Personally perfer a studio who makes a game I enjoy to release a follow up i will buy and enjoy, than spend a fortune on a new ip that may not hit the mark, and if it dont see that studio obilerated due to game costs. However, i would like Sony to take more risk with funding smaller, riskier new games and innovations in the AA space where failure wont destroy a studio but a sucess can be followed up with bigger budget sequels
Ok so they use ai and last years code to make this years game worse, then seemily used ai to QA the output given all the bug, issues and random crap like no pause or mid mission save. Yet they still want £60 for sometjing that cost an AI subscription and someone on minimum wage to prompt, absolute f*****s, this is from a non Cod fan, fell really sorry for anyone who was defauded by this!
Went N64, a lot of friends got PS1s great console but goldeneye to this day makes 64 a good choice, was too young and parents wouldn't buy me both lol. Ps2 on wards was full in from launch lol
I want a PS6 now for better fidelity. I honestly do think care if people stick with PS4 or PS3 if they don't value gfx increases, it's all good. By why do so many who don't value gfx increases want to spoil everyone else's fun and bemoan a better system that will not come into their living room and destroy their old hardware and demand payment for the new one!
Unless you're a power gamer who'll burn through a 50hr game in a day or 2, then spoilers will be out in the open long before most people get to the moments that could be spoilt, even if everyone got the game at the same time. All the b!tching is just today's "the world and his dog must revolve around me and my thoughts" crazy attitude!
Knowing MS this was the plan all along, push a load of old games to competitor consoles to remove all regulatory pressure. Once FTC and anyone else still fighting is out of options. XBox The First, next generation consoles is announced with all new MS owned games only available on it, possibly after snapping up a few publishers first with their new consumer friendly strategy as evidence its not trying to monopolise the market!
Lol, of course we need better hardware, we are all rocking 4k TVs and Monitors, games Devs can easily make 4k eye candy (internal rendering) but due to hardware limitations resolution is scaled back, the up scaled with the inherent problems it causes, and still they struggle to hit 60fps. While going for 8k will offer limited improvement in discernable fidelity we definitely need a more powerful PS6 if only to hit true 4k with 60/120fps and no fake AI upscale/frame gen.
Probably got a brief mention of faith and religion in the audio/text logs discovered when exploring. However, saying now it is all about faith and religion will send the internet into melt down for 2 years. Free promotion and advertisement, well done Neil, well done 👍
The biggest problem with AI will come later, if you rely on AI it will stagnate as it only rehashes what is already there. By replacing the creatives with AI, no one is creating any more and new ideas dry up. AI makes mistakes and hallucinations, you need experts who know the basics to review and spot them, if no-one is doing the basics and learning where are the experts coming from to verify the output. It's a false economy in a lot of scenarios they are pushing it.
Honestly don't get the strategy. Most of the successful live service games have a very similar trajectory. Make good single player game with decent multiplayer (GTA, FIFA, GT, CoD,etc) or luck out releasing a multiplayer version of a popular game in development (Fortnight) or release a multiplayer variant of popular franchise in a booming genre (apex) then if it hit throw the world at the Live service side and profit! Of all the live service games Sony went with the only one that looked close to this model and may have been successful was the Last of us but sure the correct model was launch with Last of us 3 (dev cost mostly recouped) if multiplayer was popular (very likely) pivot more Devs towards it and profit. Oh well opportunity missed I guess
Playstation only fans will not be tempted to switch (pardon the pun). Similarly Nintendo only fans are not and did not move to playstation en mass. The there are the dual owner who will remain dual owners and get a switch 2. The main competition for Switch 2 is the Switch and can they get people to Switch (pardon the pun) to the presumably much more expensive Switch?
I'm mostly digital only. Never really traded games so just sat dust collecting on shelves mostly. Not entitled much so I don't expect to get games for free or near free, buying at launch and selling. Also having the disk drive separate is the best option those that want it can have it (when scalpers run out of gullible targets). Those that don't, looking at the stats in the article is most people, save money on the hardware. Those claim most pro owner will cos they are hardcore and have back catalogue? What hardcore gamers sells there old consoles
"The Last of Them - Human Extermination" starring Bloater Joel Followed by a £10 PS5 remaster (cos development started on PS5), work has begun on the £70 PS6 remake. You heard it here first!!!
Starting to think Sony created a black list of people who stacked premium membership for £30 a year from the old streaming sub membership, and don't give them discounts!
@Nexozi roll on Thursday, not a CoD player get my FPS fix from Apex, interested to see what "pro" improvements are happening, getting the pro cos I cannot help myself when new tech is launched!
