DadJKP

This has all been a game of "face-tattoo syndrome" and escalation.

First, you have the readily available data that, yes, YouTubers and content creators have used to create their content and celebrate the demise or failure of certain games but also just produce their content/news.

Then, you have other content creators and gaming media folks condemning the use of the data (face-tattoo syndrome), as its being used in "bad faith" (aka not the way they approve it being used) and the escalation begins.

Finally you have the people who began all this creating this website (which yes, is pretty sad and pathetic in all honesty) as a pushback. Then the escalation just goes on and on.

TL:DR: The people creating this site are indeed sad but have every right to project the data and the gaming media is likewise sad by coming across as shills taking cover for the publishers whose data is being reported on. Everyone comes across as sad.

FromSoftware: You either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

There’s been scuttlebutt for years that PlayStation Japan is getting tired of Western PlayStation’s ****. I don’t see how Hulst’s leadership, decisions like this and the reaction don’t add gasoline on that fire.

@dskatter I’ve basically concluded I’m grabbing a Steam Machine once they come out.

Been a PS player since 1998 but I’m legitimately running out of reasons to keep supporting PS. Looks like PS5 may be my last system and the Steam Machine is my future.

Glad to see so many people finally understand what a loon this guy is. I’m glad I figured it out in the mid-late 2000s when he said, and I’m paraphrasing a bit but not much, “the scariest thing to me is the possibility of me and my kids living near conservatives”. The idea that you can’t even fathom existing around others whose ideas are different showed me how thick he was.

Wall-e for PS2 is a low-key banger

Just put 1-3 on PS5. Just do it.

Also what’s with the huge lady with a handicapped leg moving faster than Sonic the Hedgehog?

Literally looks like a game that lives in a world we’re people thought Concord was a success.

@charliecarrot I did not say my opinion on any of that, I simply presented to you the main reasons people gave for not wanting to purchase the game. That’s all.

If people enjoyed it, I’m happy for them. It had a modest budget compared to other 1st party so all it had to do was be was decently successful to make a profit. I think both “sides” of this are sad quite frankly.

The loud internet voices side ended up being, at best, mostly wrong about this game’s “failure”. Also the side of “the chuds were wrong” got a “win” for once and the laughter and gloating just comes across as sad.

The world is not the internet, a lot of people own PS5s, they saw a “cool looking samurai game” and bought it. Very few people bought it to “own the chuds” and very few people didn’t buy it “out of protest”. Most people just either bought it or didn’t because they’re normal people making normal decisions.

Personally, I don’t want to support the lead actress so that’s why I didn’t purchase but that’s just me . I also think continuing Jin’s story would have had more success and it was money left on the table but that’s just speculation on my part.

We are OFK being on this list unironically is wild

@SeaDaVie

You misunderstand me. I am not referring to the Japan side of Playstation being displeased with crunch. I am referring to them being displeased with another botched/disappointing release from one of the Western studios.

I am of two minds here.

First, real art requires hard work and sacrifice. It’s always a personal question of how much of a toll you want to pay. Employees should be treated fairly of course but also real art requires more than standard expectations. However, MANDATORY crunch? That’s shaky ground.

Second, is this going to be another example of Western Sony developers letting the brand down? And if so, when will the Japan side decide enough is enough?

@Oram77 the correct grammar is “what was he meant to do?”

Also the ending of GoT clearly set him up as someone whose message would spread. The fact that SP let that go to focus on this story in particular is ridiculous and the way people cope with that is getting ridiculous as well.

@Oram77 you mean the one cutscene where it’s an animated cliff notes version of his story? And how he was “never heard from again”? Yeah I’m aware.

@The_Wailing_Doom No, and whoever is telling you this is selling you a bill of goods. Some people are justifiably upset that SP threw Jin in the trash for a typical “strong female protagonist”, but this was not the root of the boycott. I was personally planning on buying the game because I loved Tsushima and I love SP.

99.9% of the boycotts were focused on the dev team member who trivialized political assassinations and, even though SP let them go, several other dev members liked and boosted the post but kept their jobs. But, because that’s a harder boycott to morally make fun of, people with agendas will tell you it’s because of all the “ists” who were scared to play as a female character.

@PuppetMaster the fact you monitor and track my comments is sad man. There’s more to life than “owning the chuds”

In terms of PlayStation, it’s not an incorrect assessment. Name the last PS exclusive that made a (positive) industry-wide impact. It would be Helldivers 2 but that’s not exclusive anymore. Nintendo is a unique special beast, they’re the exception and not the rule.

