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FullbringIchigo

@RogerRoger yeah i think overall they made them better and i even like Hayden showing up at the end of The Last Jedi although some kind of morphing sequence would have been nice like seeing the older Anakin change into the younger one

i also don't really care who shot first
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although not EVERYTHING was good, the whole scene with Jabba in A New Hope was really badly done and the whole "Jedi Rocks" sequence can go fall in a Sarlacc Pit

also and i am SO going to get it for this BUT force shields up
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THE PREQUELS ARE THE BEST MOVIES IN THE FRANCHISE!

oh i had best run after saying that
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now being serious i know many fans will not share my opinions about Star Wars but that doesn't mean the fanbase should be so damn hostile about the franchise, we are fans and it's OK to have different opinions and to NOT like every single thing in the franchise so lets all get along OK
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RogerRoger

@FullbringIchigo ...and your point about the diversity of opinions is proven 100% accurate, because whilst I agree with you about the prequels being the better trilogy, I completely disagree with you about Jedi Rocks, I think it's funky and way better than the original.

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FullbringIchigo

If life is a dream i wish somebody would wake me up from mine because it's more like a nightmare

it may be multiplatform now but Final Fantasy & PlayStation will always go hand in hand

FullbringIchigo

@RogerRoger there is probably a Star Wars gif for everything

case in point, Vader on a Merry go Round
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Rudy_Manchego

Here is a question I have about the Prequels. In Episode III (spoilers), Obi Wan says he has the high ground and that implies that Anakin would be stupid to attack (which he does and thus choppy choppy, vader, noooooooo ensues).

BUT, in the Phantom Menace, Darth Maul has the high ground on Obi Wan but he leaps up, nabs his lightsaber and chops Mauly in half. It's one rule for the Sith and one rule for the Jedi.

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FullbringIchigo

@Rudy_Manchego i think the point is that the Sith become over confident in their abilities and leave themselves open when they believe they have the advantage in a fight, such as when Maul was showing off while Obi-Wan was hanging in the pit or when Anakin was "drunk" on his power so believed he was unbeatable and was then beaten because they let their guard down

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RogerRoger

@Rudy_Manchego Ah, but who was the one constant between those two examples?

Don't try and kid a kidder. Obi-Wan knew how he beat Maul, so he also knew how to defend against the exact same attack when Anakin tried it on him.

And THAT'S character development in the prequels, right there!

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Rudy_Manchego

@FullbringIchigo @RogerRoger You could both be right but still not convinced. That said, I still think Jar Jar is the real Sith Lord.

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FullbringIchigo

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also did you know in canon Binks became an outcast on Naboo due to his role in the rise of the Empire and By the time of the Battle of Jakku, Binks was a street performer in the capital city of Theed, where he was scorned by adults but beloved by the children who came to watch his antics.

kind of a sad end really, performing on the streets, outcast from your home and hated by most people

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FullbringIchigo

@Rudy_Manchego he wasn't that bad of a character and to be honest the fans took it too far, Ahmed Best the person who played him got so depressed over that hatred he was getting he even considered suicide

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44708983

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Ralizah

FullbringIchigo wrote:

kind of a sad end really, performing on the streets, outcast from your home and hated by most people

I mean, what's new?

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jacobia

@FullbringIchigo Jeez, I didn’t realise it got that bad! That kind of vitriol is mind numbingly disgusting and abhorrent. I’m not claiming to be a saint, but how can somebody be so vile? I mean, sure, hate the character, but not the actor, for goodness sake....it’s just a made up figment of someone’s imagination. Although, as nasty as that all is, I guess it could be argued that the actor playing the character has taken the unpleasant attitude of others to heart because they too haven’t separated their role from themselves. Every coin has 2 sides, I suppose 🤷🏻‍♂️

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RogerRoger

I love Jar-Jar. I mean, this is coming from me, so I guess it's not super-surprising, but I've always thought he was a harmless goofball with a good (if simple) heart, and I can't hate anybody for that.

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Kidfried

@RogerRoger I know a lot of people with good hearts, which I just can't stand. I think hate is a pretty terrible word to describe anyone as, but I can be become so annoyed with them that I try to avoid being around them.

Personally I think Episode 1 has quite some problems in its writing, not only regarding Jar Jar. But I think people were looking for a scapegoat as to why they were disappointed with the movie.

Kidfried

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...Personally I think Episode 1 has quite some problems in its writing, not only regarding Jar Jar...

Midichlorians.

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KALofKRYPTON

@Kidfried @Th3solution That's because George Lucas is always lauded as a 'great storyteller' - but actually can't write for toffee.

@RogerRoger I find Lucas' need to racially stereotype a lot of TPM alien races a distinct annoyance - Jar Jar and the Gungans being the worst of the lot. I don't think he's racist - but there's clearly a lack of imagination there.

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Kidfried

@KALofKRYPTON The bad stereotypes clearly show for me how much Lucas struggled with writing engaging characters in Phantom Menace. Not only can they be considered offensive, but having stereotypes also hinders character development in general.

But as someone who watched this film in his early teens, I can also see why others really enjoy it too. It's not for me anymore, though!

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Rudy_Manchego

Firstly, I don't condone any of the over the top fan backlash mentality at all. I feel sorry for the Jar Jar actor having had his life ruined, same as Jake Lloyd as Anakin.

However, I do get why Jar Jar is singled out so much in a way. He is very emblematic of some of the issues with that film - racial stereotypes, the jarring juxtaposition between kid/toy friendly aspects and the more adult themes of bureacracy and destiny and the confusion over the lore (midichlorians etc.). I also think the technology and green screen reliance in those prequels really hurt the actors who weren't used to it.

I don't really hate on TPM that much. I was lucky enough to see an early copy of TPM weeks before it came out in the UK and it made me a local celebrity and I loved it at the time. I think it is superior to AOTC which is my least favourite of all the Star Wars movies (with the possible exception of TLJ).

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