@TrollOfWar Most PS5 user don't even play the exclusives, so their point is completely invalid. The "fans" are what, 5% or 10%?Everyone else they just don't care
There are a lot of benefits, no reason to mention them again, but this will be a very niche product, more than Steam Deck is.
1. It is a PC first and foremost. it will never be as plug and play as PS5 or Switch.
2. It plays PC games over a compatibility layer, if there is no Linux native version. Most of them unoptimized for the device.
4. You have issues, plug a keyboard and mouse and be ready to troubleshoot.
5. It does not support any game with kernel-level anti-cheat, and the most popular multiplayer titles have.
6. No retail presence, like Steam Deck. You can find PS and Switch consoles and games in every retailer across the world. People aware of this device are only hardcore gamers, so the market is really limited.
7. A bit more technical matter. It baffles me that Steam OS is based on Arch Linux, which targets enthusiasts and is the most bleeding edge Linux distribution. I don't know how they handle updates for Steam OS, but for Arch and Arch-based distributions many times they release broken updates.
It may compete with the next Xbox, but there is no chance Gabecube or Steam Desk to compete with the juggernauts PlayStation and Nintendo are. YouTubers create a lot of noise around these devices, but will never reach the levels of user-friendliness and presence the 2 have. Switch 2 surpassed Deck's sales within a couple of weeks. PS6 will do the same.
Good. Tried to get back to platinum GoT 3 times now, but it's just boring. Not every open world need checklists, Cyberpunk, Witcher and Elden Ring done it right
Diminishing returns is an issue across the industry, including PC. With your rationale they should have released PS4 in 2017, 11 years after PS3, and PS5 in 2025. Or they release them on time, but with an increased cost.
also apart from this site and a few youtubers, no one cares, not even Sony, that this thing can play their exclusives. They are on the PC market for some years now.
/facepalm.... as many mentioned, this is a PC handheld with a XBox sticker. Check you sister site on what you can play on it https://www.purexbox.com/guides/what-games-can-you-play-on-the-rog-xbox-ally-handheld There is nothing special or extra from a "simple" ROG Ally. Game Pass for PC, not XBox. Your Xbox games only in there are "play anywhere". There is a high chance games you have purchased not being playable. Really low effort from MS to enter a niche market. They market the new UI overlay, but I bet it will be available in other devices sooner or later. It may trick people into buying it and dominate this specific expensive market of ~5-6m devices...
Sorry to burst the bubble, but GoW (the last 2 at least that I have played) have many Metroidvania elements. Metroidvania games are not necessarily 2D, the concept works fine on 3D. So these news are no surprise for me, and add some variety in PS library
@VaultGuy415 hyperbolic to ask a fixed game all these years later? For almost full price of a new game release? The problem is in your comment, I refuse to see and pay bugs as features.
@Rich33 I can tolerate some performance issues on a good game, oblivion was never a good game thought. Outdated gameplay since original release. It’s also unforgivable to not fix bugs from the original, when modders done it. Modders made Bethesda a worse company, as they rely on them to fix stuff
Where is the none option? It’s the worst remaster attempt ever seen. Cheap and rushed. Addresses almost none of the issues of the original, runs like crap, only milking millennials’ nostalgia.
@somnambulance we millennials are nostalgia driven morons…we’ll throw away money to anything feeds our nostalgia and supposedly return us back to these golden years. We’ll pay almost full price for cheap soulless bug ridden remasters, yes looking at you TES IV, and won’t support progress and innovation. Apart from a couple of games, most FF have excellent battle systems. But for some reason, holding X is better because that’s how it was
I struggle to understand what these “fans” are asking. If you are an FF fan, you have to accept this is a series that constantly innovates, sometimes works some others not. Turn based, ATB, Gambit, hybrid, full action, materia, job systems and goes on. Every single entry is different, and that’s the beauty of the series. We loved the great ones, we loved the quirky ones, some more some less. Going back to turn based does not guarantee success. I think true fans didn’t like it after SE lost it a bit during PS3 era. MMOs, too much of Fabula Nova Crystalis games, but this won’t change by returning back to turn based. Story, characters, party build are more important
I'm not sure why you underestimate PlayStation cloud Streaming in these news posts? A fairly recent DF analysis indicates it's probably the best cloud service, at least for consoles. Sony should try harder to promote this and Portal. If MS had it, marketing would be all over it.
