@ThomasHL
I actually only played through the first one and have seen bits and pieces of subsequent releases through other's playthroughs. I really enjoyed that first one...up until the ending, which felt like the devs were forcing me to pick one "correct" path and made me feel absolutely rotten for picking another. The thing with the first one was that, even if the political messaging was there, it wasn't at the forefront. You were more interested in the characters themselves and not whether they identified a certain way or whatever else.
I'm not against "the message" itself. I will play games that feature such things...but when you can tell right from the trailers that the game is trying to market itself a certain way, it just doesn't sit right with me.
That being said, since you didn't immediately attack me for my comment I'll concede that my original comment was more filled with personal bias about how I feel about the more recent entries and more than likely not the reason this particular game failed to sell.
Looking at general consensus, it seems to be more likely that fans simply didn't want this particular story to be told, didn't like the direction they took fan favorite characters...along with rather scummy business practices by the publisher.
@ThomasHL Ok, I'll go a bit more in depth. THIS game was made for an audience that doesn't play games. The original life is strange was amazing, heck I played it too...but as time went on the games became even more and more preachy, to the point that we got what we got this time...and guess what? It didn't sell.
There have been many attempts in the past but if Trump tries to take away people's ability to buy certain games then he really will be kicked out of office this time. He should watch his footing here, China has infiltrated the US through numerous successful games.🤣
The simplicity of having a dedicated device hooked up to your main TV that you can turn on and start playing something in minutes just can't be matched. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to start a game on my PC only for my controller to no longer be recognized, for sound to not play or for my settings to be changed...even if I didn't touch anything after my previous session. These things just don't happen on console and it's the reason why I will always prefer playing on that rather than a computer.
Playing Civ has actually made me go back and try to read up on all these leaders. When a civ produces a unique unit or building I also like to read into what makes them so special to that particular civilization. Do I retain any of this knowledge? Not really...but it's still fun to take a deeper look in the moment.
@GymratAmarillo Maybe people just aren't as interested for remasters as they are about brand NEW experiences. If Sony does plan on reviving old IP I really hope it's not to bring out even MORE remakes or remasters.
I'm gonna get hate for saying this but I don't trust naughty dog to make a new entry in Jak & Daxter. Those games were very decidedly 2000's era games and ND would feel inclined to change so much it wouldn't be recognizeable.
Looks like 2025 is already going the same way 2024 went. It's only going to continue to change once the "chud haters" begin to lose power. The landscape is making a change once more and people aren't going to like it.
@GymratAmarillo
This is the huge problem. It's either "take that chuds!" Or "take that wokies!" There is no compromise in the modern landscape anymore, in all subjects. If you aren't in 100% agreement with one side, you are their enemy. You can't sit in the middle and say "these people have a point...but so do these people." We live in a time of extremes. It feels like two opposing teams with delusional fans cheering mindlessly everytime it appears "their side" scored a "point" over the other. There can be no unity when both sides plug their ears and refuse to listen to each other. If they did then maybe they'd realize they're not so different after all.
@GreatAuk Pshaw, that's male power fantasy. Women don't even like strong muscular men. Besides, men don't even have feelings so their opinions are irrelevant!
Good on shift up. Too bad there are also people on the other side who mocked Eve's original design for being too sexual. Nice to see them take the higher ground.
There's nothing wrong with live service. That was never the problem. People said hero shooters were oversaturated and then Marvel Rivals came along and proved there was still demand. Make a game for gamers, not for X or Bluesky.
@LogicStrikesAgain Humor is subjective, as I'm sure you know. Where you were doubled over laughing slapping your knees I simply found myself rolling my eyes. To each their own!
@LogicStrikesAgain It'd be funny if this wasn't already what happens with Diehard being associated as a Christmas movie. This is just them trying to remind people that the "remastered" PS5 version exists and that the PC version is coming soon.
Basically: "please please please buy the last of us 2 again please. Oh and you PC folk please please please buy TLOU2 for the first time please please please."
I think I'd still rather pick up a steam deck over this. I feel like the technology is there to actually make a small portable PS5, it might be time to give it another go.
They're trying to figure out how to turn Sly Cooper into a story about parenthood and acceptance as Sly vows to change and improve as a person for his kid.
I haven't played this but seen various streamers play it. They constantly try to educate me about the joys of fashion but its always in one ear and out the other. Still fun to watch others enjoy though so I usually wind up tuning in.
