To me, it was good, as I'm certainly interested in 007 First Light, Pragmata, Sword of the Sea, Ghost of Yotei, and Thief PSVR2, but not at all in the other announcements. Also, I wished they finished with something bigger, like a Saros or Intergalactic gameplay trailer, or maybe a Horizon 3 teaser or Horizon Online announcement.
For me to pay for such multiplayer games (i.e. games that rely on popularity to be playable at all), it would have to be one of the top 5 best games in existence. As for this generic-looking, trend-chasing game, it would have to be either free-to-play or super cheap to gain a sustainable player base, given the saturated market of all the currently popular (and higher-quality) multiplayer games, live-service or not, since they appeal to the same type of players.
Interesting (and even unique?) art style, but certainly not for me, as I have no interest in multiplayer games. That said, I hope that they make good use of early feedback and that it doesn't fail, for Sony and Bungie's sakes.
YouTube comment says they removed the shadows in the 2024 version for this comparison video to make the 2025 improvement look more significant. Is that true?
@Casco They said "We currently have no plans for PS5 Pro patch", which doesn't necessarily mean they will never do it. Their plans might change in the future after all. And yes, PSVR2 support would be amazing, but much less likely than a potential Pro enhancement patch.
If their single-player experiences are so "cutting-edge", why aren't they enhancing Cyberpunk 2077 for PS5 Pro, e.g. by adding PSSR and/or more RT effects (maybe as options)?
@heavyartillery56 Also, 30 FPS looks more stuttery on OLED displays in general (compared to older display technologies) due to OLED's near-instant pixel response time ("sample and hold").
@Zeke68 Thanks for the response. To see if I could find anything, I checked the EU PS blog site archives in Wayback Machine (linked below), where blog posts end on 2020/05/28 (when that site merge probably happened as there are only redirect pages archived soon after), and couldn't find any blog posts archived in 2020 (or 2019) with Returnal or Housemarque in the URL. FWIW, the game was apparently announced on 2020/06/11, so that might not be surprising.
@Zeke68 I haven't heard of such a player-specific world seed that would consistently make it more difficult for some. Do you remember which Returnal blog post you read that in? https://blog.playstation.com/tag/returnal/ FYI, weapon level number is determined based on your current weapon proficiency number when you find the weapon. So, you can't find a high-level weapon at the beginning (i.e. when you have low proficiency). And each different type of weapon only spawns after you find that type of weapon for the first time at its corresponding discovery biome and room (assuming that room spawns in your current cycle).
The Crew Motorfest looks great on the Pro, too, with a single mode running at 60 FPS, 1696p typical resolution upscaled to 2160p with a good implementation of PSSR. (Apparently, it's also free to play until December 12, 2024.)
My guess: it will play digital PS4 & PS5 games locally (on device) and PS6 games via cloud or Remote Play, all at 1080p resolution up to 60 FPS, with the same form factor as PS Portal, but heavier (thicker behind the screen), sold for $400 + tax in the US (possibly more if it's affected significantly by tariffs).
@xDD90x Indeed. I would have expected better from Push Square. If it's explicitly confirmed somewhere that restoring a PS5 backup on PS5 Pro wouldn't work, they should have at least linked to a source for that unexpected claim.
Another issue with making a portable version of PS4 would be the save file of each game being separate from that of its PS5 version, which would prevent seamlessly switching between playing on this hypothetical portable and playing on the PS5 (like you can with the Portal) unless you're OK with playing the PS4 version of the game on PS5, which would mean missing out on PS5 improvements over PS4, like better performance and image quality, DualSense features, 3D audio, etc.
Planning to play it on PS5 Pro, after it hopefully gets a bespoke patch for improved performance and image quality. Have too much of a backlog currently anyway.
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Re: Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice PS5 Upgrades Are Finally Getting Parole from Xbox Jail
Edit: Looks like the first game will also be PS5 Pro enhanced: https://xcancel.com/ninjatheory/status/1937921268776313055
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate State of Play for June 2025?
To me, it was good, as I'm certainly interested in 007 First Light, Pragmata, Sword of the Sea, Ghost of Yotei, and Thief PSVR2, but not at all in the other announcements. Also, I wished they finished with something bigger, like a Saros or Intergalactic gameplay trailer, or maybe a Horizon 3 teaser or Horizon Online announcement.
Re: Rumour: New Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 Patch Will Release Alongside Switch 2 Version
@Bamila Or at least PSSR support on the Pro for higher quality upscaling. A new balanced (40 FPS) mode would also be nice.
Re: Poll: Do You Care About the Death of PS Stars?
@belmont You only get points if you're subscribed to PS+.
Re: PS5, PC Live Service Fairgames Is a 'Super Clunky' Cross Between Fortnite and The Division
For me to pay for such multiplayer games (i.e. games that rely on popularity to be playable at all), it would have to be one of the top 5 best games in existence. As for this generic-looking, trend-chasing game, it would have to be either free-to-play or super cheap to gain a sustainable player base, given the saturated market of all the currently popular (and higher-quality) multiplayer games, live-service or not, since they appeal to the same type of players.