@get2sammyb it's a bit strange situation here. Bluepoint can do it, and I think they done a great job with Demon Souls, but quite a few people were vocal that something was amiss from the atmosphere, art etc. Bloodborne being a larger IP, do they give to Bluepoint and risk or they just wait when the resources are available from From to commit to the project? I still think/hope they do not remake it, but rather strike a deal to develop 2 and just do a quick remaster for PS5 and PC to get people hooked. I don't think Sony does not like money, or having a specific issue with this IP to be on PC. I think they care a lot more lately for PC ports done right. Latest PC releases have been exceptional.
@gymratAmarillo tried it years ago just because of the pirate theme, never clicked. single player is almost unplayable but an option. also can't really continue from where you left, it's like a new generated world every time you login. only enjoyed the sailing part and water physics.
BTW, why they call this XBOX exclusive? I got it on Steam, and doesn't need a MS client to play, just an account
I appreciate a bit of help with Rebirth, as I cannot find a straight answer. I'm currently replaying Remake in hard mode, and still haven't played the DLC and Crisis Core. Seeing Zack having a role in Rebirth, is it essential to play the DLC and Crisis Core? I launched Rebirth and closed it after 2 minutes, as I thought I'm missing something from the new story. Have played original like 10 times since '97, but I want to experience this as new, and I feel playing them before Rebirth is essential somehow.
@windxtravelerx forspoken and FFVIIR are using different engines. Forspoken uses the FFXV engine I think, while FFVIIR is build on Unreal 4. Not sure which engine is used for XVI. It's probably easier to fix something with your own engine. Still no excuse from SE not optimising. Same goes to FROM. Still play the ps4 version of elden ring in PS5
@naruball exactly, what moderation? You can blame ps for some low quality games made to ps store, but this is a whole other level. Steam has alot of dodgy listings. Personally I use it if I have no ther choice. GOG is my preference for PC games
Tired of hearing all these "WE NEED PS5 PRO" comments. SE and Japanese in general are notoriously for either poorly optimising graphics or scaling down. The focus is on gameplay, and guess what, they are great at it. PRO won't fix anything here. With the current situation in the industry, PRO will be DOA, as no game can justify the purchase. SE obviously has either limited budget, or are struggling to provide the graphic quality they used to. It's not the same company as 2 decades ago. But still their games a good and fun, so who cares about the neckbeards counting pixels?
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Re: 'Very Vague' Rumour Claims Sony May Scale Back PC Ports of PS5 Games
@TrollOfWar Most PS5 user don't even play the exclusives, so their point is completely invalid. The "fans" are what, 5% or 10%?Everyone else they just don't care
Re: Poll: Does the Steam Machine Pose a Threat to PS5?
There are a lot of benefits, no reason to mention them again, but this will be a very niche product, more than Steam Deck is.
1. It is a PC first and foremost. it will never be as plug and play as PS5 or Switch.
2. It plays PC games over a compatibility layer, if there is no Linux native version. Most of them unoptimized for the device.
4. You have issues, plug a keyboard and mouse and be ready to troubleshoot.
5. It does not support any game with kernel-level anti-cheat, and the most popular multiplayer titles have.
6. No retail presence, like Steam Deck. You can find PS and Switch consoles and games in every retailer across the world. People aware of this device are only hardcore gamers, so the market is really limited.
7. A bit more technical matter. It baffles me that Steam OS is based on Arch Linux, which targets enthusiasts and is the most bleeding edge Linux distribution. I don't know how they handle updates for Steam OS, but for Arch and Arch-based distributions many times they release broken updates.
It may compete with the next Xbox, but there is no chance Gabecube or Steam Desk to compete with the juggernauts PlayStation and Nintendo are. YouTubers create a lot of noise around these devices, but will never reach the levels of user-friendliness and presence the 2 have. Switch 2 surpassed Deck's sales within a couple of weeks. PS6 will do the same.
