PS5 Pro Flexes Its Muscle in Montage Trailer

Once again, and im really going to sound like a broken record soon, but this is out for pre order in 1 day and we still dont have confirmed specs from Sony.

Though i have just read some of the enhancements planned for various games on playstation.com 's blog - it would have been much better to have had an hour long presentation on the specs and the real details of the upgrades.
Considering the target market and price, this should have been seen at Sony as an obvious necessity.

"Now you're playing with power"

How dare you?!

@Rich33 Not sure I agree. They're sticking to their script - "it will offer fidelity mode at 60fps." You either want it or you don't. The spec game probably isn't going to be the thing that sways a bunch of people.

Now you're playing with... a 7700XT and an old Ryzen 3600. Meh.

PS5 Pro is the Portal all over again. What I mean is there will be more posts in threads about it from people who don’t like it than from people who do.

I don't know about ya but the montage went by so fast I couldn't really follow it😅

It's crazy how i went from "i might upgrade my console to this" to "why would i sell my PS5 with disc drive to buy a console without one, which will cost me an additional 600 bucks (i live in Brazil, baby!) + the amount remaining to complete the full price of the Pro (which we still don't know how much will it be in Brazil, but we guess something around 5.500-6.000 bucks which is A LOT)"

I reached a point where i really need to ask myself if the money I'll spend on these things are worth the effort, and to me, personally, it isn't. Same goes for unnecessary Remasters.

They're so remarkably vague about what people should actually expect from a device their own statements reveal isn't all that. 60fps (except when it isn't). On select titles. They keep highlighting rebirth because it's so amazingly horrifyingly badly made as an exclusive that it brute forces extremely well. Even though nobody bought the game anyway. Then they show everything else in a flash and half the images still look soft. We'll see how reality pans out but this thing feels like an as seen on TV marketing infomercial. "It really does ALL that and MORE! ORDER NOW!"

@Arkz ROFL, I snorted my coffee as I read that. So completely on point! 🤣

£830 for the pro, stand + disc drive, pretty sure if you shop around you can build a slightly better PC for around the same price? I feel if it was like £200 cheaper it wouldnt have been as bad.

@AhmadSumadi Also like the portal it will sell out and be hard to get for a while.

@Medic_alert Exactly THIS!

But when people talk about PS and choose to play on it, it was always the type of games and the fact you’re sitting on a couch in front of a tv with controller in your hands that is extremely user friendly.

I don’t want to use keyboard and mouse, sit at a table and most importantly I DONT WANT TO TOUCH WINDOWS ever again in my life. I don’t want to fiddle with graphics settings that somehow match my machines power.

I see these two worlds really divided so I really don’t get all the “you could get a better PC for this price”. I wouldn’t buy a more powerful PC even if it was half the money.

@Medic_alert Let's assume you are using your tv to make it a fair comparison. Firstly your budget needs to be £725.

The pro will have a horizontal stand included plus it can be mounted in vertical position without a stand. I don't think I could build a gaming PC to match or beat it for £700, no way i'm sure.

@Rich33 They did do a spec presentation on it. Mark Cerny hosted it.

@torquex finally, someone else making sense! Any pc costing £700 won't hold a candle to the PS5, let alone the PS5 Pro. And the best part is, a Playstation is plug and play!

@Zemo55
No, that was just a very basic 9 min top line (unless you have seen something i havent), where they gave very little actual detail.

I would have liked to see Cerny do a full presentation of the specs, a bit more in depth than the original 20 min one he did for PS5.

When it comes to games with 'pro modes', i want them to detail what is the resolution and framerates we are going from and to, and are there any other bonuses eg draw distance, and show these differences (as best you can) on screen.

This console is being targetted mainly at enthusiasts, and i am likely going to buy one, but i wish their marketing team would take a few ideas from places like DF.

@Rich33 It reminds me of DF screenshots where i am squinting to see the differences between PS5 and Xbox One - and failing. You simply cannot tell what the improvement looks like from what they showed and the quick-cut way it was done. I will probably get one, but why day one? there will be barely any games out that support that ("and many more...") is a vague promise, and besides, am i going to spend the run up to Christmas replaying a handful of games just so i can do it in 60fps fidelity mode?

@Secryt

Fidelity mode at performance framerate is their marketing line, but this is not even the story for 'launch' titles.
If you read through the PS blog some devs detail multiple modes being updated for Pro eg both Fidelity mode with extra resolution and/or raytracing but still 30fps, alongside Performance mode with extra resolution; others detail the addition of a higher framerate mode for 120hz screens.

The console is targetted towards the sort of people who, like myself, often watch DF (etc) reviews, so needs a bit more detail. I will likely get one, but i want to know what im actually getting.

@liathach
Yeah, its not the console i have a problem with (which i will likely get), its the information - the 9min Cerny reveal was no where near long enough and a waste of his time - he should have had much longer just to detail specs, let alone games. I liked his 20min ish PS5 video much better.
The info on games so far has been more or less pointless (and doesnt help sell it), and they either need to run through each game showing improvements to give us a real taste of what it can / will do (including info on fps, and resolution parameters), or ask DF to do it - im sure they would jump at the chance.
Looking at the blog i mentioned, some devs are upgrading multiple modes including 30fps modes as far as i can see, so the reality is not simply quality modes at performance mode fps.

Their marketing team seem way off here as their main target audience probably watches DF or similar videos very regularly like i do! (In fact I wont buy a game these days before a performance review unless its Sony 1st party).

Useless hardware for a lacklustre console generation

@Yousef- No you definetly have a point

@IamJT and, like Portal, the fact that it sells will piss people off and they’ll call those who bought it derogatory names lol.

@m0nkeydluffy That's exactly what I've been saying and people aren't understanding ether if they pay this for the pro that's going to be useful for 1 or 2 years ! Then when ps6 does come out sony is going to say look what they paid for the pro we can charge $800 to $900 for it! The consumer is setting their self up to pay close to a grand for a console by showing they will pay anything.

I'm pretty sure most people won't even notice the difference of Pro over boggo. Half the people I know don't even have a telly that'll show the benefits either, but this whole "may as well get a PC" thing is getting boring now. I say this as someone who'd run a pretty decent gaming rig for nearly 2 decades up until about 5 years ago, preferring the convenience of console because it's just so much less bugger-arsing about.

@Lexluther23 When you break it down I don't think the Pro is that overpriced. What irks me most is that because I'm in the UK I have to pay a premium over USD/EUR that, when compared to USD, allows for the missing disc drive.

Remasters are the norm now it seems...Sony should have just renamed the console PS5 Remastered