I would argue Concord was launched well, the game function perfectly, largely bug free, it had a good ad campaign an budget. An a on going marketing support plan, Secret Level for example. An a regular release of new animation shorts.
Games just didn't take to the game and didn't buy it, that doesn't mean it wasn't launched well.
They are brilliant at telling a story. I seriously doubt everything they show in the video was built in a few weeks. I suspect most if not all of the features was taken from their new game .
If there was a few PVE story missions as jobs I would have paid. But it doesn't have the hype of helldiver 2 and the player base and I don't want to buy a game dead on arrival.
If I could walk around the ship and added stuff that could also be enjoyable.
It clear Sony is slowly taking control of Bungie. I don't think this is Microsoft situation where management will buy Sony out either. I wouldn't be surprised if in five years it a completely different management team and all that really remains is Bungie the name, and Destiny and Marathon and it other IPs.
It seems the only thing it really got was the name. When you considered what else was up for sale, Square Enix flogging it's western studios around that time for less money, you got to wonder if Sony would have gotten a better return elsewhere.
Also thinking Bungie wasn't going to be integrated into Sony PlayStation Studios eventually was delusional on the part of the management.
It about price price and price. £35 quid and it might pretty well. It will need a bit of love and attention from Sony over the next year. An a solid road map
@GamingFan4Lyf Thing is it working. ghost of tsushima is there best selling game to date on stream. The loud mouths crying about PSN requirements is very much a minority.
From the trailer it seems a AI went rogue it both hates and love humans. But there also something else, something that is playing a game with the AI. This could be interesting.
@TheAmbienWalrus I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happen already, especially EA football game, ads boards surrounding footballs. I suspect that may be FIFA ban it.
@Fyz306903 They might actually shut that loss making division down. Sony has a nice business making shows for other streaming network, netflix and apple and HBO who front the money and thr risk and Sony just takes profit's from charging for producing the content.
That would be a cheaper strategy than trying to turnaround paramount+ which has loss billions.
@ED_209 they can license out the content to third party studios to create games exclusively to PlayStation Console and may be even a exclusive pc gaming store that I'm sure they will eventually launch.
Apollo money and Sony management. What could go wrong!!! I do see a bit of potential and Sony and Apollo can probably up their bid to 30bn if Sony start to put their own money into the bid. An of they take the same approach to some of their music acquisitions I seem them acquiring control overtime.
@tameshiyaku It good to have a diverse set of gaming products. As long as you don't have shareholders demand you plow everything into the most profitable thing you do.
@StrickenBiged The writers may even have to be more than just writers, they may have to expand their skill set to be AI trainers as well and may be world builders to ensure no matter what us idiot gamers say, we all end up basically with the same ending or one of a number of endings and they can get their story told.
@Bamila That was essentially just a bit of programming that took text, run it through ChatGPT and then show it response to the player.
Those characters could say anything through, even things unrelated to the game or to the character themselves. a accountant could talk about massages or how it was like being a premier league footballer.
Building a system that allows you talk to a character but it response is inline with that character views and inline with the world that character live, you don't want medieval peasants talking about PS5s or aliens in the distant future discussing how terrible of a soap opera Eastenders is.
What we actually want is to be able to tell a drug dealer that drugs are great, an elicit a response of the drug dealer agreeing with you.
Tell a doctor that drugs are great and you will get a response of the doctor disagreeing with you, may be even a story of how drug have has harmed of their patients. Tell the police that you have drugs on you, you want them to arrest you or least die trying.
Where the matrix demo will likely get ChatGPT to produce the same answer for all characters, drugs are bad, here a number to help you give up drugs.
Probably should have done this as their first game, not spent a 100 million plus of investor money on developing the flop the Callisto Protocol. Does anyone actually wants a sequel to that game?
Anyway this look like their last throw of the dice to keep the studio alive. Hope it goes well for them and they can make some money for the studio an its poor investors.
@Player_1_Ready PS6 wasn't wasn't supposed to come out until presumably November 2028.
I honestly don't expect Xbox to be much more powerful then the pro. I think they realise they screwed up on having to separate system with different capabilities and want to correct that by releasing what is essentially pro version of Xbox and get rid of S and X.
probably wiggling their thumbs trying to make sense of the code they are looking, realising they haven't actually done any real coding years or art creation or testing or aka any real work in years.
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Re: Soapbox: Astro's Playroom PS5 Did Live Service and You Didn't Even Notice
I would argue Concord was launched well, the game function perfectly, largely bug free, it had a good ad campaign an budget. An a on going marketing support plan, Secret Level for example. An a regular release of new animation shorts.
Games just didn't take to the game and didn't buy it, that doesn't mean it wasn't launched well.
Re: Minecraft's Weird Live Action Movie Is Going to Be Massive, Isn't It?
Doesn't look minecraft enough.
Re: New Fishing Mechanic the Highlight of Next No Man's Sky PS5, PS4 Update
They are brilliant at telling a story. I seriously doubt everything they show in the video was built in a few weeks. I suspect most if not all of the features was taken from their new game .
