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kyleforrester87

@Feena Yup. Kinda made sense in an old mansion though. No idea why the police station in the sequel was full of obtuse puzzles lol

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johncalmc

The Yiazmat fight in Final Fantasy XII is absolutely awful. Like 10/10 awful. It should be stricken from the record. Anyone involved in creating it should be going to prison.

I don't understand what it is with Square Enix and superbosses. I thought the massive turtle in Final Fantasy XV was real bad, but Yiazmat was like "hold my beer." The problem is that the fights are fantastically long drawn out and very difficult to actually lose, meaning there's little to no enjoyment one can glean from them. I don't understand why you'd create a battle system which essentially means that the game plays itself, and then create a boss with a billion HP that takes forever to kill, and then give it an attack that just randomly kills one of your party meaning that you can't even just set up your gambits and then go to the pub while your party kills it. You have to sit there reviving your leader should he/she be bumped off every twenty seconds or so.

Awful.

Anyway, it's dead now, so I'm doing the trials and then I'm pretty much headed to platinum city for FFXII. All in all, having never played it since the PS2 days, and having always declared it the worst Final Fantasy game I'd ever played, I've warmed to it considerably playing it a second time. The story is way more entertaining than I remember, and the characters are a lot more likeable than I recall. The battle system is still a bit pedestrian, but I have definitely enjoyed my time with the game, aside from fighting Yiazmat.

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ApostateMage

I forgot how terrifying Atomos is in FFIX. Great cutscene.

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Feena

@johncalmc in the original he was actually pretty though (on top of the annoying HP) cause the techs to lower strength and defense weren't there and nice equipment was way harder to find... on top of that you couldn't speed up the game. Not a nice memory. I quite like the game and its combat system though, it still feels modern now...

@ApostateMage it's awesome

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johncalmc

@Feena The new version is a bit of a double-edged sword, though. In the old one I seem to recall that everyone could learn everything but they just learned it in a different order (correct me if I'm wrong though, it's been years since I played it). In this once, because you pick jobs, you can lock yourself out of certain skills if you're not careful. I realised this when I Googled, "Is there any way kill Yiazmat quicker" and discovered that the technicks Wither and Expose would be useful, only to then seconds later discover that not a single one of my characters could use either skill.

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Feena

@johncalmc yeah there was just one huge board. With the new system you get more statistic buffs and can be more effective in your role but yeah you need to plan or you could end up gimped in some ways. Though (of course lol) there are communities devoted to finish the game using just white mages, just black mages etc.

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johncalmc

@Feena I thought I'd done a pretty good job with spreading out the jobs but apparently not. I've just been looking at what trials are still to come and my heart sank. I'm at 86 (the one with the pirates). Apparently I have to fight Zodiark again which is irritating.

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Feena

@johncalmc argh Zodiark >_< Ricky and the pirates were my first road block in the trial mode too. Use the niho paloa (forgive me if that is not the correct spelling) liberally, it inverts the effect of items so if you use a remedy with a character that has the remedy 3 lore you will inflict every possible alteration to an enemy. Also you can use phoenix down to cast death. Good news: The boring 💤 yazmat has only 5 millions hp in trial mode.

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johncalmc

@Feena Reverse? I read somewhere that using Reverse on the pirates might help. Also Warp to kill off the majority, then Dispelga to remove reflect from the rest, then Berserk on the woman so she stops casting Reflect. I only tried it a few times last night and it was no laughing matter. The trials have been really easy up until this point, but looking at what's to come it looks like things aren't going to be quite as easy as I'd hoped.

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Feena

@johncalmc niho paloa is an accessory you can unlock in the bazaar and probably get in some other ways in the Zodiac Age version. it will reverse the effect of items for the equipped character - Reverse is very useful too, it's still the only way I manage to defeat omega mark 12!

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johncalmc

@Feena I'm not sure I even want to know. I just want to be through it so I can mop up the last couple of trophies and move on. I have a feeling the cartographer trophy is going to be really, really, really annoying.

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Feena

@johncalmc get the niho paloa accessory and you can cheese the game out in case either gets too annoying the cartographer one is often misunderstood..
You just need to have been I'm every single area of every map

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johncalmc

@Feena Yeeeeeeeeah, I don't have that accessory. I'm onto Trial 100. It's murdering me. I did a bunch of searches and literally every single one said I needed that accessory. But then, they told me I needed a bunch of other stuff to do some of the previous ones and I got by. Honestly, I don't even have a ribbon. I'm totally unprepared for this.

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Feena

@johncalmc wow kudos on getting there without ribbon ...you really don't need the niho but it makes things way easier.
These wars if you are very quick /attentive: Summon Zodiark and use his ultimate skill. As soon as th animation is over, use an elixir and re-summon it. Doing this 5-6 times will leave you with just 2-3 judges. The last two standing are going to be Zargabaath and Gabranth. Set up a gambit to keep Zargabaath asleep CONSTANTLY (the basic sleep spell works) otherwise he will use an infinite amount of elixirs on Gabby-chan negating any progress...once D̶a̶v̶i̶d̶ ̶B̶e̶c̶k̶a̶m̶ Gabby is out just finish him.

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johncalmc

@Feena I can't even tell you how much stuff I don't have that apparently I should. I have none of the best weapons or anything. I really should have prepared. Instead I went to the shop and bought 99 Hi-Ether and was like, "Yeah, that'll probably do."

I was actually using Zodiark last night. The fight right before landed me like seven or eight Elixer, so I tried summoning Zodiark and then using Elixer immediately so I could summon him again. I managed to get down to three Judges but even doing that one of them clobbered Penelo and killer her before I could summon Zodiark again. I think I'll have another go using that method because I can't really see any other way to do it.

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Feena

Sooo...I Just replayed the updated version of FFXV chapter 12: the new story scenes have an emotional oomph that nearly got my eyes running + some lore explanation dump about the war of the Astrals that was satisfying and sorely needed imho. Keep them coming!
Tabata and team really deserve more recognition for their post launch support to the game.

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FullbringIchigo

oh if anyone was having issues with the Assassin's Festival apparently they have been fixed

My top 3 Star Wars Movies are, The Empire Strikes Back, Revenge of the Sith & The Force Awakens, YEAH i said a Prequel movie WHAT OF IT?

johncalmc

@Feena I did it. I finally did it. It took days. But I finally beat Trial 100. It probably would have been quicker to just quit, level up, get better weapons and items, and start the whole thing again. But then where would the fun in that be?

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Feena

@johncalmc Congratulations! That's not a small feat! If you didn't hunt down the best gear it must have been diabolical ...

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themcnoisy

I reckon the ff7 remake will be released as ff17.

@johncalmc well in bro!

@feena Im gonna search youtube for the alterations and new content asap. Good to know its improved.

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