Re: Remember Chrono Odyssey, That Insane Looking PS5 Action MMORPG? It's Finally Back
Too bad it's an MMO.
Re: Poll: Are You Disappointed by the GTA 6 Delay?
Let them cook.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 579
Checking out the new Pro patch for Returnal, in the tower. Looks so crisp now. 🤌
Re: First PS Plus Extra Game for June 2025 Confirmed
@MisterWhen FYI, Remedy said here that you can play it solo:
https://xcancel.com/ControlRemedy/status/1909607165926715492
Re: Indiana Jones and the Great Circle (PS5) - Globe-Trotting Adventure Just Got Even Better on PS5
Already preordered.
Re: Bungie's New PS5 Shooter Marathon Grabs September Release Date
Interesting (and even unique?) art style, but certainly not for me, as I have no interest in multiplayer games. That said, I hope that they make good use of early feedback and that it doesn't fail, for Sony and Bungie's sakes.
Re: This Niche PS5 Franchise Is Getting a Staggering Graphics Upgrade
YouTube comment says they removed the shadows in the 2024 version for this comparison video to make the 2025 improvement look more significant. Is that true?
Re: You'll Be Able to Transfer Your Cyberpunk 2077 Progress from PS5 to Switch 2
@Bamila I haven't heard anything about it since they tweeted "We currently have no plans for PS5 Pro patch" on Nov 20, 2024.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Is Teasing Something, But No One Knows What
@Casco They said "We currently have no plans for PS5 Pro patch", which doesn't necessarily mean they will never do it. Their plans might change in the future after all. And yes, PSVR2 support would be amazing, but much less likely than a potential Pro enhancement patch.
Re: PSVR2 Owners, It's Time to Immerse Yourself in the Headset's Best New Game
Does it actually benefit from running on PS5 Pro compared to PS5 (as the PS5 Pro Enhanced label on its VR upgrade's store page suggests)?
Re: The Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Commits to 'Cutting-Edge Single-Player' Games Amidst Live Service Madness
If their single-player experiences are so "cutting-edge", why aren't they enhancing Cyberpunk 2077 for PS5 Pro, e.g. by adding PSSR and/or more RT effects (maybe as options)?
Re: Six Major PSVR2 Games Announced as Headset Gets Huge Price Drop
@CrackmanNL I see. In that case, I'd include "from Flat2VR Studios" in the title for clarity, just like in the source blog post.
Re: Six Major PSVR2 Games Announced as Headset Gets Huge Price Drop
Wasn't Hitman's PSVR2 version also newly announced, and isn't that a major one? Why was it left out?
Re: RoboCop Returns in Unfinished Business, a Standalone Rogue City Expansion for PS5
While they are at it, I hope they also enhance the game for PS5 Pro, e.g. adding PSSR support.
Re: Video: Monster Hunter Wilds Graphics Compared on PS5 and PS5 Pro
@heavyartillery56 Also, 30 FPS looks more stuttery on OLED displays in general (compared to older display technologies) due to OLED's near-instant pixel response time ("sample and hold").
Re: Housemarque's New PS5 Game Will Be a Little Less Punishing Than Returnal
@Zeke68 Thanks for the response. To see if I could find anything, I checked the EU PS blog site archives in Wayback Machine (linked below), where blog posts end on 2020/05/28 (when that site merge probably happened as there are only redirect pages archived soon after), and couldn't find any blog posts archived in 2020 (or 2019) with Returnal or Housemarque in the URL. FWIW, the game was apparently announced on 2020/06/11, so that might not be surprising.
https://tinyurl.com/yc5mchbb
Re: Lushfoil Photography Sim Is a Stunning Exploration Game, Coming to PS5 in April
Looks nice. Any news on this being "PS5 Pro Enhanced"?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 568
Astro Bot, now that it's updated for PS5 Pro.
Re: Housemarque's New PS5 Game Will Be a Little Less Punishing Than Returnal
@Zeke68 Can you share your link to that blog post anyway, as the link or the title within the link could still help find it in an Internet archive?
Re: Housemarque's New PS5 Game Will Be a Little Less Punishing Than Returnal
@Zeke68 I haven't heard of such a player-specific world seed that would consistently make it more difficult for some. Do you remember which Returnal blog post you read that in? https://blog.playstation.com/tag/returnal/
FYI, weapon level number is determined based on your current weapon proficiency number when you find the weapon. So, you can't find a high-level weapon at the beginning (i.e. when you have low proficiency). And each different type of weapon only spawns after you find that type of weapon for the first time at its corresponding discovery biome and room (assuming that room spawns in your current cycle).
Re: Helldivers 2 Got a Significant PS5 Pro Upgrade and the Dev Didn't Say Anything
@Americansamurai1 Freedom would look even better if they added PSSR (latest version).
