@LogicStrikesAgain They should 100% make a storefront, and add incentives for using it, not remove their games from steam. With day and date im sure theyll make much more money. People saying ignore PC just arent business people, are fanboys, and dont want to feel unjustified in their purchase of a ps5.
From a business perspective, especially in todays climate, it does not. Which is why they have been porting their games.
They are literally the only company who is losing revenue from their games by trying to keep them exclusive. They should just create their own PC store.
No. If they need to do something to make up the extra money because games like these wont sell a million copies first week, then let them. If it means they can experiment, let them.
No one has to buy early access, they arent forcing you to, so im not sure what the problem is. Its two days, its not like you have to wait months.
Its one of those opinions where, im not sure why anyones opinion matters on this. Just dont buy.
Thats not really what it is tbh. It may be something unfamiliar to you, something you dont understand, so you call people names and what not. But making something that is different and stands out, instead of repeatedly making the same thing, there is zero wrong with that. Gaming started out like this, as an art. Not something to just trigger dopamine in people and get them as addicted as possible for business reasons.
Well you weren’t paying attention to what i was commenting on. I did not say what you are assuming at all. Im talking about how they were comparing this to oblivion, which is the prequel to skyrim. So no, I wasnt implying what you were saying, because they literally compared it so a franchise that was “one of the most popular games in the world”, like you said. So, not sure what you’re even saying at this point. You are agreeing, in hindsight.
Im defending your game, yet you are now trying to double back and say what I was saying at the start? Weird.
@DennisReynolds Yeah, i mean like I said, its not on the level of bethesda games. People dont have the same thought process of “i want to buy this so I can mod this, I dont want to pay for gamepass forever”.
Those games are still played because they are great sure, but an easy check for you, look at the steam charts for doom 2016 compared to say, Skyrim which came out long before it, right now.
I can tell you. Doom 3,000 players, Skyrim 40,000 players. So im not sure what you are getting at. I never said 0 people play doom, theres just a different mentality when buying certain games.
But the actual facts and statistics suggest otherwise. Its replability is not at the level of a bethesda game. Not to be rude, but sort of ridiculous for you to even say that. Your speaking from feelings which I get, but im speaking from statistics.
Come on man. The game is on gamepass. You cant compare Oblivion remastered because people want to own that game, with the intention of replaying it using different builds, as well modding it. Its why starfield had such huge steam numbers even though it was on gamepass. Doom isnt like that.
There are nuances man. This idea of looking at steam numbers as the end all be all has to stop.
Games actually do sell "all that better than what steam DB is tracking". If you look at sales numbers that released and available for games that also have peak steam DB numbers available, the sales figures often quadruple what the peak steam players numbers are.
Not sure why people are so fascinated with these numbers, as they are only for people who are playing at the same time. I picked up the port and havent gotten a chance to play it. Not everyone is going to start playing the game at 11am on a thursday, people have jobs and lives.
@Vil Elden Ring does have ugly UI. Still cant compare my armors. It also cant run at 60fps to this day in some areas, and there is incredible amounts of pop in. I get we love Elden Ring, but it’s insanely annoying to use it as an example of perfection just because you like its gameplay, and ignore all its flaws.
Also, 1 dev complaining about Elden Ring UI is not representative of the thousands of people who work there.
I think this is more because a lot of people played the game already. Not everyone replays games, especially with so many games available and not enough time.
Personally, I hope that companies just stop listening, and everyone makes an account that you have to sign into, just so that those people can be so mad that they have to quit gaming entirely. I want them out of here.
This isnt for the “hardcore”. its to drive up inntrest in buying a shiny new console for NEW players. Any current owner who buys the new slim as well is just a bonus. Not sure where this idea came from that ps5 owners will spend another 600 to get the same system.
What Phil? I’ve literally sold my xbox 360 and havent looked back because the great games were on playstation, and i know many others did the same. It may not be the only thing you have to do, but it is an enormous first step. Xbox has like no understanding of the business man geez.
I’m glad things like this are coming out, so hopefully people can finally realize Microsoft is lying to you to get what they want. They arennt “ for the gamers” or whatever the hell it is they say.
This is a weird complaint. Dont go for the platinum then ? Platinums like this r there for people who really like the game and gives them a strong sense of completion. If you have the sense that you dont want to do it and its annoying, then dont do it ? Its not needed to complete the game. This sounds like a you problem. Complaining that you want things to be easier to get a trophy that has nothing to do with game completion is just such a whiney thing to do.
Im not sure how ppl we’re defending this deal in the first place. Microsoft defended its deal with bethesda and said it was “good for the industry” and immediately made starfield exclusive. They trying to benefit themselves, and in their eyes, thats “good for the industry”. They may keep COD multiplatform but they’ll probably make some warcraft sequel exclusive. I dont believe at all that microsoft is concerned about sonys success. They are lying and using clever wordplay.
I love god of war but i also love how ppl r saying the The Callisto Protocol is too similar too a game that came out in 2008 on the ps3, but when I play ragnorok, im honestly not sure what the changed from gow 2018 yet. And apparently that one is perfect. , considering sequels come out with the same assets, animations with slight tweaks to combat and get game of the year awards, i think it being similar to a game from 14 years ago will not bother me, or alot of ppl i think.
