Sony announced the first updated list of All PS Plus Games coming to PS Plus Extra and PS Plus Premium today, and taken as a whole, it’s a very compelling lineup. When you consider that PS Plus Essential owners already received the likes of Crash Bandicoot 4: It’s About Time, adding 17 recognisable titles – including the hotly anticipated Stray, available day one – is really strong value for money. Most subscribers seem satisfied as a whole.
The issue is that while it could be argued PS Plus Extra is overdelivering, it’s probably fair to say the more expensive PS Plus Premium is underdelivering. This has led to some inevitable over-reactions – we’ve seen a lot of the usual social media hyperbole today – with some members eager to write off Sony’s highest price tier after just one month. Personally, we think it’s far too early to draw those kind of conclusions, but there’s no doubt that just two PSP games is underwhelming.
Of course, it’s important to keep in mind what PS Plus Premium actually is. While it is the highest priced tier, the increase in annual fees from PS Plus Extra isn’t especially large – it costs just £16/$20 more per year to access the highest tier. That’s roughly £1.33/$1.66 extra per month, so it’s obviously not breaking the bank. It’s also not just offering classic games; the main draw of this tier – particularly from Sony’s perspective – is the cloud streaming. You may not like it, of course, but that’s the case – although it should be noted that PS Plus Deluxe members, in regions where cloud streaming isn’t available, only get the games and thus have a much stronger foundation upon which to complain.
Regardless, a slow drip-feed of retro content was always going to frustrate – especially when some would argue the offering was weak to begin with. We’ve enjoyed revisiting the likes of Ape Escape, Syphon Filter, and Wild Arms – but there are hundreds of incredible PS1 and PSP games to choose from, and if this is the rate that the Classic Games catalogue is going to expand, then we’ll be waiting a lifetime to play them.
We can be quietly confident that the likes of Dino Crisis, Ridge Racer 2, and SoulCalibur: Broken Destiny are coming, as they were mentioned in a since edited Italian translation of the PS Blog. This is positive, because it means there is at the very least going to be a steady flow of additions. But the July 2022 inclusions of No Heroes Allowed and LocoRoco Midnight Carnival – two PSP titles we like and actually highly recommend – is not going to cut it alone. If the Italian lineup had been accurate, and we were getting five games instead of two, the optics would be a lot better.
As we mentioned at the top of this article, we’re still waiting to see what the cadence for PS Plus Premium will look like. It’s true that it seems updates will come on the third Tuesday in the month, but we can’t entirely rule out surprise additions just yet – we’ll just have to observe how Sony handles the service. That’s why we’d caution against overreactions right now.
But that’s not to say there isn’t any reason to be concerned – or, at the very least, critical. While we quite like what Sony’s doing with PS1 and PSP in terms of its emulation – rewind and save states are transformative – we’re a little worried that its PS2 library has been entirely untouched since the failed initiative it abandoned on the PS4. Can we ever even expect new PS2 titles to be added?
Personally, we think the platform holder’s onto something with these retro re-releases. We’re seeing huge interest on the site, and our reviews for the classic games are somehow outperforming brand new releases. This is a good thing, and it’s a positive for engagement with PS Plus Premium as well. But we’re going to need to see more each month than a couple of PSP games, no matter how good they are. People are expecting a rapidly expanding catalogue here, and while we think PS Plus Extra is off to a very strong start, it’s currently being undermined by the subdued response to PS Plus Premium overall.
How are you feeling about PS Plus Premium? Did you subscribe to the top tier for retro games, and are you disappointed by the rate at which they’re being added? What would satisfy you on a monthly basis, and what will convince you to remain subscribed? Yearn for a larger catalogue of classic content in the comments section below.
Underwhelming is the least of it. Listen, I’ve had decent fun playing Worms with my brother and a little bit of Tekken 2 but the retro offerings make Nintendo seem generous. The second tier is fantastic value, the top tier is just not at the minute.
I Think People Forget Just How Much Work Has To Be Done Just To Get Most Of these Older Games These Aren't Just Straight Ports.
@Areus It's true, but I suppose people could also argue that the work should have been done prior to launch to build up a large stockpile so they can roll out more each month.
I paid the extra £3 to upgrade until the end of August, just to play Stray and Deliver Us the Moon on PS+ Extra.
