does it include the dlc? (cyberpunk)
Edit: just realised it doesn't, so it turns out this isn't very generous, a 4.5 year old game being released in its non complete version.
I understand that the dlc is recent, but you can't expect me to think this is anything special.
Excellent article. I agree with all points. Live service games are dishonest addictive and shallow. Corporate greed is a reason they are appealing, at no benefit to the consumer. Want to feel like you are being scammed? Get yourself investested in crap like fortnite.
Herman Hulst should be sacked. He has no business being at the helm of a games company, particularly one with the history playstation has.
Character looks fine, story looks interesting. I'm not a fan of anything ND has done since the first Jak and Daxter sadly, not really my style of game and I've been burnt buying their games only to stop playing and not return, so a demo would be nice.
Regarding the politics, I do feel like ND are making a political statement with the character, so you are bound to wind some people up. Pre-emptively turning youtube comments off shows they knew this as well.
I haven't enjoyed anything from ND since Jak and Daxter 1, and I've tried most of their games.
I actually gave it extra effort to trying to enjoy them due to all the glowing reviews, but in the end I gave up. This made me sad to not enjoy sonething almost everyone else appeared to like.
I imagine there are some like me out there who feel the same way. Sadly I won't be spending money on this, however I'd play a demo to see if this game is different from uncharted or tlou. So I'd offer my time to give this a chance but I won't offer money.
And no offence, but I wouldn't trust a review of this game, as I haven't agreed with the previous ones (Jak and Daxter 1 excluded).
Not really sold on the naughty dog game, though i didn't enjoy much from them since jak and daxter 1. So I am surprised to see it top this poll, though I am aware I'm in the minority for disliking the cinematic experience type games. There wasn't too much to go off in the trailer to tell if it will be a similair experience, but I'd sooner go watch a movie. Elden ring wins it for me, even if it is a weird spinoff.
Sad for individuals, but I'd sooner it get permanently cancelled. Never have been interested in never ending, yawn fest, live service rubbish that makes me feel like a mark in some sort of grift.
Oh piss off Sony, between this and live service bollocks, you are just as grubby as all the others. Time for me to recede into the past and play on my old consoles, or just touch grass.
I already didn't care about any of these live service games. When I play a game I don't want to feel like I'm some hapless mark bring duped out of their money (like some poor sod putting £40 into a fruit machine on pay day). I hope Fairgame$ and Marathon get cancelled or scaled back, and I'm glad that the live services as the future is looking bleak. Considering their rich heritage, I'm surprised to see Sony falling for this.
Oh and just to go a bit old school, I preferred it when multiplayed modes get tacked on to single played experiences such as Goldeneye and Halo.
Though there are succesful modern examples like CoD or even titanfall (less succesful but presumably better than 25k), so this isn't really an archaic concept either.
Why not use Sonys significant single player experience to entice us in, and then make us stick around for the multiplayer.
On one hand I am pleased, it gives a message to publishers to what games aren't wanted want loud and clear, bland live service shooters are old hat.
I don't know if the culture war stuff has played into it, but it has also featured on deidetected.com, i imagine this would only put off a tiny proportion of people, but a lot of people do care about that sort of thing.
On the other hand I'm sad, it's well made and I can only imagine the trauma and stress of watching something you put vast amount of time into come to nothing.
Summons, blessing, buffs, spirit ash, level up more. All viable options to beat something without needing to learn and respond to the boss moves. To be honest these games give you so many ways to get around road blocks compared to many others.
Too many games, so little time. Even at "free" I'm not sure really. Beginning a game and commiting time to finish it is a cost I often struggle to pay.
I played the other games multiple times, but this one feels dull to play through again. The account wide progression sounds flashy, but subsequent characters are "buffed" by stat and skill points from your first play through, making them feel boosted and easy.
You are even encouraged to skip the campaign, so you get straight to the dull grindy crap. This shows a lack of understanding in what makes playing a game fun.
Then again the dull grindy seasonal stuff is where they sell the battle passes, so it's obviously their goal.