The fact that people would assume that a company that isnt even on the map yet would hold content for a season pass shows were we r at. AT LEAST give them the benefit of the doubt man. So much complaining, all the time. Like, i dont think “death animations” should be paid DLC, but assuming the company is hating on you immediately, like, just relax mann.
Well of course you probably agree with him and whine as well.
EA can do whatever they want man. If your so mad that they charge for 3 day early access why dont you talk to you internet friends and tell them to stop purchasing it. They are the real problem. They continue to purchase this. So why would EA listen to you I dont get it ? Continue to whine tho.
Just like you are free to whine EA and need for speed twitter account are free to push back.
Games grew to the exceptional state they are in without you whining on the internet, and it will continue to grow after companies start ignoring your ridiculous demands.
@Akurusu
“its hard to win an argument with a smart person, but its damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person”.
Im going to take bill murrays advice here and back off, because you obviously have no clue how game development works.
And, they do not owe u anything. no one owes you anything. A person doesnt owe you s*it just because you like them. thats not how the world works. Maybe when you grow up a little bit that will make sense to you.
And my advice, you should go buy the game that you clearly said is already 20 dollars. You said you can buy it right ? so… why dont you ? its there ! same story same characters, 20 bucks. everything you’re complaining about can be fixed in a second! and you wont be so angry ! buy that one ! youll be so much happier.
Don’t. Buy. it. That. simple.
the reason people will still buy the game is because no one gives a rats ass about your, ill informed, uneducated, opinion.
Well, this is a totally a different argument. And I agree with parts.
No one says you dont have the right to criticize, but they have the right to do whatever they feel is creatively stimulating for them. They are still people. Just because theyve built up a reputation doesnt mean they have no rights anymore.
Feedback is great, but it doesn’t mean they have to do whatever you tell them. Thats not how life works; thats just entitlement. They can do what they choose to do.
Also, building a game from the ground up in a different engine is not “a minimal amount of work”, it is not the same as sports games. But maybe this part is their fault for assuming that people would understand how game development works.
@Foreseer117
That mentality is far from why we have live service. You think you are woke and thinking when really u r not, you do literally the exact opposite. Business will still run as a business. They spend money, they need to make money. When you whine and complain about everything business’ actually do the opposite of what you want them to do. They stop investing because its too much of a risk to spend so much money to have people complain about something so small and lose that money.
its far from coddling. I just dont coddle people like you anymore who complain about spending money, complain about what games u get on ps plus, complain about every last thing like a spoiled brat that i end up having to defend companies.
No one said they are free from criticism.
What u do isnt really criticism. You havent even seen the full changes yet and obviously completely ignore game development and lack understanding of remaking a game from the ground up in a new engine, and what any dev has said about its detail.
Youve just played the story already so you want to pay less. Thats not crictcism. Its self centered.
Wait for a discount or dont buy it and leave.
Thank god your silly thought process is only a tiny minority.
@Akurusu
umm, dont buy it then ?? R u being forced to buy it or something ?
Its not like this is ps plus and u need it to play online or something. Just dont buy the game. Its simple.
Do you just walk into expensive restaurants and say “if im paying 60 dollars for shrimp i need 60 dollars worth of shrimp”. No… thats the price they value their cooks at. Its how a capitalist society works. No one owes you anything. dont buy it and go do something else.
They put in the work and decided this is the value of the game, thats allowed isnt it ? Its not your job to determine what the value is. You determine whether its valuable to you and only you. Not all of the people who put in their years of work. You also have no understanding of game development at all. Just because its the same story that youve played doesnt mean that building a game from ground up in the same engine doesnt take time and work.
I figure you dont care though and you’ll complain anout something else next week.
Man if people r really angry and upset and calling this a cash grab, you really need to go donate to a charity, hit the gym, eat healthy, do something else; but you need to find another way to validate yourself. You have no right to tell someone whether the work and hours that they put in over months or years is worthy or not. If you feel its not what you would spend 80 dollars on, Dont buy the game, and move on. They still work 8 hours a day on the product. its still work man. like, this is just unbelievable. People are really to much these days, no wonder all we get is live service games, its all we deserve.
Lmaoo. all the complaints about it being an old game . DONT BUY IT THEN. millions of ppl want and will buy it, its for us, not you. GO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR “CASH GRAB” OPINIONS 🤣🤣🤣 Theres so many free to play games im sure the online last of us will be free to play as well, youll be fine.
Ok buy an Xbox then, if you love what they are doing so much.
Thats how the market works, if you dont like something buy the competitors. Sony doesnt have to give things away for free because you want them to. This is how their business works, it’s probably how theyve built a profit. Microsoft has a lot more extra money than sony does. You wont see sony spending 70 billion for a company. Especially when people r complaining about spending money on a game, its makes it even harder for them to rack up the profits to do that.
What are you talking about ? How do i l”not really care about the devs vision” because i said people would stick with their vision ? No, i do not agree with you that making changes to something is a developers vision. Its a business, and things change as the business grows. You assuming that a change being made is always the devs vision is just silly and oblivious of what a business is.