This seems too similar to ZZZ for me to get stuck into another action Gacha. I might possibly give it a try but I don't see myself sticking with this one.
@CupidStunt TLOU2 was released just a few years after what many consider to be a gaming masterpiece so of course it was going to sell monumentality by name alone. Again, we will see if ND's name and pedigree will help push this new IP but I and many others were turned off by their last attempt. While we may have purchased TLOU2 on good faith, ND has lost this faith and will have to earn it back with the next game. There likely won't be as many blind pre-orders and people buying it JUST because its a Naughty Dog game. For the record I'm not even saying this game is destined to fail just yet, I'm merely saying that it's already tripping a few red flags right from its first trailer alone. Obviously its impossible to fully condemn a game before it is out and I'm not one of those people just saying "woke lol" with no context. I've just seen this enough times to notice a pattern and am drawing attention to it.
@LogicStrikesAgain Not just their loss but PlayStation's loss as well. They're a business afterall and if they keep pushing out Concord level disasters then you'll suddenly see them flip stances very quick. These "tasteless masses" decide what publishers do, the image they want to put out there and for the past few years "woke" was what was considered to be desired by, as you again put them, the "tasteless masses." Sony will always cater to the most common denominator, whatever they think will make them more money. They aren't preaching diversity because they believe in the cause, they're doing it because that's where they thought the world was heading, where all the money was. If there's no money in it though? Dump it in the trash and chase the next thing as far as they are concerned.
@LogicStrikesAgain Money talks I guess. Whenever this game releases we'll see if ND made the right decision and that the people complaining are just the vocal minority. Let's hope it's not another Concord. Then again people were just tired of hero shooters....oh wait, Marvel Rivals is breaking player records...well. Money talks in the end.
@LogicStrikesAgain In my opinion it's great when it is included and not made a focal point (BG3) instead of using the game as a tool to lecture gamers (Veilguard). There will always be the true minority that literally only wants straight bald white dudes in gaming but the majority of people just want a fun game that doesn't feel like its trying to force something on them. People just wanna look cute/cool/hot and slay dragons or whatever.
Probably in the minority who thought TLAU2's story wound up being crap so I'm not just going to give them a pass for their next game. I also think the character design is atrocious but that can be ignored as well as long as the gameplay and story are good. Luckily TLOU2 at least had decent gameplay so I'll hold out hope for that even if I have to skip cutscenes.
@EfYI
Indeed. A lot of these same people would preach inclusion and respect towards everyone in other articles but are ironically behaving very bigoted and racist towards an entire country here.
@Oram77 I didn't know this was a simulator game. Really looking forward to flying Porsche space ships next year! There's a place for advertisements, I'm not saying I hate any and all ads or branding. That was never my point. I see a lot of "they're trying to ground you" being thrown around...well you inadvertently pointed out that in Farming Sim those tractors exist in real life That equipment is real. You can go out and admire one of those tractors. Porsche doesn't have flying ships. There's no purpose to using Porsche instead of some made up brand and no point to having the camera hang on that one shot for so long. It doesn't "sell the illusion" any more or less.
You can choose to care about what I say or not, this is the internet afterall. I just hope you get the game you're expecting and not the one I'm anticipating.
@Oram77 We haven't seen anything yet. Just a cutscene. The focus just seemed to be on the product placement because that's what they showed us first. No gameplay yet...but we do know Porsche and Adidas are here!
@DonJorginho Is this an Akira or Blade runner game? No? Ok then. It's Cyberpunk, there's more than enough of these styles of games out now. If this setting still feels fresh to you then kudos but to me its just another thing they nailed on their checklist.
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Re: Poll: Do You Use PS Stars?
I don't really spend too much in the store but it's nice to occasionally get 5 bucks every now and then.
Re: Square Enix Wonders Why Life is Strange: Double Exposure Didn't Work Out
@ThomasHL
I actually only played through the first one and have seen bits and pieces of subsequent releases through other's playthroughs. I really enjoyed that first one...up until the ending, which felt like the devs were forcing me to pick one "correct" path and made me feel absolutely rotten for picking another. The thing with the first one was that, even if the political messaging was there, it wasn't at the forefront. You were more interested in the characters themselves and not whether they identified a certain way or whatever else.
I'm not against "the message" itself. I will play games that feature such things...but when you can tell right from the trailers that the game is trying to market itself a certain way, it just doesn't sit right with me.