Glad I bought this pysically so I can return it. I really don't like the feeling of being made a fool out of by EA and Push Squares overly generous review score.
Gets a 5 for releasing too soon. I actively don't want to play this until the patches sort out the stuttering. Amazon inform me i have until 28th of May to return this.
Unless patched I will be returning and waiting for a very deep sale, or deliberately buy 2nd hand to deprive them of a sale.
Patch doesn't do anything. Cutscenese related to the first boss fight still stutter in exactly the same way. Tried on performance and none performance mode. Guess we will need to keep waiting. Got my finger hovering over the return to amazon at this stage...
In other news, I'm getting good at the first boss! But I refuse to play any more of what seems to be an excellent game without this stuttering sorted.
I keep hearing discourse about the pc version being a mess. The ps5 version is also a mess, same issues and I can confirm this.
No excuse for this, and frankly Push Square, your review made light of the technical issues, and was too generous in it's score. Reviews are there to guard against this, otherwise what's the point.
In my opinion review sites and publishers are at fault here, and they should both look at their processes.
I'm not someone who generally cares but these issues are so bad, I can get behind the review bombing.
I keep hearing discourse about the pc version being a mess. The ps5 version is also a mess, same issues and I can confirm this.
No excuse for this, and frankly Push Square, your review made light of the technical issues, and was too generous in it's score. Reviews are there to guard against this, otherwise what's the point.
In my opinion review sites and publishers are at fault here, and they should both look at their processes.
I'm not someone who generally cares but these issues are so bad, I can get behind the review bombing.
First boss down, the gameplay is great perfect difficulty balance and great exploration. However, performance is a big issue, the cutscenes stutter, framerate drops are consistent, even on performance mode. This does bother me, especially when the cutscenes are otherwise great. Unless you are desperate I'd just wait for a patch.
It was obvious that this would happen. Sony should stick to their current model, and only add older games to the service, ones that had a significant launch sales period. I honestly would have been happier with only retro games on the service in addition to the 2 games a month model, but microsofts aggression forced their hand. These retro or older games aren't always feasible to actually play, you may not have the older console, so this gives the service real value.
It really makes me admire nintendo's subscription model more, but they have the luxury of having an iron grip on most of their retro first party games licenses still.
Ultimately, just buy your games, physical preferably so you actually own it. Call me a dinosaur, i beg you.
I dislike all these subscription services. Paying for multiplayer server access with a random sprinkling of games was fine. Just buy the games you actually want, it will be cheaper in the long run.
Remember, sony and microsoft wouldnt push subscriptions unless they made more money from customers through them.
So go out there, be a dinosaur, buy a physical copy. You will actually own it, and can play it as often as you like. Maybe only buy the few games you actually want. Who knows, the market might not be flooded with thousands of games if that happened.
Premium, for 7 days then back to essential. No Demons souls ps3 despite being on the EU official site list. Classic list is genuinely poor, where's mgs, ff8, silent hill? where's gitaroo man, rez ps2 version? Where's ff13? Nothing premium about it.
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Re: Elden Ring Nightreign Will Get Even Tougher in New Hard Mode
This game is a waste of time and energy, it's just too stressful. I binned it (returned it) after 2 hours.
If this had been a patch to tune down difficulty then I'd be prepared to reconsider, but this is just tone deaf.
Re: 10 New PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Announced for July 2025
does it include the dlc? (cyberpunk)
Edit: just realised it doesn't, so it turns out this isn't very generous, a 4.5 year old game being released in its non complete version.
I understand that the dlc is recent, but you can't expect me to think this is anything special.
Re: Bungie Delays Marathon Indefinitely, No New PS5, PC Release Date Given
Good, get it cancelled and get them working on a solid single player game with an added on multiplayer mode.
Mistakes have been made, but its time to recognise them and move on.
The sheer waste of money and human productivity on this live service rubbish is scandalous.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Elden Ring Nightreign?
Almost unplayable.
