@Fiendish-Beaver now I've seen the latest what the steam machine and emulation can do I'll be heading that way I think. Games are much cheaper and you can sail the high seas if you want. No subs to play online. You can literally play all gens on it. I can't see Sony doing any more consoles after the next console anyway, sales will take a big hit I reckon by recent news as well as the cost of the console itself. It will be all done by streaming after the PS6 I reckon but i wouldn't be surprised if a streaming box was released soon after for people who can't afford a £1000 console
Sony only understands money and I see a fare few people are ridiculing its games and the company. Maybe if studios start putting pressure on Sony they may rethink it's position on cancelling physical media. Without Games PlayStation is nothing, the more financial pressure people put on them the better.
@Mr-Cage covering his mouth with his hand even if it was enough time to say a single word is a bookable offence. Messi was clearly trying to equal the teams via sending off. Hardly cheating is it
@Papa_Godzilla Okay so why not play through the game and the sell it after while it's worth more?. You don't get anything in return for digital games. I get the sense of laziness from this, would you disagree?
Okay but with this recent news has anyone changed from buying digital to physical? I can imagine this news will have had an impact and now more people could be buying physical instead
Imagine if every PS owner voiced their concern over physical rather than arguing with eachother because you've gone all digital. While you might have gone digital not everyone else likes that. The thing is digital stores won't disappear but physical discs will that fellow people collect
I'll just say No business is bigger than it's customers. Who remembers Xbox one's disaster announcement with online check in? They never recovered from that and it still effects them today, I know after that announcement I jumped over to PS4 after my Xbox 360 suffered the red ring of death. If Sony actually believes this won't effect them then sadly they're mistaken. Sony won't be able to handle the financial loss like Xbox did that's for sure
@Furious-Fingers Actually 50-65% buy physical media so that's why Sony should continue making them. The 80% digital figure was including games that never got a physical disc release. Nothing like Sony trying to mislead people for justification eh
@Dogbreath nothing like walking around with your eyes closed because you don't like hearing the truth. Haha do you honestly believe it's not going to effect their sales if the prices being branded around turn out to be true of near to £1000 for an all digital console? I guarantee a large a chunk of people will find alternative platforms for gaming instead or quit altogether. Since I never got a discount for playstation plus renewal on Black Friday I only subscribe the odd month and cancel again with my feedback being cost of living. Usually I would get an annual pass but when you don't get an offer like some people did I refuse to pay full whack
Sony are going full stupid with this decision and they're seeing the backlash now, but let's just see if they've got the balls to see it through eh
Wasn't it revealed recently by leaked information that Playstation digital Vs physical releases are being screwed. According to leaked sales figures, Sony's first party games which got a physical release were no way near 80% digital but more like 35% to 50% but figures are being screwed by including games that never got a physical release
What I will say is their are some individuals on this site making some small minded comments who are ignorant to the fact physical games still has a place and PC stores are different to consoles. I do wonder if we have people on here from the ESA or lobbying groups with some of the comedy comments I've read.
PC is different to consoles and that's the bottom line..
With PC's you aren't locked into a closed eco system. You have multiple store fronts. You can back your games up to disc without any drm depending on store.
Games are much cheaper and will carry on playing for generations.
No subs for online play.
You can self host servers that aren't illegal... Yes ESA
That's not the case with consoles and Sony PlayStation will suffer huge losses by this decision. Them losses will eventually be passed onto customers that still stand by the brand. We're seeing it with the constant price increases with PS plus keep going up.
As a casual gamer myself who owns a PC and multiple consoles this news is terrible, I'm at the point now I'm considering giving up on future consoles, especially if the prices turn out to be true for the PS6. 37 years of gaming with the PS5 likely being the last modern console I own and hand down to my lad in a year or two.
I'm sure if there were much stronger protections put in place for digital ownership people might not be as bothered but too many horror stories in the past and recently shows digital ownership is not great at all. Our current Governments are a mess right now and you can't count on them to do the right thing either. All we can do is keep fighting and highlighting the issues surrounding digital ownership.
@Slayer25c To be honest I don't get much time these days to game with having kids. The last I heard was the themes were removed but Playstation said would bring them back. I haven't heard anything since about it. So are the themes back then?