Re: Talking Point: Will PlayStation's Mobile Push Be a Success or a Flop?
if it makes them money and not meddle with PS5 development I don't care
Re: These Are All 2,800+ PS5 Games You Can Stream Directly to PS Portal Now
@Vivisapprentice no love for us down under, else I would buy it in a heartbeat
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Gets Massive Free PS5, PS4 Update as Series Tops 100 Million Units
Big fan until GT4, wake me up when they introduce a proper career mode again. GT7 career feels like something out of a mobile game
Re: 'We Won't Make You Do the Same Thing Over and Over': Ghost of Yotei PS5 Will Keep You Guessing
Good. Tried to get back to platinum GoT 3 times now, but it's just boring. Not every open world need checklists, Cyberpunk, Witcher and Elden Ring done it right
Re: Rumour: Sony Engineers Allegedly Helping Rockstar Achieve 60fps in GTA 6 on PS5 Pro
Diminishing returns is an issue across the industry, including PC.
With your rationale they should have released PS4 in 2017, 11 years after PS3, and PS5 in 2025. Or they release them on time, but with an increased cost.
Re: Atlus JRPG Metaphor: ReFantazio Tags on 1 Million Sales Since Launch
Wasn't day one on Game Pass, and heavily marketed by XBox? that explains these numbers
Re: Bungie Delays Marathon Indefinitely, No New PS5, PC Release Date Given
@Kairuuu they trusted Bungie advising them that it wouldn't be profitable, only to push their game...
Re: The Next Xbox Is a PC, So What Does That Mean for PS6?
Welcome to our console future, all your 3rd party launchers in our place!
Re: Yep, PlayStation's PC Games Will Be Playable on Xbox's New Handheld System
also apart from this site and a few youtubers, no one cares, not even Sony, that this thing can play their exclusives. They are on the PC market for some years now.
Re: Yep, PlayStation's PC Games Will Be Playable on Xbox's New Handheld System
/facepalm.... as many mentioned, this is a PC handheld with a XBox sticker. Check you sister site on what you can play on it https://www.purexbox.com/guides/what-games-can-you-play-on-the-rog-xbox-ally-handheld There is nothing special or extra from a "simple" ROG Ally. Game Pass for PC, not XBox. Your Xbox games only in there are "play anywhere". There is a high chance games you have purchased not being playable. Really low effort from MS to enter a niche market. They market the new UI overlay, but I bet it will be available in other devices sooner or later. It may trick people into buying it and dominate this specific expensive market of ~5-6m devices...
Re: Rumour: Greek God of War Game Is a 2.5D Metroidvania
Sorry to burst the bubble, but GoW (the last 2 at least that I have played) have many Metroidvania elements. Metroidvania games are not necessarily 2D, the concept works fine on 3D. So these news are no surprise for me, and add some variety in PS library
Re: Poll: Which Bethesda RPG Needs an Oblivion-Style Remaster Next?
@VaultGuy415 hyperbolic to ask a fixed game all these years later? For almost full price of a new game release? The problem is in your comment, I refuse to see and pay bugs as features.
Re: Poll: Which Bethesda RPG Needs an Oblivion-Style Remaster Next?
@Rich33 I can tolerate some performance issues on a good game, oblivion was never a good game thought. Outdated gameplay since original release. It’s also unforgivable to not fix bugs from the original, when modders done it. Modders made Bethesda a worse company, as they rely on them to fix stuff
Re: Poll: Which Bethesda RPG Needs an Oblivion-Style Remaster Next?
Where is the none option? It’s the worst remaster attempt ever seen. Cheap and rushed. Addresses almost none of the issues of the original, runs like crap, only milking millennials’ nostalgia.