Re: Site News: Where's Our Concord PS5, PC Review?
If there was a few PVE story missions as jobs I would have paid. But it doesn't have the hype of helldiver 2 and the player base and I don't want to buy a game dead on arrival.
If I could walk around the ship and added stuff that could also be enjoyable.
Re: PS5 Open World Crimson Desert Gets 7 Minutes of Raw Gameplay, and It Looks Ridiculous
The boss enemy AI needs significant improvement.
Re: Bungie to Reveal the Future of Destiny and Its Next Multi-Year Journey Soon
It clear Sony is slowly taking control of Bungie. I don't think this is Microsoft situation where management will buy Sony out either. I wouldn't be surprised if in five years it a completely different management team and all that really remains is Bungie the name, and Destiny and Marathon and it other IPs.
Re: Pour One Out for PS4 Exclusive WiLD, No Longer in Active Development
@Vivisapprentice I think Ubisoft will never formally cancelled Beyond Good and Evil 2,
Re: Concord's Free Open Beta Is Performing Abysmally on PC
@WhiteRabbit An then put those in a position where they can refuse to sale, like Arrowhead reportedly did.
Re: Reaction: PS5 Needs a Price Cut
PS5 is likely ahead 7% in US because of the collapse of Xbox.
Re: Overlooked PS5 RPG Atlas Fallen Just Got Its Game-Changing Reign of Sand Update
@Kiefer-Sutherland Try CTEX, they had it for a fiver when I was there today.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Billion Dollar Bungie Buyout Is Looking More and More Like a Blunder
It seems the only thing it really got was the name. When you considered what else was up for sale, Square Enix flogging it's western studios around that time for less money, you got to wonder if Sony would have gotten a better return elsewhere.
Also thinking Bungie wasn't going to be integrated into Sony PlayStation Studios eventually was delusional on the part of the management.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for July 2024 Announced
Among us is always fun.for a quick 10 minutes or so, one to save for when something is updating or downloading.
Never played a borderlands game go will give that a swirl. This is much better than last month's.
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Took 60 Developers Around Three Years to Make
@nomither6 I beat it in the first day of owning PS5
Re: Bandai Namco Confirms Summer Showcase Stuffed with Announcements and Reveals
Not when a trailer cost 250k a minute! It understandable why Namco would decide to announce everything at it own show instead.
Re: Final Fantasy 9 Remake Is Almost Certainly Real as Another Database Leak Appears
FF6, FF7, FF8,FF9 is probably single greatest run of games in video history. It been all downhill since ff10.
Re: Final Fantasy 9 Remake Is Almost Certainly Real as Another Database Leak Appears
Well I'm going to be disappointed if the game isn't at least as good as this fan made version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaMiPb6KiWo
Re: Random: What Happens to Your Digital PSN Library When You Die?
Someone will eventually legislate for this an things will most likely change globally .
Re: Big New PS5, PC Shooter Concord Has an Uphill Battle Ahead of It
It about price price and price. £35 quid and it might pretty well. It will need a bit of love and attention from Sony over the next year. An a solid road map
Re: PC Players Are Fuming Until Dawn, God of War Ragnarok Appear to Require PSN Logins
@GamingFan4Lyf Thing is it working. ghost of tsushima is there best selling game to date on stream. The loud mouths crying about PSN requirements is very much a minority.
Re: PC Players Are Fuming Until Dawn, God of War Ragnarok Appear to Require PSN Logins
Looking forward to outrage when they are only available via playstation PC store
Re: New Game from Dan Houser's Absurd Ventures Reportedly Set in Expanded Sci-Fi Universe
From the trailer it seems a AI went rogue it both hates and love humans. But there also something else, something that is playing a game with the AI.
This could be interesting.
Re: EA Exploring 'Thoughtful Implementations' of In-Game Advertising
@TheAmbienWalrus I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happen already, especially EA football game, ads boards surrounding footballs. I suspect that may be FIFA ban it.
Re: Sony and Apollo Reportedly Make $26 Billion All-Cash Paramount Bid
@Fyz306903 They might actually shut that loss making division down. Sony has a nice business making shows for other streaming network, netflix and apple and HBO who front the money and thr risk and Sony just takes profit's from charging for producing the content.
That would be a cheaper strategy than trying to turnaround paramount+ which has loss billions.
Re: Sony and Apollo Reportedly Make $26 Billion All-Cash Paramount Bid
@ED_209 they can license out the content to third party studios to create games exclusively to PlayStation Console and may be even a exclusive pc gaming store that I'm sure they will eventually launch.
Re: Sony and Apollo Reportedly Make $26 Billion All-Cash Paramount Bid
Apollo money and Sony management. What could go wrong!!! I do see a bit of potential and Sony and Apollo can probably up their bid to 30bn if Sony start to put their own money into the bid. An of they take the same approach to some of their music acquisitions I seem them acquiring control overtime.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 524
Playing through immortals of Aveum. A fun game. That deserve way more sales than it got.
Re: Random: The Brutal PS1 Driver Intro Even Bested F1 Pro Lewis Hamilton
I had the game. Can't remember the tutorial being that tough to be honest. But I was a demon when it comes to driving games on ps1.
