Yes, it is a streaming device. If I cannot have physical games why would I spend the time to download and install the game if I can just stream it? As soon as Sony opens up the options so you can stream all games in your library this thing will be all I need. We do it all day with our movies, TV and music why not with our games?
exactly!! You want to play your PS games on a handheld. Not a portable PC to play PC games on. Just like people want to play the PS games in the best way that they can on the right TV with the Pro. Neither of these ways are better than the other. (or a scam). If Sony took the idea of a portable Playstation and made it so it could dock and have the same specs as the PS5 Pro AND have an option for physical media, I too would pay your 600 GBP for that bit of kit.
Not upset you called it a scam just confused as to why you would pay the equivalent of a pro to have an even lesser gaming experience. I get it would be portable and that is always an attractive option but as people say about getting a PC instead of a pro, why not just get a Steam Deck?
@KaiBrunnenG
You would pay 600 GBP for a handheld PlayStation without a disc drive, but 700 GBP for a dedicated console without a disc drive is a "scam". I get that a handheld is more valuable to YOU but a handheld seems to be of less overall value in general. Especially if I cannot buy an add-on to access my physical collection or dock it to play on my TV. I would pay as much as a Switch OLED. What is that now, 299 GBP? Ya I would pay that much, or just use my Portal to stream my games (when Sony inevitably expands this feature).
Isn't it the VAT that makes everything look more expensive than it is? My conversion is 840 bucks plus I need to pay 12% sales tax on top of that price. Who can afford this hobby anymore...lol...
There are probably tariffs and import fees for the UK as well.
Oh, Ubisoft. Five years ago we would have all been thrilled to see you try to make this game. Today, not so much. How about you try not to implode for now and deliver an AC game in February that won't cause a meltdown on the internet?
Ok, I know everyone in the chat loves to jump on a dorky idea and this is a dorky idea. However, if you are watching the awards anyway and want something more entertaining to do while they are plodding along, this idea may be a bit of fun.
No matter how Sony decides to do this, streaming or downloading the game and playing it natively, it will surely be the death knell of physical media. To paraphrase the beleaguered Ubisoft, Get ready not own your games.
"Sony's secret plan is to have it be able to stream games directly from PSN. If it can stream from a Playstation (essentially a server when coupled with the Portal) it can stream from the PSN servers. Am I wrong? Is there a reason this can never happen? If they can/do they will sell substantially more Potals and increase subs to PS+ Premium. It may even convince me to go digital and stream my new games over portal"
I am not really an apologist, but I am more of a devil's advocate when it comes to some controversies within the gaming sphere, but I cannot abide by this decision. It's stupid and an obvious bribe to have Miyazaki show up for the awards this year. Guaranteed Turd Tree will now win, no point watching.
Correct me if I am wrong but Ishin has way too many character references, even though they are not "playing" the "yakuza" character they are still "playing" the general archetype similar to the "yakuza" one. Like a play where all the actors just act like themselves but as different people. Not being familiar with who these characters are in the older games will ensure that half the fun of this game is lost on a newcomer.
I too am disappointed we are not getting another 18+ Icons/Ideas set here. The Tallneck is a fantastic model and I would love a fully modelled Clawstrider or Stalker on the shelf next to it. However, I will still buy this set for Varl and the little canisters of mats that come with it. lol...
Edit* not to worried about scale within the sets though. Also, I don't want to pay 600 bucks for some super crazy 5000 piece set either.
Don't sleep on this game, especially if you have been enjoying Metaphor: Refantazio. I have not finished yet but I am about 60 (ish) hours in and it's a lot of crazy fun.
It's funny how everyone hates online multiplayer games but would eat a trail or dog crap to get a Last of Us multiplayer game that we don't even know if it will be as good as Factions. I guarantee that if the new game is not a copy and paste of Factions the entire community will have a temper tantrum.
I think there would not have been any controversy if the Gooners in their basements just shut up about the character design. Then Stellar Blade could have passed under the radar like all eastern games with Waifus and Anime Tiddies.
BloodRayne, Bayonetta, and NieR: Automata would beg to differ on how to become a classic. If Stellar Blade is still worth discussing as time marches, it will be considered a classic. If it gets a sequel, that surpasses what made this game special to its fans, that would also elevate its "classic" status. Stellar Blade will become what it will become.