Again, what are the actual sale numbers? All this article shows are overall game revenue, led by ANOTHER game, and we’re told:

“Well Yotei came out this month and the month showed growth compared to last year so that means it’s selling awesome”

So, again, what are the SPECIFIC sale numbers?

I’ve been a PS gamer since 1998 and I love the brand but it’s getting a little sad how much people are willing to fall on the sword for this game.

EDIT; Also inb4 “it’s sad so many grifters are trying to smear the game hurhur”

I’ll readily admit that as much as I adored GoT, I’m skipping Yotei. So it could be a banger that deserves all the credit. Simply based on what I do know and what I have seen though, I’m not sure what is here is worth the fierce defense a lot of Sony fans are giving it,

@PuppetMaster No they're not. The game launched softly no matter how the data is actually spun, it has ZERO resonance right now outside of PS fanboys and it will be a footnote in a few years when people ask "What was the name of that Ghost of Tsushima sequel? Ghost of Yoplait or something?"

No actual real concrete sales numbers are out (which if there was something to brag about you know there would be bragging) and Sony has already started winding down online adverts for the game.

So no, sorry, no one is wailing or gnashing their teeth at being "owned" by this article.

That headline ain't saying much since Spider-Man 2 lost 40% of the sales of the first Spider-Man game. But hey, when a game launches soft I guess you gotta make chicken salad out of chicken **** somehow.

@0niguy the difference is that Nintendo, while using the same IPs consistently, always seeks to put a new spin on the gameplay.

Yes. I wish we had more PS1/PS2 era style PS exclusives

I hope people enjoy it but I just can’t bring myself to monetarily support the game.

I adored the first Ghost and I love SP’s catalogue of games.

I hate that I just can’t support this one.

Stars a guy and girl? So is it a romance game?

@Ultrasmiles some people just want to watch the world burn

Though, a Carmelita Fox spin-off could be fun

@12AngryCats correct

Sounds perfect. Give a small budget to that 10% and let em work.

I know a lot of people here don't like Pachter and will defend Sony no matter what but hey, a blind squirrel CAN find an acorn every now and then.

Regardless of the source, nothing he is saying is incorrect. Current Sony cares less about innovation and good games and more about profits and positioning the right "message"

Put aside the source and put aside any fanboyism, and actually marinate on what he says. I've been a PS gamer since 1998 and nothing in these quotes rings false to me.

The editorializing in this article really comes across as someone coming to the defense of “m’lady”, which happens to be a corporation in this case.

They’re just jokes.

Please, for love of everything, make an interesting and artistically unique game that focuses on story and fun over messaging and fidelity.

Astro Bot was a big hit for a reason. Because THAT is what PlayStation fans became fans of. The original God of War (2005) and Last of Us were great when they released because they were part of the PlayStation line-up that included so many other unique experiences. Now? Every game has to be 3rd person, high fidelity, probably open or semi-open world with some type of diverse protagonist and collectibles all over.

Dare to be different. Dare to be what PlayStation ACTUALLY is.

Several things can be true at once:

1. It is horrendous and gut-punching for people to lose a job and it has nothing to do with their behavior.

2. Yes, businesses/corporations care most about money. However it is also important to remember it is that same money that allows them to finance and attempt to create the games we play. Some publishers obviously do this better (and more morally) better than others but this is the way it works.

3. The proof of the pudding is in the tasting. Yes, gaming is more profitable than ever but is that for EVERY game? No, of course not. Several games flop and for a variety of reasons. It has to do with talent and the way that talent is managed as well. I’m not trying to shill for anyone but I do wonder why most of this only seems to happen in Western developers and publishers? Hmmm.

I’ll take a Rule of Rose remake for $400, Alex

@SeaDaVie

Monetarily, sure. Playstation is killing it. But, if we’re honest brokers here, we have to admit Playstation is succeeding IN SPITE of itself, not because of itself. There are many possibly reasons to this, such as Xbox falling as a competitor, but either way it’s the reality.

At some point, bad decisions are bad decisions and will tip the scale. The seeds planted right now have to eventually bloom and when they do, Playstation will have to answer for them.

We are currently in a generation where Microsoft has outpaced Sony in significant game releases on PlayStation. PlayStation fans can see this as a victory, that we get the milk without marrying the cow so to speak, but I personally see it as sad and unsustainable.