Re: Lists of Sony’s Cancelled Live Service PS5 Games Paint a Worrying Picture
Imagine a world where these resources had been put into some single player games, and how exciting it would be to look forward to them right now.
Oh well, never mind. At least astrobot was good.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Live Service Push Has Been a Disaster of Utterly Insane Proportions
Excellent article.
I agree with all points. Live service games are dishonest addictive and shallow. Corporate greed is a reason they are appealing, at no benefit to the consumer. Want to feel like you are being scammed? Get yourself investested in crap like fortnite.
Herman Hulst should be sacked. He has no business being at the helm of a games company, particularly one with the history playstation has.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
Character looks fine, story looks interesting. I'm not a fan of anything ND has done since the first Jak and Daxter sadly, not really my style of game and I've been burnt buying their games only to stop playing and not return, so a demo would be nice.
Regarding the politics, I do feel like ND are making a political statement with the character, so you are bound to wind some people up. Pre-emptively turning youtube comments off shows they knew this as well.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Is Naughty Dog's Wildest, Most Creative Story Yet
I haven't enjoyed anything from ND since Jak and Daxter 1, and I've tried most of their games.
I actually gave it extra effort to trying to enjoy them due to all the glowing reviews, but in the end I gave up. This made me sad to not enjoy sonething almost everyone else appeared to like.
I imagine there are some like me out there who feel the same way. Sadly I won't be spending money on this, however I'd play a demo to see if this game is different from uncharted or tlou. So I'd offer my time to give this a chance but I won't offer money.
And no offence, but I wouldn't trust a review of this game, as I haven't agreed with the previous ones (Jak and Daxter 1 excluded).
TLDR, demo please.
Re: Talking Point: What Was the Best Game Announcement at The Game Awards 2024?
Not really sold on the naughty dog game, though i didn't enjoy much from them since jak and daxter 1. So I am surprised to see it top this poll, though I am aware I'm in the minority for disliking the cinematic experience type games. There wasn't too much to go off in the trailer to tell if it will be a similair experience, but I'd sooner go watch a movie.
Elden ring wins it for me, even if it is a weird spinoff.
Re: Random: PS2's Iconic Operating System Becomes Survival Horror in Upcoming Indie
@TimeDelayedGamer love your avatar
Re: Layoffs Reported at Horizon MMO Developer NCSOFT
Sad for individuals, but I'd sooner it get permanently cancelled.
Never have been interested in never ending, yawn fest, live service rubbish that makes me feel like a mark in some sort of grift.
Re: Dragon Age: The Veilguard's Raunchy ESRB Description Needs to Relax
I'm not looking forward to it, it looked a bit naff in the trailer, and the characters look a grey and lifeless.
Re: PS5 Firmware Update Annoys with Unwanted Deluge of Ads, News Feed
Oh piss off Sony, between this and live service bollocks, you are just as grubby as all the others.
Time for me to recede into the past and play on my old consoles, or just touch grass.
Re: Sony's Live Service Push 'No Joke', A Lot of People Working on Horizon Online
Oh piss off. More chasing scummy live service trends which make me feel like a mark rather than a customer. Time to touch grass.
Re: All Eyes on Aloy (Again), as Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered Comparison Does the Rounds
I'll pay £50 for a bloodborne 60fps upgrade.
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
I already didn't care about any of these live service games. When I play a game I don't want to feel like I'm some hapless mark bring duped out of their money (like some poor sod putting £40 into a fruit machine on pay day).
I hope Fairgame$ and Marathon get cancelled or scaled back, and I'm glad that the live services as the future is looking bleak.
Considering their rich heritage, I'm surprised to see Sony falling for this.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
Oh and just to go a bit old school, I preferred it when multiplayed modes get tacked on to single played experiences such as Goldeneye and Halo.
Though there are succesful modern examples like CoD or even titanfall (less succesful but presumably better than 25k), so this isn't really an archaic concept either.
Why not use Sonys significant single player experience to entice us in, and then make us stick around for the multiplayer.