Team Buddies or gtfo. And none of that making it only playable with premium. I want to buy it. Regret swapping it as a kid. Was cheap as chips. Now it's expensive.
The PS4 and PS5 offerings are very good so far but the classic area is lacking. Playing PS1 games like Ape Escape and Wild Arms with all these settings is a blast but I want to see more PS1 classics make their way as well as PS2 games. Both consoles have such great libraries I'd love to be able to play them on my PS5. I just really hope Sony sticks to this because it seems like this service can go somewhere but I'm also worried they will give up on classic games real quick.
The fact that it is only an additional $20/yr is an important point but even at that price it doesn't seem to add much value.
It only cost me an extra $50 for almost 9 years so I decided to do it but on paper it seems fairly useless for me. The game trials might be the best part once they actually start appearing for more games.
@get2sammyb It Also Comes Down To Do The Developers And Publishers Still Have The Rights To These Games If They Are Even Still Around. Not To Mention Taking Into Account If They Still Have The Source Code.
Legend of dragoon, dragon valor, Ridge racer, suikoden 1 and 2, resident evil 2, vandal hearts 1 and 2,breath of fire 3 and 4, blasto (that one more of personal a nostalgic fave), ideally with trophies and I'll be all over premium.
I did have a psp, but never built up much attachment, aside from crisis core which is coming anyway.
To be fair getting the games for Extra are probably a bit easier to do since it's just existing PS4 and PS5 games anyway. They don't require any additional work to get up and going as opposed to the legacy titles which probably require a bit more legwork to get working on current consoles and in good shape. Plus there could be more possible legal issues to get around for some of the older games.
Yeah, as an Aussie the 3rd tier is basically useless. Couple of fun nostalgia games but not enough that I'd say it's a worthwhile collection. If you're not old like me and didn't play the likes of Ape Escape when it first came out there's even less to like about it.
All I've ever wanted with this new PS Plus Premium service is for Sony to really give us a lot of classic games. It seems though that there focusing more on PS4 games than PS1, PS2 games. To be honest, it's the PS2 games I'm more interested in over PSP and PS1 games.
Sony have such a vast pool of PS1 and PS2 games I really can't get my head round what the hold up is. A lot of classic games were already on the PS3 store. Where are they? I was a PS Now subscriber before the PS+ update and it seems they took away a number of classic games such as Daytona USA, Crazy Taxi, Sonic games and Golden Axe to name a few. Where are all the Sony published classics?
I'm sure I'll be the outsider here and hit me down if you wish. Despite all the fuss on here and elsewhere about backwards compatibility and playing all the old games the real reality is there is a small minority of PS players that want to play the old games. I'm 49, I have been a gamer forever but I have no interest in playing anything from the past. I have a family, I work, time is precious. If I'm going to play anything it will be something new, something I've never experienced before. Very rarely will I ever play a game twice although I must say I am enjoying the Demons Souls remake! Anyway, enough rambling. Sony know what they are doing, so far it is fantastic. They are not there to pamper to individuals but to the majority, this they are delivering on perfectly so far and I'm sure the majority like myself appreciate the value for money that Sony have given us.
Wow the poll results are negative. Guess my expectations were low. I expected a merger of PS Now and PS Plus for the same price. We got that plus a bunch of additional games added to the service and are about to get Stray available day one. Definitely been pleased so far.
I just bought £100 of psn credit from shopto for £83.70.
When my term expires tomorrow, I will use that credit to buy Premium.
So, for the next year, I would say Premium is going to be very good value for money.
Cos it hasn't cost me anything more than Extra to have it👍
There is absolutely no excuse for there not to be more first party offerings. The majority of classic Sony owned games/IPs should have been front and centre from day one. Where are games like Socom, Warhawk, Champions of Norrath, Colony Wars, etc. This tier could have been bolstered by Sony’s games alone for at least the first few months. I hope I’m wrong, but this tier appears to be an afterthought to make it seem like Sony actually cared about the classics that made them who they are today.
"That’s why we’d caution against overreactions right now."
I don't think you understand how the internet works.
@matikp pretty sure successful companies are capable of keeping more than just 'the majority' happy. I doubt anyone, even people who have no interest in older games are going to be bothered by them being made available.
Extra hasn't been bad but I haven't be able to play any of the games available just yet, hope that changes soon
Deluxe users have reason to complain? Are you kidding? Maybe if they're a diehard PS3 fan. The deluxe tier is even cheaper than the extra tier in the west.