That being said, since you didn't immediately attack me for my comment I'll concede that my original comment was more filled with personal bias about how I feel about the more recent entries and more than likely not the reason this particular game failed to sell.
Looking at general consensus, it seems to be more likely that fans simply didn't want this particular story to be told, didn't like the direction they took fan favorite characters...along with rather scummy business practices by the publisher.
Re: Square Enix Wonders Why Life is Strange: Double Exposure Didn't Work Out
@ThomasHL
Ok, I'll go a bit more in depth. THIS game was made for an audience that doesn't play games. The original life is strange was amazing, heck I played it too...but as time went on the games became even more and more preachy, to the point that we got what we got this time...and guess what? It didn't sell.
Re: Square Enix Wonders Why Life is Strange: Double Exposure Didn't Work Out
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Re: Gaming Colossus Tencent Added to US Blacklist, Accused of Ties to Chinese Military
There have been many attempts in the past but if Trump tries to take away people's ability to buy certain games then he really will be kicked out of office this time. He should watch his footing here, China has infiltrated the US through numerous successful games.🤣
Re: Call of Duty's Squid Game Skins Reignite Monetisation Debate
It's way too late to be complaining at this point.
Re: Talking Point: Is PlayStation Right in Saying PC Isn't a 'Major Risk' to Console Business?
The simplicity of having a dedicated device hooked up to your main TV that you can turn on and start playing something in minutes just can't be matched. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to start a game on my PC only for my controller to no longer be recognized, for sound to not play or for my settings to be changed...even if I didn't touch anything after my previous session. These things just don't happen on console and it's the reason why I will always prefer playing on that rather than a computer.
Re: Civ 7 Historian Hopes 'Gateway Drug' Will Renew Interest in Subject
Playing Civ has actually made me go back and try to read up on all these leaders. When a civ produces a unique unit or building I also like to read into what makes them so special to that particular civilization. Do I retain any of this knowledge? Not really...but it's still fun to take a deeper look in the moment.
Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 Review Codes Sent Out Super Early, Dev Confidence Seems Sky High
I feel like 2025 is going to be a huge year for excellent games.
Re: Wuthering Waves Has, Predictably, Jumped Straight to the Top of PS5's Most Downloaded in Japan
@bizzysgs
You say it as if its a fact. Ultimately opinions will vary but I prefer the more DMC style combat of ZZZ to WuWa.
Re: Rumour: PlayStation Is Working on Reviving Some of Its 'Deep Cut' Franchises
@GymratAmarillo
Maybe people just aren't as interested for remasters as they are about brand NEW experiences. If Sony does plan on reviving old IP I really hope it's not to bring out even MORE remakes or remasters.
Re: Game of the Year: Push Square Readers' 20 Most Anticipated PS5 Games of 2025
This community really is in the minority I guess. Besides GTA6 obviously being the most anticipated game of all time ever.
Re: Rumour: PlayStation Is Working on Reviving Some of Its 'Deep Cut' Franchises
I'm gonna get hate for saying this but I don't trust naughty dog to make a new entry in Jak & Daxter. Those games were very decidedly 2000's era games and ND would feel inclined to change so much it wouldn't be recognizeable.
Re: Jim Carrey 'Open' to Reprising Robotnik Role in Subsequent Sonic Movies
Jim Carrey a weirdo...but in a good way. We need more of this whimsical energy in the world.
Re: Wuthering Waves Has, Predictably, Jumped Straight to the Top of PS5's Most Downloaded in Japan
I'm giving it a fair shake but ZZZ's combat has spoiled me. I don't think I'll wind up sticking with this one long term.
Re: The Fantastic Four Are Coming to Marvel Rivals on PS5, And They Look Freakin' Fabulous
4 characters added in one update? That's kind of unheard and of.
Re: Helldivers 2's Creative Director's Latest Comments Have Landed Him in Hot Water
Looks like 2025 is already going the same way 2024 went. It's only going to continue to change once the "chud haters" begin to lose power. The landscape is making a change once more and people aren't going to like it.
Re: Wuthering Waves, Another Gargantuan Gacha, Is Available Now on PS5
I hate playing catch up on games like this. Not doing a simultaneous release like ZZZ did really killed my interest.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for January 2025 Announced
Welp all those people who paid for suicide squad on sale got baited.
