I agree with you, Sammy, that the Share button is the greatest innovation of this generation in terms of utilization, but if we're talking potential - even missed or rarely used potential - I'd have to say the Wii U gamepad. It hardly ever got used well, but the few times it did, it really shined: ZombiU, NintendoLand, and even the relatively minimal use in Xenoblade Chronicles made the experience feel just a little more unique.
For actual utilization, though? You're spot on with the Share button. I only wish that the touch pad on the Dual Shock 4, the touch screen on the Wii U gamepad, and the touch pad on the back of the Vita had been properly utilized. The enhanced Kinect, too, but I never had a whole lot of hope for Kinect if we're being honest. This had the potential to a generation of amazing innovations, but it was a huge missed opportunity.
@kyleforrester87 How much extra would it be to import it? I don't know about going your way, but it only costs me around $10 extra to import a game from the UK (which I did for Zombie Army Trilogy and Wolfenstein: The Old Blood).
This is one of my favorite series BECAUSE it's so stupid and embraces it. The god awful framerate is actually charming for me and my friends (even if annoying at time), but I'll be looking forward to playing this (I've had it since Tuesday, but I'm waiting for a college buddy to visit on Saturday to actually start playing it).
I LOVED this game on PS3 - preordered the collector's edition. I won't be picking it up for PS4 unless there's a physical release, but for QuanticDreams' style, it's a great release.
Why? I loved it on Wii U, but it just felt empty on Xbox One (I haven't played it on PS4, but I imagine it's the same game). It was built for the Wii U's gamepad, and it worked well with it. Why are they giving a gutted port into which they put half-hearted effort with minimal enhancements on a disc now? Did it actually sell well digitally?
@Neolit Ah, I stand corrected then. I was always under the impression that it sold poorly since I hardly ever saw software developed for it. Thanks for correcting me.
They'll have a hard time selling this, I think. Playstation Move and the Xbox 360 Kinect didn't do especially well, and I think Playstation VR will do about the same with sales - okay but not great. I, however, plan to pre-order as soon as I can.
@sonicmeerkat No, it's just the end of its life span. The NES had a 6 year life span; the SNES had a 5 year life span; the N64 had a 5 year life span; the Gamecube had a 5 year life span; the Wii had a 6 year life span; and if they've said that they're announcing the NX in 2016, that means it will be a 2017 release, giving the Wii U a 5 year life span. It might feel short since the Wii U released a year before the PS4 and the Xbox One, but it's actually exactly on par with the console release pattern that Nintendo has always followed.
(Note that I was basing on North American release dates; the NES and SNES were staggered in terms of releasing across the globe).
I'm a pretty big fan of WayForward - I love the entire Shante and Mighty Switch Force series as well as Duck Tales Remastered - but this one does look abysmal. I've noticed that for the most part, their original titles are pretty good, but they're terrible at licensed games.
I picked this up yesterday and played a few hours last night. The game is FANTASTIC. The voice actors used aren't the most talented in the industry, but the gameplay is great, and it's MORE than worth the asking price.
A game is like a relationship; a pretty face is great and all, but if there's no substance, it won't last. Graphics are great or whatever, but there's nothing that makes it stand out. They stripped out the campaign and just put a Star Wars skin on a Battlefield game. It's just another run-of-the-mill shooter now. I might pick it up used after the price falls, but I definitely won't be paying full price for this.
I'm not just sad; I'm pissed. I mean, I understand it to a certain extent since it's not DC, but still, I'd have like to hear him in some role, even if it's not Three Dog.
I LOVED ZombiU and picked it up on launch day along with my Wii U. While the game is a lot of fun, this does look like an extremely sloppy port. From what I've seen in comparison videos, the graphics are pretty much identical (while I have no problems with the Wii U's graphical abilities, it was a launch title that's been ported to a MUCH more powerful console after 3 years; they shouldn't look the same). Add to that the loss of the second screen which, in my opinion, made the game stand out from the crowd and added a great, unique charm to it; as well as the local multiplayer - arguably the best part of the game in terms of replay value - and I'm left asking "What's the point?"
Don't get me wrong, for those who only have a PS4 or an Xbox One, I'm glad they get to the play the game, but the Wii U is definitely going to shine through as the best console to play this on. Hardware superiority or not, the game was designed specifically for Wii U; a sloppy port to another system can't top the original.