1 year of deluxe in Korea is $66 USD.
I think premium exists mostly to further monetize the streaming capability. It's obvious extra is the real service. Premium doesn't cost that much more but it offers barely a handful of retro games and that's about it. Mostly it's a $20 fee for streaming access. Whether or not that's worth it varies by user. I tend to think streaming is important to me, but in reality a spare console to stream from us probably more useful due to rest mode. But... At $500 that's not happening.
I subscribed to premium because it was only $20 total to the end of my subscription in October.
Frankly I will just be sticking with plus. You get the big catalog of games, And the PS1 library isn't enticing enough right now when I have the option to get them on PS3 for the time being. Speaking of PS3 the whole streaming thing is a big turn off so unless they get a way to actually download the games or I can run them well, It's gonna be a no for me dog
It's terrible ps now has been around for going on 10 years the ps2 classics started in 2015 & is so much worse than the Xbox one's backwards compatibility the only reason I'm subscribed to premium now is because I had ps now which has actually been nerfed & I wouldn't subscribe to premium until there is much much more variety of classics
@matikp this is about the premium tier which is entirely dependent on the classic selection I would say extra is great value for money but premium is aimed at people that want to play the classics from older generations & there's been no effort put into it at all
Very disappointed so far. Should be getting at least one game each from PS1, 2 and PSP every week. No excuses, especially at $120.
At the rate these classics are coming out I'm afraid that no, it won't get there. Especially after what we lost when Now was axed.
I honestly wish they would just put the games up on the store for us to buy the ones we want. Then they can drip feed us all they want for what I care.
Especially ps2 games need to be added.more ps1 and psp games are welcome.word up son
As someone whose primary system is Xbox, and who doesn’t have a ps console, I got the ps plus premium membership to stream some of Sonys big games to my pc. I will say it’s been great playing cloud so far. I’ve played injustice (which surprisingly worked adequately!) and Spider-Man, along with a classic love of mine, Star Wars Bounty Hunter. The only thing I wish it had on the cloud streaming was a search option, and/or a quick reference list. The website says supposedly I can play uncharted the Nathan drake collection, but it turns out that’s only for download on console as there is no streaming option. I ran into this issue with a couple other games as well. But still, it’s a solid opportunity to dip into an ecosystem in the same way I understand many Sony first gamers are doing as they dip into GamePass with a month membership here and there.
Premium is disappointing, even worse in regions where it’s called Deluxe and doesn’t include any PS3 games, however Extra is shaping up to be really really good.
So far it's good for me, even with the update being disappointing. I have played a lot of the games and out of the games that I have been playing, I have streamed the ones that have that capability. So it has been pretty worthwhile for me. If they continue to add such few games to the premium over the next few months I will definitely drop down to extra once my sub is up. But who knows, it's only the first month and there are a lot of good games on the service so we will have to see how it goes. Think of where plus started and where it is now.
I have a feeling it'll be a bit before the service really starts taking off. Just a sluggish start.
In my neck of the woods where PS Deluxe is $155 vs $80 for Essential,the promised legacy psp/ps1/ps2 titles are proving to be few & far between thus far.🤔
Yes,it does take time to add features like rewind etc., but it does feel like the "classic titles" feature was thrown together at the last minute esp.for territories that don't have access to ps now streaming.
That they haven't really added to the ps2 games is a great disappointment,whilst 3rd parties like the Maximo series,Splinter Cell trilogy, Beyond Good & evil would be great,or NFS Underground 2, the SSX series,Burnout,Midnight Club,Gta LCS/VCS if they could pay the licenses...but to not add in-house efforts like the Ratchet and Clank ps2 series or Sly Raccoon is baffling!😑
Likewise the suikoden ps1 games,early FF games, Breath of Fire series ,Alundra, Tomba, Adventures of Lomax,Colony Wars,Rayman & more just makes it feel like a cheap ps1 classic type effort deja vu!
Easy for Mr Ryan to claim retro titles aren't popular when you don't put the effort in to support it.
Where's the communication "what retro games would you like to see?"
There haven’t been any new PS3 games added to the PS Now library in what, 2 years or so? Lots of PS3 games out there that I’d love to see added.
its so very confusing some remasters are in premium and some are not
premium isnt disappointing unless you dont use the vast streaming library then its pretty pointless
Aside from the list of games for premium lacking. The fact that it seems that most of games added will not support trophies. Thats enough to keep me off that tier alone.