What ever happened to the quirky edgy commercials that playstation was known for? Now we get the boring everyday action and with noise that causes your ears to bleed
@Kraaatos by the time GTA6 is released the PS6 will be soon out. I'll save myself £700 now instead of wasting it on hardware that's going to be surpassed in 4 years time if not sooner
MK and SF have been ripping people off with the most basic characters that should be playable from the start and included on the disc. Bring back the glory days of owning a full game instead of drip feeding characters and charging for them
It would be interesting to see a poll on how many members bought a pro and who didn't buy one considering the back lash it received
I think this just sets a marker now for Sony to charge a damn site more now for future consoles. I can't believe Sony were charging shy of 1k for the 30th anniversary pro, absolute bonkers. They at least never tried to rip people off with the limited PS4
In response to people who say if you can afford a £500 console then you can afford a £700 console. Maybe it hadn't crossed your mind that people realise what value is and when a company is taking the p***
If you think a minimal upgrade over the base model with the disc drive taken away and charging £200 more offers great value then knock your socks off
Imo it's over priced for what it offers. The base price should have dropped and pro could have had slight increase over the base and included a disc drive
Well at least we know the price region now for when the PS6 does arrive. I think the PS5 will be my last console now as the pricing is getting out of a control. PlayStation are going the same route as Microsoft and heading for all digital and wouldn't be surprised if there is no option for discs on PS6
@Mikey856 Haha no mate, I've never welded in my life. I do light aircraft ducting for Boeing and others which we make up using a mesh material and liquid plastic from plaster moulds. Its very boring but easy, the money isn't great. I was just curious how long it would take to learn welding after your comment about the money you can earn but when you have a family to support it's difficult to re skill
@Mikey856 How long would it take a complete novice to get to a reasonable level at welding? It's difficult when you have a family to support. I'm just doing bog standard production work for aircrafts and the money is crap
It's all about control these days with log ins. If you were to end up getting banned then you can say good bye to accessing all your purchased games. "Now do as you're told and fall into line"
@ChrisDeku Maybe Sony don't want to be linked with modern day slavery. 10-20hr unpaid work a week pfff. No wonder the world is the way it is with companies taking advantage of these people.
Ah could we be going back to the good old days with zero saves and just 3 continues. The console that runs on vodka coolant and that doesn't break but breaks the player instead.
Fastest selling game is different to how many units sold. I'm sure digital only has harmed it's full potential. This could mean it's sold 1000 units in a new record time. It proves nothing but when everything goes all digital will be the day I hang up my the current gen joypad and go back to retro
@TechGuyChris what's efficient about using a PS5 for Netflix or Hulu other than ease. It's not efficient energy wise when you can use the TV app or streaming box without the humming of the PS in the background. I never watch anything on the PS5 personally and predominantly use it for gaming as well
As far as this year's NBA2K goes is the gameplay and graphics any better than last year's? I mainly play single player exhibitions matches using teams from 90s
I enjoyed the Mario movie but this new Turtles films art style just doesn't do it for me. Don wearing glasses and April's looks to be reaching out for inclusivity which just boils my p**"
I didn't really like the Michael bay turtles films either.
They should have just rebooted the 90s turtles films
Someone on YouTube made the MGS1 intro using UE5 and it's s#&t hot. Now if only Konami weren't so lazy and actually rebuilt the game using that engine it would sell well
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Re: Sony's New 'It Happens on PS5' Ad Has Gone Down Exactly as You'd Expect
@Fiendish-Beaver now I've seen the latest what the steam machine and emulation can do I'll be heading that way I think. Games are much cheaper and you can sail the high seas if you want. No subs to play online. You can literally play all gens on it. I can't see Sony doing any more consoles after the next console anyway, sales will take a big hit I reckon by recent news as well as the cost of the console itself. It will be all done by streaming after the PS6 I reckon but i wouldn't be surprised if a streaming box was released soon after for people who can't afford a £1000 console
Re: 'It's a Relentless Onslaught': Wolverine PS5 Dev Responds to Unprecedented Criticism
Sony only understands money and I see a fare few people are ridiculing its games and the company. Maybe if studios start putting pressure on Sony they may rethink it's position on cancelling physical media. Without Games PlayStation is nothing, the more financial pressure people put on them the better.
