They'd need to sell it in stores to make it sell in my opinion. Having it only purchasable through Steam only (and I don't know if they sell Valve hardware on Amazon or any other e-commerce site) will hinder sales numbers and relevance.
And I don't mind more competition. Since Microsoft has nearly bowed out of the console space, this would give both Sony and Nintendo much needed pushback (paying for online multiplayer and cloud saves, a few other things, discounts on games, maybe mods) to try add more value and appeal to their audiences (again, if this does end up being a serious competitor against them).
I really can't see any benefit to using this on a home console.
But I do agree on this being useful for a handheld, similar to PSP and PS Vita with their standby (or sleep) modes. I remember keeping these things in sleep for weeks and months only to lose a percentage or two of battery, it's insane.
But in all seriousness, it's crazy how little they've invested in the VR2 since launch even with price drop and PC support, you'd think it would be doing great. Might as well be another PS Vita situation at this point.
I would rather buy any classic game (that's listed on the store anyway) than pay for premium currently. Like 1 or 2 games every month is slow and I don't see the other benefits I don't really use (I don't use cloud other than PS Stars, don't use Share Play, don't use the Sony streaming service).
I went back to standard only because of the cloud storage between PS3/PSV/4/5, that's it.
I would agree that scope creep is a serious issue, especially for a bunch of the devs working at PlayStation. We've had multiple games within a single generation before!
I don't know. Nintendo seems to be doing really well with the Switch, Sony still doing well with the PS5. It's really only Microsoft who are struggling with hardware sales.
The only real issue I might agree with Layden on is software. Like he said in earlier interviews, you need games that can sell the system, yes can have blockbusters, but needing a balance from Indies and AA too, not betting all on live-service and AAA 100M+ projects that could make or break a company or studio.
Also less priority on hardware would be a better solution as well, as we've now reached diminishing returns with the PS5 Pro, you can only go so far.
If we can't get these permanently, can we be able to get themes and color changes again?
Don't know why they would limit this when they already did all this work. My only other gripe also is I wish these were dynamic and not a PNG and didn't take a third of the screen, a bit pushed up more. But these are nice!
@GoatFace04 I also think locking certain stuff behind amiibos is also kind of scummy as well, there's only so many of each being made, and I don't know if the codes are even reusable, right?
Agree with everyone else here, this should not be a limited time thing for people to have different use of these themes, and also the use of custom sounds (or even different UI music) on the home screen.
Unless they add it in the next update, surely they will, it's otherwise a waste of development time to implement this in just only for a few days or few weeks at most...
Crazy how he's still there, and no one is questioning this problem. Not to mention still dealing with the other live-service projects and the mess that is current Bungie.
This is going to be Sony Rewards all over again at this point.
Used to be good, but they restricted the points to only some purchases with some products. Remember when you could get points for trophies? Although some people abused it too much, to be fair.
@Judal27 Same with Resident Evil: Director's Cut on PS3. You can't get it for free on PS5 if you own it on PS3/Vita, (to my knowledge, might be wrong) it's also only through Premium as well.
Capcom is being weird about this. At least Sony, Namco and some others can at least let you buy the games separately through the store (or honor past purchases through legacy storefronts).
@Gunnerzaurus Well I think they would either have to look at other sources of revenue (live service, micro transactions, paid DLC, ads on the home screen, remasters, mobile games) to keep funding these huge projects, or change their approach to only making smaller games with sometimes a release of said bigger title, which studios don't have the manpower to do.
We're also seeing them just give out licenses of dormant IPs to other companies who also want a multiplatform release by getting a cut from it (Freedom Wars with Bandai, WipeOut with Sega if that ends up being true).
This strategy of "Only on PlayStation" would not be sustainable long term now with how much of these AAA games are being sold, and how much it cost being developed (100+ million dollars).
I'm sorry, but this just sounds so extremely unnecessary. Same with any game made past 2018. It looks good enough, and plays fine, doesn't need a remastering.
@PuppetMaster I still find it so weird that he said that. And then not long after Astro Bot dropped with those VIP bots, that pretty much made his point redundant.
I think he was trying to say that they don't have much "new" IP (not just PlayStation, but Sony as a whole).
But they have more IP then Xbox and Nintendo combined, I believe, so why not use stuff you already have? (For example, this game!)