£100 a year for their top tier. Absolute bargain.
I’m not feeling any of the tiers. Until there’s new releases I wouldn’t even consider any form of subscription (doesn’t have to be day one as I don’t play day one anyway as even Sony 1st party games need some post release optimisation). I mean they have great games but they’re year/s old and I’ve already played em. So no way I buy in just to hope maybe there’s a AA game “gem” I’ve missed at best case scenario. And those retro games were great in their day but are hoooorrrribbblleeeeee when played today
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£1.33 a month for streaming a tonne of PS3 games, plus a couple of retro additions?
I can see that this is great value for money if streaming were to work well. Personally, I have far too little gaming time, and far to big a backlog, to consider playing any games in a second rate state (streamed), but on paper it’s good value.
Given the above, I’d need more downloadable games to be added to upgrade to premium to consider it then, so more classics.
i don’t care about it or the monthly free tras- i mean , games . i just want new multiplayer games , and for plus to be free.
if i want a game , i’ll buy it straight up
When I first heard about ps premium I genuinely thought I'd be all over it day 1.
As it turned out with the starting line up of games I have no interest in it at all for the time being.
Obviously I'm hoping that will change over time.
Add in Destruction Derby, ridge Racer, GTA 1 (and dare I say it GTA London) and I'll almost certainly get involved
Even the extra tier is underwhelming, but it was the classics I was really interested in and they are beyond bad
As a ps now subscriber we actually lost a lot of ps3 games to begin with so I don’t think underwhelmed describes it well enough
I honestly think its a poor service and not very premium. Extra is where it is at.
They should of already had a huge selection of classic games ready to go to make it premium.
I understand the work what has to go into them but they shouldn't of released premium if the work hadn't been done. Then to 9nly offer 2 games in the next batch and they are psp games is very underwhelming. And having to pay extra just to get demoes of games and a few streamable ps3 titles is a bit of a insult.
Extra is brilliant and I would class extra as the premium service and won't be paying more for a small selection of classic games and game demo's. Maybe of premium had the same amount of games as extra does, then it may of been worth it. But the first month just proves it isn't worth the extra few coins and if its just 2 games each time. Why bother.
We're paying for the premium service right now, so the offerings should be good right now not months down the line. Stop trying to spin the service as good when we all know it's trash at this moment.
Not really to be honest..i'm glad that everybody has an option that will appeal to them as i'm on the extra tier until the end of november and then i'll see if its a viable plan for me..i've tried out a few games that i would have bought eventually and didnt enjoy them so that £15 upgrade has saved me around £150 and i cant argue with that .
Its quite simple though.
Extra gets 12 new games for its first update to an already quite robust selection of games from the get go.
The V.I.P PREMIUM TIER
Still has paid demoes, PS3 streaming games which works ok when it works. A lack luster selection of a couple of classic games and then the update what we have all be waiting for.......
2 PSP games. Hahaha
@tehKAMI it's not trash though. There's a ton of great games, it's an excellent value. Just because people don't like this months lineup doesn't change the fact that the initial offering is full of a ton of great games.
It's disappointing so far. I've gotten more value from the Extra tier than I have the Premium tier.
They need to do something more with the Premium tier. Retro games isn't enough. Steeper discounts on the store, games like Stray being day-one should be for the Premium tier (not saying they change that now, but other games like that). If you get a time-limited thing on the Extra tier, it's a longer time limit on Premium, etc, etc
Like, if their goal was to get more money out of people they've not really tried that hard with the premium tier at all.
I don't regret the upgrade, it wasn't a lot art the moment, and if it's basically the same next year, with little changing between now and then, then I don't think I'll keep it. I'll drop down to the Extra tier. Because I was looking at a £30 cost to upgrade last month, whereas next year it'll be £99. A bit of a difference and without the extra value added to premium, there's no point in it.
Plus, some of the PSOne Classics I already own on PSN and don't even need Premium to play them on my PS5.
I think it's pretty dreadful, honestly. I mean, the launch line-up of "classics" wasn't very good to start with, and a slow drip like this isn't helping at all. They really needed to launch with a bang and then have three or four really solid months of big classic games getting added.