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Says It Hopes Everyone Is 'Living in Love' After Naughty Dog Artist's Interpretation of Eve Is Unfairly Criticised
@GymratAmarillo
This is the huge problem. It's either "take that chuds!" Or "take that wokies!" There is no compromise in the modern landscape anymore, in all subjects. If you aren't in 100% agreement with one side, you are their enemy. You can't sit in the middle and say "these people have a point...but so do these people." We live in a time of extremes. It feels like two opposing teams with delusional fans cheering mindlessly everytime it appears "their side" scored a "point" over the other. There can be no unity when both sides plug their ears and refuse to listen to each other. If they did then maybe they'd realize they're not so different after all.
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Says It Hopes Everyone Is 'Living in Love' After Naughty Dog Artist's Interpretation of Eve Is Unfairly Criticised
@GreatAuk
Pshaw, that's male power fantasy. Women don't even like strong muscular men. Besides, men don't even have feelings so their opinions are irrelevant!
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Says It Hopes Everyone Is 'Living in Love' After Naughty Dog Artist's Interpretation of Eve Is Unfairly Criticised
Good on shift up. Too bad there are also people on the other side who mocked Eve's original design for being too sexual. Nice to see them take the higher ground.
Re: Squid Game Reaches Critical Mass with Playful Call of Duty Crossover
Sadly this will probably be better than playing the dedicated Squid Game...game. On Netflix...
Re: Unfazed by Concord, Sony Doubles Down on Exploring Service Games
There's nothing wrong with live service. That was never the problem. People said hero shooters were oversaturated and then Marvel Rivals came along and proved there was still demand. Make a game for gamers, not for X or Bluesky.
Re: Sony Says The Last of Us 2 Can Be Considered a Holiday Season Classic
@LogicStrikesAgain
Humor is subjective, as I'm sure you know. Where you were doubled over laughing slapping your knees I simply found myself rolling my eyes. To each their own!
Re: Sony Says The Last of Us 2 Can Be Considered a Holiday Season Classic
@LogicStrikesAgain
It'd be funny if this wasn't already what happens with Diehard being associated as a Christmas movie. This is just them trying to remind people that the "remastered" PS5 version exists and that the PC version is coming soon.
Re: Sony Says The Last of Us 2 Can Be Considered a Holiday Season Classic
Basically: "please please please buy the last of us 2 again please. Oh and you PC folk please please please buy TLOU2 for the first time please please please."
Re: Sony Says The Last of Us 2 Can Be Considered a Holiday Season Classic
I could watch die hard every year. I really can't see myself playing through TLOU2 every year. Way too long for that.
Re: PS Portal Owners Spend More Time Playing PS5, Says Sony
I think I'd still rather pick up a steam deck over this. I feel like the technology is there to actually make a small portable PS5, it might be time to give it another go.
Re: Sony Promises It Hasn't Abandoned the Famous Franchises from Its Past
They're trying to figure out how to turn Sly Cooper into a story about parenthood and acceptance as Sly vows to change and improve as a person for his kid.
Re: Infinity Nikki (PS5) - Impeccably Presented Fashion Sim Is an Open World Essential
I haven't played this but seen various streamers play it. They constantly try to educate me about the joys of fashion but its always in one ear and out the other. Still fun to watch others enjoy though so I usually wind up tuning in.
Re: Wuthering Waves Is Releasing on PS5 At the Perfect Moment
This seems too similar to ZZZ for me to get stuck into another action Gacha. I might possibly give it a try but I don't see myself sticking with this one.
Re: Stellar Blade's Eve Is Officially Infiltrating Saucy Mobile Gacha NIKKE: Goddess of Victory
@Dunkin
It sure is fun to make generalizations and assumptions of people based on the games they play.
Re: SEGA Is Pondering a PS Plus-Esque Subscription of Its Own
Just put the damn games on plus/gamepass like you've already been doing.
Re: Zenless Zone Zero Dev Fixes Fading Upskirts in Under 24 Hours
People saying this is training people to upskirt must also believe that call of duty trains mass shooters.
Re: Zenless Zone Zero Fans Irate They Can No Longer Peek At Their Waifu's Panties on PS5
Twitter strikes again. Or is it Bluesky now?
Also I keep noticing people bringing up Japan? This game was made in China. Talk about complete ignorance of the subject.
Re: Intergalactic PS5's Toxic Detractors Peddling Patently Fake 'Leaked' Story Details
@Jimmer-jammer
Yeah here you go. I got this tablet from some guy named 4 Chan.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@CupidStunt
So now you're assuming anyone who didn't enjoy the narrative is just too stupid to "get" it?