Re: Early Data Suggests Unspectacular Start for Halo on PS5
If they actually included the whole game on the disc it may have got more sales
Re: Real Madrid, France Star Kylian Mbappe Fronts FC 27 Cover Art
@Mr-Cage covering his mouth with his hand even if it was enough time to say a single word is a bookable offence. Messi was clearly trying to equal the teams via sending off. Hardly cheating is it
Re: 'They May As Well Eliminate the Hardware Too': Japanese Dev Says Sony 'Doesn't Understand' the Feelings of Fans
@Papa_Godzilla Okay so why not play through the game and the sell it after while it's worth more?. You don't get anything in return for digital games. I get the sense of laziness from this, would you disagree?
Re: Sales Data Paints a Very Grim Picture for Physical PS5 Games in the USA, UK
Okay but with this recent news has anyone changed from buying digital to physical? I can imagine this news will have had an impact and now more people could be buying physical instead
Re: Claims Sony Has Disabled YouTube Comments Over Physical Disc Backlash Are Not True
Imagine if every PS owner voiced their concern over physical rather than arguing with eachother because you've gone all digital. While you might have gone digital not everyone else likes that. The thing is digital stores won't disappear but physical discs will that fellow people collect
Re: Brazil Is Taking On Digital Games Ownership and Preservation After Sony Says No More Discs
I'll just say No business is bigger than it's customers. Who remembers Xbox one's disaster announcement with online check in? They never recovered from that and it still effects them today, I know after that announcement I jumped over to PS4 after my Xbox 360 suffered the red ring of death. If Sony actually believes this won't effect them then sadly they're mistaken. Sony won't be able to handle the financial loss like Xbox did that's for sure
Re: PS Plus Discounts Being Offered to Fans Cancelling in Protest
@MrPeanutbutterz Let's see how many PS6's are sold after all this
Re: Practically Every Comment on PlayStation's YouTube Is Now About Physical Discs
@Furious-Fingers Actually 50-65% buy physical media so that's why Sony should continue making them. The 80% digital figure was including games that never got a physical disc release. Nothing like Sony trying to mislead people for justification eh
Re: Reaction: Travelling the World Made Me Realise What PlayStation Is About to Lose
@Dogbreath nothing like walking around with your eyes closed because you don't like hearing the truth. Haha do you honestly believe it's not going to effect their sales if the prices being branded around turn out to be true of near to £1000 for an all digital console? I guarantee a large a chunk of people will find alternative platforms for gaming instead or quit altogether. Since I never got a discount for playstation plus renewal on Black Friday I only subscribe the odd month and cancel again with my feedback being cost of living. Usually I would get an annual pass but when you don't get an offer like some people did I refuse to pay full whack
Sony are going full stupid with this decision and they're seeing the backlash now, but let's just see if they've got the balls to see it through eh
Re: Reaction: Travelling the World Made Me Realise What PlayStation Is About to Lose
Wasn't it revealed recently by leaked information that Playstation digital Vs physical releases are being screwed. According to leaked sales figures, Sony's first party games which got a physical release were no way near 80% digital but more like 35% to 50% but figures are being screwed by including games that never got a physical release
What I will say is their are some individuals on this site making some small minded comments who are ignorant to the fact physical games still has a place and PC stores are different to consoles. I do wonder if we have people on here from the ESA or lobbying groups with some of the comedy comments I've read.
PC is different to consoles and that's the bottom line..
With PC's you aren't locked into a closed eco system. You have multiple store fronts. You can back your games up to disc without any drm depending on store.
Games are much cheaper and will carry on playing for generations.
No subs for online play.
You can self host servers that aren't illegal... Yes ESA
That's not the case with consoles and Sony PlayStation will suffer huge losses by this decision. Them losses will eventually be passed onto customers that still stand by the brand. We're seeing it with the constant price increases with PS plus keep going up.
As a casual gamer myself who owns a PC and multiple consoles this news is terrible, I'm at the point now I'm considering giving up on future consoles, especially if the prices turn out to be true for the PS6. 37 years of gaming with the PS5 likely being the last modern console I own and hand down to my lad in a year or two.
