Update: Just a day after posting this article, Guerrilla Games has followed up with a full behind-the-scenes getting into the nitty-gritty of newcomer Kylie Liya Page's role in Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores. The video outlines her first day on set, as well as her alter-ego Seyka's role in the story. Don't worry about spoilers, though, this is pretty tame stuff!
Original Article: Aloy will be meeting a new ally named Seyka when she arrives in the Burning Shores, and we’re slowly beginning to learn a little more about the character who’s set to debut in the upcoming Horizon Forbidden West expansion. In a PS Blog post, lead writer Annie Kitain described the new Quen companion as “confident, compassionate, and fierce” – and actress Kylie Liya Page has been recruited to play the character.
“Excited to be making my video game performance acting debut alongside Aloy as Seyka in Horizon Forbidden West: Burning Shores,” she wrote on Twitter. “Thank you PlayStation for the opportunity to bring this character to life!”
Page has a background in both television and theatre, having starred in productions like Les Misérables and Chicago. However, this, as she pointed out, is her video game motion capture debut. And we get a good glimpse of her in action in the expansion’s launch trailer, where it looks like she’s poised to play a pivotal role in the plot. All will be revealed next week!
Well I guess we'll see how good a performance she pulls off when the game releases. I'm not sure what else there is to say until then?
@theheadofabroom here’s something to add….
IT’S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME,
PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME,
PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME,
I like that we're at a graphical point where the game characters can look similar if not spot on to their voice actors/actresses.
@Uncharted2007 It's amazing, isn't it?
>“confident, compassionate, and fierce”
At this point in pop culture writing, it'd be weird to read that a female character isn't these things (and only these things). It's become the off-the-shelf character and they don't tend to add much more on. That could also describe Aloy, so it'd be nice if the writer herself could describe her own character in a way that differentiates her from the already existing confident, compassionate and fierce character we're familiar with.
It's kind of like bios that say "I like movies and music and hanging out with friends".
She looks really awesome can't wait to see more of her she looks cool enough to become a new major character which would be nice because I need a replacement for Talanah since it's pretty evident Guerilla plans on doing nothing with her
A common theme with characters from this dev. They always make the female characters look more masculine than their
real life inspirations . Presumably to make them look “tough”, which is somewhat insulting to them I think. The chin and cheeks are usually the things they alter.
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She looks really cute.
Guerrilla has a problem with feminine looking women. I don't get it, it makes no sense.
But it's clear as day that the models they use are deliberately altered for their game presentation.
Inb4 complaints about how she's ruined the franchise. That's a really good render, but thankfully it's still just about on the safe side of the uncanny valley.
@GreatAuk You seem to be failing to understand that people that grew up in a post apocalyptic tribal society would be physically incredibly different from people who grew up in the 21st century.
I hope she is well received and that Twitter users leave her alone.
First, they're identical genetically to 21st century humans. Second, for most of human civilization it basically was the equivalent of the societies you see in the games.
Feminine women didn't only first appear post WW2. This is a silly, deliberate change that they are making.
In the games characters have unique hairstyles, makeup, a wide variety of clothing styles, etc. Your point makes no sense.
@GreatAuk because the environment that a human being grows up defines their physical characteristics by the actions that they are taking every day. People who hunt for food are stronger, fitter and tougher than people who, say, sit around playing computer games and using instagram all day. Working hard outside will affect your complexion, skin etc. in addition to just making you have larger muscles.
Secondly survival of the fittest ensures that in such a world the people who would survive and most likely to mate would be stronger people, meaning the gene pool would continue on that path. This means that even if you cloned a bunch of people from the 21st century the average “toughness” of a person would be higher within several generations.
Also what you define as feminine were almost certainly not the physical traits that were desired in women in tribal societies. Most societies like that would look for,stronger, taller people and ones who had traits desirable for childbirth(large hips) and child rearing( yes, even tribe people like big breasts).
Small slender girls with delicate feature wouldn’t be likely to be desirable in such a tribe.
I doubt it would have much impact on the chin and jawline, lol.
This thread took a weird detour... 🙄
@get2sammyb Yet, not surprising. Can only pity those that have a problem with this character's look and/or have twisted how positively they're described.
Please let the unwashed masses leave this lady alone.
It’s crazy how good Sony games look and still be able to offer 60fps modes.
Maybe its time Aloy to get a girlfriend? Or boyfriend idc, think she's been alone for too long
@BeerIsAwesome what the hell does this even mean lol
@GreatAuk @thefourfoldroot1 ya'll are weird for real. she looks exactly like in game...ever heard of different perspective?
@middyone First sentence is a reference to the last Asian actress voicing a character in a videogame. The story was on this site only a few days ago.
Second part is that the picture of her character looks obscenely good, but it's not quite got past the part of the uncanny valley that goes from recognizable game character to weird realistic human being just yet.
Sorry, I worded it a bit weird.
