed at the altar of “the message” (or however you would like to frame it) has shaped everything ND does going forward until real creative changes internally happen.
Many burned fans see this as a canary in the coal mine. It’s not just a smug looking character like previous ones you mentioned such as Wesker. Games like Resident Evil came, for better or worse, developers and games that remained consistent with their characters. After the bowel movement ND took in TLOU2, all for the sake of political points, progressivism and post-modernism, they will be looked at skeptically until otherwise earned. This frustrates the other side of fans who don’t see a problem at all but I’m sorry, what I said just is the reality as of now.
But also as I said in my previous comment, if anyone is looking forward to this then I do hope you get what you want and enjoy it.
Re: 'Can't Wait to Show You': Intergalactic PS5 Wraps MoCap Days Before State of Play
If people play and enjoy this, God bless you. Enjoy.
As for myself, I just can't bring myself to care. The ND (and, by extension, PlayStation as a whole) I was once a fan of is just kinda... gone. The hubris, the posturing/support of <insert current political/social thing>, the people who grift on complaining (but provide little substance or argument) and then the people who grift on making fun of the grifters (but never necessarily presenting any decent arguments to combat any legitimate concerns).....it just has all put me off.
Hope people enjoy whatever this ends up being or not being. I'm good, though.
Re: Protesting PS5 Players Now Plan Permanent Blackout, Meaning No GTA 6 or Wolverine
This will do absolutely no good but I can’t deny that I wish it would because PlayStation’s hubris since about 2016-2017 has become steadily insufferable.
I miss the PS3/early PS4 Sony.
Re: 'It's a Relentless Onslaught': Wolverine PS5 Dev Responds to Unprecedented Criticism
Oh boo hoo. Part of being in culture and producing art for culture and consumer consumption is you’ll have hate snd love coming at you.
Just make a good product and let it speak for itself. At the end of the day, if Wolverine is quality then the consumers will show up.
Re: Opinion: Ghost of Yotei Was a Weirdly Disappointing Sequel After Loving Tsushima
Personally, the beginning and the end of why Tsushima is better is because Jin is just a better character. This piece even stated that, while both characters are seeking revenge, there’s different inciting events. Atsu’s quest is a personal quest for revenge while Jin’s is more broad due to defending his home.
To me, this is why Jin’s is better. While we can all sympathize with Atsu’s quest, we often seek the stories we read, watch or play to inspire us. Jin was no saint but his journey of defending his home is much more of a noble hero’s journey while Atsu’s is more selfish (understandable but selfish).
It’s similar to why people are more affectionate to Last of Us 1 versus 2. Joel’s journey and evolution in 1 is more noble and inspiring, even with the terrible things he does, versus Ellie/Abby’s more selfish motivations in 2. I know some people will state certain decisions Joel makes are selfish themselves but, I would argue not due to the morals of saving people you love versus having anger over someone wronging you.
Classic stories and classic tropes are classic for a reason. We like heroes and like to inspire ourselves to be selfless and people seem to have fatigue of all post-modern stories obsession with deconstructing classic types of characters and stories. So I know Yotei sold well but it did so off the back of Tsushima. Years from now, Tsushima will be fondly remembered and Yotei will be a footnote.
Re: Sony's New Resident Evil Movie, Directed by Zach Cregger, Looks Superb in New Trailer
Looks like a great horror movie, just doesn’t look like RE
Re: PS6 Will Be a Digital Console, And Sony Has Huge Questions to Answer About Backwards Compatibility
Most “normies” legitimately won’t care, more than likely anyways. It’s the diehards and fans like us that do.
I’ve been a PlayStation player since 1998 but ever since the tail end of the PS4 generation, they’ve slowly been showing me that my business is no longer needed. Whether it’s the games they put out (when they actually get around to doing that) or decisions like this, I’m no longer needed as a consumer. And that’s okay, all things come to an end.
Re: Xbox Planning Major Layoffs Next Month, Could Involve a Studio Closure
@get2sammyb okay, name the PS5 exclusives from this gen that are not on anything else including PC.
Demon Souls
Astro Bot
Saros
GT7
Ratchet and Clank
Spider-Man. 2
Returnal
Yotei
My point was, that with just two exclusives, Xbox would have a chunk of what PS5 has had this whole gen. The larger point being that Sony has been dreadful with true exclusives. I say this by the way as someone who has played PlayStation since 1998 but also is honest.
Re: Xbox Planning Major Layoffs Next Month, Could Involve a Studio Closure
The funny thing is (or sad depending on where you’re at), Xbox will have almost as many console exclusives with E-Day and Clockwork that PS5 has had its whole generation.
Re: Crazy Taxi: World Tour Revives an Arcade Classic in 2027, But There's a Catch
This pearl-clutching over AI has gotta calm down.
Re: PS5 vs Pepperoni Pizza: New God of War Sparks Tense Exchange Between Sony and Domino's
@Sonofken Oh boy, here we go
Re: PS5 vs Pepperoni Pizza: New God of War Sparks Tense Exchange Between Sony and Domino's
Domino’s made a dumb but harmless joke and Santa Monica kinda comes across as being too sensitive. No one really “wins” here.
