@LieutenantFatman Not much time for your money compared to most games, but nothing rips you off in the time enjoyed-to-cost ratio the way movies do. I will probably wait for it to go on sale, though.
@Matroska The dual screen set up can be used brilliantly if the developers know what they're doing. Just looked at how amazing well-made games on the 3DS and DS have used its two-screen format. The Wii U is no different. Most games don't utilize it well if at all, but that doesn't mean that it can't make games amazing.
No dual screen, no awesome local multiplayer, and the exact same launch-title visuals? Why? Why did they even bother? The gamepad is what made the game great; without that, it's just another dime-a-dozen horror game with nothing that stands out.
The gameplay's not bad, but the writing sucks serious balls. I never though I'd play a game with worse writing than the Call of Duty series, but lo and behold, Destiny's plot actually bored me more.
Only an idiot buys a game for graphics. I love stunning graphics, but graphics in a game is like story in a porno; if that's what you buy it for, then your priorities are way off. You buy a GAME for the GAMEPLAY. If you want super-stunning visuals above all else, go watch an action movie.
@Swiket It was the capitol building that I thought I recognized. Awesome. I'm so excited. Hopefully the story will involve some Commonwealth vs Enclave combat.
@Quorthon Not true. The asymmetrical gameplay, while few non-Nintendo developers have used it well, offers completely different play styles than any console before it. The multiplayer in ZombiU, NintendoLand, Call of Duty, and Hyrule Warriors prove that. With stuff like CoD and Hyrule Warriors, it doesn't reinvent the wheel, but it does improve vastly on the split-screen model, and I've never seen a local multiplayer game that works like ZombiU or NintendoLand.
@Neolit
If generation were only about pure hardware power, you'd be right in your initial view of the Wii U, but at least to those of us who have spent decades gaming on pretty much platform out there, there's more to it than that, as you mentioned.
I have a Wii U, a PS4, an Xbox One, a high-end gaming PC, a New 3DS, and a PS Vita, and each platform definitely has its own array of pros and cons. Generation is about advances in gaming, not just advances in graphics. To be sure, graphical enhancements are part of that, but the way we play games, especially these days where graphical improvements are minute at best, are the key. Even if it's not to one's personal liking - I know not everyone liked the Wii's motion control or the DS's dual screens, for example - the most important improvements in gaming these past 10 years have been how we experience the game far more so than what the game visibly looks like.
Now I will say, of course, that I LOVE the stunning graphics on the PS4 and Xbox One, but when I'm hanging out with my friends, we almost never play anything other than my Wii U; it's just the better platform for social gaming because that's its focus - not graphical prowess but bringing a new experience.
@BLPs Ohh, I misunderstood. I've seen so many fanboys harp on the Wii U for such petty reasons that I simply assumed it was meant seriously. I apologize.
@BLPs The Wii U is current gen. Its hardware is superior to the strongest last-gen console (the PS3); it is, by definition, current gen. Please put the fanboy pandering on hold and stick to constructive discussion.
I already upgraded my HDD to 1 TB, but I'll probably pick this up when I fill that up (took me about a year and a half to fill that with mostly on-disc installs, so it probably won't take more than a year or two). Does it come with a HDD, or is it just the hardware interface?
Konami is screwing itself with this. Mobile is definitely the future of portable gaming, but I really can't see it replacing consoles. Consoles sales will slow because of mobile gaming, sure, and it may soon kill off handheld gaming, but you can't have the same experience from Call of Duty, Gran Turismo, Legend of Zelda, or Super Smash Bros on a phone that you can on a console. You can get a watered down version, sure, but in an age where the Wii U is widely seen as "pathetic" for its hardware specs (disclaimer: I do NOT hold that opinion, but I know it's not an uncommon one), I can't see an iPhone replacing a Playstation 4 anytime soon.
@Neolit I agree completely. When I decided to get a Vita a few months back (finally), I specifically hunted down an original model. Since a handheld is kind of dependent on the screen, I didn't want the lower quality LCD screen on the slim.
@thedevilsjester Is it? Because the system I get the most enjoyment out of is my Wii U, and it has the smallest install base and least love from developers.
Does it really matter who sells more? Just enjoy your games, whatever your console of choice may be. I have all three, but my preference is Wii U, so that's what I buy most games for and what I play most. I don't really care that it doesn't hold a candle to Xbox One or PS4 sales; my enjoyment isn't dependent on its success relative to its competitors. The same should go for PS4 fans with this report. The console war really needs to end, yo; the only good console war was the Super Nintendo vs the Genesis, anyway.