They did learn...they learned that player pushback is something that they are willing to absorb into their cost/profit structure.
I learned today that McDonalds is not very healthy, so I had to make a decision of risk vs reward and I had a Big Mac anyway.
Its the same thing with Sony. They learned that a portion of the PC community overreacted to a small change in the terms of service and decided that they were willing to put up with it.
The Borderlands movie was the only movie I saw in theatres this summer and it was fun for what it was. At least it got people talking about the franchise again.
I have a feeling it would be because if they did spell it out as a new and improved feature fans would get mad if the upscaling didn't work on every game in the PS4 catalogue. So to avoid the same fallout as the 8K or 120FPS claims on the launch edition box they just quietly rolled it out
Thats what I was talking about in another post. If we want a real comparison for Physical VS Digital show me how many digital copies spider man 2 sold vs physical. Not how much money was made on the PS store vs retail
Push Square is a Playstation fan site...they talk about, guess what, Playstation News. But I have never seen them tell me to go out and buy a PS5 Pro. I also feel they have been appropriately critical of the price and the exclusion of the disc drive. This weird narrative that somehow Push Square is a shill for Sony is quite amusing to me.
When Playstation calculate the numbers what is the formula? Is it Physical vs digital copies sold or do they compare the 2 revenue streams? I am only wondering because those would be vastly different comparisons.
I agree with some people that the gameplay in Ghostwire is lacking, but the atmosphere is fantastic. It's like virtual tourism but with Yokai and evil spirits. Also, it has a fairly easy Platinum
What are you disagreeing with there? I love me some higher frame rates as much as the next person but graphic fidelity can also be very important to immersion and overall enjoyment as well.
For the same reason Bloodborne fanatics have been port begging for that particular game. Whats the point if its just the same game with prettier graphics but no new content?
Doing a quick Google search Sony Corp made 87 billion US last year. 200 million of that is nothing. Think of it this way, you have 87 bucks worth of quarters in your pocket and use 1 quarter to buy a gumball from the gumball machine and it comes out a color you don't like so you throw it away. That's what spending 200 Million is like for these companies.
Even if it was 400 million that would be 2 gumballs thrown in the trash.
No, he means hateful. Criticism is one thing and as we all have an opinion (for better or worse) it should be expressed. What this guy is talking about is threatening messages and hate speech directed at the development team.
Not sure what this one person on X was talking about but I cannot find much "controversy" about the characters on the internet. If anything, they may be upset that Max's girlfriend Chloe did not make it into this game. Anti-Wokers don't care about this game even as much as usual and Pro-Wokers are not even arguing with anyone that is remotely anti-woke so this cannot be the issue. One reviewer said that Max is a snoopy little b**ch and has no respect for anyone's privacy to which a commenter said that is exactly how she was in the first game.
Not sure what we are arguing about here in this comment section but I don't think, the dialogue around this game, is a so-called "culture war" thing.
Give me a unique one-time use code on physical purchases so everyone can collect points. It's unfair that collectors of physical games have been left out of this.
Holy Mackeral you are so bang on with this. Opening the full map every time just to see where I needed to drive my speeder on Akiva was by far the worst part of the whole experience with this game.
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Re: PS5 Fans Willing to Pay a Pretty Penny for a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation
@KaiBrunnenG
Yes, it is a streaming device. If I cannot have physical games why would I spend the time to download and install the game if I can just stream it? As soon as Sony opens up the options so you can stream all games in your library this thing will be all I need. We do it all day with our movies, TV and music why not with our games?
Re: PS5 Fans Willing to Pay a Pretty Penny for a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation
@charbtronic
You mean like a PS Portal...lol...
Re: PS5 Fans Willing to Pay a Pretty Penny for a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation
@KaiBrunnenG
exactly!! You want to play your PS games on a handheld. Not a portable PC to play PC games on. Just like people want to play the PS games in the best way that they can on the right TV with the Pro. Neither of these ways are better than the other. (or a scam). If Sony took the idea of a portable Playstation and made it so it could dock and have the same specs as the PS5 Pro AND have an option for physical media, I too would pay your 600 GBP for that bit of kit.
