@Blacknun No not early. All the features they're releasing now aren't necessary but based on player feedback. Refight bosses, enemies taking over strong holds, hide shields etc.
These are features that don't even exist in other open world games. Pearl Abyss is just implemented them because it's what people want.
@JB_Whiting
He's right though. If RB + Triangle is too complex for some people. The problem isn't the game.
@Mythologue
So you haven't played it? Thought so. Go play Nioh 3 for a terrible story.
@Fartingale Funny because I've only been doing puzzle quests, strong hold clearing, defeat boss quests and exploring all the unique caves and dungeons.
As an open world game it's unique in that I still haven't seen a recycled cave in my 90 hours of play and every boss is unique. Meanwhile games like Skyrim or Elden Ring have you exploring the same recycled dungeons and fighting the same recycled bosses over and over.
@lazarus11 Yeah, remember when Black Myth was successful and people were like "oh it doesn't matter because it's only Chinese gamers and the game is Chinese mythology so of course they buy it and rate it highly, oh and the Steam player count remains high for it because they get good credit score for playing it, oh and those 7.5 million sales throughout the rest of the world are CCP agents." Some people just refused to accept it was a good game.
If anything I'd value the opinions of Asian gamers over Western ones as they typically do complain a lot more about bugs, poor performance and poor performance. Westerners I'm not so sure of as they praise genuine broken games (i.e Cyberpunk, Bethesda games etc which BTW still have thousands of bugs years later) and say the glitches and game breaking bugs are a feature.
While I have some criticisms about this game such as the story and dialogue being not very good, a lot of the hate seems to come from people misinformed about the game or who are deliberately lying for an agenda. I don't know what that could be but there were a lot of people at release saying you're forced to do life sim stuff like fishing and cutting trees for 8 hours in the first chapter to progress the game. None of that is true, so these people are either misinformed, lying or they literally aren't very smart and started doing optional stuff thinking it was the main quest instead of following the actual main quest which is made very obvious. Chapter 1 has you do 5 mundane tasks that takes 10 minutes max (arm wrestling, catch a cat, untie woman in sewers, give coin to begger and clean the chimney), then you do the abyss puzzle. That's it, done. If anyone genuinely took 8 hours doing that then that's more a testament to something going on in their mind than anything else...
But hey, it's their lost. Crimson Desert's open world is genuinely one of the best and puts the open worlds of games like RDR2, Elden Ring and Bugthesda games to shame. It's not empty like RDR2 and unlike ER and Bugthesda games, it doesn't recycle every dungeon and cave. Oh and the gameplay is better since it's not just one button spam.
@soy Monster Hunter Wilds ran like garbage on release which is why the criticism existed. Poor optimisation is something to complain about and Capcom only loses money in the long run from that.
@Odium Pretty sure it's only that long if you explore everywhere and do everything. Storywise, it's supposed to be 60 hours for the average player which is pretty standard for an open world RPG.
Can't speak for the PS5 version but on PC, this game is fully optimised and I have it on cinematic settings.
Meanwhile Nioh 3 required frame generation for me to even reach 60 FPS, had PS2 graphics and PS1 pop in.
All I can say is, I'm glad Pearl Abyss actually optimised the game for PC.
A lot of the hate for this game seems largely manufactured or made up. All that talk about complex impossible controls and the controls in the end are less complex than Nioh.
And I have no idea who took 8 hours to get out of chapter 1. Some people online were making out you just go around being forced to do random things for that long. I finished Chapter 1 in 40 minutes and the random missions there like catching a cat, giving money to a begger or cleaning a chimney take like 10 minutes max.
I think this game really separates casual players who enjoy one button combat like Skyrim or Elden Ring from skilled ones as apparently having special attacks mapped to using RB plus X or Y, Y+B to grab etc is apparently too complex for some people. Those people would probably throw a fit playing any Nioh or Monster Hunter game...
Nah it's a valid point and so is the other argument. LGBT is all about saying "love is love, consenting adults" so the idea of the same people being opposed to second cousins in a relationship is a bit ironic.
The risk of birth defects is 2-3% in unrelated couples, in second cousins, it's 2-3.5% according to the National Institutes of Health so barely higher. Either way, it's actually something that's common in some cultures and countries so all this talk is kinda just an argument from disgust or weirdness. But it's probably less harmful than prescribing children puberty blockers or performing certain sexual acts which led NHS doctors in 2022 to report upon the rise of bowel problems and STIs for that reason.
@PeteyPiranha Crimson Desert is currently sitting at 79% by Steam user reviews (most likely to rise to over 80 soon). Dragon's Dogma 2 is at 67%. The consensus seems to be that Crimson Desert is better, runs better and will also be supported in the long run.
Dragon's Dogma 2 is still plagued by poor performance and the player base has largely abandoned the game.
@Kraven @Yor-sama
Nah, he's right. This game has glaring issues which is why it's rated lower than the first.