@LieutenantFatman Not much time for your money compared to most games, but nothing rips you off in the time enjoyed-to-cost ratio the way movies do. I will probably wait for it to go on sale, though.
@Matroska The dual screen set up can be used brilliantly if the developers know what they're doing. Just looked at how amazing well-made games on the 3DS and DS have used its two-screen format. The Wii U is no different. Most games don't utilize it well if at all, but that doesn't mean that it can't make games amazing.
No dual screen, no awesome local multiplayer, and the exact same launch-title visuals? Why? Why did they even bother? The gamepad is what made the game great; without that, it's just another dime-a-dozen horror game with nothing that stands out.
The gameplay's not bad, but the writing sucks serious balls. I never though I'd play a game with worse writing than the Call of Duty series, but lo and behold, Destiny's plot actually bored me more.
Only an idiot buys a game for graphics. I love stunning graphics, but graphics in a game is like story in a porno; if that's what you buy it for, then your priorities are way off. You buy a GAME for the GAMEPLAY. If you want super-stunning visuals above all else, go watch an action movie.
@Swiket It was the capitol building that I thought I recognized. Awesome. I'm so excited. Hopefully the story will involve some Commonwealth vs Enclave combat.
@Quorthon Not true. The asymmetrical gameplay, while few non-Nintendo developers have used it well, offers completely different play styles than any console before it. The multiplayer in ZombiU, NintendoLand, Call of Duty, and Hyrule Warriors prove that. With stuff like CoD and Hyrule Warriors, it doesn't reinvent the wheel, but it does improve vastly on the split-screen model, and I've never seen a local multiplayer game that works like ZombiU or NintendoLand.
@Neolit
If generation were only about pure hardware power, you'd be right in your initial view of the Wii U, but at least to those of us who have spent decades gaming on pretty much platform out there, there's more to it than that, as you mentioned.
I have a Wii U, a PS4, an Xbox One, a high-end gaming PC, a New 3DS, and a PS Vita, and each platform definitely has its own array of pros and cons. Generation is about advances in gaming, not just advances in graphics. To be sure, graphical enhancements are part of that, but the way we play games, especially these days where graphical improvements are minute at best, are the key. Even if it's not to one's personal liking - I know not everyone liked the Wii's motion control or the DS's dual screens, for example - the most important improvements in gaming these past 10 years have been how we experience the game far more so than what the game visibly looks like.
Now I will say, of course, that I LOVE the stunning graphics on the PS4 and Xbox One, but when I'm hanging out with my friends, we almost never play anything other than my Wii U; it's just the better platform for social gaming because that's its focus - not graphical prowess but bringing a new experience.
@BLPs Ohh, I misunderstood. I've seen so many fanboys harp on the Wii U for such petty reasons that I simply assumed it was meant seriously. I apologize.
@BLPs The Wii U is current gen. Its hardware is superior to the strongest last-gen console (the PS3); it is, by definition, current gen. Please put the fanboy pandering on hold and stick to constructive discussion.
I already upgraded my HDD to 1 TB, but I'll probably pick this up when I fill that up (took me about a year and a half to fill that with mostly on-disc installs, so it probably won't take more than a year or two). Does it come with a HDD, or is it just the hardware interface?
Konami is screwing itself with this. Mobile is definitely the future of portable gaming, but I really can't see it replacing consoles. Consoles sales will slow because of mobile gaming, sure, and it may soon kill off handheld gaming, but you can't have the same experience from Call of Duty, Gran Turismo, Legend of Zelda, or Super Smash Bros on a phone that you can on a console. You can get a watered down version, sure, but in an age where the Wii U is widely seen as "pathetic" for its hardware specs (disclaimer: I do NOT hold that opinion, but I know it's not an uncommon one), I can't see an iPhone replacing a Playstation 4 anytime soon.
@Neolit I agree completely. When I decided to get a Vita a few months back (finally), I specifically hunted down an original model. Since a handheld is kind of dependent on the screen, I didn't want the lower quality LCD screen on the slim.
@thedevilsjester Is it? Because the system I get the most enjoyment out of is my Wii U, and it has the smallest install base and least love from developers.
