Sony's New PS5, PSVR2 Game May Be the Most Important It Releases This Year

Cool concept (thought provoking maybe the better description), and if it's truly not an lecture, then more power to them.

First DLC character will be Greta Thunberg.

@Czar_Khastik lmao yup can't wait to play her use her screaming attack

Some will still deny the game exists, even if you review it.

@Czar_Khastik

It's a duopack that DLC. She and her sister.

Finally, a game Al Gore would approve of!

But in all seriousness, it's crazy how little they've invested in the VR2 since launch even with price drop and PC support, you'd think it would be doing great. Might as well be another PS Vita situation at this point.

If any of you PSVR2 users also have access to PCVR, I advice you try Google Earth VR. Flying around the earth, especially where you live, is such an awesome experience. And it's free.

Why changes from only 1901? That’s not really scientifically significant as a dataset, nor does it give humanity the vital perspective we instinctively lack. Disappointing. Should have gone back at least 20,000 years to the LGM, if not the beginning (with less reliable estimations, obviously, but accurate in broad strokes).

Is there a drone minigame where you can watch the diggers laying waste to the Amazon rainforest for the giant road that they're building for the next big summit?
I don't deny climate change but I sure do deny the need for 20,000 entities to gather in the same place to reheat the same message.

Trophies? No trophies, no play!

@Unsilenceable Yes but recent cycles of warming and cooling have been massively quicker, that's what's causing the worry

Any Dinosaurs in it?

@Gremio108
That’s a political and logistical worry indeed. Although not a geological worry by any means. The scaremongering about the latter instead of the educating about the former is what will cause many an argument unfortunately.

@thefourfoldroot1 Geology is the study of the planet Earth, so I'd argue it's a geological issue. Those other factors do come into it though, certainly. Although that's probably diverting the conversation down a different route.

The planet is going through its warming/cooling cycle quicker than usual and it's always worth pointing that out, because there's always people saying "oh well the planet always changes". Well yeah, but not this quick. Hence all the research, hand wringing etc.

@get2sammyb boo! In all seriousness, this is a smart idea. Games can be educational after all.

@Gremio108
It’s a geological issue (well, in general usage of that word) but not a geological worry. It’s a human worry. The earth is fine, humanity may well endure famines, forced mass migration, and go to war and die in great numbers. So let’s focus on that and not “end of the Earth” rubbish arguments.

@thefourfoldroot1 I get what you're saying. I'm not saying it's the end of the earth as a functioning planet.

I just think whenever I see someone say "the planet has always gone through cycles of heating up and cooling down", I think there's a responsibility to point out that it's happening quicker and that's why so many people talk about climate change. A lot of younger people probably visit this site, and the more impressionable among them might be fooled by that comment into thinking it's business as usual for the planet.

@12AngryCats Nothing on Exophase

@Brundleflies21 There is such a thing as fact. Climate change is scientific fact.

@Gremio108
“Business as usual” is a temporal statement that takes place on human, not geological, timescales, which brings me back to my original statement that I wish this experience used data going further back than 1901. Still, yes, I understand your reluctance to state truths from which misleading inferences may be made. I just wish everybody was more honest about what are the real problems, both with global warming and what will happen as a result of trying to slow it.

@nessisonett All science is falsifiable. Challenging orthodoxy is how pioneers further their respective fields of expertise.

@get2sammyb I don’t mean this as moderation discussion as I was expecting my joke to be removed anyway. I fully agree. But I feel like the joke about Greta screaming is equally if not more unconstructive. 🤷‍♀️
EDIT: and counterintuitive to the point of the game and article.

@Gremio108 In terms of what, since records began? About a hundred years ago? The earth is billions of years old. It really makes me laugh people think we can affect the planet lol. The planet does whatever it wants when it wants.

@Brundleflies21 The Earth is round. This is fact. Some facts are fact. Climate change is fact.

Looks quite nice actually.
On a different topic (maybe related?), are there PSVR2 games about visiting museums from all over the world?
Or maybe important locations like Parthenon, Pyramids and stuff?
Something free roaming but done respectfully with nice visuals to compensate being at home?

@DaveTheRave What else would you put it down to?

Um .... yeah .... sounds like a real CORKER!!!

@Brundleflies21 Ranting on twitter in a red hat isn't challenging anything. The eternal contrarian shtick is nonsense and ever more dangerous.