@themaladroit So they gave her a taste of her own medicine? I remember she said the developers of Black Myth Wukong were crying at the Game Awards only for an IGN journalist named Charles Young to come out and say they were literally sat next to the devs the whole time and never saw that.
In any case, never heard of "Pirat_nation" and they seem as random and irrelevant as Alanah since neither of them are game industry analysts or experts so why even the article? This is just social media nonsense.
@crossbit No, AI slop describes it perfectly for completely butchering the artstyle by making these changes.
@Dorkthrone
It's very obvious what he's arguing about: The artstyle change. This is just applying a yassifaction filter that ruins the original look and design of characters.
@nicugoalkeper Nobody is buying Crimson Desert just because it looks good graphically. There's been extensive gameplay videos showcasing what the game is about which is why people are buying it.
There seems to be negativity on this site from some people towards this game, a lot largely related to performance but PC performance seems great according to everything thus far.
Makes me hyped for the game all the more as this developer is finally not giving us PC players a poor optimised port, in fact this game seems made for PC first and foremost.
Hopefully it shows Capcom and Team Ninja how to actually make open world games for PC because both Dragon's Dogma 2, Monster Hunter Wilds, Rise of the Ronin and Nioh 3 are pathetically poorly optimised and the later two are embarrassingly two gens behind that you ponder why.
@RoomWithaMoose
Or it'll be great.
@Dalamar Such as? Apart from Zelda, this is the only other open world game attempting new things.
@3Above Elden Ring wasn't even the next BOTW. That's something Crimson Desert is better compared to. Elden Ring didn't attempt anything new for open world games.
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Re: Crimson Desert Sells 5 Million Copies in Less Than a Month
@Blacknun No not early. All the features they're releasing now aren't necessary but based on player feedback. Refight bosses, enemies taking over strong holds, hide shields etc.
These are features that don't even exist in other open world games. Pearl Abyss is just implemented them because it's what people want.
@JB_Whiting
He's right though. If RB + Triangle is too complex for some people. The problem isn't the game.
@Mythologue
So you haven't played it? Thought so. Go play Nioh 3 for a terrible story.
Re: Crimson Desert Sells 5 Million Copies in Less Than a Month
@Fartingale Funny because I've only been doing puzzle quests, strong hold clearing, defeat boss quests and exploring all the unique caves and dungeons.
As an open world game it's unique in that I still haven't seen a recycled cave in my 90 hours of play and every boss is unique. Meanwhile games like Skyrim or Elden Ring have you exploring the same recycled dungeons and fighting the same recycled bosses over and over.
Re: This GTA-Inspired Anime Open World Deserves a Place on Your PS5, But Maybe Not Your Pre-Order
@LifeGirl There's plenty of young people who aren't interested in these gacha type games or anime games in general. I'm one of them.
Re: Major Crimson Desert Patch Out Now on PS5, Makes Countless Gameplay Improvements
@lazarus11 Yeah, remember when Black Myth was successful and people were like "oh it doesn't matter because it's only Chinese gamers and the game is Chinese mythology so of course they buy it and rate it highly, oh and the Steam player count remains high for it because they get good credit score for playing it, oh and those 7.5 million sales throughout the rest of the world are CCP agents." Some people just refused to accept it was a good game.
If anything I'd value the opinions of Asian gamers over Western ones as they typically do complain a lot more about bugs, poor performance and poor performance. Westerners I'm not so sure of as they praise genuine broken games (i.e Cyberpunk, Bethesda games etc which BTW still have thousands of bugs years later) and say the glitches and game breaking bugs are a feature.
While I have some criticisms about this game such as the story and dialogue being not very good, a lot of the hate seems to come from people misinformed about the game or who are deliberately lying for an agenda. I don't know what that could be but there were a lot of people at release saying you're forced to do life sim stuff like fishing and cutting trees for 8 hours in the first chapter to progress the game. None of that is true, so these people are either misinformed, lying or they literally aren't very smart and started doing optional stuff thinking it was the main quest instead of following the actual main quest which is made very obvious. Chapter 1 has you do 5 mundane tasks that takes 10 minutes max (arm wrestling, catch a cat, untie woman in sewers, give coin to begger and clean the chimney), then you do the abyss puzzle. That's it, done. If anyone genuinely took 8 hours doing that then that's more a testament to something going on in their mind than anything else...
But hey, it's their lost. Crimson Desert's open world is genuinely one of the best and puts the open worlds of games like RDR2, Elden Ring and Bugthesda games to shame. It's not empty like RDR2 and unlike ER and Bugthesda games, it doesn't recycle every dungeon and cave. Oh and the gameplay is better since it's not just one button spam.
Re: Pragmata's Uncanny New York Stage Was Meticulously Crafted By Humans to Look AI-Generated
@soy Monster Hunter Wilds ran like garbage on release which is why the criticism existed. Poor optimisation is something to complain about and Capcom only loses money in the long run from that.
