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Great, now make it permanent. I do 90% of my online gaming on PC. Having to pay a fee to play online on the playstation is just tedious. I'm not interested in the monthly games and originally that was what PS+ was for on PS3.

It's like a crap pc that can't be upgraded, and is weaker than a 5 year old console and costs more... Who is this for? I'll stick with my current PC and consoles, thanks.

Have a PS5 for the exclusives and just do everything else on PC, it's just a better experience.

Grinding for materiels and the slow as hell story killed this for me. Doing the same crap over and over to be able to level up characters so they're useful is slow and boring, and the story pacing is poor, slow cutscenes that don' just get on with it.

Why are so many morons saying good or about time or they should have done this ages ago? People are still buying games for it and using it, so why should any services be deprecated? Not like they're putting masses of resources towards this.

@dodgykebaab
Yeah pretty much. Though I have bought physical versions of games just cause they were cheaper too. And with stuff like the GTA trilogy that I got dirt cheap on Xbox, with the smart delivery thing it's the Xbox One versions on disc, it had to download the Series X version.

@ButterySmooth30FPS
Yep, double the microscopic production costs.

@MrPeanutbutterz I don't want to skip it, I just don't want small progress to take hours. Games should be fun not work. Forza Horizon is the opposite end, being too generous with cash, but at least there's tons of different race modes available very early on.

@DonkeyFantasy If 5 hours into a game doesn't let you pick any one of the tracks to drive your car on, that sucks. The FACT is you need to spend a good while unlocking the tracks. The FACT is a lot of the cars cost a huge amount. The FACT is most races don't pay much and it would take a long time to get enough credits just to buy one of the pricy cars. The FACT is they sell you ingame currency in what was a full priced game. Yeah, I'm right mate.

@DonkeyFantasy Of course they would be an issue. Grinding on the game for hours on end to have the money to buy 1 car that costs a fortune is no fun at all. A whole bunch of them are priced stupidly high and I don't wanna waste my life grinding through races for hours to buy a car in a game. Unlocking all the tracks doesn't take no time at all cause you have to do all the cafe missions, which for the most part are slow and boring to progress. With how open and free games are these days this feels like some 90's crap where they have you go down a specific path to unlocking things instead of letting it be open to choice like most racers are now. And no, you can't pick any car and drive it on any track for the exact reasons I mentioned. There's no arcade mode like the classic games, cars have to be bought or won to use and tracks need to be unlocked. No I didn't want cars just thrown at me like Forza, but I also didn't want it to be a slow grind with in game prices purposefully inflated to push people into buying credits.

I've probably only put about 5 hours into this since I got it like 3 years ago.

I assume you still can't just pick one of your cars and race it around any track you want? Still gotta go through all the cafe missions to unlock tracks? Are cars still expensive and the prizes still small, with in game currency being purchasable with real world money?

@carlos82 Then don't use it.

@lazarus11 Are you using a 3rd party pad or something? It's not too light, it doesn't feel cheap, it's good and solid. And unlike PS pads I've not had any thumbsticks get drift yet.

@lazarus11 Wat? The Xbox pad is great. Comfier than the Dualsense, and battery lasts 5 times longer.

@carlos82 Right, but given it's something games need to support, its use case is obvious. I don't see anyone using this in CP2077.
And downclocking your cpu and gpu user less power even in less demanding games. If the PS5 is running high clocks all the time even running easier stuff then this makes sense to cut it back.

@carlos82 Because it won't be worse performance? As I said it's for low powered games where you don't need the machine running at full clocks. Hollow Knight or Stardew Valley aren't exactly demanding, so why not drop the clocks and save some power?

@carlos82 For playing PS6 portable games on PS5, so it doesn't use as much power?

Only seems useful for more basic games that don't need as much power, and parity with PS6 handheld games.

Let's get into it!
First game is mediocre and overpriced.. lol.

They're just ok, especially considering the price increase for these "free" games, as you call them. And how throwing a few decent ones in doesn't excuse all the rubbish added to pad it out.

