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@NEStalgia I don’t think that’s what they are doing. I think the bet is that they have a product desirable enough to the average consumer to where they can release a higher end version. So far the market has shown they are correct with game price increase and strong sales of both the dual sense edge and portal. Sony has development cost issues but hardware I think they are on the money.

The cost of living increase is an issue but there are also several major areas where salaries are at an all time high. In my market average income for first year attorneys has skyrocketed. Holiday bonuses buy 10-12 ps5s. They are targeting a very specific market with the pro and I doubt they expect to sell more than 10M in its lifetime.

My point being depending on the product it’s smart to shift lower or smart to shift higher. Only time will tell!

Edit: interestingly, Xbox tried to shift lower price with the S and while more successful than the X, could not compete with the PS5. PS is the go to brand most consumers don’t really dig any deeper than that.

@NEStalgia I mean that increase is across the board. Food, housing, etc. has all massively increased.

Sony has to get a live service initiative off the ground. The landscape currently demands it. As much as it doesn’t appeal to me, there insistence on pouring resources into this sector is completely warranted.

Still interested. Will likely wait for a deep sale or play on extra.

@Fishnpeas 70 four years ago… if the story didn’t work for you time to let it go. Shoot I’ve spent more than that on a dinner I didn’t like before I don’t post on yelp about it four years later.

Games under a launcher are a no go for me. Designed as a time sink. “Why go to other sources we have so many options for you here!” This might be a great value to some people, but I like moving on from games after the plat/I get my fill of the game. Anything that advertises itself as an ongoing experience is pretty much dropped to the bottom of my to buy list.

@GamerGuy1970 It’s a common theme. Everyone acted like you would have to be stupid to want the portal but I use mine three times a week at least.

Edit: I guess it’s also possible I am stupid.

@Max_the_German Huge bummer that so many articles now quote random Twitter people. Also apparently Twitter is the number one source people use for news? Oof

@Totheteeth control was so good imma play this multiplayer just in case there is cool story connections.

@The_Wailing_Doom Pretty sure they were clowning on the narrative around the game.

@MrPeanutbutterz Agreed. Sony’s brand is likely at an all time high with the average consumer since they are tracking close enough to PS4 after launching during a pandemic and mass economic downturn after. Lots of people forget enthusiasts who visit sites like this are a small part of the consumer base. Most consumers don’t even realize there has been a drought in the first party, they still see top selling big games with “PlayStation console exclusive” on them.

Xbox is certainly ceding the console space. Its next launch will be niche but may find some success in that niche. I honestly still think they purchased ABK for King more so than activision and blizzard. Their ideal outcome would be turning their platform into an accessible mobile style platform with gamepass as their more successful and streamlined Apple Arcade. That’s likely to generate substantial income and cut production cost but at the expense of quality and established Xbox fans. It’s a really interesting time to follow games as a business.

@RudeAnimat0r any game that attempts to demand as much time as Fortnite does is an immediate no go for me. Since it made the move from GaaS to GaaP it further assured I would never download it. Absolute bummer that’s the rise of GaaS… whose sole purpose is to eat your time and slowly drain money from you over the years has coincided with a downturn in profitability of single player experiences. Yes, there are still single player success stories, but GaaS/GaaP has lead to a seismic shift in how much of the audience consumes games and I stand by the belief that $70 up front is less predatory a business practice than “free to play.”

@Jey887 The saddest part is, as an American, I’ve only ever seen this culture war online. It’s like a weird made-up internet controversy that no one actually cares about to discuss enough in person.

@twitchtvpat It’s not much different at all. The only difference would be if the user knows their data is being sold.

Always opt out, set full privacy, etc. Technology is moving extremely fast and you never know the use case for your data. If you live in a country/state with strong data privacy laws that’s a plus… but laws are reactive to the use case and not proactive.

@LazyLombax Launching in 2030. Last report I saw said it’s not even really in pre production yet 🤣

@Perturbator Heavy Rain definitely had the most meme potential but Detroit is peak Quantic Dream cheese.

@EfYI with the current cost of… well everything… I wouldn’t look to past trajectories on when this will be discounted. I would guess when PS6 comes out.

@DennisReynolds Perhaps confusing it with the Acolyte director? I believe she said something along those lines. I don’t remember seeing anyone say that about this game.

@Nem to be fair Star Wars fans have been complaining about no stories outside of the Jedi for years. There is a lot of story to tell about outlaws, scoundrels, and crime syndicates in the universe and it’s arguably more interesting than the jedi as it hasn’t been explored as thoroughly. This game did an okay job of it but I think they were too conservative with the approach.

@Tecinthebrain I beat the story and the only thing I could guess is a woman main character? But Star Wars has a history of strong women characters. In a New Hope Princess Leia takes charge of her own rescue and spends the next two movies leading the rebellion and killing the most notorious kingpin in the galaxy. Padme led the defense of her entire planet and the Jedi involved were essentially in her service. I’m not sure exactly what “woke” even means but this game certainly isn’t an example of it.