@GreatAuk Its a exact copy of her face? You rather have the magazine model cover treatment all fake?
I can respect that they use the character as they are she looks. I got a big laugh with the twitter Aloy I mean a messed up barbie.
@GreatAuk lol, the first thing i thought was she looks better in real life & they altered her appearance in game to look worse
@ChrisDeku so different that the women can still arch their eyebrows, have clear faces, pearly whites & perfectly styled hair from their stylist in the post-apocalyptic huh ? 😂
@dimi I mean this new girl is really cute and cool looking and Forbidden West crashed and sunk my Aloy/Talanah ship soooooo yeah I agree it's time 😅
What a weird turn this thread has taken. Some of you need to get some perspective. Of course she doesn't look the same as her dolled up headshot in game.
@nomither6 @themightyant @Flaming_Kaiser
My friends, a couple of points:
Femininity is not the awful fake Barbie version of Aloy. It's actually kind of insulting to women to imply that the only way they can be feminine is to look like a clown. So we can scratch that right from the get go.
Second, this is only a post apocalyptic society on a technical level. This isn't The Last Of Us post-apocalyptic. Humans have existed for a thousand years in Horizon. They have built cities as large as Meridien for crying out loud. They have cultures, traditions, customs, unique clothing, agriculture, etc. These aren't cavemen from 100,000 years ago.
I'd like to reiterate that the facial structure of the game character is not the same as the model. It's obvious that her jawline was made more square (a biologically masculine feature.) They have taken away her cheekbones and dramatically altered her chin/jaw line for some reason. If you mocap that actress model there is no way a 1:1 mapping turns into the face of the game character.
This isn't about gaudy makeup and pearly white teeth. Although I can promise you the women of Meridien could have taken that route if they chose to. Again, these people aren't grunting cave dwellers.
Geurrilla is changing the facial structure of their actresses to make them less feminine. Only Geurrilla knows why.
You do realise that her jawline in the headshot you are using as a basis for your argument isn't her natural jawline, right? When you are poising for a headshot photo like this you separate your teeth a little and it alters the shape of the jawline, makes it pointier and what you would call more feminine. Go have a go in the mirror, we can all do it, us men too, it's not magic.
Whereas in a real life our jawlines are typically squarer by comparison when we are just acting normally and not posing. I'm sure she could make a double chin if she tried too, but the internet would explode.
It's very easy to alter your jawline's appearance based on muscles used and angles shot from.
What you seem to be chasing is some sort of unrealistic female ideal of what people look like in a perfect magazine photoshoot as opposed to reality.
My friend, to say that a feminine woman is an unrealistic ideal because the only way they can look that way is through Photoshop is insulting.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt and so I quickly googled the actress and in every single stance she has that same pointy chin and inward sloping jawlines. That's just her face man. Look her up yourself.
How about Aloy's model? Have you seen her in video? She looks much more feminine than Aloy. And she wasn't dolled up in the video nor was it a professional headshot for a magazine.
I think you're trying to paint me as one of those " I want fake boobs and Barbie or she's not good enough to be a woman game character" people and I think that's unfortunate.
@GreatAuk Where did I mention Photoshop, that's right I didn't.
You are looking at the carefully curated social media of an actress, all the very best, most feminine versions of herself.
Yet even within that her jawline can look entirely different.
See here FAR more Square than even in the Horizon shot above and here Pointy.
See it's not rocket science but some of you have decided that because they don't look exactly like their model shots and more like they do in movement/real life that Guerrilla made her masculine. Hence the facepalm. It's so weird to be hung up on his.
God bless her. Now, let's save the world together still again!!
Feminine nature and femininity used to be celebrated in the distant past. Everything is so binary and bland these days.
@themightyant So if you are correct then Guerrilla is choosing less feminine models deliberately, because they only look feminine in glamorous headshots?
Unless you think you think all natural movement by a woman results in a more masculine look? I know you don't believe that.
In the new Tomb Raider trilogy they mocapped Camilla Luddington beautifully. How did that developer manage to capture the feminine nature of that actress without making her look like a plastic Barbie doll?
I was just making an observation because this is now the second character in the same game series where her appearance doesn't look like what I expected when looking at the actress.
I am not hung up on it, in fact I said the game character looks good in a previous article for Burning Shores. Only now with this article do I see that they didn't quite line up the game character with the actress.
I think it's weird that you're defending Guerrilla so hard and that you can't recognize even if it's just a little bit that Aloy and Seyka look less feminine than their live models.
@Uncharted2007 yeah can't w8 for Sam Fisher to look like Michael Ironside in the splinter cell remake I'd buy that as dlc tbh 🤣🤣🤣
Hopefully this isn't just another character that Simps for aloy immediately its 1 of the very few things I don't care for in horizon there's no character conflict, would be cool to have to earn the friendship or dislike of these npcs through our actions....I mean the dialogue system is a bit pointless which is a shame as the series is really good 👍 😉
@themightyant @GreatAuk amusing debate aside, did not guerilla openly state that they altered Aloys character model with features from a male model? Idk about this character but that seems to be something they think makes sense. Which is weird it's not like they altered Lance to not look like his irl self, blue cables aside. Not sure if it's about political correct tough females or if it's about politically incorrect appealing to players that only want to play male characters but it's a thing they seem to do.
