In Tanta We Trust is a rare example of DLC better than the main game it's based on, but that doesn't mean you need to rush out and buy a PS5 copy of Forspoken in order to play it. This optional expansion trumps the original campaign purely because it doesn't need to bother with the baggage of an open world experience: vast stretches of land and tedious side activities. This is a streamlined, tightly-packed undertaking that proves consistently enjoyable, if a little too short.
While the DLC tells you it takes place after the events of the main game, the vast majority of the story actually serves as a prequel. Protagonist Frey Holland is transported back in time to the Purge of the Rheddig, a war that ravaged Athia and sent the Tantas loopy. The twist is Frey finds herself in someone else’s body and is accompanied by Tanta Cinta, who's out to save the city by any means necessary.
It's a fairly basic premise that's given little time to set up many twists or further stakes as the expansion can be finished inside two and a half hours. There is one open area that's roughly the same size as a single region from the base game, but besides that, it's linear routes and encounters. While that's no bad thing on its own, there's hardly enough time to really ground yourself in the new location and get to know its quirks before the DLC is over. Worse still is you can't backtrack to that bigger zone — you'd need to start another playthrough if you miss anything gear or lore-wise.
This condensed structure does have its positives, though: less time spent wandering the outback and more in combat encounters. Frey very quickly unlocks a whole new set of powers to use — it's like the original game's ability tree on steroids — which work in tandem with the skills of Tanta Cinta. Once you meet her, she's by your side at all times, and your melee and ranged powers can be combined for huge damage and deadly blows.
Using basic attacks, you'll charge up a spear — this can be swapped out for other attacks — that can be thrown into enemies. You'll then be given a button prompt that activates Tanta Cinta's ability to unleash a large area of effect attack that downs most enemies in a single hit. Within a single encounter, this move can be charged up two more levels, each dealing extra damage over a wider radius. At its most powerful, you can quite literally take out more than 10 enemies in a matter of seconds. It's incredibly satisfying, turning large groups of combatants into an enticing opportunity rather than something to run away from.
None of Frey's powers from the base game carry over, so this is the combat loop you've got to work with — abilities unlocked over the course of the three chapters provide the variety you might need to keep things fresh. As a microcosm of the Forspoken combat experience, it all works really well.
And while it is comparatively small when stacked up against the main game, the single open area In Tanta We Trust offers is both visually pleasing and fun to traverse. With a huge tree at its centre, crystals shoot out from the ground while the town wraps around it in a circle. You can dash all over the place, and with a new traversal option that acts a lot like a whip, you can cross chasms and great stretches of land quickly.
There is a bit of open world busywork to tempt you off the main path (collectibles and character upgrades) but there's not enough to where you'd tire of it. Maybe add another 30 minutes onto that two-and-a-half-hour playtime if you see everything the DLC serves up.
What the expansion never gets away from, though, is this is ultimately more Forspoken. That means more banter (a new option at least lets you turn the ambient dialogue off), more disjointed graphics, and more one-note characters. You probably already know whether you jive with the humour of Frey and Cuff or not by this point.
In Tanta We Trust is a DLC better than the game it's based on, but that's more because it strips the Forspoken experience of its open world busywork than anything else. An expansion that focuses more on combat, the single open area is a condensed version of what the base title offers, turning it into a more tightly packed undertaking that gets you in amongst the action much faster. It's more Forspoken, but a better version of it.
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It's forspokenin' time!!!
Looking forward to playing this. Might be my palette cleanser between TotK and FF16.
Genuinely makes me wish Forspoken took a somewhat more linear approach to begin with instead of settling for a tired open world approach.
If they shipped a blank disc it would be better than the first game.
It was PlayStation's Redfall.
Or was Redfall Microsoft's Forespoken?!
Shame, as both games had elements that interested me when I saw the previews.
There are another enhancements in the base game: now your cat is with you, there's a couple of new potions, also the traveling is smoother as well as another couple of settings. Now, the combat it's better and an ultra hard mode. Jedi survivor now feels like a half made game...I've played the DLC and the fights are epic. I'm in my second run with a proper DualSense Edge and it's brilliant!
@SgtTruth I think Redfall is Microsoft’s Forespoken is more correct since Forespoken came out before Redfall.
So they are charging for pre access to what is generously 3 hours of above average content in a terrible game? Yeah… no thanks
@HotGoomba forspeaks all over the place
@SgtTruth I think that's really harsh on Forspoken. It's certainly not amazing, but the gameplay is good fun at times and unlike Redfall, it's not a broken mess!