Couldn't give a toss. If you actually have strong feelings about this going to Xbox and don't want it to happen... Go for a walk, smell the plants, look at the birds, and realise what you're wasting your time whining about.

@graymamba Why would they? If it can look like that on a PS5 then it will be able to look just as good in a higher res on a midrange pc. Not much to complain about there.

Be interesting to see how this turns out. If it looks like that and runs at 60, I'm guessing it will be 1080p at best on the base PS5, and 1440p on PS5 Pro. Shudder to think what the Series S will run it like.. 540p lol

@Nexozi "Switch 2 with 1 game and less power than an Xbox series S will never be able to match playing on PS5 / PS5 Pro"

That's not a preference lol, that's your inner fanboy showing. But sure, try and change the direction of your comment.

The main selling point of the Switch is the Nintendo games. Lots of us hardly use it portable, like me. Playing it on a big ass OLED is much better. Funny you say the Switch won't run games like GOW and Tsushima. They're both on PS4, and Switch 2 absolutely can run PS4 level games.

Funny again how you're trying to change the narrative into me hating nice graphics and I don't allow others to have other opinions when I'm the one who said games can be great regardless of if the graphics are good or not, that doesn't mean I don't like good graphics. And also pointing out your whining about the Switch 2, you're the one having the limited opinion of what to play. And hilarious that you say I'm not the main character lol. Have you heard of projecting? Cause it's what you're doing right there. Oh and congrats on liking your own comment lol. But hey at least you said you'll ignore me now, so that's good. I'd hate to be associated with someone like you with such a closed mind and hypocritical word bending manipulative ways.

@Nexozi You just argued that Switch 2 can't match playing a PS5 on TV cause it's less powerful lol. You're literally arguing better graphics = better to play. And what hassle? I install a game on my PC and play lol. And yes, you are confused. You argued that more power = better to play, so I pointed out that my more powerful PC doesn't mean the games will be more fun to play than on my PS5. Forget dumb takes you apparently can't understand any take lol. PS5 launched with loads of multiplat ports just like Switch 2. The only exclusives it got were Sackboy, which is kinda good, Astro's Playroom, which is awesome but not a full game, and Miles Morales, which is super short and kinda bland. Hell Demon Souls was probably the best game at launch, and that was just a remake of an old game. I'm enjoying this launch much more than the PS5 launch.

@Nexozi dumb take. gameplay wins over graphics every time. And Nintendo games are a lot of fun.
My PC absolutely decimates my PS5. Hell it decimates a PS5 Pro. Does that mean playing on PS5 can never match playing on my PC cause the games look prettier and have a higher framerate?
Also new consoles don't start with a massive library. I'm sure this is news to everyone. At least a bunch of past games got free patches to look and run better, and the 2 Zelda updates that add new features. MKW might be the only exclusive I care about right now but that's fine, it's awesome. What did PS5 have at launch to care about? Astro's Playroom? lol.

I've been loving playing Mario Kart World and Tears of the Kingdom with the new update and my old phone propped up next to me running the companion app, while staring at my 48" LG OLED. My PS5 hasn't been turned on in a week, and that was just cause my nephew wanted to play Teardown ha ha.

So someone was like yeaaah I can finally play this game... With her looking pregnant.

What?

@twitchtvpat I'm not claiming they said or suggested it. I'm saying it just plain sucks that it doesn't. Especially when the competition does.

Funny how PS3 had loads of media functionality and BC with PS2 (at first) and PS1. PS5 can't even play music CDs. Can no longer stream my music from DLNA server like I could with PS3 and PS4. And back compat is just PS4 or go buy the games again on the digital store, and no native PS3 emu.
It's pretty poor. They could have had full PS1 and PS2 back compat using discs, they could have done select PS3 games that could actually be emulated on PS5. But no.

Meanwhile Xbox at least tries with various stuff. I have assorted original Xbox, Xbox 360 and Xbox One games on disc that work on the Series X. It's not perfect, as many don't work. But it's better than nothing. And various games get their FPS boost mode and Resolution boost mode too.

