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Octane

@YummyHappyPills Had I known how good it was, I think I would've paid €60 for it instead of €45-50. I just find it hard to justify to buy the game a second time for a higher price than I originally paid for. Especially seeing how it got a €20 Selects title not too long ago. If it was around €30, it would've been more interested in it.

Octane

Haruki_NLI

Eeeyyy. The Pro Controller is now a £70 Switch AND Steam controller.

Tried it in PUBG. Motion controls are gud

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Haruki_NLI

Activisions earnings reports are out. All we have on Switch is that Crash Bandicoot is coming. Dont even know if investors will ask. No plans for Spyro on Switch either so that dates the NL video quite heavily.

They release Skylanders at launch, go silent, announce Crash in a Direct, go silent. We may be on a game a year from Activision, problem is one of them isn't Spyro.

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Tasuki

@YummyHappyPills And honestly that's one reason I have been pulling away from Nintendo the last few gens and going with Sony more so. Most of the third party games and companies I like Activision, Rockstar even EA to a degree just don't support Nintendo or if they do it's very minor compared to PlayStation and Xbox. Nintendo always promises that there systems will have third party support but it's not up to them it's up to the third parties.

Yeah as a Nintendo fan I can understand it hurts but I got over the whole loyalty thing last gen. If the games I want to play aren't going to come to Nintendo when why should I support something that doesn't have what I want?

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Haruki_NLI

@Tasuki I honestly think Nintendo is the company most likely to drop hardware from a necessity standpoint. I mean MS will drop first simply because they dont need it nor does it really benefit them, but Nintendo will end up having to drop it.

They cant get the games in their current position, but if they made a spec box their investors would be unhappy with lower returns per unit (as Nintendo almost never takes losses on hardware otherwise investors freak) and honestly their exclusives wouldnt be enough to differentiate it from the other boxes.

At this point if anyone is buying a Nintendo console for anything beyond "Boy that Mario looks fun" then give em a hearty dose of "Look at this thing called a fleshed out library".

Of course Nintendo has the benefit of not running face first to the graphical ceiling we will hit. The one thing Sony and MS dont know is they will need to drop the resolution based marketing sooner or later as eventually TVs will need to be so big for even higher resolutions to be appreciable at "normal" viewing angles and distances, but the problem there is peoples homes are only so big. There is a physical limit to the appreciable difference a higher resolution brings and that limit is the size of a TV someone can fit in a room.

This is like 20 years off mind, but its an inevitability unless some massive shift in TV tech allows us to view 12k and see the difference at anything under 80 inches.

It can go either way. They positioned themselves away from the inevitable mess by not focuaing on spec but in doing so entered a battle they will inevitably die from. Its just a matter of when.

Even when their system is a sales success its still a failure.

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Ralizah

Nintendo is the richest company in Japan and is the least reliant on third-party support in order to drive sales. They're easily the most well-equipped of the Big Three to survive well into the future, especially if there's another crash.

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Haruki_NLI

Reposting from NL because if this leak is in any way true, boy I'll be scathing.

The Online stuff we already knew minus Discord, so whatever, that cant be impressive no matter how low the price.

The VC rebranding and new price point is VERY welcome.

The E3 lineup? Well in terms of first party output we already know their entire E3 showing, the only surprises are specifics on games and third parties, and the latter will be lacklustre at best. The former will be fine, given you know, Smash and FE news finally, but Yoshi we already saw last E3 and Pokemon is a maybe, but this rumour makes it VERY not appealing.

I think its all fake frankly, as the inclusion of 2019 games is not gonna happen after they categorically said E3 is 2018 ONLY (More disappointment...).

There's a rumour doing the rounds that is so blatantly fake as it started from GameFAQs but lets run this down the disappointment scale.

Firstly they say the Online Service will be revealed May 7th

-Goes live September 24th
-Dedicated voice chat through an existing chat service, with Discord being rumoured.
-Exclusive eShop discounts
-Games With Gold style retro offerings you keep for the duration of your subscription.

Okay we knew all but the voice chat thing. Big whoop.

Virtual Console

-Nintendo is dropping the brand and replacing it with Nintendo Classics.
-Games will be cheaper than their VC counterparts.
-Launches in August with NES and GBA games.
-SNES and N64 games to come Late 2018 or early 2019

So, sound believable to be honest. It's the most logical change to VC is to make it cheaper.

E3

-Apparently the presentation is 36 minutes.
-Spyro Reignited Trilogy is revealed.
-Fire Emblem Lustrous Daybreak: Holiday release
-Yoshi Flipped Around: August release
-Paper Mario. Not developed by Intelligent Systems, returns to the partner system but with the same character limitations as Sticker Star and Colour Splash. 2019

So my first on these first things - Fake. A 2019 game? They already said 2018 exclusively. Flipped Around is a dumb name but August is probably right. The Fire Emblem name is also dumb but then again...

As for holding back Spyro, that's dumb. Really dumb. Paper Mario, people wont like that news. Then again IS doesn't seem able to juggle both that and Fire Emblem (Notice the decline for PM happened right as FE exploded).