Re: Expedition 33's Sublime Success Sparks Chatter About Final Fantasy's Future
@somnambulance we millennials are nostalgia driven morons…we’ll throw away money to anything feeds our nostalgia and supposedly return us back to these golden years. We’ll pay almost full price for cheap soulless bug ridden remasters, yes looking at you TES IV, and won’t support progress and innovation. Apart from a couple of games, most FF have excellent battle systems. But for some reason, holding X is better because that’s how it was
Re: Expedition 33's Sublime Success Sparks Chatter About Final Fantasy's Future
I struggle to understand what these “fans” are asking. If you are an FF fan, you have to accept this is a series that constantly innovates, sometimes works some others not. Turn based, ATB, Gambit, hybrid, full action, materia, job systems and goes on. Every single entry is different, and that’s the beauty of the series. We loved the great ones, we loved the quirky ones, some more some less. Going back to turn based does not guarantee success. I think true fans didn’t like it after SE lost it a bit during PS3 era. MMOs, too much of Fabula Nova Crystalis games, but this won’t change by returning back to turn based. Story, characters, party build are more important
Re: Hands On: PS Plus Cloud Streaming Is a Game Changer for PS Portal
I'm not sure why you underestimate PlayStation cloud Streaming in these news posts?
A fairly recent DF analysis indicates it's probably the best cloud service, at least for consoles. Sony should try harder to promote this and Portal. If MS had it, marketing would be all over it.
Re: Hidetaka Miyazaki 'Knows for a Fact' FromSoftware Devs Want a Bloodborne PC Port
@get2sammyb it's a bit strange situation here. Bluepoint can do it, and I think they done a great job with Demon Souls, but quite a few people were vocal that something was amiss from the atmosphere, art etc. Bloodborne being a larger IP, do they give to Bluepoint and risk or they just wait when the resources are available from From to commit to the project? I still think/hope they do not remake it, but rather strike a deal to develop 2 and just do a quick remaster for PS5 and PC to get people hooked. I don't think Sony does not like money, or having a specific issue with this IP to be on PC. I think they care a lot more lately for PC ports done right. Latest PC releases have been exceptional.
Re: Talking Point: State of Play May 2024 Predictions - What's Next for PS5?
Shadow drop Bloodborne Remaster PS5 and PC to break the Steam charts
Re: Sea of Thieves Reportedly a 'Key Test' for More Xbox Games on PS5
@gymratAmarillo tried it years ago just because of the pirate theme, never clicked. single player is almost unplayable but an option. also can't really continue from where you left, it's like a new generated world every time you login. only enjoyed the sailing part and water physics.
BTW, why they call this XBOX exclusive? I got it on Steam, and doesn't need a MS client to play, just an account
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth?
I appreciate a bit of help with Rebirth, as I cannot find a straight answer. I'm currently replaying Remake in hard mode, and still haven't played the DLC and Crisis Core. Seeing Zack having a role in Rebirth, is it essential to play the DLC and Crisis Core? I launched Rebirth and closed it after 2 minutes, as I thought I'm missing something from the new story. Have played original like 10 times since '97, but I want to experience this as new, and I feel playing them before Rebirth is essential somehow.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Graphical Problems Are Clear in Digital Foundry Report
@windxtravelerx forspoken and FFVIIR are using different engines. Forspoken uses the FFXV engine I think, while FFVIIR is build on Unreal 4. Not sure which engine is used for XVI. It's probably easier to fix something with your own engine. Still no excuse from SE not optimising. Same goes to FROM. Still play the ps4 version of elden ring in PS5
Re: Two Games Pretended to Be Helldivers 2 in Sneaky Steam Page Scam
@naruball exactly, what moderation? You can blame ps for some low quality games made to ps store, but this is a whole other level. Steam has alot of dodgy listings. Personally I use it if I have no ther choice. GOG is my preference for PC games
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Graphical Problems Are Clear in Digital Foundry Report
Tired of hearing all these "WE NEED PS5 PRO" comments. SE and Japanese in general are notoriously for either poorly optimising graphics or scaling down. The focus is on gameplay, and guess what, they are great at it. PRO won't fix anything here. With the current situation in the industry, PRO will be DOA, as no game can justify the purchase. SE obviously has either limited budget, or are struggling to provide the graphic quality they used to. It's not the same company as 2 decades ago. But still their games a good and fun, so who cares about the neckbeards counting pixels?
Re: PS4 Pro Boost Mode Tested on The Witcher 3, Bloodborne, and More
is PS4 pro in normal and boost mode as noisy as launch PS4?
Re: No, This Probably Isn't a Teaser for a New Fallout Game
how can anyone see this and link it to a Fallout game? more LOTR to my eyes