Does it really matter who sells more? Just enjoy your games, whatever your console of choice may be. I have all three, but my preference is Wii U, so that's what I buy most games for and what I play most. I don't really care that it doesn't hold a candle to Xbox One or PS4 sales; my enjoyment isn't dependent on its success relative to its competitors. The same should go for PS4 fans with this report. The console war really needs to end, yo; the only good console war was the Super Nintendo vs the Genesis, anyway.
I only pre-order Nintendo games (since they never pull bull like that anyway) and games obscure enough that I actually do worry about stock (I'm a HUGE Hyperdimension Neptunia fan, but I live in a small town with a small gaming scene, so I pre-ordered Neptunia U and Re;Birth 3 because they probably wouldn't even stock those games if I didn't).
I agree with this, though. I never pre-order AAA titles because, as many have said, there's no reason. They never run out of stock.
@Splat
That was my EXACT reaction, and honestly, it's a deal breaker for me. Between Destiny and Titanfall, this "online only" is sucking any enthusiasm I had right out. I'm thrilled that they have split screen, but the lack of a campaign ensured that I won't be pre-ordering, and unless the final product leaves me extremely impressed in other ways, I probably won't be buying it at all.
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Re: Sony: Taking Creative Risks Is What PlayStation Is All About
That's why I always prefer Playstation over Microsoft, but in terms of taking creative risks, Nintendo will always be the king.
Re: Soapbox: Why the PS4's Share Button Is the Greatest Innovation of This Generation
I agree with you, Sammy, that the Share button is the greatest innovation of this generation in terms of utilization, but if we're talking potential - even missed or rarely used potential - I'd have to say the Wii U gamepad. It hardly ever got used well, but the few times it did, it really shined: ZombiU, NintendoLand, and even the relatively minimal use in Xenoblade Chronicles made the experience feel just a little more unique.
For actual utilization, though? You're spot on with the Share button. I only wish that the touch pad on the Dual Shock 4, the touch screen on the Wii U gamepad, and the touch pad on the back of the Vita had been properly utilized. The enhanced Kinect, too, but I never had a whole lot of hope for Kinect if we're being honest. This had the potential to a generation of amazing innovations, but it was a huge missed opportunity.
Re: Store Update: 8th December 2015 (North America)
EDF! EDF! EDF!
Re: Review: Earth Defense Force 4.1: The Shadow of New Despair (PS4)
@kyleforrester87
How much extra would it be to import it? I don't know about going your way, but it only costs me around $10 extra to import a game from the UK (which I did for Zombie Army Trilogy and Wolfenstein: The Old Blood).
Re: Review: Earth Defense Force 4.1: The Shadow of New Despair (PS4)
EDF! EDF! EDF!
This is one of my favorite series BECAUSE it's so stupid and embraces it. The god awful framerate is actually charming for me and my friends (even if annoying at time), but I'll be looking forward to playing this (I've had it since Tuesday, but I'm waiting for a college buddy to visit on Saturday to actually start playing it).
Re: Review: Beyond: Two Souls (PS4)
@get2sammyb YES TOTALLY BUYING THAT. This is why you're the best PushSquare writer, Sammy.
Re: Review: Beyond: Two Souls (PS4)
I LOVED this game on PS3 - preordered the collector's edition. I won't be picking it up for PS4 unless there's a physical release, but for QuanticDreams' style, it's a great release.
Re: Weirdness: Zombi Rises Again for Retail on PS4
Why? I loved it on Wii U, but it just felt empty on Xbox One (I haven't played it on PS4, but I imagine it's the same game). It was built for the Wii U's gamepad, and it worked well with it. Why are they giving a gutted port into which they put half-hearted effort with minimal enhancements on a disc now? Did it actually sell well digitally?
Re: SEGA to Deploy Two Valkyria Chronicles Titles on the PS4
Either Europe or America pleeeease. And I wish they'd put the PSP games on PSN.
Re: Want to Play Fallout 4 All Day Tuesday? Pete Hines Has Your Back
Real talk, though, I'm calling in sick tomorrow.
Re: Sony Not Looking to Profit with PlayStation VR Hardware
@Neolit
Ah, I stand corrected then. I was always under the impression that it sold poorly since I hardly ever saw software developed for it. Thanks for correcting me.