@Nexozi - ah thanks for the clarification, makes more sense and I am aware you can play other games on GPU, just reacted to your statement - " I switched from PS5 to Xbox to play COD this year because it's free on GPU." 😊
Think this will be bad on Xbox side, a lot of those "lost" Xbox sales will be existing subscribers, any new subs will likely be 1 month campaign and done, unlikely someone will pay monthly allowance for a year to play CoD when it's £70 one-off (excluding @Nexozi of course whose happy to pay £180 per year + cost of Xbox - PS sell price to play CoD for free!!!)
Good news for PS, based on those figures they will not want to remove it from PS in 10 years or whatever the guarantee was on take over!
Why the anger with price it's a pro version. It in no way sets the tone for PS6 pricing. Base console will always be affordable they want software sales to 10's of millions of user. Making a few quid on the few willing to pay for higher spec will not excite shareholders and investors!
Did I miss Sony's announcement that they are discontinuing the PS5 in November? At the same time as they release a mandatory update to all existing PS5 and 4s that does nothing other than render the system useless and displays a full screen advert advising you need PS5 pro or you cannot game on PS again? I'm guessing I did based on all this outrage over an optional system that me ( and probably many others) will buy and accept it is a reasonable cost for an optional premium accessory! I did forget the age old rule that the price you sell any item must be the same or less than a similar item sold decades ago!!!!
Probably scalpers, probably start seeing them on Amazon for £300, with a slight edit to the packaging, they'll print a "PS5 Pro Enhanced” label onto it and fool some mugs lol
PS5 is a loss leader or break even to tempt people into the eco system and make on software. PS pro is a premium item, it won't be tempting anyone into the eco system, so correctly the add a margin probably 20-30%, seems fair to me. I don't get all p!ssy on the internet because the Xperia 1 IV is £1200 when you can get a basicphone 101 for £79.99 at the local market. The world's gone mad. If you don't see the point in slight improvements for exponentially more cost that's all good, the is product to meet your basic needs. For those that have and want the extra bells and whistles let us have them and pay the price! I'm game!
Wow, so many "the world owes me everything for free types! Nobody is removing your ability to stick with your PS1, 2 or 3 if that's what your budget allows, for the slightly better off sticking with your PS4, 4pro or 5 is still possible without spending a penny. You can still buy a PS5 diskless and and disk drive if you want! But that is not enough for them if they cannot have better Graphics for cheaper than now, the no-one should be able to pay for better!!!! What is this world coming too, what are they teaching kids/young adults today wow
Better 1st party and richer experience. = All the current 1st party games getting better with the pro badge in 2025 with a patch and some treated to richer experiences for the small cost of a £70 remaster. Cannot wait lol
Why do we never see honesty. This is simply the cost column on the spreadsheet being larger than the revenue column. Which surprises no-one, but lots of successful publishers and dev, successful as they sell games full price to 10's million gamers across all platforms. Proceed to give games to Xbox players for free (those that want go already have it,) and restrict any sales from 100's million customers on PS. These suit could see the revenue issue looming!!!
Not surprising, based on comments on this site and others every time PS plus line up is announced - if your £5-15 monthly subscription fee doesn't give you 3x AAA £70 new releases for free and access to another 20x AAA £70 releases on rental basis per month it's really bad value!
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Re: Talking Point: Does PS5 Have a Sequel Problem?
Personally perfer a studio who makes a game I enjoy to release a follow up i will buy and enjoy, than spend a fortune on a new ip that may not hit the mark, and if it dont see that studio obilerated due to game costs. However, i would like Sony to take more risk with funding smaller, riskier new games and innovations in the AA space where failure wont destroy a studio but a sucess can be followed up with bigger budget sequels
Re: Embarrassing AI Art Plagues Call of Duty: Black Ops 7 Launch
Ok so they use ai and last years code to make this years game worse, then seemily used ai to QA the output given all the bug, issues and random crap like no pause or mid mission save. Yet they still want £60 for sometjing that cost an AI subscription and someone on minimum wage to prompt, absolute f*****s, this is from a non Cod fan, fell really sorry for anyone who was defauded by this!
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PS1 at Launch?
Went N64, a lot of friends got PS1s great console but goldeneye to this day makes 64 a good choice, was too young and parents wouldn't buy me both lol. Ps2 on wards was full in from launch lol
Re: Stolen PS1 WipEout Games Axed from the Xbox Store
Was this MS own game preservation a.i tool lol
Re: PS6 Still Years Away Despite Increase in Next-Gen Chatter
I want a PS6 now for better fidelity. I honestly do think care if people stick with PS4 or PS3 if they don't value gfx increases, it's all good. By why do so many who don't value gfx increases want to spoil everyone else's fun and bemoan a better system that will not come into their living room and destroy their old hardware and demand payment for the new one!
Re: Talking Point: Do Early Access Editions Go Too Far for Story Games Like Death Stranding 2?