Still, I enjoyed playing Kurushi. Not sure I'd pay over a tenner a month for it like.
@Bez87 VIP Premium tier? You're overselling it a tad, mate.
Extra is really good, Premium will be too but not quite yet. Maybe every single game known to mankind should have been available Day One but that's not the case, so suck it up. If they had of done y'all would've found something else to complain about anyway, even if you'd had to make something up.
That's why I'll most likely never support either the Extra or Premium tier...just not really worth it. So many drawbacks. On top of that, I don't like the idea of paying extra for Sony to tell me when to play my monthly games before they get delisted from the service or before the streaming session gets aborted.
@Milktastrophe The main draw of premium for many people (including myself) is the access to retro games. Retro game offerings are SEVERELY lacking, so yes, it is trash.
I'm all in but it doesn't seem great value at the moment, that said it is only 4 weeks old so I am not judging just yet. My subscription runs to Feb next year so I think after 6 months we will have a better idea of how it will be 🤞
And we're still stuck with PAL versions of the PS1 games as well.
Premium wouldn't be to bad if they launched with 50 or so PS1 and PSP games then 2 or 3 each month wouldn't be so bad. The problem is they are not going to add any more PS3 and PS2 games to premium so it all hinges on the PSP and PS1 games.
Now, I know you all have the attention spans of goldfish (don't worry, I do too), but history lesson time!
when Sony launched their PS1 Classics initiative on PS3, waaaaay back in 2006, before some of you here were born, there were only five (yes, five) titles available day 1. All first party stuff. It didn't get much better for years either, with only one or two new games added per month. It picked up in 2009-2010, with 10 games added per month not being uncommon. They kept that pace up, ending the program with around 265 PS1 titles in 2016, which I consider an impressive number. That's roughly an average of 2.5 games per month over about a 10 year span.
I know a few things are much different this time around, but it looks like Sony is following this same exact template so far (the five games they released in '06 on day 1 are mostly the same as those released day 1 on Premium, with the exception of Crash Bandicoot).
So the news is good and bad, depending on how you look at it. I think they are operating out of the same exact playback this time around, meaning two things:
1.) Don't expect a huge flood of classics on Premium at any one time - best you can hope for is maybe two games per system, per month (at first). And:
2.) They will consistently release games over time, and it will ramp up after a year or two, leading to an impressive catalogue in 5 to 10 years' time. So it will be extensive... someday. But not tomorrow, and not next year. If you are paying for Premium now, consider yourself to have been charged an early adopter tax.
I am disappointed as having upgraded to premium I find that although I had successfully been able to stream games through "now" in the past, with premium I have been unable to stream a single game as I just get a message to say my Internet speed is too low. I feel I should have been informed of a minimum speed requirement for the streaming to function before I committed to paying for a service I am unable to access. I haven't tried the game trial yet, can anyone tell me if the time limit starts when you have completed the download or when you begin the download? If it's the latter then this service will also be useless to me, as it can take over 24 hours for me to download a 50Gb game.
Timer starts when you actually boot up the game. Time to download doesn't count. 👍 Keep in mind time varies by game (1 to 5 hrs) and only a select few game trials are currently available (16 titles as of this writing).
@tehKAMI naw, there's a ton of great retro games available. You need to not be afraid to stream the PS3 games.
I know it’s poor, but I would probably be far more likely to play Classic titles if they were to have Trophy support. With the way gamers are rewarded with trophies, I just couldn’t see myself playing a game, no matter how good, from 20 odd years ago with no trophies to show for it.. When the service was first announced, I imagined games like Metal Gear, Silent Hill, Tekken 1-3 and the first 2 Dino Crisis games all being replayed by myself to add shiny platinums to my collection, but as I own all these games physically, I would be far better just playing them on my PS2 if it adds nothing new to that effect. As it stands, I’m just going to stay on the bottom tier PS Plus.
That's a pretty fair appraisal.
PS+ Extra is a really compelling service upgrade for a lot of people right now. The bulk of that service being a large games library of around 400 games crucially with several big hitters Returnal, Demon's Souls, AC: Valhalla, RDR2 etc. with lots of newer niche titles and some interesting ones coming like Stray Day 1.