Re: PS5 Fans Willing to Pay a Pretty Penny for a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation
@KaiBrunnenG
Not upset you called it a scam just confused as to why you would pay the equivalent of a pro to have an even lesser gaming experience. I get it would be portable and that is always an attractive option but as people say about getting a PC instead of a pro, why not just get a Steam Deck?
Re: PS5 Fans Willing to Pay a Pretty Penny for a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation
@Member_the_game
And it looks like British money with the monarch still all over it...lol...
Re: PS5 Fans Willing to Pay a Pretty Penny for a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation
@KaiBrunnenG
You would pay 600 GBP for a handheld PlayStation without a disc drive, but 700 GBP for a dedicated console without a disc drive is a "scam". I get that a handheld is more valuable to YOU but a handheld seems to be of less overall value in general. Especially if I cannot buy an add-on to access my physical collection or dock it to play on my TV. I would pay as much as a Switch OLED. What is that now, 299 GBP? Ya I would pay that much, or just use my Portal to stream my games (when Sony inevitably expands this feature).
Re: PS5 Fans Willing to Pay a Pretty Penny for a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation
@UltimateOtaku91
Isn't it the VAT that makes everything look more expensive than it is? My conversion is 840 bucks plus I need to pay 12% sales tax on top of that price. Who can afford this hobby anymore...lol...
There are probably tariffs and import fees for the UK as well.
Re: PS5 Fans Willing to Pay a Pretty Penny for a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation
@Jrs1 @Member_the_game @UltimateOtaku91
I am from Canada so NOTHING makes sense. So this is what I do. https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/
Re: Ubisoft Reportedly Making a Minecraft Meets Animal Crossing Social Sim
Oh, Ubisoft. Five years ago we would have all been thrilled to see you try to make this game. Today, not so much. How about you try not to implode for now and deliver an AC game in February that won't cause a meltdown on the internet?
Re: Hang Out with Geoff Keighley in Fortnite's Island for The Game Awards
Ok, I know everyone in the chat loves to jump on a dorky idea and this is a dorky idea. However, if you are watching the awards anyway and want something more entertaining to do while they are plodding along, this idea may be a bit of fun.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want a Steam Deck-Like Portable PlayStation?
No matter how Sony decides to do this, streaming or downloading the game and playing it natively, it will surely be the death knell of physical media. To paraphrase the beleaguered Ubisoft, Get ready not own your games.
Re: Opinion: The Game Awards' Persona 3 Reload Disrespect Is Crazy
@Savage_Joe
Thats a stretch...
Re: Hands On: PS Plus Cloud Streaming Is a Game Changer for PS Portal
Quote from me in May
"Sony's secret plan is to have it be able to stream games directly from PSN. If it can stream from a Playstation (essentially a server when coupled with the Portal) it can stream from the PSN servers. Am I wrong? Is there a reason this can never happen? If they can/do they will sell substantially more Potals and increase subs to PS+ Premium. It may even convince me to go digital and stream my new games over portal"
Can't belive I was right about this....lol...
Re: Assassin's Creed Syndicate 60fps Patch Out Now on PS5, PS5 Pro
@Uromastryx
Every Assassin's Creed game is the worst Assassin's Creed game until the next one comes out.
Re: Assassin's Creed Syndicate 60fps Patch Out Now on PS5, PS5 Pro
If a remake of any game is needed it is of the First Assassin's Creed game. This game is stuck in the 7th gen and needs to be brought to the present
Re: Vast Majority of Gamers Say Elden Ring DLC Should Never Have Been Nominated for Game of the Year
I am not really an apologist, but I am more of a devil's advocate when it comes to some controversies within the gaming sphere, but I cannot abide by this decision. It's stupid and an obvious bribe to have Miyazaki show up for the awards this year. Guaranteed Turd Tree will now win, no point watching.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for November 2024?
@Dom_31 @JalapenoSpiceLife
Correct me if I am wrong but Ishin has way too many character references, even though they are not "playing" the "yakuza" character they are still "playing" the general archetype similar to the "yakuza" one. Like a play where all the actors just act like themselves but as different people. Not being familiar with who these characters are in the older games will ensure that half the fun of this game is lost on a newcomer.
