Jireland92

So it’s like VR then? Not the future people claimed it to be, but will likely still have a niche in the market.

This whole deal has been a clown show. Was hoping it was going to end soon but guess not.

I knew my country would screw everything up.

It’s kind of dumb it isn’t available to everyone right away.

@Impossibilium the hell’d you mention me for? I was just making a jab at the uselessness of the boycott. I didn’t even mention you at all.

The boycott really did wonders for them huh.

You enjoyed Final Fantasy XIII?

And people got mad at me for daring to suggest that marketing played a huge part in selling games.

@bkeswick past experiences can give a general idea of the quality you might expect with a game. There’s a reason why games are sometimes marketed with the phrase “from the maker of (insert game title here)”. People will read that, remember a past experience with it and pick it up if they remember it fondly.

Putting out quality products helps people come back. However, it’s not a guarantee your future products will sell better.

Sony is pretty consistent when it comes to putting out quality games, but that doesn’t mean all their games sell equally. While games like The Last of Us, Spider-Man and God of War sell big numbers, games like Gravity Rush, Sackboy and Tearaway sell moderately well at best or poorly at worst.

You want to know what the first group has that the second doesn’t? Massive advertising budgets. They’re marketed to hell and back to get the games into as many peoples faces as possible. After all, how can people buy a game if they don’t know it exists.

@bkeswick To clarify, what I meant was that the quality of a game cannot be a factor when selling a game to a customer because the customer has no means of knowing that until they play it for themselves. The only thing they have to go off of are adverts or gameplay presentations which aren’t always indicative of the final product. Well, those and demo’s, but they’re becoming increasingly rare.

@bkeswick in an ideal world yes, but we don’t live in an ideal world. How many crappy products have you or other people bought simply because it was advertised well? I know I’ve bought my fair share.

Don’t get me wrong, having a good product helps you build a strong fan base and boosts confidence in the brand, but when it comes to making a sale, marketing is king.

@4kgk2 no, because how can a customer know it’s a great exclusive if they haven’t played it yet? The answer is they don’t. The only way you can get them to buy it is to market the game to them in an effective way. Almost all major video game success stories are down to how well they were marketed. The exclusives being good certainly helps build confidence in the brand but it’s not what puts units in people’s homes. Good marketing does.

@Doublecell it really isn’t. Any kind of dominance is bad.

@LordBakemono yes really. If a game being good quality was all it needed to sell well then every well reviewed game would sell millions of copies. But as we know that isn’t the case. In fact there are examples of the opposite happening, bad games selling really well.

And the reason for that was due to being marketed well. Marketing is the lifeblood for a video games success, and a lot of why Sony is dominating right now is due to how effective they are when it comes to advertising their product. Why do you think companies sign exclusivity deals with them? Because they want access to their marketing power.

@4kgk2 no Sony dominates due to having a more effective marketing strategy. The quality of the game is not what sells it, it’s how you advertise it.

And as @northofthewall put it, Sony dominating leads to them becoming cocky and arrogant, which leads to disaster as the PS3 showed. So it doesn’t matter how you spin it, one company dominating the industry is not good or healthy for that industry.

@TheTony316 I agree but that still doesn’t make Sony dominating a good thing.

@4kgk2 Do you know what a Monopoly is? That’s what you get when one company dominates an entire industry. Not to mention the lack of competition leads to stagnation in output.

@4kgk2 that doesn’t answer my question. How is one company dominating an entire industry good for the industry?

@4kgk2 how is one company dominating good for the industry?

This whole farce has made everyone involved look like complete idiots. Don’t get me wrong it was entertaining at first, but now it’s just pathetic.

@STOBO why? That’s horribly unfair to indie developers.

This whole thing is hysterical to me. Imagine thinking the Japanese gaming market matters in the slightest in 2023.

The Game Gear games are just a bonus anyway. This isn’t something to get mad over.

I’ll never understand Capcom. They took Resident Evil 4, a game that was already perfect the way it was and made it better, but Resident Evil 3, a game which could have used a remake to improve on certain elements, that one they screw up.

sigh here we go again. Expecting Pro models because everyone forgot why the Pro models from last generation existed to begin with.

You know they made other things right. You don’t need to put The Last of Us in the headline.

Yeah, one of the issues of adapting an already cinematic game like The Last of Us is that the story has already been perfectly told in the best way possible. Why would I watch an inferior version of the story when it offers nothing I couldn’t have gotten from the game. I said it before and I’ll say it again, this show had no reason to exist.

Why? The pacing in the game was bad enough, you want to make it worse.

@themightyant I don’t think it can. These changes might help it gain new fans, but it’ll also alienate a lot of the old ones. And as I said it’s largely been playing catch-up to other popular RPG’s and Japanese action games. You can’t become pack leader if you’re playing catch-up.

@themightyant Final Fantasy stopped being the driving force behind RPG’s years ago. It’s honestly just playing catch-up to other RPG’s Amat this point. I would argue that Persona has had a larger impact on the JRPG scene than Final Fantasy has in the last 10 years or so.

I don’t see how he can think of it as discriminatory. It’s just a descriptive term for RPG’s made in Japan.

I always felt the Olympics should have an E-Sports division. Glad to see that finally happening.

And so the dance begins anew. We all get excited for a new Final Fantasy only for it to be disappointing when it actually comes out.

@neonpizza I didn’t say it was a gimmick, I said that’s how some consumers view it.

@Trousersnake I suppose time will tell. The real test isn’t the technology though it’s how consumers react to it. The NES could also be considered gaming in its infancy and that was a huge success back in the 80’s.

VR is impressive tech but I think a lot of consumers still view it as a gimmick and most headset’s are so out of most peoples price range that they can’t give it a shot.

I’ve seen so many VR headsets released in the past 10 years and I have to ask, is this ever going to catch on? I’ve heard people say this is the next evolution of gaming yet it’s never really become mainstream. Will it ever, or is it forever doomed to be a niche interest for dedicated hobbyists?

Exactly what I was expecting. The dialogue in the trailers was godawful.

And my interest is gone.

Who would have thought a game that was overly cinematic would have a great screen adaptation

Hard to believe it’s actually coming out

@nessisonett caught up in what? He was offered a role and he took it. That’s it.

I’ve got one thing to say to the people who pre order this, have fun it looks like a good time.

If it copied the game line for line this only strengthens my initial complaint, this has no reason to exist. Why wouldn’t I just play the videogame at that point.

@4kgk2 im not white knighting for anything. Sheesh, what in the world was that for.

@4kgk2 both consoles are doing good though. I don’t really care about console Wars shenanigans, that was always between the companies and not the players.

I’m all for accessibility in gaming, but what is this design?

It better be. Because so far the “next generation” has felt more like a minor upgrade than a major leap forward. And given what’s coming on the horizon I don’t think that will change anytime soon. Hopefully the second half of the year picks up the slack.

@get2sammyb isn’t haptic feedback just an evolved version of hd rumble on Switch?

Anyone else when controllers didn’t have so many needless gimmicks attached to them? Rumble Is the only one that seams to have lasted, everything else has either been forgotten or greatly diminished. Just make a comfortable controller that’s fun to use, that’s all we need.