If you saying easier difficulties are made for disabled people then fine. But instead if attacking me you should be attacking from software and every company that avoids doing that because they feel that that is the integrity of their game, not me. You should be attacking every game that lacks accessibility options. There r so many indie games that you need to be attacking right now. Every rougelike, an entire genre based on difficulty. If you really are going to say and use something like that to make me feel bad about wanting creators to just create what they want, then go out and fight for it somewhere that will actually make a difference instead of trying to put me down. You have a lot of work to do.
Comparing it to subtitles for hearing impaired is not the same dude lmao. That is a disability. That is no where near the same. But i wont go on because its not like i will be changing your mind. You are free to believe whatever you want though of course, and so am I. And there will be companies that will do what you believe, and there will be companies that believe that the core of the game is its difficulty and stick to that. I just wish people like you wouldnt cross over to game styles you dont like and condemn the company and demand change because its not made according to how you want it.
I mean, you’ve responded to none of my points, so it seems you dont really understand what i am saying.
fromsoftware will not change their choices. theyve said it openly. and theyve had many a success. you clearly just do not understand the idea of building a mentality and energy. many people complained about fromsoftware adding difficulty options. they ignored you. Now that people have actually taken the time to understand what they are going for, which is end gratification that obviously is not something that drives you, many ppl have taken the time to understand that idea. its art. that is literally the point of art. its not to satisfy everything you want or everything “you support”. its understanding and attempting to understand the idea of someone else. its not about you.
and if you do not like it, you just play another game. I dont get why that is such a big deal. why must you demand that companies do what you want. Its not that “sloclap figured out that they need more accessiblity options”, its that head honchos realized they would make more money satisfying the people that complained.
im glad there are a few companies that still want to express themselves and their teams now a days that still want to express themselves, and not just satisfy you for money.
@Cherip-the-Ripper Im not berating anyone for anything. Im stating my thoughts even though you dont agree. Its funny u say “berate” as if thats not what other people were doing when they didnt get what they want though? thats super funny to me. the game has literally become something different because u berated them and then u tell me im berating for stating an opinion after they were berated by you. I find that funny and oblivious. but thats how most of the gaming community is now a days unfortunately so not surprising.
Anyway, my point is, the difficulty options kills player creativity and discussion because when you cant win you just turn down the difficulty. An example for you, is the way Elden Ring does it. no matter how much you whine, they arent giving anyone difficulty options. And you can see the amazing discussions, community togetherness, and output that game has developed over the months. we all try and figure it iut together. which is amazing, stuff we havent seen in gaming for a very long time. and its cool when people create that. What you want to do is stop that from happening. And if u dont care about that, thats fine. But Id prefer you just play another game that makes you happy, instead of coming over into other territories that you literally dont even like because difficulty is not your thing, and changing everything about it. because there are communities out there that like trying to figure these things out together. And you ruin it for us. Ratchet and clank is readily available and very easy, why do you have to come over to the games we like and demand that everything is changed about it ? I really do not get it man.
Thats not how it works buddy. Its a business. which a lot of gamers, insanely, do not understand. I work in ux/ui. and its a simple thought process for the head of the business, if theres more money to be made, we go with that. And in this case, there r a lot of ppl like u complaining, so they change, even tho the initial creative was not to have that.
Do you think they r just dumb or something and though t that having difficulty levels initially wouldnt open up the appeal ? of course they thought that. But they had a vision, which they abandoned to make you happy. Which is sad because, im sure you wont be supporting them in the future.
@zupertramp ahahaha, not nearly the same and a very shallow way of looking at life, but good on you for being clever tho. Very funny and lots of people will probably agree with u.
Im just very proud of companies like fromsoftware, Remedy, and a few others that just stick to their visions. good on them man. its a creative industry, not a “ do everything the internet says industry”. They are not slaves. And should be free to do what they want to do.
Ive explained how it affects discussion about the game as a whole, even if it doesn’t affect me. Just the mentality that you can drop down a level if things get too hard and not find ways to overcome an obstacle kills the vibe entirely, yes. That is exactly why fromsoftware avoids this.
And yea, if it excludes people but you stick to your grounds of creativity, that is a sacrifice. When you do everything that people want just because some people might be excluded u kill all creativity, it leaves people doing the same thing over and over again because you dont want to “exclude people”. Im sure you are one of the people that complain that “ubisoft does the same thing every time”, you know why ? because they are trying not to exclude people.
Look at the success of Elden Ring after all these years of fromsoftware sticking to their guns. are they not “excluding people” according to you ? that game is much harder than this one.
This is silly. Im glad fromsoftware is not a company that gives into complaints like this. I don’t understand, if its too hard or you cant handle it just go play a different game. Why do these people have to get their fingers in everything and ruin stuff for people who like the difficulty? Its been so fun and engaging seeing all the community engagement, discoveries and discussions the difficulty in elden ring has created. Thats all taken away when you do things like this. Some things aren’t made for everyone. And thats very ok.
I definitely partially agree with this. i platinumed elden ring , but its not this perfect game everyone is talking about. the end of the game literally removed all fun, your almost forced to use particular builds instead of having fun and being creative like mid game.
