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@Mauzuri Same here.

Well, of course he's no stranger to the medium, he holds a world record for being the most prolific video game voice actor.

@PushButtons No, it's just there's no reasoning with some people. Now, let's stop this because quite frankly, it's boring. It was fun to begin with but only because it's the first time I've ever got into an argument on the internet.
Also, that should be "Truth always prevails" not "Truth always prevail".

@PushButtons Same to you on the last part. Let's stop this now otherwise it'll go on for far too long. Neither of us is going to change the other's mind so there's no point continuing.

@PushButtons You said "Games are developed and/or ported specifically for each category market: PC, console, handheld, mobile." I was just explaining that, that is why handheld ports are developed separately to home console ports.
Again, why does the phrase "handheld console" bother you so much? I don't think anyone ever agreed on a solid definition for the term video game console.
Sorry, just elaborating on why why I brought that point up.

@PushButtons Sorry, just going things up, you didn't say they were counted differently 'cause they were underpowered, you just said they were underpowered. That (obviously) is the reason ports to handheld consoles require more effort, (see comment 100).
Anyway, why are you so adamant that handhelds should be called "handheld gaming devices" rather than *handheld consoles"? It's just a word and one that didn't even originate from gaming, anyway. Seems like a weird thing to take offence at.
Once again, I'm sorry, for some reason, I just can't stop.

@PushButtons Man, okay, if the argument is over I'd like to point out you accidently said "The uniformed will agree with you." instead of "the uninformed will agree with you."
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and the internet often forgets that.
The reason handheld consoles count differently is 'cause as you said they're underpowered.
Sorry.

@PushButtons No, I was saying that some games originally on consoles and handhelds get ported to mobile. I'm not arguing that handhelds are home consoles but they are consoles, they are two separate divisions of the console industry but it is the truth that they are part of that industry.
And, obviously I know the last part.
I feel like this could go on for the sake of arguing but quite frankly I'm getting sick of it, neither of us can win. (Most people would probably say I was right though.)
So, yeah, let's just let this die here.

@PushButtons I know that's still a home console, it's just an interesting piece of VG history, I believe there was one that came with it though.
Honestly, though if you're just going to say mobiles should count as handhelds, by rights, isn't a console just a PC?
A video game console is a console that plays video games, whether it be a home console or a handheld console. Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Persona 4 Golden, Etrian Odyssey, these are all video games (okay, I know some games get mobile ports, but that's not relevant right now.), thus the console they are on are consoles. Mobile games are a completely different subsection of the gaming industry to handheld gaming.
Why did you come up with these unnecessary distinctions between "real" consoles and "handheld gaming devices" (as you call them) anyway? Why do a battery, a display and speakers matter so much, that anything with those is "not a console"?
The whole industry agrees that handhelds are consoles, that said there is still a distinction, all of those things you mentioned make something a handheld console, those that don't are home consoles. Furthermore, I would argue that the marketing is actually way more important than you give it credit for.
I am honestly getting sick of this argument and don't understand why you feel the need to argue a pretty much uncontested industry opinion.

@PushButtons If you don't care why are you arguing so adamantly that handhelds aren't consoles?
I think we both know that the most important thing that sets handhelds apart from phones and tablets is what they are marketed as, phones are supposed to be for communication, tablets are a more compact, less powerful computing device that can used for some gaming and handhelds are marketed for the primary purpose of playing games.
By the way, did you know that there was a PS1 that had a screen included and could be plugged into a cigarette lighter jack for playing on car journeys? What would you count that as? It has a screen but also requires a power source to be plugged into, meaning it has aspects of both handheld consoles and home consoles.

@PushButtons Also, all lists of consoles if you search them, include handheld consoles and all retailers count handhelds as consoles too. Plus, in your opinion, what's the key difference between home and handheld? Is it one has a screen and the other doesn't?
I don't know why you're getting so het up over a fact of the industry, though.

@PushButtons quotation from Wikipedia.
A video game console is an electronic device that outputs a video signal or image to display a video game that can be played with a game controller. These may be home consoles, which are generally placed in a permanent location connected to a television or other display devices and controlled with a separate game controller, or handheld consoles, which include their own display unit and controller functions built into the unit and which can be played anywhere.

@PushButtons I know this isn't going to help but I do believe you're one of the only people who don't count handheld consoles as consoles.
Go and Wikipedia Playstation Vita, Nintendo 3DS and Gameboy, and read the first paragraph of each.

@PushButtons The difference is all consoles, Switch, PS5, Xbox 360, all of them have their own interface and you need to jump through hoops to replace that, which you are strongly advised not to do. The Deck is a compact handheld PC, where you are free to swap out the interface and OS, that's the difference in my opinion at least.

@PushButtons Sorry, I had to add some things to my previous post, I was in a rush before so I just posted it without a few points I was going to make. I've added them now.

@PushButtons The difference is that one is sold primarily as a gaming device and one is not, hence why Ipads and Iphones are not handhelds, however the Switch is. It seems you will not concede but that does not change the truth of the matter.
Also, I'd say the design was an important factor as well, handheld consoles tend to have a controller layout with buttons and sticks whereas Ipads and Iphones do not as they only have a touchscreen. Even if they had the form factor, they'd still be something more akin to a Steam Deck, which is not a console but a PC. You wouldn't argue that a PC was a console, due to the fact they're also used for a multitude of other purposes, whereas a console plays games, that is its purpose.

Ah, man, some people need to learn that even if the switch is a handheld (it's a hybrid, by the way), handheld consoles are still consoles.

@PushSquare
Shouldn't that be "PSN Licence Issues Prevent PS5, PS4 Owners from Playing Their Games" rather than "PSN Licence Issues Prevent PS5, PS4 Owners from Their Playing Games"?

@Pushsquare P4G always had a way to rewatch cutscenes, this is talking about a way to redo events but picking a different dialogue option.

@nessisonett Ha, exactly how I summarised it the other day. (The masochism thing, that is.)

A measly 7/15. A shame as I did well last time.

@Orochilocka What does everyone have against people who breath through their mouth? I ask this as for some reason I've always had trouble with breathing through my nose as it always seems to be blocked. Hence I am an actual mouth breather on the internet.

@TheCollector316 It's not on the OST for Royal but it's in Royal.

@mwatcher Actually they're officially on Youtube now, at least the vocal ones, probably some others as well.

@Ralizah I'm from the UK and got it off the E-Shop for 8.99 last year.

A bad singer for a bad game, makes sense.

What is that thing people say? Something like "my body is ready", well, my body is ready... for disappointment, that is.