Re: Random: The Brutal PS1 Driver Intro Even Bested F1 Pro Lewis Hamilton
@Pat_trick of cause.
Re: PSN Data Says Foamstars' Future Is Bleak, Just Two Months After Release
@Anke When there is zero potential for a mega hit like Helldivers 2.
Re: PSN Data Says Foamstars' Future Is Bleak, Just Two Months After Release
@Maubari Helldivers 2 has a thing or two to say about people not wanting these games.
Re: PSN Data Says Foamstars' Future Is Bleak, Just Two Months After Release
I tried playing it but could only get 1 game in a hour of trying. If you can't play it there no point to the game.
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Shift Up Already Hiring for Next AAA Project
@tameshiyaku It good to have a diverse set of gaming products. As long as you don't have shareholders demand you plow everything into the most profitable thing you do.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Dragon's Dogma 2, Rise of the Ronin Can't Beat Princess Peach
@Drago201 Same as GTA5 in some markets.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2024 Announced
@sonicmeerkat Knack 2 will come when they are about to release knack 3.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2024 Announced
I will certainly give Immortals of Aveum a try.
Re: Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra the Official Name of Amy Hennig's Marvel Game, Out in 2025
This might be one of the first games that truly unlocking the power of PS5 and Xbox Series x.
Re: Ubisoft's NEO NPC Prototype Offers a Glimpse at a Generative AI Future for Games
@StrickenBiged The writers may even have to be more than just writers, they may have to expand their skill set to be AI trainers as well and may be world builders to ensure no matter what us idiot gamers say, we all end up basically with the same ending or one of a number of endings and they can get their story told.
Re: Ubisoft's NEO NPC Prototype Offers a Glimpse at a Generative AI Future for Games
@Bamila That was essentially just a bit of programming that took text, run it through ChatGPT and then show it response to the player.
Those characters could say anything through, even things unrelated to the game or to the character themselves. a accountant could talk about massages or how it was like being a premier league footballer.
Building a system that allows you talk to a character but it response is inline with that character views and inline with the world that character live, you don't want medieval peasants talking about PS5s or aliens in the distant future discussing how terrible of a soap opera Eastenders is.
What we actually want is to be able to tell a drug dealer that drugs are great, an elicit a response of the drug dealer agreeing with you.
Tell a doctor that drugs are great and you will get a response of the doctor disagreeing with you, may be even a story of how drug have has harmed of their patients. Tell the police that you have drugs on you, you want them to arrest you or least die trying.
Where the matrix demo will likely get ChatGPT to produce the same answer for all characters, drugs are bad, here a number to help you give up drugs.
Re: Callisto Protocol Dev Reveals Top-Down Spin-Off Project Birdseye
Probably should have done this as their first game, not spent a 100 million plus of investor money on developing the flop the Callisto Protocol. Does anyone actually wants a sequel to that game?
Anyway this look like their last throw of the dice to keep the studio alive. Hope it goes well for them and they can make some money for the studio an its poor investors.
Re: There's a Squirrel with a Gun, and He's Firing at PS5
This looks nuts.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro Is Up to Three Times Faster Than PS5 as Specs Surface
@Player_1_Ready PS6 wasn't wasn't supposed to come out until presumably November 2028.
I honestly don't expect Xbox to be much more powerful then the pro. I think they realise they screwed up on having to separate system with different capabilities and want to correct that by releasing what is essentially pro version of Xbox and get rid of S and X.
Re: Up to 90% Off Major PS5, PS4 Games in New PS Store Sale
Ace combat is tempting.
Re: Helldivers 2 Dev Pours Cold Water on PlayStation Acquisition Rumours
Not a take over but I do wonder if Sony will ask them if they can take an play test some of their GAAS games
Re: Big PS5, PS4 Games Are a Pittance with PS Plus This Weekend
Well I nab Star Wars Squadron, Mass Effect Legendary condition, Bioshock, I don't know when I will get time play any of them through!
Re: London Studio's PS5 Live Service Fantasy Co-Op Game Will Never See the Light of Day
@AK4tywill Twisted Metal seem just about perfect for the live service treatment as well.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Bucks Industry Trend with Rising Weekly Sales
I want to get into this game before all the Meta take over an the game and players becomes to serious. So will be buying it this week.
Re: 700 Ubisoft Workers Strike in France Following Failed Salary Negotiations
@breakneck If they do, it unlikely to be in France, where sacking people is hard, an expensive and time consuming.
Re: 700 Ubisoft Workers Strike in France Following Failed Salary Negotiations
probably wiggling their thumbs trying to make sense of the code they are looking, realising they haven't actually done any real coding years or art creation or testing or aka any real work in years.
Re: Helldivers 2 on PS5, PC Is One of the Biggest Games on the Planet Right Now
@WanderWhere It been like a week, Given Sony a minute.
Re: Helldivers 2 on PS5, PC Is One of the Biggest Games on the Planet Right Now
Why try and replicate it, it would be easier and safer for Sony to acquire Arrowhead instead.