Re: New LEGO Horizon Set Now Official, Includes, Aloy, Varl, and Machines
@MFTWrecks @LowDefAl
I too am disappointed we are not getting another 18+ Icons/Ideas set here. The Tallneck is a fantastic model and I would love a fully modelled Clawstrider or Stalker on the shelf next to it. However, I will still buy this set for Varl and the little canisters of mats that come with it. lol...
Edit* not to worried about scale within the sets though. Also, I don't want to pay 600 bucks for some super crazy 5000 piece set either.
Re: Disgruntled PS5 Pro Owners Campaign to Disable Support After Slew of Shoddy Patches
My favourite part of gaming is knowing I am the only one who is right and everyone else is too blind to see the truth!
Re: The Game Awards Confirms DLC, Remasters Can Win Game of the Year Days Prior to Nominations Reveal
Why not create a "Best DLC" or "Best Remake" category?
You can see where this idea is going from a mile away and a month ahead.
Re: SMT 5: Vengeance PS5 Demo Up Now on PS Store
Don't sleep on this game, especially if you have been enjoying Metaphor: Refantazio. I have not finished yet but I am about 60 (ish) hours in and it's a lot of crazy fun.
Re: Hot on the Heels of LEGO Horizon Adventures PS5, Official LEGO Horizon Set Leaks
Everybody in here polarizing over a Lego game is absolutely hilarious.
Re: Guerrilla's Next Horizon Game May Launch Sometime in 2025 on PS5
@Frmknst
It's funny how everyone hates online multiplayer games but would eat a trail or dog crap to get a Last of Us multiplayer game that we don't even know if it will be as good as Factions. I guarantee that if the new game is not a copy and paste of Factions the entire community will have a temper tantrum.
Re: Infinity Nikki and Jessie J Confirm PS5 Release Date in Joyous Musical Trailer
@symmetrian
Sorry, it was a, run-on sentence, but I, didn't want to, split it up.
i guess its wasn't really a run on but it looked long and my Grammarly was underlining everything...lol...
Re: Infinity Nikki and Jessie J Confirm PS5 Release Date in Joyous Musical Trailer
I played the PS5 demo. This is where I, get to find out, how much work a development team, can get done in three weeks.
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@somnambulance
I think there would not have been any controversy if the Gooners in their basements just shut up about the character design. Then Stellar Blade could have passed under the radar like all eastern games with Waifus and Anime Tiddies.
Re: Astro Bot Sells 1.5 Million PS5 Copies Inside Nine Weeks
@REALAIS
BloodRayne, Bayonetta, and NieR: Automata would beg to differ on how to become a classic. If Stellar Blade is still worth discussing as time marches, it will be considered a classic. If it gets a sequel, that surpasses what made this game special to its fans, that would also elevate its "classic" status. Stellar Blade will become what it will become.
Re: Sony Boss Says It's 'Learned a Lot' from PC Player Pushback
@x3King84
They did learn...they learned that player pushback is something that they are willing to absorb into their cost/profit structure.
I learned today that McDonalds is not very healthy, so I had to make a decision of risk vs reward and I had a Big Mac anyway.
Its the same thing with Sony. They learned that a portion of the PC community overreacted to a small change in the terms of service and decided that they were willing to put up with it.
Whats the problem?
Re: Take-Two CEO Says Borderlands Movie Bombing 'Didn't Hurt at All'
The Borderlands movie was the only movie I saw in theatres this summer and it was fun for what it was. At least it got people talking about the franchise again.
Re: Metacritic Responds to Ongoing Dragon Age: The Veilguard Review Bombing Campaign
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Re: Early Tests Reveal How PS5 Pro Improves Your Old PS4 Games
@Playstationdemodisc
That's what your dad said! lol..
Re: Early Tests Reveal How PS5 Pro Improves Your Old PS4 Games
@MaelysLeFleau
I have a feeling it would be because if they did spell it out as a new and improved feature fans would get mad if the upscaling didn't work on every game in the PS4 catalogue. So to avoid the same fallout as the 8K or 120FPS claims on the launch edition box they just quietly rolled it out
Re: Early Tests Reveal How PS5 Pro Improves Your Old PS4 Games
@wildcat_kickz
Right!??! If they don't want to read the article don't click on it. It's not like anyone is forcing anyone to read what they don't want to read.
Push Square is a PlayStation news site. It would be weird if they DIDN'T report every little detail of a new system.