Whereas PS+ Premium's library is also around 400 games but it lacks the big hitters that really sell the service. Little jumps out at me to be played over newer games or those on PS+ Extra. But as you rightly said there are other things like streaming included, it isn't JUST the library of games. All in all while I think it could be much better, primarily having far more, and better, PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP and Vita games it also does seems like enough for the minor £16 a year premium to me.
But it's difficult for me to be objective I have PS+ Premium for 4 years through the PS Now loophole so the whole package represents great value to me right now. Additionally I don't look at the library and say this is an Extra game, this is a Premium game, it's all just part of the whole for me.
Thanks for clearing that up for me, I'll give it a go and hopefully get some value from my premium.👍
I am only subscribed to Extra, rather than Premium, because almost everything that appeals to me is on Extra. There's maybe 2 games on Premium currently that I want to play more than anything in my existing backlog, so either when I'm done with my backlog, or more likely a couple of months before I'm due to renew, I'll upgrade to Premium, play those, and then let me sub lapse and resub back at Extra, which is astonishingly good value for money.
For me, I've not console gamed for years, so the offering for me is well received. I have missed so many games over the recent years and now the premium service gives me the opportunity to catch up and for what I consider a reasonable price.
Also, 3 PS5 games that were on my wishlist are great value for money; Demon Souls, Returnal and Ghost of Tsushima means that I'm a happy chappy right now 😊
Now I love me some classics, I do... I've already revisited old classics such as Syphon Filter and Tekken 2, but the offering here is weak and this is where there is definitely room for improvement. There are some real gems that Sony could drop that would please older gamers and hopefully, bring enjoyment to the younger gamers who didn't have the chance to play them the first time round.
I suppose, I'm happy for now, a good foundation to build from - just hoping for some more classics and hopefully game offerings rotate and stay fresh.
It's not even been a month yet......
I got Premium because of a PlayStation Now subscription, but when it ends in November I will switch to Extra. It’s a better deal for me.
I like the streaming but they need to make it more accessible. Xbox Game Pass works on pretty much anything these days, even smart TVs. PS+ cloud streaming only has a PC app and that doesn't even recognise the Dualsense.
I have it until Feb and at this rate I probably won't be renewing it. I've never been a classic games guy tbh but any I like the look of that I haven't played (shockingly) like Ape Escape and Syphon Filter, I'll play them. I don't mind the cloud streaming either. I'd love more EA titles added though. Skate games etc.
@Bionic-Spencer Absolutely this. I would have gone for Premium solely for a Toy Story 2 plat, but it doesn't have trophies. Very disappointing.
Extra has been fantastic value so far! I do believe Premium will get better, its obvs just going to take a bit of time as things need to get ported / converted etc
At the moment i think i wont be renewing premium, i think extra at the moment is where the value is for me. The classic games are ok but think ill just hold on to the memories of playing them rather ghan tarnish my memories. But maybe once the free trials get added on that might sway me, but atm extra is where i will be
i think they're simply working more on the emulator side before rolling out more titles. especially when it comes to PS2. it wouldnt be bad on itself if they werent essentially asking people to pay upfront for something that wont come out for at least a couple of months...
Who even has TIME to play hundreds of games plus current gen games that keep coming out, and free games every friggen month! LOL.. "Drinking the Kool-Aid" has now become the norm!!
If the PS1 version of Caslevania Symphony of the Night was available to download and play then Premium might be worth it, but I'm planning to downgrade to the mid tier
I said before and I will say it again, premium is waste of money for what it is
@matikp Thats all well and good, but it doesn’t stop their premium service being bad.
I am actually not into old games, but I enjoyed some Wild Arms.
Other than that my biggest point for Premium are the game trials that would save me a lot of money in the long run.
I'm subscribed to PS+ Premium until April 2027, so my view will be a lil' bit biased...
So far I've been enjoying it, recently platinumed Syphon Filter (PS4) and I added a bunch of games I didn't already own to my PSN library.
I do agree that there could have been more games at launch though, but I'm sure they'll be adding some quality games over time. July alone looks great on the PS4/PS5 front imo.
Premium, so far is weak. Super weak in fact.
The classic selection is hilariously slim. For some reason even the Killzone games were removed, which was a series I wanted to play. Resistance only has the third game available.
Of course I know that a year from now I will be satisfied with the classic titles offering, but right now I am not. In particular because half the classic games don't even have trophies (I know it's not Sony's fault).
Let's see where this goes...
