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@ChrisDeku I’ll take the word of reporters over a random person on the internet thanks, and no one with any intelligence, apart from most of the media. Pretty sure most of them are smarter than you. And again you’ve not proved anything. And you also cannot prove the impact Helldivers 2 has had over Concords loss on live service games.

@ChrisDeku It is the widely reported figure, http://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/09/21/new-report-says-sonys-concord-cost-400-million-to-make/

You've not proven a thing, nothing, nadda, your word is NOT a valid argument against reporters with inside information. A 400 million loss is still a 400 million loss. Stop simping for a corporation.

@ChrisDeku God as I dared to mention the topic we shall not discuss. I’ll repeat. A 400 million dollar loss is NOT an irrelevance. No company would ever think like that, to have that 400 million they need to make 1.2 billion dollars in sales!

You now currently Microsoft are the ones making the single player games I want to play.. it’s only the fact they’ll probably come to PlayStation why I haven’t sold my PS5 for a Series X again yet. Indiana jones is brilliant and clearly shows you don’t need to do yet another third person over the shoulder game to make a great action adventure story.

@CielloArc You do know multi hundred million dollar losses are reported to investors at financial meetings right? It will be in the departmental financial reports.

@ChrisDeku As I said, serious mental gymnastics. Go and tell that to Sony's large share holders, I'm sure they'll see your opinion and how a total 400 million dollar loss, literally money thrown down the drain, isn't really that bad after all.........

The reality is they'll strip you alive, you'll be sacked and your reputation ruined in the industry.

@IOI It's simply fascinating the mental gymnastics someone must do to conclude a 400 million dollar total loss was actually a highly profitable game?

It's like MS screws up and Sony says hold my beer.. they'll just waste millions of dollars again and again. Nobody wants them.

@CallMeDuraSouka That is something the PlayStation community should have done electively years ago, but they refuse to and as such are people who are utterly incapable of accepting differing opinions to theirs, like those who say TLOU2 was rubbish, no they just call those people bigots 🙄

I agree with everything Feng Ji said to be honest, to me 'Game Of The Year' award means absolutely nothing, because of the way it's selected.

@Lavishturtle Yeap, Uncharted had perfect women, not overly sexy or overly plain. But then Neil didn’t have full control of that one. ND has lost its spark for me, I’m cautious about the game but won’t be surprised if it’s generic.

Product placement puts it off to a bad start. And I wonder how the story will play with Neil having so much power and a LOT of talent now having left the studio.

Bet it’ll be the usual third person action game from them. And it’ll be remastered at least five times!

I am…. cautious about this game. At this stage I’d be excited to see a new handheld from Sony with physical media, but I know any handheld they make will be digital only now.

This looks good. One to look out for.

So people want to pay the exact same price as the Steam Deck... for something that will be really locked down.

I think Sony will struggle against the Steam Deck and other PC handhelds and that's not including the Switch 2! Sony is incapable of having two teams with two devices, it proved that with the Vita! A system with so much potential relegated to a PS4 remote control. And they can't exactly done wonders with PS VR either.. another capable device left in the cold, stupidly priced too though.

It'll flop. It won't have the support needed to fight against the Switch 2 or 3, Steam Deck 2 or 3, Lenovo Asus and other make handhelds. And Microsoft as they are releasing their own handheld too.

I would have zero interest in this. None. It would be a total waste of time. I have my OG PSP still and it still works, it was a fantastic device because Sony and devs supported it. Then we got the Vita, and it lasted what 2 years before Sony ditched its support and turned it into a PS4 remote control…

It became obvious then that Sony do NOT have the ability or staff to maintain different dedicated devices, the Portal succeeds because it IS a remote control, and to Sonys shock no doubt is successful.

But even Nintendo discovered it couldn’t handle a home console and handheld console at the same time, hence ditching the formula and combining them into two and merging all their teams together.

Nintendo dominates the handheld the space, then we have the new PC handheld players in town, and let’s be honest Valve is a hell of a lot more consumer focussed then Nintendo or Sony are, but they’ve launched a device that’s thinking outside the box and has gained huge community support and has sold in very good numbers as a result and they are committed to compete in the handheld market going forward.

All Sony will be doing is releasing a handheld that most likely runs PS5 or 6 games natively with poorer graphics, what Microsoft has done with Series S, and as a result it’ll hold back game development too, as Microsoft has done.