@Gremio108 what caused climate change before humans were driving diesels? I don’t know maybe volcanos erupting? Cows farting?

@nessisonett climate change is also billions of years old lol

@Lowdefal how can snyone alive today prove that’s true how can snyone today know what climate change was like billions of years ago

@DaveTheRave Sorry no I meant the accelerated warming in the last 100 years or so. It's always happened in the past, but it's been quicker recently.

You could be onto something with the farting cows lol

It's a very informative app but there's absolutely zero 'gaming' involved.

This seems like a future generations problem, good luck with that 🤣

I'm going to say it, about time!

VR can be used for many applications, many for travel, or simulating things or whatever.

But like dual screen phones (Samsung, Microsoft, etc.) no one wants to put the effort into them to utilise their potential so they do the bare minimum or none at all, don't have the ideas which to me is even more infuriating, because it's too niche/expensive or devs are too busy or too lazy or not thinking enough to come up with an idea.

@SirRealDeal As if apps haven't elevated a piece of tech? Or given it purpose?

VR can be anything it doesn't have to be gaming. It doesn't have to be a quiz game to be of worth. I have thought about travel or simulating things, even AR already does this for businesses that do have it such as HoloLens did.

Besides if it was a quiz or minigames or a strategy game and not some epic movie inspiration action game, people would write it off anyway as "not gameplay" or not exciting enough. XD

Or looked at tech and gone oh that's cool when game consoles do it people wake up, when tech does it or even old gaming devices unless it's in front of them or like others in the past 2 years kind of time span, most people wouldn't even know or care. Compared to those that do research in failed, successful or any other side projects companies have done for gaming most people don't even care about or know about yet we have this thing called the INTERNET. That no one seems to use. XD

It's why Sony had to keep remarketing remote play 4 times for different generations of audiences to notice or they still saw potential in it. XD Not just tech getting better.

I have already had ideas for many things in tech/gaming, everyone else wants their TV remote controllers (aka I mean their standard first thing they experienced experience) and their generic games, so like anyone actually cares about gaming potential really.

@get2sammyb As a meteorology buff I'm definitely interested. Does this also work without VR?

@nessisonett The evidence for the ice age shows that too. The evidence points to it fluctuating for large parts of the earth's existence. The evidence points to dark matter and quantum uncertainty. These are generally accepted and of that one does not debate. Science is still falsifiable though. It is built on that very foundation.
What also could said to be factual is that insinuating people on here are dumb because they are using their freedom as an individual to question something doesn't exactly help anything other than hinting at intellectual aloofness.

@EVIL-C There was a counter movement anongst the string theory community when many realised that it was being taken to be gospel, despite being nearly forever untestable.
The point isn't that there climate change is not evident. My point is you can't just lump everyone is the same bracket because they don't toe party line. It's far more convoluted that merely saying 'I'm right you're wrong'

@Gremio108 your point about the speed of change is false. There are many times in the earth's past where the climate changed just as fast as it is now. Google mini ice age for example which occurred in the early 14th century. Also the younger dryas around 12000 years ago.

Also just taking data from 1901 is very telling. Basically avoiding using a large enough data set to be accurate. That time frame is the blink of an eye geologically speaking.

@Brundleflies21 Contrarianism is literally killing children. We practically eradicated horrible diseases like polio and measles in the western world through vaccination and have been making strides to eradicate it in the developing world too. For that to be thrown into the gutter first by a widely discredited paper by a rogue scientist tying vaccines to autism, and now by a wave of anti-intellectualism overseen by a literal man with brain worms, it’s not just dumb, it’s dangerous. People will die that would have lived. Climate change is the same, there’s a timer for an awful lot of species that is running out fast and the longer idiots spread falsehoods, the sooner entire populations of animals are gone forever, entirely due to human contrarianism. It is not helpful to be wilfully ignorant. It is not helpful to question facts with heaps of evidence. Comparing this to string theory is unhinged given that was a THEORY and this is based on years and years of painstaking scientific research. You’re just making yourself look like you’re willing to go to bat for people who would rather see us burn than admit that they don’t understand what the experts do. My community was almost wiped out by HIV and the falsehoods spread by these people made it so, so much worse before the miracle of science resulted in HIV being completely dormant, not just prevention of infection but actually making carriers safe. That rollout would not be possible with this same wave of disinformation. More people would be dead. Think about the consequences before you leap to the defence of dangerous people.