Unless you're a power gamer who'll burn through a 50hr game in a day or 2, then spoilers will be out in the open long before most people get to the moments that could be spoilt, even if everyone got the game at the same time. All the b!tching is just today's "the world and his dog must revolve around me and my thoughts" crazy attitude!
Re: The FTC Is Still Fighting Microsoft's Activision Buyout, and It's Not Going Well
Knowing MS this was the plan all along, push a load of old games to competitor consoles to remove all regulatory pressure. Once FTC and anyone else still fighting is out of options. XBox The First, next generation consoles is announced with all new MS owned games only available on it, possibly after snapping up a few publishers first with their new consumer friendly strategy as evidence its not trying to monopolise the market!
Re: PS6 Can't Rely on Cutting-Edge Graphics, Sony Must 'Change Its Way of Thinking'
Lol, of course we need better hardware, we are all rocking 4k TVs and Monitors, games Devs can easily make 4k eye candy (internal rendering) but due to hardware limitations resolution is scaled back, the up scaled with the inherent problems it causes, and still they struggle to hit 60fps. While going for 8k will offer limited improvement in discernable fidelity we definitely need a more powerful PS6 if only to hit true 4k with 60/120fps and no fake AI upscale/frame gen.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Game All About Faith, Religion, and 'Being Lonely'
Probably got a brief mention of faith and religion in the audio/text logs discovered when exploring. However, saying now it is all about faith and religion will send the internet into melt down for 2 years. Free promotion and advertisement, well done Neil, well done 👍
Re: Sony Puts PS Plus Extra, Premium on Sale in the USA
Seems ARPU increase reported recently was us in Europe, guess US not so much so discounts offered to try and convince more to upgrade.
Re: Capcom Seems Sold on Using AI to Help Out with Game Development
The biggest problem with AI will come later, if you rely on AI it will stagnate as it only rehashes what is already there. By replacing the creatives with AI, no one is creating any more and new ideas dry up.
AI makes mistakes and hallucinations, you need experts who know the basics to review and spot them, if no-one is doing the basics and learning where are the experts coming from to verify the output.
It's a false economy in a lot of scenarios they are pushing it.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Live Service Push Has Been a Disaster of Utterly Insane Proportions
Honestly don't get the strategy. Most of the successful live service games have a very similar trajectory.
Make good single player game with decent multiplayer (GTA, FIFA, GT, CoD,etc) or luck out releasing a multiplayer version of a popular game in development (Fortnight) or release a multiplayer variant of popular franchise in a booming genre (apex) then if it hit throw the world at the Live service side and profit!
Of all the live service games Sony went with the only one that looked close to this model and may have been successful was the Last of us but sure the correct model was launch with Last of us 3 (dev cost mostly recouped) if multiplayer was popular (very likely) pivot more Devs towards it and profit. Oh well opportunity missed I guess
Re: Poll: Will the Switch 2 Compete with PS5?
Playstation only fans will not be tempted to switch (pardon the pun). Similarly Nintendo only fans are not and did not move to playstation en mass. The there are the dual owner who will remain dual owners and get a switch 2.
The main competition for Switch 2 is the Switch and can they get people to Switch (pardon the pun) to the presumably much more expensive Switch?
Re: The State of the UK's Physical Games Market Might Explain PS5 Pro's Lack of Disc Drive
I'm mostly digital only. Never really traded games so just sat dust collecting on shelves mostly. Not entitled much so I don't expect to get games for free or near free, buying at launch and selling. Also having the disk drive separate is the best option those that want it can have it (when scalpers run out of gullible targets). Those that don't, looking at the stats in the article is most people, save money on the hardware. Those claim most pro owner will cos they are hardcore and have back catalogue? What hardcore gamers sells there old consoles
Re: Naughty Dog Casts Troy Baker to Star in Untitled Next PS5 Game
"The Last of Them - Human Extermination" starring Bloater Joel
Followed by a £10 PS5 remaster (cos development started on PS5), work has begun on the £70 PS6 remake. You heard it here first!!!
Re: PS Plus Black Friday Discounts Again Seem Completely Random
Starting to think Sony created a black list of people who stacked premium membership for £30 a year from the old streaming sub membership, and don't give them discounts!
Re: PS5 Dominates UK Black Ops 6 Sales, As Game Pass Causes Xbox Share to Collapse
@Nexozi roll on Thursday, not a CoD player get my FPS fix from Apex, interested to see what "pro" improvements are happening, getting the pro cos I cannot help myself when new tech is launched!