I'm sure if there were much stronger protections put in place for digital ownership people might not be as bothered but too many horror stories in the past and recently shows digital ownership is not great at all. Our current Governments are a mess right now and you can't count on them to do the right thing either.
All we can do is keep fighting and highlighting the issues surrounding digital ownership.
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on 007 First Light?
There was only one Bond game that I enjoyed and that was GoldenEye.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Sold an Outrageous 2 Million Copies on PS5 in a Month
@Slayer25c To be honest I don't get much time these days to game with having kids. The last I heard was the themes were removed but Playstation said would bring them back. I haven't heard anything since about it. So are the themes back then?
Re: Blackpink's Lisa Is the New Global Face of PlayStation
What ever happened to the quirky edgy commercials that playstation was known for? Now we get the boring everyday action and with noise that causes your ears to bleed
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Sold an Outrageous 2 Million Copies on PS5 in a Month
Have Sony bought the anniversary themes back yet after people voiced their opinion? Or were Sony pretending hoping people would forget
Re: Stop Killing Games Fights to Stop Publishers from Revoking Access to Full-Price Products
What's wrong with allowing the public to host games locally. If Sony no longer wants to support the servers then they should allow you to host them
Re: Sony Brings Back Iconic PS1 Startup Screen on PS5, But Only for a Limited Time
Is this for all PS5's or just the 30th anniversary console?
Like people have already said. We need to bombard Sony to reverse the decision allowing us to keep it.
Re: Rumour: Mortal Kombat 1's Future DLC Cancelled After Poor Sales of Khaos Reigns
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Re: PS5 Pro Pre-Orders Are Stronger Than PS4 Pro, But Scalpers Are Losing Money
I doubt these are selling more than the PS4 pro
Re: Fans Appear to Be Coming Around to PS5 Pro
@Kraaatos by the time GTA6 is released the PS6 will be soon out. I'll save myself £700 now instead of wasting it on hardware that's going to be surpassed in 4 years time if not sooner
Re: Mini Review: Mortal Kombat 1: Khaos Reigns (PS5) – DLC Add-On Is Mostly Unfunny and Overpriced
MK and SF have been ripping people off with the most basic characters that should be playable from the start and included on the disc. Bring back the glory days of owning a full game instead of drip feeding characters and charging for them
Re: In the UK, PS5 Pro Has Already Completely Sold Out
It would be interesting to see a poll on how many members bought a pro and who didn't buy one considering the back lash it received
I think this just sets a marker now for Sony to charge a damn site more now for future consoles. I can't believe Sony were charging shy of 1k for the 30th anniversary pro, absolute bonkers. They at least never tried to rip people off with the limited PS4
Re: How to Pre-Order PS5's 30th Anniversary Collection
Many on eBay now for £5000 haha
Re: Battlefield Fans Triangulate Real-World Location Shown in Concept Art
Bad company and Battlefield Vietnam was pretty decent games. It's these we want EA!!!!!
Re: Feature: PS5 Pro's Been Clowned on By the Entire Internet, and the Memes Will Make You Laugh
In response to people who say if you can afford a £500 console then you can afford a £700 console. Maybe it hadn't crossed your mind that people realise what value is and when a company is taking the p***
If you think a minimal upgrade over the base model with the disc drive taken away and charging £200 more offers great value then knock your socks off
Imo it's over priced for what it offers. The base price should have dropped and pro could have had slight increase over the base and included a disc drive
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
Well at least we know the price region now for when the PS6 does arrive. I think the PS5 will be my last console now as the pricing is getting out of a control. PlayStation are going the same route as Microsoft and heading for all digital and wouldn't be surprised if there is no option for discs on PS6
Re: PlayStation to Mark 30th Anniversary with New Gran Turismo Demo, Merch, Soundtracks
Bring back the PS1 intro when it boots up
Re: Test Drive Unlimited Developer Joins Spiders in Strike Against Nacon
@Mikey856 Haha no mate, I've never welded in my life. I do light aircraft ducting for Boeing and others which we make up using a mesh material and liquid plastic from plaster moulds. Its very boring but easy, the money isn't great. I was just curious how long it would take to learn welding after your comment about the money you can earn but when you have a family to support it's difficult to re skill
Re: Test Drive Unlimited Developer Joins Spiders in Strike Against Nacon
@Mikey856 How long would it take a complete novice to get to a reasonable level at welding? It's difficult when you have a family to support. I'm just doing bog standard production work for aircrafts and the money is crap
Re: Helldivers 2 PC Is Getting Review Bombed Over PSN Requirement
It's all about control these days with log ins. If you were to end up getting banned then you can say good bye to accessing all your purchased games. "Now do as you're told and fall into line"
Re: New PlayStation CEO Hiroki Totoki Starts Temporary Role Today
@ChrisDeku Maybe Sony don't want to be linked with modern day slavery. 10-20hr unpaid work a week pfff. No wonder the world is the way it is with companies taking advantage of these people.