It does get very repetitive like any other open world game. Theres technical problems, camera problems, the list can go on.
I think it’s overrated. its very very good and addicting, but its not perfect.
@eagletrippin
well you see, personally to me, the issue is right here. because you assume/believe every company is the exact same thing, run by the exact same evil dood, who is only trying to micro transaction everyone so he can buy a yacht.
i believe some ppl just want to make good quality products, and have a successful business at the same time, and there is nothing wrong with that. You live in a capitalist, free country.
***** like this is the reason you hav ppl doing micro transactions. you find all these ways to disrespect their business and then you complain when their expenses grow for the quality of games they make and they increase the price of them by ten dollars.
man, sometimes we just have to look at what we do, and stop thinking the corporation’s are so disgusting for trying to make sure their business is money..
Why do people try to meld everyone into doing what they want ? let the man be free and make what he wants. if not everyone can experience it, move on and try something else there r plenty of great experiences out there. stop trying to kill everyone’s freedom and have everyone create the same thing.
because no one cares ! 10 dollars is really not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. I bought the ps5 version just because i didnt want to see a ps4 and ps5 version on my home screen every time i turn on the console. its really not as big a deal for the average person as the internet has been making it out to be.
the more you complain about this, the more our future looks like fortnites battlefields and call of dutys; lower budget projects with repeat editions every year.
Complaining about paying money for a game that took these guys years and so much effort and talent and focus to make, is NOT going to make them say “hey, lets spend more money on these, but give them away for free”
all they are going to do is try to find ways to spend LESS money on projects and generate more money. this is business. We live in a capitalist society its how it will always be.
No one is going to spend more, to make less.its just logic.
Microsoft are a ginormous company that is now pulling money from its other avenues and investing it into its gaming projects. They are constantly in the red with stuff like game pass. They only do it because it for PR, and they are trying to run the industry, and know people will make articles like this, its doesnt matter if they kill the industry in the end, they aren’t thinking about that. If microsoft didnt have incredibly strong competition, game pass would not be 14.99 and as strong as it is.
The future with all this complaining and spoiledness just looks like a future of Games-as-a-service and Fortnite microtransations, or lower budget projects to me. Im sure no smaller companies want to risk anything on a ghost of tsushima or last of us 2 scale project with all the complaning, at this point. i wouldnt for godsake. Imagine making a large scale game as a small company like bend did with days gone, and having ppl complaing about having to pay for a dlc that they worked day and nite on when Sony doesnt even want to even give financial support for them to make a sequel for the game because it didnt sell enough. jesus. Frustrating life for these developers man.
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Re: Sony Estimated to Have Made $1.5 Billion from Steam, But the Novelty Is Wearing Off
@LogicStrikesAgain
They should 100% make a storefront, and add incentives for using it, not remove their games from steam. With day and date im sure theyll make much more money. People saying ignore PC just arent business people, are fanboys, and dont want to feel unjustified in their purchase of a ps5.
Re: 'Very Vague' Rumour Claims Sony May Scale Back PC Ports of PS5 Games
@JAMes-BroWWWn
From a fan boy perspective, this makes sense.
From a business perspective, especially in todays climate, it does not. Which is why they have been porting their games.
They are literally the only company who is losing revenue from their games by trying to keep them exclusive. They should just create their own PC store.
Re: Talking Point: Do Early Access Editions Go Too Far for Story Games Like Death Stranding 2?
No. If they need to do something to make up the extra money because games like these wont sell a million copies first week, then let them. If it means they can experiment, let them.
No one has to buy early access, they arent forcing you to, so im not sure what the problem is. Its two days, its not like you have to wait months.
Its one of those opinions where, im not sure why anyones opinion matters on this. Just dont buy.
Re: Death Stranding 2 Feedback Was 'Too Good', So Hideo Kojima Made Big Changes
@KundaliniRising333
Thats not really what it is tbh. It may be something unfamiliar to you, something you dont understand, so you call people names and what not. But making something that is different and stands out, instead of repeatedly making the same thing, there is zero wrong with that. Gaming started out like this, as an art. Not something to just trigger dopamine in people and get them as addicted as possible for business reasons.
Re: Inquiry Already Underway Over Lacklustre DOOM: The Dark Ages Opening
@DennisReynolds
Well you weren’t paying attention to what i was commenting on. I did not say what you are assuming at all. Im talking about how they were comparing this to oblivion, which is the prequel to skyrim. So no, I wasnt implying what you were saying, because they literally compared it so a franchise that was “one of the most popular games in the world”, like you said. So, not sure what you’re even saying at this point. You are agreeing, in hindsight.
Im defending your game, yet you are now trying to double back and say what I was saying at the start? Weird.
Re: Inquiry Already Underway Over Lacklustre DOOM: The Dark Ages Opening
@DennisReynolds Yeah, i mean like I said, its not on the level of bethesda games. People dont have the same thought process of “i want to buy this so I can mod this, I dont want to pay for gamepass forever”.
Those games are still played because they are great sure, but an easy check for you, look at the steam charts for doom 2016 compared to say, Skyrim which came out long before it, right now.