@Sh3p3000 I just want Fisher to SOUND like Ironside again
@Matroska Probably scared to make a woman, "imperfect" if that's the case.
I hope that in Horizon 3 we can play as a male character. It's ridiculous that in 2023 we don't have the choice.
Sony: Here's the actress playing a new female character in our Horizon DLC!
people immediately start measuring the character's jawline and talking about how she's not sufficiently feminine
You really have to wonder how much interaction the people going on about the looks of the characters have actually had with girls. Yeah big shocker most women don't look like porn stars and Hollywood actresses.
Jesus christ penguin guy go outside and touch some grass srly.
@NEStalgia yeah blacklist was voiced by the guy who did alpha protocol so I just picture agent Thornton 🤣🤣🤣
Trolls out in full force I see.
I'm playing through Forbidden West at the minute and Aloy is such a good character. Confident but empathetic.
@Ralizah It really gets bad doesn't it. Man i thought she looked fine spot on. If it looked that horrible the actors would probably say something about it themselves.
@GreatAuk You go on with your discussion I'll leave it at this. The big issue with Aloy which turned out that it quite a big difference if you watch from different angles/perspectives.
I can only imagine what the actors are thinking about when hearing this nonsense. Probably what a horrible group are there amongst the gamers.
@Ralizah It's pathetic isn't it these people need to get out more and when I of all people are saying you need to get out more you REEEEEALLY need to get out more 😂😅
You can call me pathetic if it makes you feel better. I just made an observation that twice now the same developer in the same game series has characters that don't quite match up to their real life models. Others see it too since they were trying to justify why feminine women wouldn't exist in this post-apocalyptic world.
I don't appreciate you de facto calling me a horrible gamer. Why? Because I don't think the game character quite matches up to the actress? Yes, what a horrible person I am.
Who's trolling? No one. Either you don't know the definition of the word or you're one of those people who calls anyone a troll simply for stating something that doesn't fit your opinions or beliefs. I am arguing in good faith. You may think my argument is stupid and that's fine, but it's not trolling.
It's an Auk, not a penguin. The Auk was a creature of the Northern Hemisphere, penguins are only in the Southern Hemisphere. The Auk is in the genus Pinguinus and is not related to the Penguin. When European explorers (who were already very familiar with the Auk) traveled to the Southern Hemisphere, they saw similar looking creatures and called them "Penguins" due to their resemblance to Auks.
Does Lara Croft look like a porn star in the Tomb Raider series? What a ridiculous argument. And it's not appropriate for you to assume my personal life due to some observational posts I have made. That's quite the stretch. Who are you trying to get a high five from here?
My wife and children are quite happy and I make enough income for my wife to stay at home and raise them full time. So don't worry about me and my interaction with "girls" in the real world. Those comments are silly.
All this because I said Seyka doesn't look as feminine as her real life model lol and you think I have the problem?
@GreatAuk Dude the fact most of this comment thread is you going on about a video game characters looks speaks volumes.
@GrimReaper this ain't something like assassins creed. this is a particular female character story dude...there will be no swapping genders
Eh whatever. I was only responding to all the members who made counterarguments that were addressed to me. I thought to respond to replies was good etiquette. It was a healthy debate. Instead I get called weird and pathetic because some find the subject matter unpalatable. Whatever that's fine.
@GreatAuk Yeah fun thing my comment didn't actually single out anyone, you saw it and took offence even though my comment was really just calling out everyone who was still going on about this tired subject of "Aloy isn't hot enough" because let's face it that's the issue here, its not about being too feminine or too masculine its the fact Aloy hasn't been designed too look like Lara Croft or whoever. You never seen this debate if a male character doesn't look gruff enough its only ever when a female character hasn't been made to look like the new favourite subject of Pornhub.
ah I see.
you don't think the character looks really realistic or are you saying it's realistic but not uncanny valley?
no problem thanks for clearing it up.
@middyone Definitely could've worded it better. The character looks realistic enough, but there's just enough "off" that it doesn't provoke a reaction in the back of one's mind, while if it were completely photorealistic it would.
@WallyWest I totally agree with you on that.
@BeerIsAwesome interesting. I don't think i've ever actually experienced uncanny valley but it's good that guerilla was able to push through so it wouldn't activate for you and others. i'm sure they could all the way if they really wanted it to but i think this way fits their art style better. still the best looking npcs i've ever seen in a game...let alone open world. just look at my profile pic...that's in game
She looks pretty! I look forward to helping them out in the DLC.
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