@cuttlefishjones even then PS3 outsold Xbox in the end on the back of strong exclusives. I still think gamepass is a viable way forward but only if they focus on on a better production pipeline.

@RudeAnimat0r too many games and now with subscription services, too many backlogs. To sell at launch it needs hype. Outlaws release was near Black Myth Wukong, Astrobot, and Warhammer, all of which had more hype. It also competes for sales with perennial time sink games. Industry is going through a major change right now.

@OneWingedAngel Just throwing it out there Mickey Mouse and Friends and Winnie the Pooh (British but owned by Disney since 1961) are the largest most recognized IP, at least by revenue, in the U.S.

@TheDudeElDuderino I would say Gamepass changes the equation a little. Although how it’s changed next generation is yet to be seen. We have seen small devs praise gamepass and mid sized devs regret gamepass. It’s a huge gamble on revenue for them. Next gen will be interesting and we will see if Xbox can gain market share in the console space.

@NEStalgia 🤣 That escalated quickly

@Titntin The remaster is so dang good. RE4 got more love… but I thought Dead Space was a better remake overall.

@mountain_spider AC has always had more that a ‘slight twist.’ There are barely any actually sources on Yasuke. Truth is neither side can prove a definitive version of who he was. The story of a foreigner gaining some respect and power in Japan during this time period is potentially interesting because it would be so unlikely.

@naruball People don’t source anything anymore we live in an age of misinformation. So much so that the internet is beginning to be so cluttered with AI generated content (with proven inaccuracy and hallucinations) that AI developers are struggling to scrape new content for training.

On a brighter note I like fish out of water stories so I think Yasuke is promising. I don’t like AC so I will pass no matter what.

@ButterySmooth30FPS It’s 90% irrelevant bickering but it’s good for site traffic for sure.

I’m just here to say I still miss my Firewatch background from the PS4.

@MFTWrecks Same I only use YouTube as a last resort to watch something because I hate the presentation style that has taken over the site.

@Yousef- Kojima and Lake should do what Druckmann did and partner with someone in the field who already is showing success in film/television. Help make the transition easier and more successful.

@Lup Concord’s estimated revenue was $1,000,000. That is an absolutely devastating number for a game that size. Worst investment since those VC guys bought an NFT of Dune thinking it gave them the rights to make a movie.

@amatmulisha The FBC is begging for an HBO miniseries.

Druckmann’s success with TLOU is going to open doors for more creatives. Sam Lake next?

@nessisonett I bought the pro I would never donate to any kickstarter 🤣 the pro I know what I’m getting. Kickstarter you don’t get a guarantee of anything

@Frmknst I didn’t say that. You assumed that’s what I thought for some reason though. Likely because you are a constant source of negativity on the site and spend most of your time being condescending and judgmental of others. This game will look and perform better on the Pro, where I will play it.

@PuppetMaster loved deadman and mama hope they are back in some capacity.

Kojima single-handedly justifying the pro purchase you love to see it.

@Shalooda Yea I'm 37 and comfortable I will buy what I choose and preordering the newest PS console is the top of my list 🤣 and I will enjoy it!

@Diowine I don’t think it’s dumb if you are enthusiast and gaming is your hobby. Buying a new console once every four years is not a bad investment when you think about the use you get from it. Factor in people with two homes or a cabin or whatever and now you don’t have to pack up and take it with you. Or people who will sell the PS5 for $400 and only have to pay $300 out of pocket, which I’m assuming is a lot of peoples plans. I think in general we are being way too harsh on people’s choice to upgrade. Shoot my PS4 pro is still running in the office I plan on keeping my PS5 pro at least as long.

@Sergo I would predict it sells comparative to the PS4 Pro. It’s a smart move on Sony’s part. As with the Portal, which has been a sales success, people are assuming because they are not the target audience the device is a mistake or failure. This keeps repeating itself.

@Titntin yea she has a track suit like thing that is much more modest you can unlock pretty early on I switched to and stuck with. Combat is great. To be fair she almost has an alien quality to her rather than human. Like a species Captain Kirk comes across and sleeps with or something 🤣

@Frmknst You really need the check yourself with this attitude. If we act/speak like this here this website’s comment section will become IGN. People have different experiences and wants/desires out of gaming. Your single point of view is just that… your single point of view.

People are so judgmental on here lately. Calling someone a mark or without sense is hilarious.

@nomither6 That’s more like it!

@The_Wailing_Doom The first time I have seen a positive and sensible comment about my state on the internet in a long time. We do bully other states with consumer protection laws but it’s for their own good 🤣

@RoomWithaMoose That wouldn’t be a license though.