Definitely need competition, it'll only get worse otherwise.Xbox has great games as well, used to own a 360/Kinect bundle, used to play Gears and Halo, JSRF, came bundled with Peggle 2. Still have it for Lost Odyssey and other games.
@UltimateOtaku91 That would be crazy if they announced plans for one in development (I know there's rumours, but any direct confirmation from Sony would be great).
@UltimateOtaku91 Definitely agree there. They've done that in the past, someone can easily bring back those kinds of games, smallish budget, and let other AAA studios still work on their own projects.
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Re: Poll: Does the Steam Machine Pose a Threat to PS5?
They'd need to sell it in stores to make it sell in my opinion. Having it only purchasable through Steam only (and I don't know if they sell Valve hardware on Amazon or any other e-commerce site) will hinder sales numbers and relevance.
And I don't mind more competition. Since Microsoft has nearly bowed out of the console space, this would give both Sony and Nintendo much needed pushback (paying for online multiplayer and cloud saves, a few other things, discounts on games, maybe mods) to try add more value and appeal to their audiences (again, if this does end up being a serious competitor against them).
Re: Yakuza 3 Remake Backlash Blows Up Again as Actor Guilty of Sexual Harassment Stars in New Trailer
Still find it weird that they went out the way to put real life people onto already established characters, you end up with situations like these...
Same with Rikiya and the old guy (and Hamazaki). Like I genuinely didn't know those two were the same characters from the original.
Re: PS5's New Power Saver Feature Confirms Its First Supported Games
I really can't see any benefit to using this on a home console.
But I do agree on this being useful for a handheld, similar to PSP and PS Vita with their standby (or sleep) modes. I remember keeping these things in sleep for weeks and months only to lose a percentage or two of battery, it's insane.
It's only time till we actually see it.
Re: Sony's New PS5, PSVR2 Game May Be the Most Important It Releases This Year
Finally, a game Al Gore would approve of!
But in all seriousness, it's crazy how little they've invested in the VR2 since launch even with price drop and PC support, you'd think it would be doing great. Might as well be another PS Vita situation at this point.
Re: 38% of PS Plus Members Are Paying More for Extra, Premium
I would rather buy any classic game (that's listed on the store anyway) than pay for premium currently. Like 1 or 2 games every month is slow and I don't see the other benefits I don't really use (I don't use cloud other than PS Stars, don't use Share Play, don't use the Sony streaming service).
I went back to standard only because of the cloud storage between PS3/PSV/4/5, that's it.
Re: Astro Bot's Big Success the Result of Keeping Scope Small and Simple, Says Director
I would agree that scope creep is a serious issue, especially for a bunch of the devs working at PlayStation. We've had multiple games within a single generation before!
Re: Activision's 'AI Slop' Strikes Again as Fake Crash Bandicoot, Guitar Hero Games Appear Online
Guitar Hero has been dead for over a decade! Only now they bring it back like this...
Re: Physical Media Just Can't Catch a Break Right Now
There's the case of eventual disc rot and finding space to put all of those games as well.
Re: Rumour: Kadokawa Employees Eager for Sony Buyout and Change in Management
They should make Kadokawa operate independently like Bungie and Aniplex, and the other mobile studios they own. The less interference the better.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Thinks the Days of Consoles Are Numbered
I don't know. Nintendo seems to be doing really well with the Switch, Sony still doing well with the PS5. It's really only Microsoft who are struggling with hardware sales.
The only real issue I might agree with Layden on is software. Like he said in earlier interviews, you need games that can sell the system, yes can have blockbusters, but needing a balance from Indies and AA too, not betting all on live-service and AAA 100M+ projects that could make or break a company or studio.
Also less priority on hardware would be a better solution as well, as we've now reached diminishing returns with the PS5 Pro, you can only go so far.
Re: PS5 Users Are Begging for Themes, PS1 Startup Screen to Stay
If we can't get these permanently, can we be able to get themes and color changes again?
Don't know why they would limit this when they already did all this work. My only other gripe also is I wish these were dynamic and not a PNG and didn't take a third of the screen, a bit pushed up more. But these are nice!
Re: Sony Brings Back Iconic PS1 Startup Screen on PS5, But Only for a Limited Time
Can we also get custom music with themes as well?
