Price drop or increase?

So many great games coming all at once because (mostly) of GTA. People can't realistically keep up with the overflow. Whether it's money, time or both… Can we expect some coverage on this topic through this autumn, PushSquare?

I know we had some games that sold really well lately, but some flops as well.

My guess is it's only on new FULL priced releases I never buy on the PS store, so no credits for me.

It's fine

Can't believe I'm saying it but that's actually Good News for me. Have the PS5 version already with like 2% completion, so I can go from that now. (Will restart the story anyway)

Also, as was stated above. Would trade 720p60 for any resolution in 30fps any day. I will just sit further back from the TV

All of a sudden, PS6 starts to make sense again But the PS6 version will likely arrive a year or more than the console, just like with GTA5 (Online mode, yay…)

Absolutely insane. Best lighting in an open world game (on a console) ever.

The missions were agreat surprise. Great cutscenes

It also has its own DLC mini trophy list! 19 levels on Nightmare. (Yeah, prolly not getting that one…)

@G4n0nD0rf It's included with the PS5 version of Quake. PS Store only. No disk (like it's 2028 already )

Dying Light was on Extra. The story and writing is incredibly bad, but otherwise it was nice. Might chase a few trophies that I haven’t finish before they removed it from extra.

Reasons they went for digital inly release in order of importance for R* (as I see it)

1) You can sell a bluray game after finishing and they get nothing from it. You can’t resell a code once it’s used. (This could be thousands of copies)

2) they can polish the game untill the very last second without going gold on a disk. (No one will ever experience the build from 1+ month prior the release.)

3) Leaks of gameplay would flood the internet, making people consume that first, before they would even boot up the game themselves. Ruining the first experience by being impatient. Not necessarily getting spoilers on a story that we know nothing about.

4) spoilers

Intergalactic no-show is really worrying. 😳

To all the people questioning the sales. On PSNProfiles (a trophy hunting community, where people are usually playing more niche/hard games than the mainstream) the game is topping the “popular games this week” chart, but with rather unimpressive numbers. The numbers there usually correlate with how good is the game selling and how big of a hype there is. And sadly, so far, it’s not looking great for Saros. (I bought the game and some of the production values are definitely not matching the price. But the gameplay is sooo good… loving it)

If they would have thought it will sell good, they would put it full price like Flight Simulator or Forza. So, to some degree, it’s a fairly believable guesstimate

@DrVenture69 kinda the same question – has the performance on PS5 Pro been addressed?

Guess you have to have US PS account as well as the US Cash App, right?

Looked really cool until I saw the price TBH. Definitely not a Day1 purchase.

For some reason, I thought the new wave of games releasing at 40 USD is "exactly these titles".

Maaan… Just give us variable resolution with 120fps aim with VRR support, that actually works.

On the landing page, there is only 60 FPS mentioned. And in the "PS5 Pro", they only talk about the 5K PSSR oversample, which indicates we're getting 60fps on PS5 Pro as well…

And now everyone should actually count what they played (or intend to) at “discount prices” that they would actually pay for the game. I have Extra and can tell you it is a really good value for me. (The negative effect is I would rather wait on something to get on PS Plus, so some devs are simply not getting the money from me… And they deserve them)

@AFCC Exactly the same.

Started on launch on a base PS4, but it was such a mess, that now I’m waiting for a PS5 Pro patch to play the game in a shape it was supposed to come out 5 years back 😅

@Shadcai Would be real nice. Or to get a discounted upgrade. Bought the Kingdom Come: Deliverance Royal Edition digitally earlier this year and it still awaits in the backlog.

The fact that you can upgrade different PS Plus titles but not this one is efed-up. 10 dollar upgrade? Yes. Full price? No thanks.

Guess I'm not playing it…

What a weird decision. This was not the case with another games (like Horizon Zero Dawn)

I'll give this one a go on Pro. (Please let there be another great first-party support of the Pro…)

Another Returnal… WHICH IS A GOOD THING!!!

Maybe we all should be just really greatfull for all the remakes, because there usually not much to go wrong.

I'm sure they really could have done Bloodborne remake in 2 years and it would be the thing people actually want. Ufff

God of War life service? That game is only special because of all the characters and mainly the two main characters. I would not like to play for anyone else in that universe against anything else in that universe. ZERO INTEREST

And tell me that to make it more "fun" they made all characters able to fly like they did it in Suicide Squad…

GREAT

Why don't they just realize THIS market is a huge lottery and it's more a matter of luck or persistence that some service games are successful.
You can't just throw money at it and a famous IP and think it will be a success.

If they would invest all the money they spent on these canceled or disastrous games, we would have another 3 or 4 fantastic AAA games to play and remember. But hey, they just can't leave that part of the market to the competition, right…

I actually NEVER shut it down. Always in rest mode and when something doesn't work, I try restarting the console.

The first time I turned off my PS5 was when I was selling it after I bought PS5 Pro

@AgentMantis Really sounds like they should abandon pricey hardware and release next gen this year, which would be just a tiny bit more powerful than Series X, but same price as Series S. (Should be achievable now) and release digital only. And release new console every three-four years with less updates.

Doing that could actually save that sinking ship.

It would be really awesome for kids/casual players and the poor. (It will run Fortnite and Fifa.)
For AAA console experience there would be PS. And then of course Nintendo.