I can tell you. Doom 3,000 players, Skyrim 40,000 players. So im not sure what you are getting at. I never said 0 people play doom, theres just a different mentality when buying certain games.
Re: Inquiry Already Underway Over Lacklustre DOOM: The Dark Ages Opening
@DennisReynolds
For you. And many others im sure.
But the actual facts and statistics suggest otherwise. Its replability is not at the level of a bethesda game. Not to be rude, but sort of ridiculous for you to even say that. Your speaking from feelings which I get, but im speaking from statistics.
Re: Inquiry Already Underway Over Lacklustre DOOM: The Dark Ages Opening
Come on man. The game is on gamepass. You cant compare Oblivion remastered because people want to own that game, with the intention of replaying it using different builds, as well modding it. Its why starfield had such huge steam numbers even though it was on gamepass. Doom isnt like that.
There are nuances man. This idea of looking at steam numbers as the end all be all has to stop.
Re: Emergency Hotfixes Live for Botched Spider-Man 2 PC Port
Games actually do sell "all that better than what steam DB is tracking". If you look at sales numbers that released and available for games that also have peak steam DB numbers available, the sales figures often quadruple what the peak steam players numbers are.
Not sure why people are so fascinated with these numbers, as they are only for people who are playing at the same time. I picked up the port and havent gotten a chance to play it. Not everyone is going to start playing the game at 11am on a thursday, people have jobs and lives.
Re: Assassin's Creed Boss Says Series Is Inherently Diverse, Just Like History
@Vil Elden Ring does have ugly UI. Still cant compare my armors. It also cant run at 60fps to this day in some areas, and there is incredible amounts of pop in. I get we love Elden Ring, but it’s insanely annoying to use it as an example of perfection just because you like its gameplay, and ignore all its flaws.
Also, 1 dev complaining about Elden Ring UI is not representative of the thousands of people who work there.
Re: More People Are Playing the Original Horizon Zero Dawn Than Its Remaster on PC
I think this is more because a lot of people played the game already. Not everyone replays games, especially with so many games available and not enough time.
Re: God of War Ragnarok PC Review Bombed Over PSN Requirement
@MisterNintendo
Exactly.
Personally, I hope that companies just stop listening, and everyone makes an account that you have to sign into, just so that those people can be so mad that they have to quit gaming entirely. I want them out of here.
Re: God of War Ragnarok PC Review Bombed Over PSN Requirement
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Re: Preview: Ignore The Haters, Concord Is a Good PS5 Shooter We Can't Wait to Play More Of
@nessisonett You should never listen to ‘haters’.
People who actually played the game and have criticism, definitely.
But a hater that never even played the game will never give you a ‘balanced’ view.
Re: Is It Surprising that PlayStation Fans Don't Really Care About the PS5 Slim?
This isnt for the “hardcore”. its to drive up inntrest in buying a shiny new console for NEW players. Any current owner who buys the new slim as well is just a bonus.
Not sure where this idea came from that ps5 owners will spend another 600 to get the same system.
Re: Xbox Boss Admits Microsoft Can't 'Outconsole' PS5
What Phil? I’ve literally sold my xbox 360 and havent looked back because the great games were on playstation, and i know many others did the same.
It may not be the only thing you have to do, but it is an enormous first step.
Xbox has like no understanding of the business man geez.
Re: Next-Gen Shooter Neo Berlin 2087 Is Baffling PS5 Owners
they need an editor.
Re: Microsoft Thinks It Hasn't 'Pulled Any Games' from PS5, PS4
I’m glad things like this are coming out, so hopefully people can finally realize Microsoft is lying to you to get what they want.
They arennt “ for the gamers” or whatever the hell it is they say.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy's PS5 Platinum Is a Pain in the Ass
This is a weird complaint. Dont go for the platinum then ? Platinums like this r there for people who really like the game and gives them a strong sense of completion. If you have the sense that you dont want to do it and its annoying, then dont do it ? Its not needed to complete the game. This sounds like a you problem.
Complaining that you want things to be easier to get a trophy that has nothing to do with game completion is just such a whiney thing to do.
Re: US Government's FTC Will Attempt to Block Microsoft's Activision Buyout
Im not sure how ppl we’re defending this deal in the first place. Microsoft defended its deal with bethesda and said it was “good for the industry” and immediately made starfield exclusive. They trying to benefit themselves, and in their eyes, thats “good for the industry”.
They may keep COD multiplatform but they’ll probably make some warcraft sequel exclusive. I dont believe at all that microsoft is concerned about sonys success. They are lying and using clever wordplay.
Re: The Callisto Protocol (PS5) - Just Like Dead Space, for Better and Worse
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Re: The Callisto Protocol (PS5) - Just Like Dead Space, for Better and Worse
I love god of war but i also love how ppl r saying the The Callisto Protocol is too similar too a game that came out in 2008 on the ps3, but when I play ragnorok, im honestly not sure what the changed from gow 2018 yet. And apparently that one is perfect.
, considering sequels come out with the same assets, animations with slight tweaks to combat and get game of the year awards, i think it being similar to a game from 14 years ago will not bother me, or alot of ppl i think.