It will be 30fps with drops on standard PS5 I'm guessing. And more stable 30fps on pro. A 40fps mode would be nice but I wouldn't count on it. Deffo no 60fps. PS5 Pro is still using an underclocked Zen2 CPU from 2019 after all. Will have to wait the expected extra year for it to come to PC to attempt 60.

I mean.. Yeah? They want some ROI and that wasn't gonna happen with it only being on PS5, hence the PC version. Will probably come to Xbox eventually too.

@Frmknst We talking your IQ, or..?

8. If they could fix the 20 year old bugs it would be a 9. Looks beautiful with the upgrades and has some great quests in there I remember playing on the 360 in 2006. I hear performance is weak ok consoles and weaker PCs. I'm playing medium/high using 4k dlss and it's usually 60 except for various areas in the overworld and stutters here and there. Is very beautiful in places.

People keep going on about Balatro being good, but I don't think it's my type of game. I'll give it a go though, but doubt it will catch me. Don't care about the other 2 though.

@MrPeanutbutterz its a new release of an old game, that's a fact. I'm not asking why the price is high, I'm simply saying I'm disappointed that it still is this much for the standard price after all this time.

@MrPeanutbutterz How so? I've said I'm surprised it still costs this much after 3.5 years, and a bunch of you have tried to defend the high price. That's not presenting facts when the topic at hand is my opinion on the price, that's just repeatedly stating it's high priced.

@MrPeanutbutterz Okay so you are in fact being deliberately argumentative. Cool.

@SMJ It's a shame 1 and 2 never came to PC. At least you can play 1 in 4k on Series X and One X, but only in 30fps. But FH2 being stuck in 1080p30 purgatory just sucks. Probably had my favourite map of any of them with the winding mountain roads of Italy and France. And yet no res boost or fps boost on Series X, and no PC version. Just sucks.

@Godot25 Yes same price on Xbox store, but with an option to play it for dirt cheap with gamepass. And yeah a lot of the people that have been wanting it for years will jump on, but a bunch of others won't when they see it still costs that much after all this time, and there's no other cheaper way for PS owners. It's never gonna come to game catalogue.

The Xbox version is still £55 which is crazy, but it's been in multiple Xbox sales over the years. Since 2023 it's popped up for £27.49 in about 14 different sales. It's been £24.99 in multiple steam sales too.

I reckon if it is in a PS sale, it won't be any time soon.
The fact that it's in the charts shows how desperate PS owners were for a game like this, since the existing PS ones like The Crew Motorfest and TDU Solar Crown are kinda crappy.

Pity they didn't bring FH4 to the PS5, it's the better game.

@Godot25 You're baffled why someone would be surprised that after 3.5 years this game is still £55? I mean with Xbox they probably keep it high as they want people to be on a sub instead of buying. But for PS5 I'd expect it to at least be a bit lower to lure people in.

@MrPeanutbutterz New to playstation =/= a new game. Where do you draw the line? If they put Forza Horizon 4 on PS5 I suppose you'd be fine with that being full priced cause it's new to PS5 owners, right?

@Godot25 I have played it through gamepass, many times. That's the point, there's no cheaper path of entry with the PS5 version, and that sucks. Pointing that out doesn't mean you need to get all whiny about it.

@MrPeanutbutterz That's kinda the point there kiddo. PC and Xbox have gamepass which lets you play it dirt cheap, or cheap steam keys. PS5 has no other option.

@Godot25 Right, it's overpriced on their store too, but it's on gamepass so you can play it for dirt cheap, no such option on PS5.

@BleedingDreamer It's still a 3.5 year old game. The price on all official stores is still too high. £55 on the PS store is crazy when I can buy a steam key for £25.

Biggest issue with this game is the cost, after 3.5 years. At least I played it on PC with Gamepass way back when. But seeing it arrive now with this high price is pretty wild.

2nd best maybe.

Did you pull that 5GB RAM figure from thin air? Leaks of the mainboard and devs say it's 12GB. As if it would only be 5.

She kinda looks like a 15 year old foetus. Never changes. But also who cares, people like her acting, so..