I only pre-order Nintendo games (since they never pull bull like that anyway) and games obscure enough that I actually do worry about stock (I'm a HUGE Hyperdimension Neptunia fan, but I live in a small town with a small gaming scene, so I pre-ordered Neptunia U and Re;Birth 3 because they probably wouldn't even stock those games if I didn't).
I agree with this, though. I never pre-order AAA titles because, as many have said, there's no reason. They never run out of stock.
@Splat
That was my EXACT reaction, and honestly, it's a deal breaker for me. Between Destiny and Titanfall, this "online only" is sucking any enthusiasm I had right out. I'm thrilled that they have split screen, but the lack of a campaign ensured that I won't be pre-ordering, and unless the final product leaves me extremely impressed in other ways, I probably won't be buying it at all.
I played it on PS4, but I'm really upset this isn't coming to 3DS. I'm thrilled that they're bringing to Vita, but the 3DS was where the Revelations sub-series was born as (originally) an exclusive; the sequel ought to be on 3DS.
This hurt my soul to see. If it were a regular PS4, I'd say go for it. It looks...interesting....though not to my taste, but for a limited edition? No. God no. Hell no. Sweet Jesus Christ, no.
@JLPick Dude, no doubt. Graphically, like you said, they were bland, and the story is kind of garbage, but it was so much fun. Even waggling the controller on Wii until my arm ached was a blast with all of the zombie carnage. Despite the low production values, I'm psyched for this game.
@Alpha You should see their reactions when I pull out my 3DS or my Vita and start playing while they take their tests on Fridays. Jaws dropped the first week. =P Apparently it's uncommon for high school teachers to do that. It just seems like common sense to me. Mr. Deck's First Rule - "Never leave home without a video game."
GOD, I would love another Alien: Isolation game. I LOVED the first one, and I've actually just watched the first three Alien movies again this weekend.
Since I'm at work and it would be tough to explain to my students why their teacher is watching that video in class, I didn't hear the voice acting, but the gameplay at least looks like the usual bucket of fun that the other Onechanbara games were. Hopefully it'll be less repetitive, but it looks like fun.
It's nice to see them working together seeing how much pointless animosity there is between fanboys. I'm proud to own a PS3, an Xbox 360, a Wii, a DSi, a PSP, a Wii U, a PS4, an Xbox One, a 3DS, and a PS Vita.
$12 seems a bit steep for me, but I may give it a shot later. If I do get it, though, it'll be for Wii U. I love my Playstation consoles, but I'm a Nintendo fan at heart.
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Re: How Long Is Everybody's Gone to the Rapture on PS4?
@LieutenantFatman
Not much time for your money compared to most games, but nothing rips you off in the time enjoyed-to-cost ratio the way movies do. I will probably wait for it to go on sale, though.
Re: Gamescom 2015: Homefront: The Revolution Raises Its Weapon to 2016
I'm not sure "said no one ever" is accurate, but it is true that I might be the only person on the planet who's said that.
Re: Wii U Exclusive Zombi Officially Reanimated on PS4
@Matroska
The dual screen set up can be used brilliantly if the developers know what they're doing. Just looked at how amazing well-made games on the 3DS and DS have used its two-screen format. The Wii U is no different. Most games don't utilize it well if at all, but that doesn't mean that it can't make games amazing.
Re: Wii U Exclusive Zombi Officially Reanimated on PS4
No dual screen, no awesome local multiplayer, and the exact same launch-title visuals? Why? Why did they even bother? The gamepad is what made the game great; without that, it's just another dime-a-dozen horror game with nothing that stands out.
Re: Destiny's Writing Is 'Boring as S***' According to Arrested Development Actor David Cross
The gameplay's not bad, but the writing sucks serious balls. I never though I'd play a game with worse writing than the Call of Duty series, but lo and behold, Destiny's plot actually bored me more.
Re: E3 2015: Bethesda Says Graphics Were Sacrificed for Gameplay in Fallout 4
Only an idiot buys a game for graphics. I love stunning graphics, but graphics in a game is like story in a porno; if that's what you buy it for, then your priorities are way off. You buy a GAME for the GAMEPLAY. If you want super-stunning visuals above all else, go watch an action movie.
Re: Crikey, Fallout 4 Is Already Available for Pre-Order at a Decent Discount in the UK
@Neolit
I sure hope so. My body is so ready for this game, but I'm not sure it's ready to wait a year and a half.
Re: Fallout 4's Gameplay Reveal Goes Nuclear on PS4
@rastamadeus
When it's your all-time favorite game series and the last game was released half a decade ago, you're right, it's not an overreaction.
Re: Fallout 4's Gameplay Reveal Goes Nuclear on PS4
@Swiket
It was the capitol building that I thought I recognized. Awesome. I'm so excited. Hopefully the story will involve some Commonwealth vs Enclave combat.