Re: PS5 Home Screen Customisable with PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4 Themes for the 30th Anniversary
@NathanUC I think around 12PM (in your time zone) you should see something, PS Plus games also refresh around that time every month.
Re: PS5 Home Screen Customisable with PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4 Themes for the 30th Anniversary
@GoatFace04 I also think locking certain stuff behind amiibos is also kind of scummy as well, there's only so many of each being made, and I don't know if the codes are even reusable, right?
Re: PlayStation Thanks the Fans with Emotional 30th Anniversary Montage
Guess we'll see what the 3rd has in store tomorrow, if anything.
Re: PS5 Home Screen Customisable with PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4 Themes for the 30th Anniversary
Agree with everyone else here, this should not be a limited time thing for people to have different use of these themes, and also the use of custom sounds (or even different UI music) on the home screen.
Unless they add it in the next update, surely they will, it's otherwise a waste of development time to implement this in just only for a few days or few weeks at most...
Re: Concord Cost Sony Over $200 Million, And Didn't Make a Single Cent
@MrMagic my bad, still, would've been great to see that pitch and IP go forward with a new installment.
Re: Concord Cost Sony Over $200 Million, And Didn't Make a Single Cent
Still can't fathom how they axed Twisted Metal and Factions, yet going all in for this game? I don't know whether to laugh or be sad about it.
And could've made many, many more smaller games with that budget alone!
Re: After a Tough Few Months, Sony Says It'll Keep Making PS5 Live Service Games
@Americansamurai1 @nessisonett we definitely need Shuhei back
Re: Sony Shuts PS Studio Neon Koi without Ever Releasing a Game
Six studios have closed under him. Not the best look while also chasing trends.
Re: After a Tough Few Months, Sony Says It'll Keep Making PS5 Live Service Games
Crazy how he's still there, and no one is questioning this problem. Not to mention still dealing with the other live-service projects and the mess that is current Bungie.
Re: Steins;Gate Is Getting a Reboot for Unannounced Consoles, and the Art Is Divine
Kinda hated it when they changed the art style from the original to 0, and still used the sprites from the original, it really threw me off.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
This is going to be Sony Rewards all over again at this point.
Used to be good, but they restricted the points to only some purchases with some products. Remember when you could get points for trophies? Although some people abused it too much, to be fair.
Re: Dino Crisis Fans Hoodwinked as Capcom's PS1 Classic Requires Premium, Lacks Trophies
@Judal27 Same with Resident Evil: Director's Cut on PS3. You can't get it for free on PS5 if you own it on PS3/Vita, (to my knowledge, might be wrong) it's also only through Premium as well.
Capcom is being weird about this. At least Sony, Namco and some others can at least let you buy the games separately through the store (or honor past purchases through legacy storefronts).
Re: 14 More Games Join PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Hopefully Siren has a platinum included this time.
Re: Atlus Fans Don't Think Xbox's Marketing Is Doing Metaphor: ReFantazio Justice
@wiiware One of the reasons I kept my 360 is because of Lost Odyssey.
Re: Explore Hell Is Us PS5 in Extensive Developer-Led Gameplay Trailer
Is PSN down for anyone else right now? Can't access most of anything.
Re: Cult PS3 Classic El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron Will Make a Pilgrimage to PS5
Nice. Never got it for PS3, so this is welcome.
Re: Palworld Announced for PS5, and It's Out Today
@Nowings I think it's because Sony (SonyMusic, Aniplex) themselves are in talks of providing Pocketpair a multimedia deal (merchandise, anime, etc).
Re: Rumour: Concord Cost $400 Million, Sony Believed It Was the 'Future of PlayStation'
To think we could've gotten Twisted Metal and Factions 2 over this. Not to mention funding if studios like London and Pixelopus weren't shut down.
Re: The Novelty of PlayStation's PC Ports Does Appear to Be Dampening
@Gunnerzaurus Agree. There is a space for smaller games and experiences, otherwise we'll end up back here again! Astro proved that.
Re: The Novelty of PlayStation's PC Ports Does Appear to Be Dampening
@Gunnerzaurus Well I think they would either have to look at other sources of revenue (live service, micro transactions, paid DLC, ads on the home screen, remasters, mobile games) to keep funding these huge projects, or change their approach to only making smaller games with sometimes a release of said bigger title, which studios don't have the manpower to do.