Re: Concord PS5, PC Sales Estimates Are Somehow Even Worse Than We Thought
On one hand I am pleased, it gives a message to publishers to what games aren't wanted want loud and clear, bland live service shooters are old hat.
I don't know if the culture war stuff has played into it, but it has also featured on deidetected.com, i imagine this would only put off a tiny proportion of people, but a lot of people do care about that sort of thing.
On the other hand I'm sad, it's well made and I can only imagine the trauma and stress of watching something you put vast amount of time into come to nothing.
Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Reveals Utterly Ridiculous Player Stats for One Year Anniversary
I don't like the game, and it makes me sad.
edit to clarify: I'm sad I don't like the game, the game itself is well made and I just wish I liked it.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Billion Dollar Bungie Buyout Is Looking More and More Like a Blunder
Bungie Bungle.
Re: Broken, Battered Elden Ring Players Review Bomb Shadow of the Erdtree for Being Too Hard
Summons, blessing, buffs, spirit ash, level up more. All viable options to beat something without needing to learn and respond to the boss moves.
To be honest these games give you so many ways to get around road blocks compared to many others.
Re: Many, Many More Major Xbox Games Are Being Plotted for PS5
Microsofts grasping for profit at all costs is detestable. It's evident in their PC OS also. I'll pirate these games before i buy them. ***** them.
Re: PS Stars: How to Get Points
To be blunt, it's crap.
Re: Magical PS5 FPS Immortals of Aveum Is Probably Coming to PS Plus at Some Point
Too many games, so little time. Even at "free" I'm not sure really. Beginning a game and commiting time to finish it is a cost I often struggle to pay.
Re: Poll: Do You Still Play Diablo 4?
I played the other games multiple times, but this one feels dull to play through again. The account wide progression sounds flashy, but subsequent characters are "buffed" by stat and skill points from your first play through, making them feel boosted and easy.
You are even encouraged to skip the campaign, so you get straight to the dull grindy crap. This shows a lack of understanding in what makes playing a game fun.
Then again the dull grindy seasonal stuff is where they sell the battle passes, so it's obviously their goal.
Re: PS5, PS4 Players Will 'Remain Welcome' As Xbox Closes $69 Billion Activision Blizzard Buyout
Sometimes constructive criticism and nuanced debate is a waste of time. I believe this is one of those times.
F-off microsoft, you are greedy and wholly deserve to own activision blizzard king, three fallen, grubby avaricious companies.
Your slimy tweets are embarassing and clearly try to mask this greed. I won't miss any of the games that will now be skipping ps5 anyway.
Re: Game-Breaking Bug Detected in Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, But a Fix Is En Route
Glad I bought this pysically so I can return it. I really don't like the feeling of being made a fool out of by EA and Push Squares overly generous review score.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Star Wars Jedi: Survivor?
Gets a 5 for releasing too soon. I actively don't want to play this until the patches sort out the stuttering. Amazon inform me i have until 28th of May to return this.
Unless patched I will be returning and waiting for a very deep sale, or deliberately buy 2nd hand to deprive them of a sale.
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor PS5 Patch Out Now, Promises Improved Performance and Crash Fixes
Patch doesn't do anything. Cutscenese related to the first boss fight still stutter in exactly the same way. Tried on performance and none performance mode. Guess we will need to keep waiting. Got my finger hovering over the return to amazon at this stage...
In other news, I'm getting good at the first boss! But I refuse to play any more of what seems to be an excellent game without this stuttering sorted.
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor (PS5) - Fantastic Sequel Is Bigger and Better in Every Way
I keep hearing discourse about the pc version being a mess. The ps5 version is also a mess, same issues and I can confirm this.
No excuse for this, and frankly Push Square, your review made light of the technical issues, and was too generous in it's score. Reviews are there to guard against this, otherwise what's the point.
In my opinion review sites and publishers are at fault here, and they should both look at their processes.
I'm not someone who generally cares but these issues are so bad, I can get behind the review bombing.
Re: Star Wars Jedi: Survivor PS5 Bugs Will Be Squashed Across Weeks of Patches
I keep hearing discourse about the pc version being a mess. The ps5 version is also a mess, same issues and I can confirm this.