Re: Sony Not Looking to Profit with PlayStation VR Hardware
They'll have a hard time selling this, I think. Playstation Move and the Xbox 360 Kinect didn't do especially well, and I think Playstation VR will do about the same with sales - okay but not great. I, however, plan to pre-order as soon as I can.
Re: Don't Buy Call of Duty: Black Ops III on PS3
@sonicmeerkat
No, it's just the end of its life span. The NES had a 6 year life span; the SNES had a 5 year life span; the N64 had a 5 year life span; the Gamecube had a 5 year life span; the Wii had a 6 year life span; and if they've said that they're announcing the NX in 2016, that means it will be a 2017 release, giving the Wii U a 5 year life span. It might feel short since the Wii U released a year before the PS4 and the Xbox One, but it's actually exactly on par with the console release pattern that Nintendo has always followed.
(Note that I was basing on North American release dates; the NES and SNES were staggered in terms of releasing across the globe).
Re: Don't Buy Call of Duty: Black Ops III on PS3
@sonicmeerkat
I spent the whole video thinking "Black Ops 3 on Xbox One looks exactly like Black Ops 2 on Wii U...."
Re: Review: Goosebumps: The Game (PS4)
I'm a pretty big fan of WayForward - I love the entire Shante and Mighty Switch Force series as well as Duck Tales Remastered - but this one does look abysmal. I've noticed that for the most part, their original titles are pretty good, but they're terrible at licensed games.
Re: Fallout 4's Live Action Trailer Is Pure Post-Apocalyptic Hype
jadfaj;sldkfjapweiourashd;kjg my hype train just broke the sound barrier
Re: New Gameplay Features Revealed for Wasteland 2: Director's Cut
I picked this up yesterday and played a few hours last night. The game is FANTASTIC. The voice actors used aren't the most talented in the industry, but the gameplay is great, and it's MORE than worth the asking price.
Re: Poll: Is the Force Strong with the Star Wars Battlefront Beta?
A game is like a relationship; a pretty face is great and all, but if there's no substance, it won't last. Graphics are great or whatever, but there's nothing that makes it stand out. They stripped out the campaign and just put a Star Wars skin on a Battlefield game. It's just another run-of-the-mill shooter now. I might pick it up used after the price falls, but I definitely won't be paying full price for this.
Re: Opinion: PS4 Firmware Update 3.00 Is One Step Forward, Two Steps Back
It's not awful, but seriously, with a company that has as much experience as Sony, there's no reasons for these updates to be such mixed bags.
Re: TGS 2015: Resident Evil Umbrella Corps Gets Competitive on PS4
Resident Evil has never been a strong multiplayer experience. This had better have a single player campaign.
Re: Three Dog Voice Actor Not Returning for Fallout 4
I'm not just sad; I'm pissed. I mean, I understand it to a certain extent since it's not DC, but still, I'd have like to hear him in some role, even if it's not Three Dog.
Re: Activision Demands Your Milk Money with Deadpool PS4 Port
I absolutely loved Deadpool, but $50 is too much. $30 max.
Re: Review: Zombi (PS4)
@glassmusic
No. It's Ubisoft's typically sloppy launch-title graphics.
Re: Review: Zombi (PS4)
I LOVED ZombiU and picked it up on launch day along with my Wii U. While the game is a lot of fun, this does look like an extremely sloppy port. From what I've seen in comparison videos, the graphics are pretty much identical (while I have no problems with the Wii U's graphical abilities, it was a launch title that's been ported to a MUCH more powerful console after 3 years; they shouldn't look the same). Add to that the loss of the second screen which, in my opinion, made the game stand out from the crowd and added a great, unique charm to it; as well as the local multiplayer - arguably the best part of the game in terms of replay value - and I'm left asking "What's the point?"
Don't get me wrong, for those who only have a PS4 or an Xbox One, I'm glad they get to the play the game, but the Wii U is definitely going to shine through as the best console to play this on. Hardware superiority or not, the game was designed specifically for Wii U; a sloppy port to another system can't top the original.
Re: How Long Is Everybody's Gone to the Rapture on PS4?