Re: The Callisto Protocol's DLC Death Animations Haven't Been Made Yet
The fact that people would assume that a company that isnt even on the map yet would hold content for a season pass shows were we r at. AT LEAST give them the benefit of the doubt man. So much complaining, all the time.
Like, i dont think “death animations” should be paid DLC, but assuming the company is hating on you immediately, like, just relax mann.
Re: Random: Need for Speed Twitter Got Out of the Wrong Side of Bed Again
Well of course you probably agree with him and whine as well.
EA can do whatever they want man. If your so mad that they charge for 3 day early access why dont you talk to you internet friends and tell them to stop purchasing it. They are the real problem. They continue to purchase this. So why would EA listen to you I dont get it ? Continue to whine tho.
Just like you are free to whine EA and need for speed twitter account are free to push back.
Games grew to the exceptional state they are in without you whining on the internet, and it will continue to grow after companies start ignoring your ridiculous demands.
Re: Random: Need for Speed Twitter Got Out of the Wrong Side of Bed Again
They need more admins like him.
There are too many whiney people on twitter nowadays, its about time these ppl stand up for themselves lol.
Re: Poll: Is The Last of Us: Part 1 Really a 'Cash Grab'?
@Akurusu
“its hard to win an argument with a smart person, but its damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person”.
Im going to take bill murrays advice here and back off, because you obviously have no clue how game development works.
And, they do not owe u anything. no one owes you anything. A person doesnt owe you s*it just because you like them. thats not how the world works. Maybe when you grow up a little bit that will make sense to you.
And my advice, you should go buy the game that you clearly said is already 20 dollars. You said you can buy it right ? so… why dont you ? its there ! same story same characters, 20 bucks. everything you’re complaining about can be fixed in a second! and you wont be so angry ! buy that one ! youll be so much happier.
Don’t. Buy. it. That. simple.
the reason people will still buy the game is because no one gives a rats ass about your, ill informed, uneducated, opinion.
Re: Poll: Is The Last of Us: Part 1 Really a 'Cash Grab'?
@LordOfTurnips
Well, this is a totally a different argument. And I agree with parts.
No one says you dont have the right to criticize, but they have the right to do whatever they feel is creatively stimulating for them. They are still people. Just because theyve built up a reputation doesnt mean they have no rights anymore.
Feedback is great, but it doesn’t mean they have to do whatever you tell them. Thats not how life works; thats just entitlement. They can do what they choose to do.
Also, building a game from the ground up in a different engine is not “a minimal amount of work”, it is not the same as sports games. But maybe this part is their fault for assuming that people would understand how game development works.
Re: Poll: Is The Last of Us: Part 1 Really a 'Cash Grab'?
@Foreseer117
That mentality is far from why we have live service. You think you are woke and thinking when really u r not, you do literally the exact opposite. Business will still run as a business. They spend money, they need to make money. When you whine and complain about everything business’ actually do the opposite of what you want them to do. They stop investing because its too much of a risk to spend so much money to have people complain about something so small and lose that money.
its far from coddling. I just dont coddle people like you anymore who complain about spending money, complain about what games u get on ps plus, complain about every last thing like a spoiled brat that i end up having to defend companies.
No one said they are free from criticism.
What u do isnt really criticism. You havent even seen the full changes yet and obviously completely ignore game development and lack understanding of remaking a game from the ground up in a new engine, and what any dev has said about its detail.
Youve just played the story already so you want to pay less. Thats not crictcism. Its self centered.
Wait for a discount or dont buy it and leave.
Thank god your silly thought process is only a tiny minority.
Re: Poll: Is The Last of Us: Part 1 Really a 'Cash Grab'?
@Akurusu
umm, dont buy it then ?? R u being forced to buy it or something ?
Its not like this is ps plus and u need it to play online or something. Just dont buy the game. Its simple.
Do you just walk into expensive restaurants and say “if im paying 60 dollars for shrimp i need 60 dollars worth of shrimp”. No… thats the price they value their cooks at. Its how a capitalist society works. No one owes you anything. dont buy it and go do something else.
Re: Poll: Is The Last of Us: Part 1 Really a 'Cash Grab'?
@Fenbops
They put in the work and decided this is the value of the game, thats allowed isnt it ?
Its not your job to determine what the value is. You determine whether its valuable to you and only you. Not all of the people who put in their years of work.
You also have no understanding of game development at all. Just because its the same story that youve played doesnt mean that building a game from ground up in the same engine doesnt take time and work.
I figure you dont care though and you’ll complain anout something else next week.
Re: Poll: Is The Last of Us: Part 1 Really a 'Cash Grab'?
Man if people r really angry and upset and calling this a cash grab, you really need to go donate to a charity, hit the gym, eat healthy, do something else; but you need to find another way to validate yourself.
You have no right to tell someone whether the work and hours that they put in over months or years is worthy or not.
If you feel its not what you would spend 80 dollars on, Dont buy the game, and move on.
They still work 8 hours a day on the product. its still work man. like, this is just unbelievable. People are really to much these days, no wonder all we get is live service games, its all we deserve.