-Super Mario Odyssey DLC: Playable Luigi with 70 new moons released that day. Wario and Waluigi planned for later.
-Crash Bandicoot amiibo adds harder time trials to N. Sane.
Black Ops 4 Battle Royale is the only BLOPS4 content coming to Switch. But it has cross play with PC and Xbox One!

So, Luigi playable I can believe, they have teased that. Wario and Waluigi, hell no. Fans dream there. Crash amiibo is admittedly likely. It wouldn't be the first amiibo from Activision.

BLOPS 4 though...no. Again withholding an announcement for a dumb reason only this one is underwhelming. Cross play in a HUGE game would be a blow for the PS4 though.

-SEGA AGES has Sonic Adventure and Adventure 2 revealed.
-Super Sonic Racing takes elements from Sonic R with some characters in vehicles. Nintendo exclusive content
-Metroid Prime 4 trailer: 2019
-Pokemon Switch is a reimagining of Red/Blue with graphics somewhere between Sun and Moon, and Pokken.

Okay so both Adventure games would be great, don't know if they would do Dreamcast so soon, but they did say it was possible and if so that is the strongest way to start. Super Sonic Racing seems a little dreamy but that also feels like the vibe the tease gave.

Metroid Prime 4, again, they said 2018 only. Pokemon, boy there will be rage but it feels safe and underwhelming. Graphically honestly that will be just fine but the concept is...meh.

-Five Nights at Freddy's is coming to Switch, but the content may have been censored by Scott Cawthon, but not because Nintendo wanted it. It was his choice apparently. Fall 2018
-Two Smash Trailers, one revealing Captain Toad, the other revealed Crash and Spyro. This is why the Switch release of Spyro was quiet. Mix of Smash 4 and Melee. Launches September as we expect.
-Ice Climbers revealed in the Treehouse.

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Tasuki

@YummyHappyPills If the rumors are true about Black Ops 4, I would gladly take the no Cross Play full version PS4 game then cross play Battle Royale only Switch version of BO4. Now if the Switch does get a full version of BO4 with multiplayer, Zombies, Battler Royale etc then I may get it on the Switch.

But.I can't see a cross play Battle Royale only version outselling a full version on PS4.

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Haruki_NLI

@Tasuki I cant see any version of a western third party release outselling the PS4 version. That's just the market.

What shocks me more is the gall to release a simple BR only game (Probably for full price!) and offer "Cross play" with the full versions on other systems, but obviously only in BR modes.

Given Treyarch once spent time porting countless CoD games to the WII of all things, it boggles the mind they cant even put in the multiplayer here. I mean its not like there is any single player to port if rumours are true. So it's just a dumb decision.

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Haruki_NLI

@Tasuki Well Activision is basically "replacing" single player with the BR mode. So I suppose that would be in line with no multiplayer releases of the past

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Gamer83

So, just played Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze for the first time. Got through world 1. Obviously not too far in, but I can see why people love it. Looking forward to getting further in it. Returns is probably my third favorite 2D platformer all-time behind Super Mario World and SMB 3.

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Tasuki

@YummyHappyPills Right. I actually can see both sides of the argument there sadly. Still I am just taking all these rumors with a grain of salt but In wouldn't be surprised if some of them do come true.

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Octane

Sounds like a wishlist to me. Playable Wario and Waluigi give it away. The rest is plausible, but not everything is likely to happen. Yeah, Nintendo said they're going to focus on 2018, but they will show some 2019 stuff, they always do that, I'm not worried about that part. But the Black Ops, Spyro and Pokemon bits are all based on rumours. That makes it more believable to some, because it's all stuff they've heard before, but it's also very easy to make a ''leak'' like this by combining a bunch of rumours.

Octane

JohnnyShoulder

No news on cloud saves or did i miss that? Especially important with Switches bricking when used with third party docks

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Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

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Octane

@Gamer83 It gets better with each world. The secret levels are great too, they're the ultimate challenge in each world, but you need to collect the KONG letters from each level to access it. I did a full playthrough back in the day and completed the game, I cannot say I regret it.

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Haruki_NLI

@JohnnyShoulder Apparently not but this rumour is so clearly fake XD

@Octane Nintendo confirmed in the press release they sent to websites that 2019 is out of the question.

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mookysam

@YummyHappyPills E3 rumours are always good fun especially when they're made up on gamefaqs. The thing with Nintendo is at this point I don't really put anything past them. 😂

Super Mario Odyssey dlc could be good but I'd like new kingdoms to explore. The thought of getting another 70 random moons in existing worlds that have already had a bazillion of the things? Hmm I'm not sure if I'd be too enthusiastic about that. Unless maybe it's New Donk City 'cause I loved that one.

As for Pokémon I wouldn't mind a reimagining of Red and Blue. What I really want to see is Metroid Prime 4! I know they say 2018 games only, but it doesn't hurt to build up some hype for the future.

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Haruki_NLI

@Tasuki There are some current omissions, like Spyro that are just...baffling. Those I expect.

But after having a Wii, DS, 3DS and Wii U (Since launch...) I dont expect third party support. If it comes I expect heavy cuts, sadly sometimes for completely unnecessary reasons, sometimes necessary, and a higher price.

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