Re: Random: Vladimir Putin Considers Creation of Russian Gaming Console
Ah could we be going back to the good old days with zero saves and just 3 continues. The console that runs on vodka coolant and that doesn't break but breaks the player instead.
Re: SEGA Drops Relic Entertainment and Cuts Back Across the UK
@TheCollector316 it's called self reliance, people could learn a thing or two instead of mommy wiping their backsides
Re: Baldur's Gate 3, Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Lead the Way at the BAFTAs
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Re: Helldivers 2 Dev Clarifies Farmers Aren't Directly Hurting War Effort
That image looks like Geoff Keighley having a meltdown over the servers being congested
Re: Disney Epic Mickey: Rebrushed Paints a Picture on PS5, PS4 in 2024
Now remaster Castle of illusion
Re: Without a Physical PS5 Release, Alan Wake 2 Is Still Remedy's Fastest Selling Game
Fastest selling game is different to how many units sold. I'm sure digital only has harmed it's full potential. This could mean it's sold 1000 units in a new record time. It proves nothing but when everything goes all digital will be the day I hang up my the current gen joypad and go back to retro
Re: Looks Like This Is the New Lara Croft in PS5's Next Tomb Raider
@4UDIOTAPE unrealistic proportions? I take it you never watched Eurotrash then with Lola ?
Re: Kojima: Your Mother Won't Be Able to Tell the Difference Between PHYSINT and a Movie
I wish my mum could witness this but she died of starvation from being locked in supermarket
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
Xbox as been in a coma since the days of the Don Mattrick announcement now Phil is about to pull the plug.
It will be a shame to see Xbox leave the console market though
Re: All PS Plus Members Handed a Movie Discount on Sony Pictures Core
@TechGuyChris what's efficient about using a PS5 for Netflix or Hulu other than ease. It's not efficient energy wise when you can use the TV app or streaming box without the humming of the PS in the background. I never watch anything on the PS5 personally and predominantly use it for gaming as well
Re: RoboCop: Rogue City Is Much More of an RPG Than You Might Think
When you look back at what movie adapted games they were on the mega drive and snes to today's consoles it's shocking.
It's about time games like this get shown some love and made for the newer gen consoles
Re: NBA 2K24 (PS5) - Stunning Sports Game Wants You to Spend
As far as this year's NBA2K goes is the gameplay and graphics any better than last year's? I mainly play single player exhibitions matches using teams from 90s
Re: Latest TMNT Film Gets a Video Game Sequel, Out Next Year
I enjoyed the Mario movie but this new Turtles films art style just doesn't do it for me. Don wearing glasses and April's looks to be reaching out for inclusivity which just boils my p**"
I didn't really like the Michael bay turtles films either.
They should have just rebooted the 90s turtles films
Re: Fortnite Boss Donald Mustard Is Stepping Down
Haha his hair style is mustard. I'd still take that style over man buns from today.
Re: Playtesting RoboCop: Rogue City Next Week a Potential Prime Directive
To apply for this do you have to be some type of college boy or something? I bet you got to be pretty smart
Re: Build Your Dream Theme Park in RollerCoaster Tycoon Adventures Deluxe on PS5, PS4
Ah Theme park and Theme hospital were pretty good games back on the PS1
Re: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Is Out for PS5 on 24th October
Someone on YouTube made the MGS1 intro using UE5 and it's s#&t hot. Now if only Konami weren't so lazy and actually rebuilt the game using that engine it would sell well
Re: Iconic Batman Voice Actor Kevin Conroy Has Passed Away
Curse Gotham Nights