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 563
I'm halfway through Hogwarts Legacy. Performance mode (uncapped frame rate) looks and performs great on PS5 Pro, FWIW.
Re: Random: Kanye West Is Playing The Last of Us 2 on Survivor + Mode, Says It's the Best Game Ever Made
Why should we care about what some random "celebrity" thinks about a game?
Re: 34 Under the Radar PS5 Games to Watch Out for in 2025
Shouldn't Spine also be on this list?
https://80.lv/articles/cyberpunk-gun-fu-game-spine-gets-release-window/
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 560
Finally finished Spider-Man 2. This game's PS5 Pro enhancements are spectacular on a 120 Hz VRR TV.
Re: Poll: What Are Your Most Anticipated PS5 Games of 2025?
Voted for:
1. Indiana Jones
2. Grand Theft Auto 6
3. Ghost of Yotei
4. Crimson Desert
5. Death Stranding 2
Re: Revenge of the Savage Planet Brings Colourful Sci-Fi Chaos to PS5, PS4 in May 2025
Store link, to wishlist: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10009791
Re: Poll: What Are the Most Impressive Games You've Played on PS5 Pro?
The Crew Motorfest looks great on the Pro, too, with a single mode running at 60 FPS, 1696p typical resolution upscaled to 2160p with a good implementation of PSSR. (Apparently, it's also free to play until December 12, 2024.)
Re: New PlayStation Handheld Looking Even More Likely as Digital Foundry Backs Up Reports
My guess: it will play digital PS4 & PS5 games locally (on device) and PS6 games via cloud or Remote Play, all at 1080p resolution up to 60 FPS, with the same form factor as PS Portal, but heavier (thicker behind the screen), sold for $400 + tax in the US (possibly more if it's affected significantly by tariffs).
Re: PS Store 30th Anniversary Sale Offers 2,000+ PS5, PS4 Game Deals
I hope the holiday sale that will start later in December has (better) deals on more popular games.
Re: PS5 Pro vs PS5: Full Tech Specs Comparison
What's "SSD2" (in the PS5 Pro Internal Storage cell)? Should it just be "SSD"?
Also, why not mention the weight of both Digital Edition and Standard Edition in the PS5 column?
Re: How to Transfer Data from PS5 to PS5 Pro
@xDD90x Indeed. I would have expected better from Push Square. If it's explicitly confirmed somewhere that restoring a PS5 backup on PS5 Pro wouldn't work, they should have at least linked to a source for that unexpected claim.
Re: Random: Boxing Champ Cosplays as Hitman's Agent 47 for Fury Presser
@riceNpea ... or at least 9S. 😂
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 550
Currently Hi-Fi Rush, while I wait for the Pro to play pro-enhanced games.
Re: New PSVR2 Games Release Dates in 2024
This list is outdated. E.g., Wanderer has been delayed (again): https://www.uploadvr.com/wanderer-the-fragments-of-fate-has-been-delayed-once-more/
Re: PS5 Players Choose Performance Mode 75% of the Time
Where is the option for 40 FPS balanced mode?
Re: Rumour: Sony Paying Close Attention to Handheld Market After PS Portal's Shock Success
Another issue with making a portable version of PS4 would be the save file of each game being separate from that of its PS5 version, which would prevent seamlessly switching between playing on this hypothetical portable and playing on the PS5 (like you can with the Portal) unless you're OK with playing the PS4 version of the game on PS5, which would mean missing out on PS5 improvements over PS4, like better performance and image quality, DualSense features, 3D audio, etc.
Re: Sci-Fi Shooter Sequel Revenge of the Savage Planet Announced, Coming 'Early-ish' 2025
This is great news! Really enjoyed the first game.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Black Myth: Wukong?
Planning to play it on PS5 Pro, after it hopefully gets a bespoke patch for improved performance and image quality. Have too much of a backlog currently anyway.
Re: PS5 Pro Still Likely to Launch This Year, Tokyo Game Show Reveal Possible
@Nakatomi_Uk PS6 is rumored to be likely released in 2028. That's 4 years away, not 2 years.
Re: Doubt Cast Over PS5 Pro Actually Releasing This Year
Slow news day? There is nothing that implies PS5 Pro would be delayed to 2025. Tom Henderson clarified here:
https://insider-gaming.com/playstation-5-pro-2024-release/
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Adds Full Discord Calls and More
@The_Wailing_Doom Indeed. My Pulse Explore no longer disconnects once an hour or so, after the update.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 530
@rusty82 Indeed. And those final levels and especially trial 16 really test the player's patience and perseverance.
Re: Tweaked Puzzles, Better Combat, and Updated Enemies in Silent Hill 2 PS5
Based on the trailer, it looks much more like a PS4 UE4 game than a PS5 UE5 game.
Re: Latest State of Play Is One of the Worst-Received PS5 Shows Yet
Maybe they are waiting for the rumored September showcase / PS5 Pro reveal event to show the major upcoming 1st-party games? #hopium