@KidBoruto I know, right? July seems like a good month (can't wait for Stray).
I DO believe the service will be getting better over time. But how much time will it be? That's the question...
So far it’s a little rough. I’ve played a few things but only for a few minutes each. I payed for the too premium level for a year. But after it’s up I’m going to go back down to the base level just to get the free games a online play. I already have game pass and I find that I don’t use that enough either. I have a problem being paralyzed by choice. I do better when I buy the games that I’m interested in as they come out or go on sale. Maybe if it gets better down the road I will feel differently but as of now. It’s not great.
I haven't paid attention at all to what my membership actually gets me so apologies if this is a ridiculously stupid question. Can you buy these games and keep them if you like them?
What I really want from the service is the cloud gaming brought to mobile devices for Android and iOS. This to me is the next step to make me want to keep that line up.
Once my PSP and PS3 were gone I emulated PS1/PS2 and honestly I'd rather just continue to do that. I had a huge digital library on both systems that so far has almost zero rep on the new service. I mean I was able to download Wild Arms for free lol. So far the service seems incredibly shallow. I buy my games anyhow and aren't really interested in the GamePass copy here so I don't think this will ever live up to anything I'd want to participate in.
@get2sammyb if they pushed back the PS+ launch so they could get more work done on the Classics prior to launch, then people would just complain that it's taking too long to launch. You can never satisfy everyone. The internet will complain no matter what.
When you buy annually it is like $20 USD a year. I don't need a mountain of value for $20 a year.
No Demons souls ps3 still
@HarmanSmith Hopefully not too long of a wait, I spent $300 to stack 5 years of PS Now before the conversion...
Subscribed to Deluxe but will downgrade to Extra eventually if the PS1 catalog is not expanded. It's just not worth it... like, I installed the three games I was interested in - Resident Evil, Abe's Odyssey and Syphon Filter. Played a bit Abe's Odyssey and deleted it as I completed it in Steam half a year ago. Two games remain. Once I complete it, that would be it.
We need instructions on how to downgrade PS+ tier properly. Say, if my Deluxe ends on 01/06/2023, how to continue with Extra from 02/06/2023? Should I switch to Extra beforehand, or should I disable auto-renewal and wait until my Deluxe just ends, and then buy Extra as if had not subscribed to PS+ at all?
I upgraded from essential to deluxe, since it was almost nothing for the remaining period of my subscription. I don't know if I'll continue with the deluxe after that. These days I don't have so much time to play, but in general I do think that it will get better with time. On the plus side is....more and more games to be streamed, and not take so much space on my console, but I was also happy with the PS PLUS (now PS essential), and there were so many games to go through.
I can't comment as 0nly have ps+ essential I don't game enough to justify the price. As busy with studying and working out during the week. Plus I don't like the business model thst game change every 3/4 months
When people put out comparisons of the services they often forget that Game Pass, while considered a superior service, also costs over £30 more annually than the highest Plus tier. Perhaps Sony may offer a "lesser" subscription (that has more games), but it also offers it at a cheaper price as well. Perhaps something to think about.
As a service that is on a yearly basis it way to EARLY to judge the service on ONE month only!
@BeerIsAwesome Xbox don’t block third party sellers so you can get it cheaper; unlike Sony. Not to dispute your point at all but just something to bare in mind.
Premium is useless for me. You have to remember the pool of games for Premium is also finite; so they have to really slowly roll them out like Nintendo (also look at GWG and BC games on Xbox; it has finally dried up due to licensing issues etc). Extra can always rotate in new games as new games are always coming out.
Counterpoint: no, we don't.
I bought so ridiculous many games the last couple of years for the playstation that there're hardly any games available on playstation extra or premium that I didn't already buy. So I stick to essential for the foreseeable future.
@BeerIsAwesome Is that taking into account the "buy Xbox Live Gold for N years, then pay $1 to upgrade the whole time period to Game Pass Premium" loophole Microsoft has apparently continued to allow?
@K1LLEGAL That's fair. That's just a different way of doing business.
@MiaowMinx Anyone who would take them up on that offer probably already has by now. For what it's worth, my recently renewed Plus coupled with the 30 seconds left on my Now saved me about £45 in upgrade fees, so I guess it all shakes out in the end.
I'm not excusing Sony from any criticism but doesn't Nintendo "drip feed" their retro titles as well? Or did that get better after time?
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