Re: PS5 Pro Packaging Flaunts Its Disc-Free Nature
@Old-Red
Thats what I was talking about in another post. If we want a real comparison for Physical VS Digital show me how many digital copies spider man 2 sold vs physical. Not how much money was made on the PS store vs retail
Re: PS5 Pro Packaging Flaunts Its Disc-Free Nature
@gollumb82
Push Square is a Playstation fan site...they talk about, guess what, Playstation News. But I have never seen them tell me to go out and buy a PS5 Pro. I also feel they have been appropriately critical of the price and the exclusion of the disc drive. This weird narrative that somehow Push Square is a shill for Sony is quite amusing to me.
Re: PS5 Pro Packaging Flaunts Its Disc-Free Nature
@carlos82
When Playstation calculate the numbers what is the formula? Is it Physical vs digital copies sold or do they compare the 2 revenue streams? I am only wondering because those would be vastly different comparisons.
Re: Sony Says the Best Time to Get a PS5 Is Now
Wow! Now that is a surprising result based strictly on the usual negativity on this website.
72% of people agree or slightly agree that now is the best time. Wow!
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for November 2024 Announced
@AndyKazama
Oh ya, that's right too. I was hoping for an anime adaption, that would be so fun!
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for November 2024 Announced
@devildragon2k23
It was a PS5 console exclusive because of a pre-Bethesda/Zennimax acquisition agreement with Tango Gameworks.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for November 2024 Announced
@AndyKazama
I agree with some people that the gameplay in Ghostwire is lacking, but the atmosphere is fantastic. It's like virtual tourism but with Yokai and evil spirits. Also, it has a fairly easy Platinum
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (PS5) - A Sublime Remaster of a Modern PlayStation Classic
@naruball
What are you disagreeing with there? I love me some higher frame rates as much as the next person but graphic fidelity can also be very important to immersion and overall enjoyment as well.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (PS5) - A Sublime Remaster of a Modern PlayStation Classic
@naruball
Tomato/Tomato. For some graphic fidelity drastically changes the way a game plays and feels.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered (PS5) - A Sublime Remaster of a Modern PlayStation Classic
@Mattock1987
For the same reason Bloodborne fanatics have been port begging for that particular game. Whats the point if its just the same game with prettier graphics but no new content?
Re: Concord Cost Sony Over $200 Million, And Didn't Make a Single Cent
Doing a quick Google search Sony Corp made 87 billion US last year. 200 million of that is nothing. Think of it this way, you have 87 bucks worth of quarters in your pocket and use 1 quarter to buy a gumball from the gumball machine and it comes out a color you don't like so you throw it away. That's what spending 200 Million is like for these companies.
Even if it was 400 million that would be 2 gumballs thrown in the trash.
Re: Don't Nod Dev Pushes Back on 'Hateful' Life Is Strange: Double Exposure Comments
@Thumper
No, he means hateful. Criticism is one thing and as we all have an opinion (for better or worse) it should be expressed. What this guy is talking about is threatening messages and hate speech directed at the development team.
Re: Next Mass Effect to Retain 'Mature Tone' and 'Photorealistic' Graphics
@LifeGirl
The "Ignore" button is still there. Its effectively a block button.
Re: Don't Nod Dev Pushes Back on 'Hateful' Life Is Strange: Double Exposure Comments
Not sure what this one person on X was talking about but I cannot find much "controversy" about the characters on the internet. If anything, they may be upset that Max's girlfriend Chloe did not make it into this game. Anti-Wokers don't care about this game even as much as usual and Pro-Wokers are not even arguing with anyone that is remotely anti-woke so this cannot be the issue. One reviewer said that Max is a snoopy little b**ch and has no respect for anyone's privacy to which a commenter said that is exactly how she was in the first game.
Not sure what we are arguing about here in this comment section but I don't think, the dialogue around this game, is a so-called "culture war" thing.
Re: Reminder: You Must Accept PS Stars Terms of Service to Keep Earning Points
Give me a unique one-time use code on physical purchases so everyone can collect points. It's unfair that collectors of physical games have been left out of this.
Re: Stealth Issues Still the Focus of Star Wars Outlaws PS5 Patches
@Mostik
Holy Mackeral you are so bang on with this. Opening the full map every time just to see where I needed to drive my speeder on Akiva was by far the worst part of the whole experience with this game.