Re: No Crunch on The Last of Us PS5, Says Environment Artist
Lmaoo. all the complaints about it being an old game . DONT BUY IT THEN. millions of ppl want and will buy it, its for us, not you. GO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR “CASH GRAB” OPINIONS 🤣🤣🤣
Theres so many free to play games im sure the online last of us will be free to play as well, youll be fine.
Re: Reaction: PS Plus’ Revamp Is Hours Away, But Sony Still Has a Game Pass Problem
Ok buy an Xbox then, if you love what they are doing so much.
Thats how the market works, if you dont like something buy the competitors. Sony doesnt have to give things away for free because you want them to.
This is how their business works, it’s probably how theyve built a profit. Microsoft has a lot more extra money than sony does. You wont see sony spending 70 billion for a company. Especially when people r complaining about spending money on a game, its makes it even harder for them to rack up the profits to do that.
Buy an Xbox. You wont though right ?
Re: Hands On: Sifu's New Difficulty Settings are a Superb Addition
@Richnj
What are you talking about ? How do i l”not really care about the devs vision” because i said people would stick with their vision ?
No, i do not agree with you that making changes to something is a developers vision. Its a business, and things change as the business grows. You assuming that a change being made is always the devs vision is just silly and oblivious of what a business is.
If you saying easier difficulties are made for disabled people then fine. But instead if attacking me you should be attacking from software and every company that avoids doing that because they feel that that is the integrity of their game, not me. You should be attacking every game that lacks accessibility options. There r so many indie games that you need to be attacking right now. Every rougelike, an entire genre based on difficulty. If you really are going to say and use something like that to make me feel bad about wanting creators to just create what they want, then go out and fight for it somewhere that will actually make a difference instead of trying to put me down.
You have a lot of work to do.
Re: Hands On: Sifu's New Difficulty Settings are a Superb Addition
@Richnj
Comparing it to subtitles for hearing impaired is not the same dude lmao. That is a disability. That is no where near the same.
But i wont go on because its not like i will be changing your mind.
You are free to believe whatever you want though of course, and so am I. And there will be companies that will do what you believe, and there will be companies that believe that the core of the game is its difficulty and stick to that. I just wish people like you wouldnt cross over to game styles you dont like and condemn the company and demand change because its not made according to how you want it.
Re: Hands On: Sifu's New Difficulty Settings are a Superb Addition
@Cherip-the-Ripper
I mean, you’ve responded to none of my points, so it seems you dont really understand what i am saying.
fromsoftware will not change their choices. theyve said it openly. and theyve had many a success. you clearly just do not understand the idea of building a mentality and energy. many people complained about fromsoftware adding difficulty options. they ignored you. Now that people have actually taken the time to understand what they are going for, which is end gratification that obviously is not something that drives you, many ppl have taken the time to understand that idea. its art. that is literally the point of art. its not to satisfy everything you want or everything “you support”. its understanding and attempting to understand the idea of someone else. its not about you.
and if you do not like it, you just play another game. I dont get why that is such a big deal. why must you demand that companies do what you want. Its not that “sloclap figured out that they need more accessiblity options”, its that head honchos realized they would make more money satisfying the people that complained.
im glad there are a few companies that still want to express themselves and their teams now a days that still want to express themselves, and not just satisfy you for money.
Re: Hands On: Sifu's New Difficulty Settings are a Superb Addition
@Cherip-the-Ripper Im not berating anyone for anything. Im stating my thoughts even though you dont agree. Its funny u say “berate” as if thats not what other people were doing when they didnt get what they want though? thats super funny to me. the game has literally become something different because u berated them and then u tell me im berating for stating an opinion after they were berated by you. I find that funny and oblivious. but thats how most of the gaming community is now a days unfortunately so not surprising.
Anyway, my point is, the difficulty options kills player creativity and discussion because when you cant win you just turn down the difficulty. An example for you, is the way Elden Ring does it. no matter how much you whine, they arent giving anyone difficulty options. And you can see the amazing discussions, community togetherness, and output that game has developed over the months. we all try and figure it iut together. which is amazing, stuff we havent seen in gaming for a very long time. and its cool when people create that. What you want to do is stop that from happening. And if u dont care about that, thats fine. But Id prefer you just play another game that makes you happy, instead of coming over into other territories that you literally dont even like because difficulty is not your thing, and changing everything about it. because there are communities out there that like trying to figure these things out together. And you ruin it for us. Ratchet and clank is readily available and very easy, why do you have to come over to the games we like and demand that everything is changed about it ? I really do not get it man.
Re: Hands On: Sifu's New Difficulty Settings are a Superb Addition
@theheadofabroom
Thats not how it works buddy. Its a business. which a lot of gamers, insanely, do not understand. I work in ux/ui. and its a simple thought process for the head of the business, if theres more money to be made, we go with that.
And in this case, there r a lot of ppl like u complaining, so they change, even tho the initial creative was not to have that.
Do you think they r just dumb or something and though t that having difficulty levels initially wouldnt open up the appeal ? of course they thought that. But they had a vision, which they abandoned to make you happy. Which is sad because, im sure you wont be supporting them in the future.