Re: PS5 Dominates UK Black Ops 6 Sales, As Game Pass Causes Xbox Share to Collapse
@Nexozi - ah thanks for the clarification, makes more sense and I am aware you can play other games on GPU, just reacted to your statement - " I switched from PS5 to Xbox to play COD this year because it's free on GPU." 😊
Re: PS5 Dominates UK Black Ops 6 Sales, As Game Pass Causes Xbox Share to Collapse
Think this will be bad on Xbox side, a lot of those "lost" Xbox sales will be existing subscribers, any new subs will likely be 1 month campaign and done, unlikely someone will pay monthly allowance for a year to play CoD when it's £70 one-off (excluding @Nexozi of course whose happy to pay £180 per year + cost of Xbox - PS sell price to play CoD for free!!!)
Good news for PS, based on those figures they will not want to remove it from PS in 10 years or whatever the guarantee was on take over!
Re: Tech Experts Reckon PS5 Pro Could Help Pave the Way to PS6
Why the anger with price it's a pro version. It in no way sets the tone for PS6 pricing. Base console will always be affordable they want software sales to 10's of millions of user. Making a few quid on the few willing to pay for higher spec will not excite shareholders and investors!
Re: Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Continues to Tank in Japan Following Price Increase
Won't be long before PS4 is out selling Xbox X/s in Japan, who'd have thunk it hehe
Re: Vince Zampella Defends PS5 Pro Price, Says 'It's Actually Not That Bad'
Did I miss Sony's announcement that they are discontinuing the PS5 in November? At the same time as they release a mandatory update to all existing PS5 and 4s that does nothing other than render the system useless and displays a full screen advert advising you need PS5 pro or you cannot game on PS again?
I'm guessing I did based on all this outrage over an optional system that me ( and probably many others) will buy and accept it is a reasonable cost for an optional premium accessory!
I did forget the age old rule that the price you sell any item must be the same or less than a similar item sold decades ago!!!!
Re: Prospective PS5 Pro Buyers Cause Disc Drives to Sell Out
Probably scalpers, probably start seeing them on Amazon for £300, with a slight edit to the packaging, they'll print a "PS5 Pro Enhanced” label onto it and fool some mugs lol
Re: 'It Makes Sense Why the PS5 Pro Price Is So High,' Say Tech Experts
PS5 is a loss leader or break even to tempt people into the eco system and make on software. PS pro is a premium item, it won't be tempting anyone into the eco system, so correctly the add a margin probably 20-30%, seems fair to me.
I don't get all p!ssy on the internet because the Xperia 1 IV is £1200 when you can get a basicphone 101 for £79.99 at the local market. The world's gone mad. If you don't see the point in slight improvements for exponentially more cost that's all good, the is product to meet your basic needs. For those that have and want the extra bells and whistles let us have them and pay the price! I'm game!
Re: Despite Price Point, Analyst Firm Expects PS5 Pro to Sell Like PS4 Pro
Wow, so many "the world owes me everything for free types! Nobody is removing your ability to stick with your PS1, 2 or 3 if that's what your budget allows, for the slightly better off sticking with your PS4, 4pro or 5 is still possible without spending a penny. You can still buy a PS5 diskless and and disk drive if you want! But that is not enough for them if they cannot have better Graphics for cheaper than now, the no-one should be able to pay for better!!!! What is this world coming too, what are they teaching kids/young adults today wow
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Delay Isn't Due to Platform Limitations, Says Microsoft
Why would Sony pay for exclusivity, it will basically be exclusive to PS if launched same day on Xbox, unless Xbox paid to put it on Game pass.
Re: PlayStation Fans Think Hideo Kojima's Teasing PS5 Pro, But It's One Hell of a Reach
Does this mean the PS5 pro is cool you need to insulate it with a blanket to stop condensation!
Re: The Next Naughty Dog Game Its 'Most Thrilling Yet', Says Neil Druckmann
You heard it here first, next Naughty dog game is....drum roll...."The last of us remastered-redifined for Pro"
Re: Sony Committed to Better First-Party Games, 'Richer' Experiences, More PS5 Users
Better 1st party and richer experience. = All the current 1st party games getting better with the pro badge in 2025 with a patch and some treated to richer experiences for the small cost of a £70 remaster. Cannot wait lol
Re: More Xbox Layoffs Reportedly Inbound as Company Attempts to Cut Costs
Why do we never see honesty. This is simply the cost column on the spreadsheet being larger than the revenue column.
Which surprises no-one, but lots of successful publishers and dev, successful as they sell games full price to 10's million gamers across all platforms.
Proceed to give games to Xbox players for free (those that want go already have it,) and restrict any sales from 100's million customers on PS.
These suit could see the revenue issue looming!!!
Re: Gaming Subs Like PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Aren't Growing At All
Not surprising, based on comments on this site and others every time PS plus line up is announced - if your £5-15 monthly subscription fee doesn't give you 3x AAA £70 new releases for free and access to another 20x AAA £70 releases on rental basis per month it's really bad value!