Re: Fallout 4's Gameplay Reveal Goes Nuclear on PS4
@RawWilson1
I think you're overthinking it. I'd bet money they do concurrent releases.
Does anyone know where it takes place? I thought that looked like Boston, but I wasn't sure.
Re: Fallout 4's Gameplay Reveal Goes Nuclear on PS4
This is the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. Any word on a release date, or have they not said anything?
Re: PS4 Nyko Databank Will Put Some Extra Fat on Your PS4 This June
@Quorthon
Not true. The asymmetrical gameplay, while few non-Nintendo developers have used it well, offers completely different play styles than any console before it. The multiplayer in ZombiU, NintendoLand, Call of Duty, and Hyrule Warriors prove that. With stuff like CoD and Hyrule Warriors, it doesn't reinvent the wheel, but it does improve vastly on the split-screen model, and I've never seen a local multiplayer game that works like ZombiU or NintendoLand.
Re: PS4 Nyko Databank Will Put Some Extra Fat on Your PS4 This June
@Neolit
If generation were only about pure hardware power, you'd be right in your initial view of the Wii U, but at least to those of us who have spent decades gaming on pretty much platform out there, there's more to it than that, as you mentioned.
I have a Wii U, a PS4, an Xbox One, a high-end gaming PC, a New 3DS, and a PS Vita, and each platform definitely has its own array of pros and cons. Generation is about advances in gaming, not just advances in graphics. To be sure, graphical enhancements are part of that, but the way we play games, especially these days where graphical improvements are minute at best, are the key. Even if it's not to one's personal liking - I know not everyone liked the Wii's motion control or the DS's dual screens, for example - the most important improvements in gaming these past 10 years have been how we experience the game far more so than what the game visibly looks like.
Now I will say, of course, that I LOVE the stunning graphics on the PS4 and Xbox One, but when I'm hanging out with my friends, we almost never play anything other than my Wii U; it's just the better platform for social gaming because that's its focus - not graphical prowess but bringing a new experience.
Re: PS4 Nyko Databank Will Put Some Extra Fat on Your PS4 This June
@BLPs
Ohh, I misunderstood. I've seen so many fanboys harp on the Wii U for such petty reasons that I simply assumed it was meant seriously. I apologize.
Re: PS4 Nyko Databank Will Put Some Extra Fat on Your PS4 This June
@BLPs
The Wii U is current gen. Its hardware is superior to the strongest last-gen console (the PS3); it is, by definition, current gen. Please put the fanboy pandering on hold and stick to constructive discussion.
I already upgraded my HDD to 1 TB, but I'll probably pick this up when I fill that up (took me about a year and a half to fill that with mostly on-disc installs, so it probably won't take more than a year or two). Does it come with a HDD, or is it just the hardware interface?
Re: First Impressions: Just How Bad Is Ultra Street Fighter IV on PS4?
Psh. Everyone knows real competitive gamers play Shaq Fu.
Re: Konami's Really Sorry You Don't Like Its Mobile First Future
Konami is screwing itself with this. Mobile is definitely the future of portable gaming, but I really can't see it replacing consoles. Consoles sales will slow because of mobile gaming, sure, and it may soon kill off handheld gaming, but you can't have the same experience from Call of Duty, Gran Turismo, Legend of Zelda, or Super Smash Bros on a phone that you can on a console. You can get a watered down version, sure, but in an age where the Wii U is widely seen as "pathetic" for its hardware specs (disclaimer: I do NOT hold that opinion, but I know it's not an uncommon one), I can't see an iPhone replacing a Playstation 4 anytime soon.
Re: Sony: PlayStation Vita Is a Legacy Platform
@Neolit
I agree completely. When I decided to get a Vita a few months back (finally), I specifically hunted down an original model. Since a handheld is kind of dependent on the screen, I didn't want the lower quality LCD screen on the slim.
Re: The New Need for Speed Is Called Need for Speed
When's the 3DO release?
Re: No, Shenmue III Ain't Looking for Sailors on PS4
....why must you crush my hopes and dreams? Can't a man have fantasies?!?
Re: Natsuiro High School Is Not the PS4, PS3 Photography Game We Had in Mind
I'm totally gonna pick this up.
@ElkinFencer10 I have asked you several times now to please watch the language, next time I won't ask. So please watch the language. -Tasuki-
Re: April 2015 NPD: PS4 Slumps to Shock Defeat
@thedevilsjester
Is it? Because the system I get the most enjoyment out of is my Wii U, and it has the smallest install base and least love from developers.