We're also seeing them just give out licenses of dormant IPs to other companies who also want a multiplatform release by getting a cut from it (Freedom Wars with Bandai, WipeOut with Sega if that ends up being true).
This strategy of "Only on PlayStation" would not be sustainable long term now with how much of these AAA games are being sold, and how much it cost being developed (100+ million dollars).
Re: Dev Behind PS5, PC Flop Concord Could Close as Director Steps Down
@-Sigma- Let's not forget that this is from the same man who greenlit multiple Horizon spin-offs, and a remaster of the first game.
Re: Rumour: Days Gone PS5 Remaster Speculation Starts to Spread
I'm sorry, but this just sounds so extremely unnecessary. Same with any game made past 2018. It looks good enough, and plays fine, doesn't need a remastering.
Re: Jaw-Dropping 30th Anniversary PS5 Pro Console and Accessories Will Bankrupt You
So I guess the launch model wont be getting these. Shame.
Re: Stone-Cold PS Vita Classic Returns in Freedom Wars Remastered PS5, PS4
@PuppetMaster I still find it so weird that he said that. And then not long after Astro Bot dropped with those VIP bots, that pretty much made his point redundant.
I think he was trying to say that they don't have much "new" IP (not just PlayStation, but Sony as a whole).
But they have more IP then Xbox and Nintendo combined, I believe, so why not use stuff you already have? (For example, this game!)
Re: Recently Revealed Dead By Daylight Spin-Off Project T Already Cancelled
Unrelated, but I did not expect Freedom Wars, of all games from the PS Vita, to get announced a remaster today.
This was unexpected.
Re: Don't Sleep on PS2 Secret Gem Sky Gunner, Coming to PS5, PS4 Next Week
@Weez If IGN doesn't want to review the game, then they aren't either, since they are partnered with them.
Try and piece together why that is lol
Re: Annapurna Interactive Exodus Sees Entire Staff Resign
That is insane... I really enjoyed Stray through Extra.
I just saw this morning that Xbox also just laid off 650 employees.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Astro Bot Barely Registers at Retail, PS5 Numbers Plummet After Price Hike
Hopefully this game will have a longer lifespan with sales over time, especially Christmas or potentially even a console bundle later on.
The fact that the game isn't on a portable device, weak currency, and only on a further price hiked home console also doesn't help in that market.
Re: This May Be the Most Pointless Boxed PS5 Game Ever
No, Concord is now the most pointless boxed PS5 game ever.
Re: Lack of Competition from Xbox Partly Why PS5 Pro Is $700, Says Analyst
Definitely need competition, it'll only get worse otherwise.Xbox has great games as well, used to own a 360/Kinect bundle, used to play Gears and Halo, JSRF, came bundled with Peggle 2. Still have it for Lost Odyssey and other games.
Re: Despite Price Point, Analyst Firm Expects PS5 Pro to Sell Like PS4 Pro
I'll be quite shocked if it sells past 10+ million.
Re: 'It Felt Like Putting New Glasses On,' Claims First PS5 Pro Hands On
It isn't that extreme of a difference...
Re: MGS: Master Collection Vol. 2 Is in the Works, But Games Not Decided Yet
@dreadpirateflappy I feel anything with PlatinumGames is pretty good most of the time (Babylon's Fall is the extremely rare exception).
I really want MadWorld ported to PS someday.
Re: PS5 Pro Can Run PS4 Games Better Via Improved Backwards Compatibility
Would've liked to see them mention a handheld in development or something.
Re: All PS5 Pro Compatible Games
Most developers haven't even taken advantage of the base PS5.
Re: PS5 Pro Announced, Costs $700 and Out in November
Getting PS3 price reveal flashbacks with this one...
Re: PS5 Pro Showcase Set for Tomorrow, Hosted by Mark Cerny
@UltimateOtaku91 That would be crazy if they announced plans for one in development (I know there's rumours, but any direct confirmation from Sony would be great).
Re: Sony: It's Massively Important PS Studios Develops Games in Various Genres
@UltimateOtaku91 Definitely agree there. They've done that in the past, someone can easily bring back those kinds of games, smallish budget, and let other AAA studios still work on their own projects.