Maybe this would be a way how the market could be still split between these three entities while everybody would profit from it. Now, PS and MS are doing the same thing for three generations already and it's 2:1 for PS so far.

I loved how the guy used "FOMO" and then fully explained the abbreviation for us. Mate, in case you feel you have to explain FOMO to your audience, don't use it…

Ray-traced Mona. Gimme

What Insomniac are doing with the uncapped VRR framerates is genius as it is future-proof. The settings that now give you 70-90fps on PS5 Pro will most likely be around 120fps on PS6 once it arrives.

@Horizon_Rover Buy (ideally used) Slim with the drive and put it in the PS5 Pro. Worked for me and cost less then the drive for a retail price. (You just have to sell the [now Digital] Slim after, which is some work)

"there’s little financial incentive"

Disagree.

– I bought F1 24 just because it has great PS5 Pro support, otherwise I would just wait for it to be on a service like I always did in the past (EA Play and PS Plus)
– Bought Horizon Remastered because of PS5 Pro support.
– Will buy Alan Wake 2 earlier than I would because of the PS5 pro support.

Would I pay 5-10 USD extra for remastered versions for PS5 Pro? Yes.

Give me Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 Pro update with the same amount of settings as Spider-Man 2 has and I will pay for it.

@CielloArc look at the Box Art please. It's a collab and Guerrila is involved and it's published by SIE. If anyone in the world had Pro devkit, it would be them…

Really don't understand why everyone is downplaying this…

The game has two graphical modes: Fidelity runs 30fps and looks better. Performance runs 60 fps and looks worse. I would expect them to do Fidelity mode with PSSR that is locked at 60fps on non-VRR screens. For 120Hz VRR screens, framerate could be un-capped and aim for around 60-90 range like Spider-Man games are. Would be lovely to get this for more games.

This game could be considered a Playstation Studio title and please tell me who else should be making the best use of PS5 Pro than them…

Patience pays dividends: Dying Light 2 is here and it's supposed to be PS5 Pro Enhanced. YES!

@Amnesiac https://www.lg.com/eg_en/tv-soundbars/oled/oled65b46la/

Most reviews view the LG B4 line of OLED TVs as the best bang for your buck. Also, I really like WebOS and the magic remote controller that goes with LG TVs.

To actually have a bigger overall upgrade I'm upgrading the TV from LED 60hz 2020 model to 2024 OLED 120hz VRR supporting model alongside the PS5 Pro itself. Can't wait!

I'm trying to buy one for 2 months, but it was not in stock anywhere for months and wont be available until at least December.

A solution would be to buy PS5 Slim (used one ideally) with the drive, take it out and sell the PS5 Slim without the drive. But not many PS5 Slim with drive on the market as well

Would be lovely to get a PS5 Pro support as well along this.

Sony has the data of how people play (all games you played and when) and certainly have data if you play digital or from disc and that gives them the full picture. And if you count in all the PS Plus games played, it will be something like 95% games digital. And that’s why they will try to bury discs with PS6.

Not only sales-based decision, but also usage-based.

Is this measured in units or money?

I only buy cheap/small games digitally, so I would say i technically buy more games on digital, but I spend more on the Physical games.

Also, i would love to know how if any subscription is affecting this (like PS Plus Essential, where you technically buy the game as you get a receipt and everything)

They made grey blob that is not standing out in anything and if they realize this, they can do some extreme changes to the core gameplay, put this as Free-to-play and make this a All-or-nothing bet.

I loved this so much. The post lunch support was incredible. And the same goes for the bike spin-off version they released later. Just great

I love these upgrades – it's like movies that were released on VHS, then on DVD's, then on FullHD Blu-ray, and now on 4K Blu-Ray.

Same content, but just a better overall experience. I still haven't played Days Gone and I would love to play it with full PS5 Pro support instead of playing a PS4 game on my PS5 Pro. (Even with the 60p update)

All this means is that all titles that have a hard time reaching stable framerates, utilize VRR or had a really optimistically set up dynamic resolution, will run more stable, will have higher framerates and will run in higher resolution respectively. For PS4 games, this was already mostly solved by base PS5, so i don't understand why they're promoting PS5 Pro like this, when theres basically nothing to enhance anymore…

(Locked 60 fps can't be any smoother than 60 fps, 150fps instead of 120fps in VRR is useless and 2.8K cap on dynamic resolution means the game can't even get to a native 4K by the design, so more computing power won't help here… Also, PS4 games supported VRR? I don't think so – That came with PS5 era, no?)

@Medic_alert Exactly THIS!

But when people talk about PS and choose to play on it, it was always the type of games and the fact you’re sitting on a couch in front of a tv with controller in your hands that is extremely user friendly.

I don’t want to use keyboard and mouse, sit at a table and most importantly I DONT WANT TO TOUCH WINDOWS ever again in my life. I don’t want to fiddle with graphics settings that somehow match my machines power.

I see these two worlds really divided so I really don’t get all the “you could get a better PC for this price”. I wouldn’t buy a more powerful PC even if it was half the money.

(Almost Secretly) removing Horizon from Extra and adding 10 indie games in exchange (+Far Cry 5 that was removed from Extra like half-year ago).

What is this?!