Re: Hands On: Sifu's New Difficulty Settings are a Superb Addition
@zupertramp ahahaha, not nearly the same and a very shallow way of looking at life, but good on you for being clever tho. Very funny and lots of people will probably agree with u.
Im just very proud of companies like fromsoftware, Remedy, and a few others that just stick to their visions. good on them man. its a creative industry, not a “ do everything the internet says industry”. They are not slaves. And should be free to do what they want to do.
Re: Hands On: Sifu's New Difficulty Settings are a Superb Addition
@themuckman
Ive explained how it affects discussion about the game as a whole, even if it doesn’t affect me. Just the mentality that you can drop down a level if things get too hard and not find ways to overcome an obstacle kills the vibe entirely, yes. That is exactly why fromsoftware avoids this.
And yea, if it excludes people but you stick to your grounds of creativity, that is a sacrifice. When you do everything that people want just because some people might be excluded u kill all creativity, it leaves people doing the same thing over and over again because you dont want to “exclude people”. Im sure you are one of the people that complain that “ubisoft does the same thing every time”, you know why ? because they are trying not to exclude people.
Look at the success of Elden Ring after all these years of fromsoftware sticking to their guns. are they not “excluding people” according to you ? that game is much harder than this one.
Re: Hands On: Sifu's New Difficulty Settings are a Superb Addition
This is silly. Im glad fromsoftware is not a company that gives into complaints like this.
I don’t understand, if its too hard or you cant handle it just go play a different game. Why do these people have to get their fingers in everything and ruin stuff for people who like the difficulty?
Its been so fun and engaging seeing all the community engagement, discoveries and discussions the difficulty in elden ring has created. Thats all taken away when you do things like this.
Some things aren’t made for everyone. And thats very ok.
Re: Poll: What's Your PS5, PS4 Game of the Year So Far?
@Ashkorsair
I definitely partially agree with this. i platinumed elden ring , but its not this perfect game everyone is talking about. the end of the game literally removed all fun, your almost forced to use particular builds instead of having fun and being creative like mid game.
It does get very repetitive like any other open world game. Theres technical problems, camera problems, the list can go on.
I think it’s overrated. its very very good and addicting, but its not perfect.
Re: Savvy PS5, PS4 Users Stocking Up on PS Now Subs to Convert into PS Plus Premium
@eagletrippin
well you see, personally to me, the issue is right here. because you assume/believe every company is the exact same thing, run by the exact same evil dood, who is only trying to micro transaction everyone so he can buy a yacht.
i believe some ppl just want to make good quality products, and have a successful business at the same time, and there is nothing wrong with that. You live in a capitalist, free country.
Re: Savvy PS5, PS4 Users Stocking Up on PS Now Subs to Convert into PS Plus Premium
***** like this is the reason you hav ppl doing micro transactions. you find all these ways to disrespect their business and then you complain when their expenses grow for the quality of games they make and they increase the price of them by ten dollars.
man, sometimes we just have to look at what we do, and stop thinking the corporation’s are so disgusting for trying to make sure their business is money..
Re: Elden Ring Easy Mode Isn't Happening on PS5, PS4
Why do people try to meld everyone into doing what they want ? let the man be free and make what he wants. if not everyone can experience it, move on and try something else there r plenty of great experiences out there. stop trying to kill everyone’s freedom and have everyone create the same thing.
Re: In the UK, 70% of Boxed Horizon Forbidden West Buyers Paid More Than They Needed To
because no one cares ! 10 dollars is really not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.
I bought the ps5 version just because i didnt want to see a ps4 and ps5 version on my home screen every time i turn on the console. its really not as big a deal for the average person as the internet has been making it out to be.
Re: Reaction: Messy Ghost of Tsushima Upgrade Makes PS5 for the Payers
@Voltan fully agree man
Re: Reaction: Messy Ghost of Tsushima Upgrade Makes PS5 for the Payers
the more you complain about this, the more our future looks like fortnites battlefields and call of dutys; lower budget projects with repeat editions every year.
Complaining about paying money for a game that took these guys years and so much effort and talent and focus to make, is NOT going to make them say “hey, lets spend more money on these, but give them away for free”
all they are going to do is try to find ways to spend LESS money on projects and generate more money. this is business. We live in a capitalist society its how it will always be.
No one is going to spend more, to make less.its just logic.
Microsoft are a ginormous company that is now pulling money from its other avenues and investing it into its gaming projects. They are constantly in the red with stuff like game pass. They only do it because it for PR, and they are trying to run the industry, and know people will make articles like this, its doesnt matter if they kill the industry in the end, they aren’t thinking about that. If microsoft didnt have incredibly strong competition, game pass would not be 14.99 and as strong as it is.
The future with all this complaining and spoiledness just looks like a future of Games-as-a-service and Fortnite microtransations, or lower budget projects to me. Im sure no smaller companies want to risk anything on a ghost of tsushima or last of us 2 scale project with all the complaning, at this point. i wouldnt for godsake. Imagine making a large scale game as a small company like bend did with days gone, and having ppl complaing about having to pay for a dlc that they worked day and nite on when Sony doesnt even want to even give financial support for them to make a sequel for the game because it didnt sell enough. jesus. Frustrating life for these developers man.