Re: Tina Tina's Wonderlands Sequel Reportedly Delayed Indefinitely
I managed to get through BL3 but couldn't do the same with the Tiny Tina game. Maybe if I played through it on mute.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@CupidStunt
TLOU2 was released just a few years after what many consider to be a gaming masterpiece so of course it was going to sell monumentality by name alone. Again, we will see if ND's name and pedigree will help push this new IP but I and many others were turned off by their last attempt. While we may have purchased TLOU2 on good faith, ND has lost this faith and will have to earn it back with the next game. There likely won't be as many blind pre-orders and people buying it JUST because its a Naughty Dog game. For the record I'm not even saying this game is destined to fail just yet, I'm merely saying that it's already tripping a few red flags right from its first trailer alone. Obviously its impossible to fully condemn a game before it is out and I'm not one of those people just saying "woke lol" with no context. I've just seen this enough times to notice a pattern and am drawing attention to it.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@LogicStrikesAgain
Not just their loss but PlayStation's loss as well. They're a business afterall and if they keep pushing out Concord level disasters then you'll suddenly see them flip stances very quick. These "tasteless masses" decide what publishers do, the image they want to put out there and for the past few years "woke" was what was considered to be desired by, as you again put them, the "tasteless masses." Sony will always cater to the most common denominator, whatever they think will make them more money. They aren't preaching diversity because they believe in the cause, they're doing it because that's where they thought the world was heading, where all the money was. If there's no money in it though? Dump it in the trash and chase the next thing as far as they are concerned.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@LogicStrikesAgain
Money talks I guess. Whenever this game releases we'll see if ND made the right decision and that the people complaining are just the vocal minority. Let's hope it's not another Concord. Then again people were just tired of hero shooters....oh wait, Marvel Rivals is breaking player records...well. Money talks in the end.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
@LogicStrikesAgain
In my opinion it's great when it is included and not made a focal point (BG3) instead of using the game as a tool to lecture gamers (Veilguard). There will always be the true minority that literally only wants straight bald white dudes in gaming but the majority of people just want a fun game that doesn't feel like its trying to force something on them. People just wanna look cute/cool/hot and slay dragons or whatever.
Re: Naughty Dog Turns Off Intergalactic PS5 Trailer's Comments As Discourse Turns Nasty
Probably in the minority who thought TLAU2's story wound up being crap so I'm not just going to give them a pass for their next game. I also think the character design is atrocious but that can be ignored as well as long as the gameplay and story are good. Luckily TLOU2 at least had decent gameplay so I'll hold out hope for that even if I have to skip cutscenes.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong Fans Swing at Swen Vincke Speech, Review Bomb Baldur's Gate 3
@EfYI
Indeed. A lot of these same people would preach inclusion and respect towards everyone in other articles but are ironically behaving very bigoted and racist towards an entire country here.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for December 2024?
I might play through the Sly games. A bit of comfort food for the holidays.
Re: Naughty Dog's New PS5 Game Is Finally Announced, Sci-Fi Action Title Intergalactic
China and South Korea will become the new leaders of the Game Industry in a few years time. Happy gaming everyone.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Is Naughty Dog's Wildest, Most Creative Story Yet
@Oram77
I didn't know this was a simulator game. Really looking forward to flying Porsche space ships next year! There's a place for advertisements, I'm not saying I hate any and all ads or branding. That was never my point. I see a lot of "they're trying to ground you" being thrown around...well you inadvertently pointed out that in Farming Sim those tractors exist in real life
That equipment is real. You can go out and admire one of those tractors. Porsche doesn't have flying ships. There's no purpose to using Porsche instead of some made up brand and no point to having the camera hang on that one shot for so long. It doesn't "sell the illusion" any more or less.
You can choose to care about what I say or not, this is the internet afterall. I just hope you get the game you're expecting and not the one I'm anticipating.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Is Naughty Dog's Wildest, Most Creative Story Yet
@Oram77
We haven't seen anything yet. Just a cutscene. The focus just seemed to be on the product placement because that's what they showed us first. No gameplay yet...but we do know Porsche and Adidas are here!
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced at The Game Awards 2024?
@DonJorginho
Is this an Akira or Blade runner game? No? Ok then. It's Cyberpunk, there's more than enough of these styles of games out now. If this setting still feels fresh to you then kudos but to me its just another thing they nailed on their checklist.