It just sounds like a boring edition to Sonys lineup that will sell poorly and no doubt be priced massively for what it offers.
I think Sony and Microsoft will be in for a shock and a hard battle if they launch new devices into the handheld games market. And that’s ignoring the fact any phone or tablet can remotely play or cloud play their games anyway.

I have a Steam Deck OLED, it isn’t perfect, but it’s more than enough to keep me away from a Sony handheld. The only handheld I’d be interested in is a Switch 2, and if Sony charges £600 or more for the standard PS6 it might be my ONLY console too if it gets the third party support…

Nothing there for me, still expensive too at the top of the list.

@Northern_munkey True I'm probably being too grumpy about it. I just didn't like the demo, meh maybe I'll give it another go when it's in PSN Plus.

@Northern_munkey Forgive me for wanting more then jiggling **** and ass to sell a £60 game to me, decent game play mechanics would be which this game lacks IMO.

This is a really cool update. 200 to access Sonys library, not bad at all. Certainly makes it a lot more useful.

How pathetic, they firstly create a character model like that with jiggle physics for no real reason, then make it do that when no doubt young people will go looking. It’s p**** teasing in game.
Plenty of sites they can look at real naked women but look up a characters skirt in game oh no that’s a big no no. Sonys bat ***** crazy censorship in full effect.

Still some seam to enjoy the game, I tried the demo and found it stupid, and a curved women character with jiggle physics and giant attributes just because. Dear oh dear too old for that rubbish.

Doesn’t look like any games I’d be interested in? I’d have to take a closer look.

@Skeletor85 Well when it runs better on the OG PS5 then the pro according to DF, then what do you expect? If Sony didn’t release the Pro the game would not need to be patched to work with Sony’s proprietary upscaling system. It is up,to devs to release the patch though I’ll give you that.

I’m thinking unless Sony can really nail PSSR in its development kits, and make it work better for game conversions to its platform, they may find third party games consistently perfuming worst in some cases then on the base PS5 with FSR as FSR is far more widely used.

But PSSR is really in development on the PS5 Pro in preparation for PS6, lots of work ahead for Sony.

I’ve been going back and forth, I have a nice Sony 55” 4K OLED TV but it doesn’t have VRR or 120hz in 4K, just in 1080P, it doesn’t 60FPS at 4K.
Anyway I was led off with how much reliance devs put into VRR this gen, they seemed to be replying in TV tech to fix their issues, or reduce the time to optimise games. Plus for me I’d need a disk drive and stand so £830 all in. That ain’t cheap. I think I’ll wait to see what the Switch 2 is like first. I can always wait for PS6.
I don’t want to buy a new TV either, but I see a lot of OLED monitors have dropped in price for Black Friday hmmm… I would rather get me one of those to be honest. I got a new MacBook Pro this year and it would go well with that.

They are literally making any Xbox hardware more pointless by the day. I'm looking forward to Gears Of War on my PS5.

@The_Wailing_Doom Oh yes dreadful rubbish story. Stabbed part 1 in the back a goodun.

@Atreus97 Playing that on my OG PS5 seeing how good it looks it's a game I'd like to see on a Pro with my own eyes, but without soending £700 lol.

Does it do anything for the God awful story? At least that 'special' scene will be in glorious enhanced ray traced 4K 60 lol...

Hmm not sure how I feel about him these days. He was great in Home Alone, but his drug addiction wrecked him IMO. He's a bit cocky too. Will see how he performs in the show as his actings alright, well used to be. Just he himself isn't.

I've watched loads of reviews and opinions seem so split on it, I think mainly due to the cost. Its CPU is the same, Sony will allow a 10% boost but you lose some GPU power then.
All I want is games in 4K upscale, good graphics and a stable 60fps, but ray tracing would be nice and it seems it can't do that? It still runs at 30fps with advanced ray tracing?? It's a bit confusing.

Can anyone confirm, what sort of ray tracing do you get with the upscaled 4K and 60FPS? None or something?

@symmetrian Did I say that? No, if you had an ounce of a clue you'd realise how I'm right. The OG PS5 and Series X have tons of performance left on the table, because devs don't optimise their games. Instead they rely on VRR to uplift them. The same will be true you this new Pro model however due to its much more powerful hardware, it'll give a boost to games. Devs will 'enhance' games but not push the console hardware.