Re: Sound the Alarm: Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis Partially Developed Using AI
Yeah, who cares. All the doomsday-ing over AI baffles me. It’s just another tool.
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate State of Play for June 2026?
Overall, it was fiiiiiiiiiine.
Wolverine looks dope, the Tomb Raider remake looks fantastic. I’m glad to see ILL pop back up. Still excited for SH Townfall too. Oh and the random revival of the Stuntman games FTW!
Outside of that? Until Dawn 2 did nothing for me, I feel like an actual sequel is a ship that sailed a long time ago, so getting it now does not nearly hit like it should. And GoW Laufey looks fine but also looks like every other third person AAA action game these days. I need to know what about it specifically makes it different or unique to all the others? The IP name?
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate State of Play for June 2026?
@andykara2003 uhhhhhhh…..what? Only three first party games were shown and one of them we already knew about.
Re: PS5 First-Party Sales Have Fallen Sharply, But It Doesn't Tell the Full Story
You can always rely on PushSquare to run damage control
Re: 17 PS5 Predictions for State of Play June 2026
@Yor-sama I do find this just a bit disingenuous. There are absolutely mouth-breathers out there who will not like anything with a female MC, but most “normies” just don’t want to be preached to or messaged at. Go back to the first Horizon or TLOU, no one said boo about anything. Even with the Left Behind DLC, nothing.
It was only when it went from “making stories that happen to have a female main character” to “this is a story where this character is female by God and you’re gonna sit down, take your talking to, and you’re gonna like it.”, that things began to change. Most people, including myself, just want good content. We could care less what is or isn’t between someone’s legs or the shade of their skin.
Re: 17 PS5 Predictions for State of Play June 2026
@Oram77 The protagonist design isn’t even on my radar for why I’m not looking forward to Intergalactic. The supposed story rumors and how it wants to tackle religion is why I was like “nah, I’m good”.
Re: 17 PS5 Predictions for State of Play June 2026
Here is what would get me excited, and I’m going unrealistic without losing my mind:
Re: 17 PS5 Predictions for State of Play June 2026
@EfYI People have been down on Insomniac ever since SM2. It wasn’t bad but just incredibly mediocre.
Re: 17 PS5 Predictions for State of Play June 2026
I realize I’m probably in the minority here but every one of these predictions seem reasonable/realistic and also unbelievably boring. Being a PS fan isn’t very exciting for me personally these days.
Re: No One Noticed Intergalactic's Hidden Naughty Dog Easter Egg
@TrollOfWar Weak and feckless male characters would, at least from me, get the same criticism as overly strong female ones do. It’s a two-way street. Again, if evolution, vulnerability, etc are involved then the conversation is different but in today’s post-modern lens, that doesn’t happen.
And now you’re moving into the “it’s just a video game, calm down bro” argument. If that was reality, I’d bite on that. But you and I both know, the creators of games these days don’t see their products as “just video games”. They’re vehicles. They have clear messaging they’re trying to insert and get across. To deny that is either to lie or be genuinely ignorant.
Re: No One Noticed Intergalactic's Hidden Naughty Dog Easter Egg
@TrollOfWar I’m gonna blow your mind with this one but…
Men and women are inherently different. They both seek, feel and act differently. They both serve different roles and functions in society, which is a good thing. Men are naturally hunters, fighters, providers. Women are naturally lovers, caretakers, supporters. There’s absolutely flexibility in the joints here, the roles aren’t set in stone and both men and women can drift around in these roles. But Biology is undefeated and these are the roles that we’re predisposed to and have proved successful for millions of years. Modern society finding these natural roles offensive instead of empowering genuinely confuses me. Statistically, studies and data show that the more society rejects these traditional roles, the less happy they actually are.
That point aside, let me go back to the actual discussion here, which is female characterization. I will always motion to Ripley from Alien and Sarah Conner from Terminator. Incredibly strong characters with fantastic development but also not girl bosses. No male pop culture fan alive hates them, yet they’re strong. The reason? They’re vulnerable with flaws yet still become strong and overcome. AKA they’re actually well written characters who happen to be women instead of a neo-liberal post-modern idea of what a “strong female character” should be. Connors in particular finds her strength in being a mother, the most female-empowering thing there is, instead of some sense of trying to out-men other men.
Re: PS5 Will Reveal the Most Played Games with Steam-Like Player Numbers
But wait a minute. Reliable journalists and YTubers wrote think pieces and made videos about how things player counts and data like this are weaponized against games like Marathon or Concord.
Re: No One Noticed Intergalactic's Hidden Naughty Dog Easter Egg
@wildcat_kickz Fair enough. It’s just hard when, as a consumer of media for last ten years or so where this has been an issue with how female characters have been written, to see certain trends and have that gut reaction.
Re: No One Noticed Intergalactic's Hidden Naughty Dog Easter Egg
@wildcat_kickz I have no issues with a strongly written female character. In the first Horizon, Aloy was fantastically written. Same with Ellie in TLOU. I can cite numerous other examples. It’s about creating a character who is allowed to fail, be wrong, grow, etc.
But we also have the “girl boss” tropes that have been prevalent in all levels of entertainment over the last ten years or so and it’s easy to sniff it out. They’re always the strongest, they’re never wrong and maybe worst of all, they’re boring.