How much does it cost?
@SgtTruth Forspoken is a lot better than Redfall. It was a disappointment, not an overall bad, broken game. If it wasn't hyped up as a flagship AAA release for PS then It would likely have been viewed much less negatively. I doubt the same could be said for Redfall, which is just all-round poor. And I'm saying that as the very generous and forgiving gamer that I am 😂
Better than the main game but still a 6?
Is it not enough to justify a 7 if its better?
I still want to play this game. I'm hoping this comes to PS+ Essential/Extra in the distant future.
@ShogunRok agree. Forspoken is a game that has some bad elements
Redfall is barely a game with little to no working elements. Comparisons should stop there really.
Got the deluxe version in the PSN sale that just ended. Only a few hours in but having a blast! Real "Infamous" vibe, cool spells, funny dialog (Cuff reminds me of Bagley from Watch Dogs Legion), lots to do and collect, pretty happy so far. I think the hype was too much at launch, but I do think it's worth a shot. Looking forward to how the story will continue to unfold.
I've read that as ''In Tantal we trust''. I may or may not have played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 a bit too much in these last few weeks haha.
@Jacko11 I think if it was like 30-45 minutes longer, it would have got a 7. But I feel it's just too short to go any higher.
@Mauzuri Same here.
So what you’re saying is Forspoken would have worked better as a linear game rather than as an open world game.
Makes sense considering every game studio and their mother wants to make open world games
@SgtTruth Square Enix's Red fall*
Still only about a third of the way through the base game at the moment, with lots of stuff taking its place. Will definitely go back and finish it though, and this DLC!
@ShogunRok I'd contest that. I had heaps of issues with Forspoken on my playthrough. I'd have enemies get stuck in the terrain, meaning I couldn't finish combat encounters and progress. The game crashed on my multiple times, including during the final boss. More than once the sound just dropped out completely. This was on version 1.20.
And these are just bugs; the way the games presentation outside of traversal and combat is handled is laughable. Some of the cutscenes and animation are so bad. The fact they couldn't even bother to animate you petting a sheep and had to fade to black for five seconds and say "You pet the sheep" had me rolling.
Redfall is a dumpster fire of a game, so in no way am I suggesting otherwise. But Forspoken is also an ugly, broken mess.
That said, I did enjoy it enough to finish it.
what was the asking price for this dlc?
@Snake_V5 @KundaliniRising333 We'll find out tomorrow with the full launch. The PS Store doesn't list a price yet because only Digital Deluxe owners can redeem it right now as a free download.
@LiamCroft thats fair.
@LiamCroft gotcha thanks. Will be interesting to see what they price this at for sure.
@Mauzuri I fell into the same trap
Ok that is Freys mum in this expansion, I'm assuming that other woman is the 1st boss you encounter in early chapters? I don't want to spoil and read the review as I'm still playing the main game so far
@frankmcma yeah the muscle memory was lost for a bit when getting into it after a while but I'm back on track on gonna push on so I can play the dlc after
@Snake_V5 it's included free with the deluxe edition which was a nice surprise, I brought forspoken in the recent sale, it was good timing imo
Cool. I got Forspoken free with my new PS5 last week.
Damn the dlc is better than the main game that's nutz
Not surprised at all lol. I'll be waiting for a dirt cheap sale on the DLC.
Despite not owning the game, I'm glad Square has seemingly not given up on this IP. After initial shaky impressions, the more I see of this, the better it looks. Gameplay looks solid, even if the premise seems cringey.
Unfortunately, there will always be people who dislike it purely for other reasons...
I enjoyed the base game although took 15 hours for it to start and another 10 before it was done.
Pacing was dreadful but it was just bearable considering . But £10 for short dlc... I'll wait until its £5
@LiamCroft interesting, its $12.49 usd here. Weird choice
for 2 hrs i dunno about that.
I'm looking forward to jumping into this right after the main game. Just finished off the second Tanta and received the blue magic. I am going to try to complete the game this holiday weekend!
I’m surprised anyone played this game. Looks awful.
“Protagonist Frey Holland is transported back in time to the Purge of the Rheddig, a war that ravaged Athia and sent the Tantas loopy. The twist is Frey finds herself in someone else’s body […]”
I see what you did there…
Will definitely check it out as I am having a blast with Forspoken atm. I don't get where all the hate comes from as I think it is an excellent game.
Each to their own I suppose but it's a shame we won't see a sequel now or Frey again.
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