@LieutenantFatman
Not much time for your money compared to most games, but nothing rips you off in the time enjoyed-to-cost ratio the way movies do. I will probably wait for it to go on sale, though.
Re: Gamescom 2015: Homefront: The Revolution Raises Its Weapon to 2016
I'm not sure "said no one ever" is accurate, but it is true that I might be the only person on the planet who's said that.
Re: Wii U Exclusive Zombi Officially Reanimated on PS4
@Matroska
The dual screen set up can be used brilliantly if the developers know what they're doing. Just looked at how amazing well-made games on the 3DS and DS have used its two-screen format. The Wii U is no different. Most games don't utilize it well if at all, but that doesn't mean that it can't make games amazing.
Re: Wii U Exclusive Zombi Officially Reanimated on PS4
No dual screen, no awesome local multiplayer, and the exact same launch-title visuals? Why? Why did they even bother? The gamepad is what made the game great; without that, it's just another dime-a-dozen horror game with nothing that stands out.
Re: Destiny's Writing Is 'Boring as S***' According to Arrested Development Actor David Cross
The gameplay's not bad, but the writing sucks serious balls. I never though I'd play a game with worse writing than the Call of Duty series, but lo and behold, Destiny's plot actually bored me more.
Re: E3 2015: Bethesda Says Graphics Were Sacrificed for Gameplay in Fallout 4
Only an idiot buys a game for graphics. I love stunning graphics, but graphics in a game is like story in a porno; if that's what you buy it for, then your priorities are way off. You buy a GAME for the GAMEPLAY. If you want super-stunning visuals above all else, go watch an action movie.
Re: Crikey, Fallout 4 Is Already Available for Pre-Order at a Decent Discount in the UK
@Neolit
I sure hope so. My body is so ready for this game, but I'm not sure it's ready to wait a year and a half.
Re: Fallout 4's Gameplay Reveal Goes Nuclear on PS4
@rastamadeus
When it's your all-time favorite game series and the last game was released half a decade ago, you're right, it's not an overreaction.
Re: Fallout 4's Gameplay Reveal Goes Nuclear on PS4
@Swiket
It was the capitol building that I thought I recognized. Awesome. I'm so excited. Hopefully the story will involve some Commonwealth vs Enclave combat.
Re: Fallout 4's Gameplay Reveal Goes Nuclear on PS4
@RawWilson1
I think you're overthinking it. I'd bet money they do concurrent releases.
Does anyone know where it takes place? I thought that looked like Boston, but I wasn't sure.
Re: Fallout 4's Gameplay Reveal Goes Nuclear on PS4
This is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. Any word on a release date, or have they not said anything?
Re: PS4 Nyko Databank Will Put Some Extra Fat on Your PS4 This June
@Quorthon
Not true. The asymmetrical gameplay, while few non-Nintendo developers have used it well, offers completely different play styles than any console before it. The multiplayer in ZombiU, NintendoLand, Call of Duty, and Hyrule Warriors prove that. With stuff like CoD and Hyrule Warriors, it doesn't reinvent the wheel, but it does improve vastly on the split-screen model, and I've never seen a local multiplayer game that works like ZombiU or NintendoLand.
Re: PS4 Nyko Databank Will Put Some Extra Fat on Your PS4 This June
@Neolit
If generation were only about pure hardware power, you'd be right in your initial view of the Wii U, but at least to those of us who have spent decades gaming on pretty much platform out there, there's more to it than that, as you mentioned.
I have a Wii U, a PS4, an Xbox One, a high-end gaming PC, a New 3DS, and a PS Vita, and each platform definitely has its own array of pros and cons. Generation is about advances in gaming, not just advances in graphics. To be sure, graphical enhancements are part of that, but the way we play games, especially these days where graphical improvements are minute at best, are the key. Even if it's not to one's personal liking - I know not everyone liked the Wii's motion control or the DS's dual screens, for example - the most important improvements in gaming these past 10 years have been how we experience the game far more so than what the game visibly looks like.
Now I will say, of course, that I LOVE the stunning graphics on the PS4 and Xbox One, but when I'm hanging out with my friends, we almost never play anything other than my Wii U; it's just the better platform for social gaming because that's its focus - not graphical prowess but bringing a new experience.