Re: Pragmata's Uncanny New York Stage Was Meticulously Crafted By Humans to Look AI-Generated
@Odium Pretty sure it's only that long if you explore everywhere and do everything. Storywise, it's supposed to be 60 hours for the average player which is pretty standard for an open world RPG.
Re: Crimson Desert (PS5) - A Generational Open World Buried in Early Access Cruft
Can't speak for the PS5 version but on PC, this game is fully optimised and I have it on cinematic settings.
Meanwhile Nioh 3 required frame generation for me to even reach 60 FPS, had PS2 graphics and PS1 pop in.
All I can say is, I'm glad Pearl Abyss actually optimised the game for PC.
A lot of the hate for this game seems largely manufactured or made up. All that talk about complex impossible controls and the controls in the end are less complex than Nioh.
And I have no idea who took 8 hours to get out of chapter 1. Some people online were making out you just go around being forced to do random things for that long. I finished Chapter 1 in 40 minutes and the random missions there like catching a cat, giving money to a begger or cleaning a chimney take like 10 minutes max.
I think this game really separates casual players who enjoy one button combat like Skyrim or Elden Ring from skilled ones as apparently having special attacks mapped to using RB plus X or Y, Y+B to grab etc is apparently too complex for some people. Those people would probably throw a fit playing any Nioh or Monster Hunter game...
Re: 'Man, So That's Where They Went with It, Huh?': Street Fighter 6's Incestuous New Storyline Stuns Original Dev
@naruball @ShadowofSparta
Nah it's a valid point and so is the other argument. LGBT is all about saying "love is love, consenting adults" so the idea of the same people being opposed to second cousins in a relationship is a bit ironic.
The risk of birth defects is 2-3% in unrelated couples, in second cousins, it's 2-3.5% according to the National Institutes of Health so barely higher. Either way, it's actually something that's common in some cultures and countries so all this talk is kinda just an argument from disgust or weirdness. But it's probably less harmful than prescribing children puberty blockers or performing certain sexual acts which led NHS doctors in 2022 to report upon the rise of bowel problems and STIs for that reason.
Re: Rumour: Dragon's Dogma 2 DLC Heavily Hinted at in 2nd Anniversary Artwork
@PeteyPiranha Crimson Desert is currently sitting at 79% by Steam user reviews (most likely to rise to over 80 soon). Dragon's Dogma 2 is at 67%. The consensus seems to be that Crimson Desert is better, runs better and will also be supported in the long run.
Dragon's Dogma 2 is still plagued by poor performance and the player base has largely abandoned the game.
@Kraven @Yor-sama
Nah, he's right. This game has glaring issues which is why it's rated lower than the first.
Re: Bizarre PlayStation PC Launcher Rumours Rubbished as Reporter Doubles Down on No More PS5 Ports
@themaladroit So they gave her a taste of her own medicine? I remember she said the developers of Black Myth Wukong were crying at the Game Awards only for an IGN journalist named Charles Young to come out and say they were literally sat next to the devs the whole time and never saw that.
In any case, never heard of "Pirat_nation" and they seem as random and irrelevant as Alanah since neither of them are game industry analysts or experts so why even the article? This is just social media nonsense.
Re: 'This Looks Like an AI Generated Dating Profile Picture': Nvidia's Attempt to P*ss on PS5 Pro's Parade with DLSS 5 Backfires
@crossbit No, AI slop describes it perfectly for completely butchering the artstyle by making these changes.
@Dorkthrone
It's very obvious what he's arguing about: The artstyle change. This is just applying a yassifaction filter that ruins the original look and design of characters.
Re: 'This Looks Like an AI Generated Dating Profile Picture': Nvidia's Attempt to P*ss on PS5 Pro's Parade with DLSS 5 Backfires
@nicugoalkeper Nobody is buying Crimson Desert just because it looks good graphically. There's been extensive gameplay videos showcasing what the game is about which is why people are buying it.
Re: Opinion: Crimson Desert Could Be PS5 Game of the Year, or a Total Mess
There seems to be negativity on this site from some people towards this game, a lot largely related to performance but PC performance seems great according to everything thus far.
Makes me hyped for the game all the more as this developer is finally not giving us PC players a poor optimised port, in fact this game seems made for PC first and foremost.
Hopefully it shows Capcom and Team Ninja how to actually make open world games for PC because both Dragon's Dogma 2, Monster Hunter Wilds, Rise of the Ronin and Nioh 3 are pathetically poorly optimised and the later two are embarrassingly two gens behind that you ponder why.
@RoomWithaMoose
Or it'll be great.
@Dalamar Such as? Apart from Zelda, this is the only other open world game attempting new things.
@3Above Elden Ring wasn't even the next BOTW. That's something Crimson Desert is better compared to. Elden Ring didn't attempt anything new for open world games.