I LOVED the film! It was great fun and instantly bought it when it was in digital. No regrets, watched it about three or four times now.

@LifeGirl Its devs as much as Sony, these days they've grown to become lazy and rely too much on power and VRR to properly optimise their games. Sadly. So if you want best graphics and performance on PS, the devs won't help you, you'll need a Pro.

'PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution' is the key feature, it is Sony's DLSS or FSR. And in the case of DLSS especially, AI up scaling has been proven to be massively effective at boosting graphics whilst not requiring a building with a supercomputer in it. It seems to be the solution to the problem as consumer GPU's have a limit of power and thermals and space, and price although Nvidia cards get silly.

I may have to take a look at the review vids of the new Pro.

Stats seem rather pointless to me? You have to buy it on PS5, you can play it on Game Pass on Xbox, so less people will buy it on Xbox?

I wonder how much of a golden handshake Ryan got on his way out after creating a 300 million plus total loss?

@nomither6 Oh yes, I loved the last one on PS4 wasn’t it? Played it at least 3 times and the DLC. Yeap Sony of old (under different management and leadership it has to be said) was FAR better IMO, I think the PS4 may be the last great gen from them. I don’t care much for Spiderman (partly due to the fact it will not copy my saved progress from my PS4 to PS5 since I updated to the enhanced PS5 version), find Horizon incredibly dull and tedious. The only game I’ve been enjoying from them is Ragnarok. TLOU 1 was a masterpiece but part 2 was a joke IMO and they ruined it. And I haven’t touched a live service game from them. It seems people are still sticking to a handful of titles on the console, like COD, Gran Turismo, Fortnite etc more than ever.

I have to say, at this moment in time my PS5 has been collecting dust, although I might play TLOU one again on it. I am far more excited for the new Switch 2 and I’ve been hooked on my Steam Deck playing older games. For the first time I finished Bioshock 1 and 2 on it. Great games. Maybe I’ll get Judas on PS5 when it’s out? But others think the PS5 is the best gen yet so it’s all personal opinions. But with such a dry exodus of new or sequel games from Sony, just endless pointless remakes, I do not see myself currently getting a PS6.

I’ve never liked Horizon, to me it tried to have a story but fell short and I don’t really enjoy the game. Killzone was alright though, good action if the story was a bit flat.
Sony doesn’t have a single FPS exclusive and hasn’t for years has it? Relying heavily on COD for its FPS action games. And judging by this review it has no interest in them either.

It’s move to only third person over the shoulder games has made it a bit boring. SOCOM, Killzone, Resistance Retribution were great action games that softened the over the shoulder story games. And no new Unchartered either.

I like this new option, it makes it a bit easier to use, very fast and slick. Sony have managed to make a very nice system interface I think. Runs so fast too.

@IamJT Unless PS6 costs more.......

@ButterySmooth30FPS That would be Nintendo then in sales numbers terms.

Most likely it's the stupid idea of forcing games to run on strong hardware 'Series X' and weak hardware the Series S which limits what they can do.

@tpepper1985 Wrong on Game Pass, devs have spoken about that and say the money they are paid from that covers their R&D costs and development costs etc. They then make profit from the sales.

@roe It DOES matter, because the PS6 will by design be more powerful then the PS5 Pro, so if everyone jumps on the PS5 Pro Sony will think fantastic, we'll charge 700 for the PS6 too...

@Major_Player Hmm the number of Switches sold now would suggest otherwise...

@Max_the_German Couldn't agree more with that comment! Roll on Switch 2.

Ok just checked and it just seems to be official news snippets. Not too bad AS LONG as it stays like that, BUT what I do NOT agree with is it looks like if you have a disk game and go over its icon, Sony will put nice ad for you to purchase the exact same game digitally on the screen for you... they can f*** right off with that idea!!

I'll see how this goes but I may end up selling my PS5. I sold my Series X because after an update they forced endless rows of ads on you of Game Pass games, friends playing list, media apps, films etc all
Forced and unremovable.

This seems to be going down a similar path. Sorry but I do NOT do ads on a premium priced device with expensive games. If they want to do that they can damn well lower the console and games prices!