Re: PS4 Nyko Databank Will Put Some Extra Fat on Your PS4 This June
@BLPs
Ohh, I misunderstood. I've seen so many fanboys harp on the Wii U for such petty reasons that I simply assumed it was meant seriously. I apologize.
Re: PS4 Nyko Databank Will Put Some Extra Fat on Your PS4 This June
@BLPs
The Wii U is current gen. Its hardware is superior to the strongest last-gen console (the PS3); it is, by definition, current gen. Please put the fanboy pandering on hold and stick to constructive discussion.
I already upgraded my HDD to 1 TB, but I'll probably pick this up when I fill that up (took me about a year and a half to fill that with mostly on-disc installs, so it probably won't take more than a year or two). Does it come with a HDD, or is it just the hardware interface?
Re: First Impressions: Just How Bad Is Ultra Street Fighter IV on PS4?
Psh. Everyone knows real competitive gamers play Shaq Fu.
Re: Konami's Really Sorry You Don't Like Its Mobile First Future
Konami is screwing itself with this. Mobile is definitely the future of portable gaming, but I really can't see it replacing consoles. Consoles sales will slow because of mobile gaming, sure, and it may soon kill off handheld gaming, but you can't have the same experience from Call of Duty, Gran Turismo, Legend of Zelda, or Super Smash Bros on a phone that you can on a console. You can get a watered down version, sure, but in an age where the Wii U is widely seen as "pathetic" for its hardware specs (disclaimer: I do NOT hold that opinion, but I know it's not an uncommon one), I can't see an iPhone replacing a Playstation 4 anytime soon.
Re: Sony: PlayStation Vita Is a Legacy Platform
@Neolit
I agree completely. When I decided to get a Vita a few months back (finally), I specifically hunted down an original model. Since a handheld is kind of dependent on the screen, I didn't want the lower quality LCD screen on the slim.
Re: The New Need for Speed Is Called Need for Speed
When's the 3DO release?
Re: No, Shenmue III Ain't Looking for Sailors on PS4
....why must you crush my hopes and dreams? Can't a man have fantasies?!?
Re: Natsuiro High School Is Not the PS4, PS3 Photography Game We Had in Mind
I'm totally gonna pick this up.
@ElkinFencer10 I have asked you several times now to please watch the language, next time I won't ask. So please watch the language. -Tasuki-
Re: April 2015 NPD: PS4 Slumps to Shock Defeat
@thedevilsjester
Is it? Because the system I get the most enjoyment out of is my Wii U, and it has the smallest install base and least love from developers.
Re: April 2015 NPD: PS4 Slumps to Shock Defeat
Does it really matter who sells more? Just enjoy your games, whatever your console of choice may be. I have all three, but my preference is Wii U, so that's what I buy most games for and what I play most. I don't really care that it doesn't hold a candle to Xbox One or PS4 sales; my enjoyment isn't dependent on its success relative to its competitors. The same should go for PS4 fans with this report. The console war really needs to end, yo; the only good console war was the Super Nintendo vs the Genesis, anyway.
Re: Japanese Sales Charts: Hyperdimension Neptunia Gives PS4 a Lift
I WANT MORE NEP-NEP IN AMERICA
Re: Soapbox: You Should Stop Pre-Ordering Games
I only pre-order Nintendo games (since they never pull bull like that anyway) and games obscure enough that I actually do worry about stock (I'm a HUGE Hyperdimension Neptunia fan, but I live in a small town with a small gaming scene, so I pre-ordered Neptunia U and Re;Birth 3 because they probably wouldn't even stock those games if I didn't).
I agree with this, though. I never pre-order AAA titles because, as many have said, there's no reason. They never run out of stock.
please watch the language -Tasuki-
Re: Feature: Eight Things You Need to Know About Star Wars: Battlefront on PS4
@Splat
That was my EXACT reaction, and honestly, it's a deal breaker for me. Between Destiny and Titanfall, this "online only" is sucking any enthusiasm I had right out. I'm thrilled that they have split screen, but the lack of a campaign ensured that I won't be pre-ordering, and unless the final product leaves me extremely impressed in other ways, I probably won't be buying it at all.
@ElkinFencer10 Please watch the language -Tasuki-