No excuse for this, and frankly Push Square, your review made light of the technical issues, and was too generous in it's score. Reviews are there to guard against this, otherwise what's the point.
In my opinion review sites and publishers are at fault here, and they should both look at their processes.
I'm not someone who generally cares but these issues are so bad, I can get behind the review bombing.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Star Wars Jedi: Survivor?
First boss down, the gameplay is great perfect difficulty balance and great exploration. However, performance is a big issue, the cutscenes stutter, framerate drops are consistent, even on performance mode.
This does bother me, especially when the cutscenes are otherwise great. Unless you are desperate I'd just wait for a patch.
Re: Soapbox: I No Longer Think Subscriptions Like PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Are the Future of Gaming
As a rule of thumb - if microsoft is pushing something as the next big thing, it isn't.
Re: 32 Games Will Be Taken Off PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Month
@UltimateOtaku91
Couldn't agree more. Just buy your games. Preferably physically.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 on PS5 Will Have a World Map Like in Final Fantasy 10
Nice spoiler. Would have loved to have just discovered this naturally but oh well. Maybe next game.
Re: Almost Every Mainline Final Fantasy Game Will Soon Be Playable on Current PlayStation Consoles
I find your Lack of 13 disturbing.
Re: Soapbox: PSVR2 Already Feels Like It's on Course for Failure
Simply put;
It's overpriced massively. Number one aspect that affects whether or not someone makes a purchase of pretty much anything.
At this price point you don't get anything that is particularly ground breaking anyway, so failure is inevitable.
It hasn't got backwards compatability. Sony are you joking? This is such a major drawback, and limits the already small games library even more.
I do honestly wonder about Sony sometimes.
Re: Microsoft Admits Xbox Game Pass Is Harming Software Sales After All
It was obvious that this would happen. Sony should stick to their current model, and only add older games to the service, ones that had a significant launch sales period. I honestly would have been happier with only retro games on the service in addition to the 2 games a month model, but microsofts aggression forced their hand. These retro or older games aren't always feasible to actually play, you may not have the older console, so this gives the service real value.
It really makes me admire nintendo's subscription model more, but they have the luxury of having an iron grip on most of their retro first party games licenses still.
Ultimately, just buy your games, physical preferably so you actually own it. Call me a dinosaur, i beg you.
Re: Fallout 76 - A Shockingly Bad Attempt at Multiplayer Survival
Keep this as a 3/10. If it's a 8/10 now then maybe it should have released in its current state.
Re: Simon Pegg Revealed as the Voice of Hogwarts Legacy's Headmaster
This game deserves to sell well
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium PS5, PS4 Games in October 2022?
I dislike all these subscription services. Paying for multiplayer server access with a random sprinkling of games was fine. Just buy the games you actually want, it will be cheaper in the long run.
Remember, sony and microsoft wouldnt push subscriptions unless they made more money from customers through them.
So go out there, be a dinosaur, buy a physical copy. You will actually own it, and can play it as often as you like. Maybe only buy the few games you actually want. Who knows, the market might not be flooded with thousands of games if that happened.
Re: Reaction: We Need to Talk About PS Plus Premium
No Demons souls ps3 still
Re: Poll: Which PS Plus Tier Are You Subscribed To?
Premium, for 7 days then back to essential. No Demons souls ps3 despite being on the EU official site list. Classic list is genuinely poor, where's mgs, ff8, silent hill? where's gitaroo man, rez ps2 version? Where's ff13? Nothing premium about it.
Re: A Handful of Games Separate PS Plus Extra, Premium Lists in USA, Europe
So, if Demon's Souls ps3 is not region exclusive, where is it?
Re: Best PS Plus Games
Did Europe get shafted? Several games missing, ones that are listed on the official page. Demon's Souls ps3 for example.
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium Now Live in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand
No Demon's Souls Ps3. Classic selection feels underwhelming to me. I'll just continue to physically own my games, like the dinosaur I am, thanks.