Re: April 2015 NPD: PS4 Slumps to Shock Defeat
Does it really matter who sells more? Just enjoy your games, whatever your console of choice may be. I have all three, but my preference is Wii U, so that's what I buy most games for and what I play most. I don't really care that it doesn't hold a candle to Xbox One or PS4 sales; my enjoyment isn't dependent on its success relative to its competitors. The same should go for PS4 fans with this report. The console war really needs to end, yo; the only good console war was the Super Nintendo vs the Genesis, anyway.
Re: Japanese Sales Charts: Hyperdimension Neptunia Gives PS4 a Lift
I WANT MORE NEP-NEP IN AMERICA
Re: Soapbox: You Should Stop Pre-Ordering Games
I only pre-order Nintendo games (since they never pull bull like that anyway) and games obscure enough that I actually do worry about stock (I'm a HUGE Hyperdimension Neptunia fan, but I live in a small town with a small gaming scene, so I pre-ordered Neptunia U and Re;Birth 3 because they probably wouldn't even stock those games if I didn't).
I agree with this, though. I never pre-order AAA titles because, as many have said, there's no reason. They never run out of stock.
please watch the language -Tasuki-
Re: Feature: Eight Things You Need to Know About Star Wars: Battlefront on PS4
@Splat
That was my EXACT reaction, and honestly, it's a deal breaker for me. Between Destiny and Titanfall, this "online only" is sucking any enthusiasm I had right out. I'm thrilled that they have split screen, but the lack of a campaign ensured that I won't be pre-ordering, and unless the final product leaves me extremely impressed in other ways, I probably won't be buying it at all.
@ElkinFencer10 Please watch the language -Tasuki-
Re: Store Update: 14th April 2015 (North America)
Oooh, more Hatsune Miku. This pleases me.
Re: Review: Jamestown+ (PlayStation 4)
Need payday to come faster.
Re: Resident Evil: Revelations 2 Vita Will Rear Its Ugly Head This Summer
I played it on PS4, but I'm really upset this isn't coming to 3DS. I'm thrilled that they're bringing to Vita, but the 3DS was where the Revelations sub-series was born as (originally) an exclusive; the sequel ought to be on 3DS.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the New PSN Logo?
I preferred the old logo, but I like the new one.
Re: Idols Omega Quintet Are Ready to Perform on PS4 This April
#irrelevantpetpeeve - Why are we still calling it "next gen" when it's been the current generation for a year and a half?
#relevantcomment - As a HUGE fan of the Hyperdimension Neptunia series, I'm EXTREMELY excited about this. =D
Re: Weirdness: Don't Pimp Your 20th Anniversary PS4 Like This
This hurt my soul to see. If it were a regular PS4, I'd say go for it. It looks...interesting....though not to my taste, but for a limited edition? No. God no. Hell no. Sweet Jesus Christ, no.
Re: Here's the West's First Look at Scantily Clad Schoolgirls Killing Zombies in Onechanbara Z2: Chaos
@JLPick
Dude, no doubt. Graphically, like you said, they were bland, and the story is kind of garbage, but it was so much fun. Even waggling the controller on Wii until my arm ached was a blast with all of the zombie carnage. Despite the low production values, I'm psyched for this game.
Re: Here's the West's First Look at Scantily Clad Schoolgirls Killing Zombies in Onechanbara Z2: Chaos
@Alpha
You should see their reactions when I pull out my 3DS or my Vita and start playing while they take their tests on Fridays. Jaws dropped the first week. =P Apparently it's uncommon for high school teachers to do that. It just seems like common sense to me. Mr. Deck's First Rule - "Never leave home without a video game."
Re: Could Creative Assembly Be Crafting Alien: Isolation 2 for PS4?
GOD, I would love another Alien: Isolation game. I LOVED the first one, and I've actually just watched the first three Alien movies again this weekend.
Re: Here's The West's First Look at Scantily Clad Schoolgirls Killing Zombies in Onechanbara Z2: Chaos
Since I'm at work and it would be tough to explain to my students why their teacher is watching that video in class, I didn't hear the voice acting, but the gameplay at least looks like the usual bucket of fun that the other Onechanbara games were. Hopefully it'll be less repetitive, but it looks like fun.
Re: Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo Are Working Together to Stop DDoS Attacks
It's nice to see them working together seeing how much pointless animosity there is between fanboys. I'm proud to own a PS3, an Xbox 360, a Wii, a DSi, a PSP, a Wii U, a PS4, an Xbox One, a 3DS, and a PS Vita.
Re: Don't Forget to Download March's PlayStation Plus Freebies
I downloaded CounterSpy last night. I'm looking forward to trying it out after work today.
Re: Review: Starwhal: Just the Tip (PlayStation 4)
$12 seems a bit steep for me, but I may give it a shot later. If I do get it, though, it'll be for Wii U. I love my Playstation consoles, but I'm a Nintendo fan at heart.