@Gremio108 my point is we could all live in windmills drinking water from the fresh stream and never eating meat and the earths climate will still change regardless. All it would take to wipe us out is Yellowstone exploding. End of humanity. What’s the point in trying to be green. You only live once so make the most of it

@nessisonett I have my own life long illness that for years had people like myself thrown into the asylum or burned for speaking with the unholy one so no, I dont deny any of the wonderful, life changing, pioneering work that has been laid down by people willing to want to know how systems work or better people's lives. It's made life for myself and fellow sufferers better. You're completely missing my point and assuming I'm some contrarian who thrives on disrupting conventions. Epilepsy isn't just people frothing at the mouth or just grand mal vs petit mal. It's as complex as smells, deja vu, derealisation, hundreds of two second absences etc. At the time however, it was just that. It took people willing to delve deeper to understand. Ergo challenge popular expert opinion. By falsifiable I am not implying that advancement is redundant. I'm pointing to theories not being set in stone once discovered. It can and hopefully will be expanded upon.
I get the point that many a contrarian is contrary for no point other than to annoy but not everyone can be lumped into that same bracket and I find that line of thinking unfair.
I'm also not comparing this to string theory in the slightest. It was an example to show that people are willing to challenge the accepted norm. Not to dismantle it but to aid progress.

Overall support for vr2 has been crap same as with the 1, they just see the people who buy it as mugs who will jump on board and buy it regardless, well, not any more, I’m done,

@Medic_alert yes I actually have children and I’ll tell them the same thing. Don’t worry about it

@KeAfan7 Yes, it works without VR.

@DaveTheRave Okay yeah, but I guess the counter is what if Yellowstone doesn't throw a wobbly? Cos that's not something we can control, whereas man's impact on the climate is.

I agree with you in that we shouldn't worry about what we can't control, but we can still have a crack at the things we can.

@Blaze215 Right, but the Little Ice Age (which is a misnomer because there wasn't any new ice knocking about) wasn't caused by man, and it was only relatively localised, affecting just the northern hemisphere. And it only lasted for the blink of an eye in comparison to the proper, genuine ice ages the earth has seen.

What the boffins are saying is that the change in temperature we've seen in the last 200 years or so is comparable with actual global changes occuring over massive spans of time, like tens of thousands of years. And there's more co2 in the atmosphere that at any point in the last million years. That's some bad s***

@Czar_Khastik how dare you!

@Medic_alert tell that to china

@Gremio108 Hmm there actually was new ice knocking about. The ice caps grew significantly and famously even Londons river Thames froze for years. Yes it didnt last as long as normal ice ages, you could say it changed pretty quickly which is my point. Yes it wasn't caused by man. But you're certain that the climate change this time is caused by man? I have no doubt we have some affect on the climate but if you look into CO2 levels over the years (not just since 1901) you will see it was much higher many times in the past. Our contribution to climate change is miniscule in my opinion and from the evidence I have seen

Fact: the climate is changing.
Also fact: it's been changing since the dawn of Earth.

What smart people disagree about is the extent of mankind's contribution. Some believe it is insignificant, whereas others believe it is mostly man made. The truth is somewhere in the middle, as always.

Well, if in doubt, shouldn't we tackle the problem from the more conservative side (not politically)? That is, if there's any chance we're destroying the planet, shouldn't we be doing everything in our power to avoid this potential catastrophe?

Sure. What people in this side of the argument fail to understand is that this point has been abused to death by those in power to justify all manners of tyrannic measures. In turn, that's been causing the erosion of that originally fair point.

@Blaze215 Yeah I'm certain from what I've read. Like I say, I'm not just talking about since 1901. There's a whole host of verified and accredited scientific papers here:

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/95JD03410

Some of them are heavy going, I'm not going to lie, and I don't pretend to be an expert. But I've worked in and around this stuff from time to time, as part of the work my company does. There's an orgy of evidence here and it's the most depressing orgy I've ever seen

EDIT: I should say, open the 'references' tab in that link. Those are what I'm referring to, alongside the primary study

@Medic_alert I don’t care about things I can’t control why should I

@Medic_alert it’s a farce mate. A lot of people are making a lot of money out of this rubbish. Ignore them and they’re screeching and they will go away eventually.

@Medic_alert stats dont lie mate

@Medic_alert tbf the naysayers are always civil it’s the believers that lose their minds over stuff like this and start ruining priceless artworks and blocking off roads. I’d have them jailed until they grow up and apologised lol